Superman Vs Silver Surfer Vs Thor

Rage.Of.Olympus

Originally posted by h1a8
The OP said on a scale of 100.
My scale is using percentages with the highest of the three starting at 100.
So if Superman has X amount of resistance againt piercing then Thor has 35% less resistance than Superman.

The actual percentages where made up by opinion since it's impossible to assign exact real values to comparative durability. But again, I was going by the OP. The purpose of the OP is to see the opinions of others.

What are you taking into account with your numbers?

An energy blast from some random villain blasts the contestants at 40 percent power. Superman/Surfer are unhurt while Thor has damage. He ramps it up continuosly and while Thor may be easier to hurt, he ultimately falls last to the assault.

There's a difference between how easy a being is to hurt, and how hard they are to put down. Which is why I'm asking you if your numbers are based on the ability to withstand superficial damage or being taken out.

abhilegend

Maybe an example for thor's damage soak would be suffice. I don't think he's equal to superman in how much damage he can take before falling.

carver9

This can go either way. Looking at fts from all, they have fallen/been hurt by things that shouldn't be able to hurt them and they have withstood high end attacks. This thread is pointless. Without looking at low end fts, all of them are equal. I would love for someone to show me Surfer being koed or cut since his rebirth...especially by blunt force. The only time I can think of him being damaged is during his run against the annihilators when he was sliced by something that was ripping through time and the time Thor head butted him. Surfer after his rebirth gets the edge significantly imo but again, an argument can be made for all.

Dampyre

Originally posted by carver9
This can go either way. Looking at fts from all, they have fallen/been hurt by things that shouldn't be able to hurt them and they have withstood high end attacks. This thread is pointless. Without looking at low end fts, all of them are equal. I would love for someone to show me Surfer being koed or cut since his rebirth...especially by blunt force. The only time I can think of him being damaged is during his run against the annihilators when he was sliced by something that was ripping through time and the time Thor head butted him. Surfer after his rebirth gets the edge significantly imo but again, an argument can be made for all.

That headbutt from Thor briefly denting the Surfer's head is pretty ridiculous. A headbutt? Really?

carver9

Originally posted by Dampyre
That headbutt from Thor briefly denting the Surfer's head is pretty ridiculous. A headbutt? Really?

I honestly don't think its that bad...it was a headbutt from Thor...Surfers peer. Also, Thor was damaged as well. The good showing about that fight is Surfer withstanding a hammer shot without damage. His blunt force is insane.

Damborgson

I think he meant that Thor headbutt him at all was just retarded.

carver9

Originally posted by Damborgson
I think he meant that Thor headbutt him at all was just retarded.

Don't understand why though.

JakeTheBank

Fraction Thor is beyond reproach.

abhilegend

So, nobody is giving examples. I'd be the first to go then.

Superman survives the collision of two planets

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_deathofthenewgods080260co1.jpg

Superman shrugs off the persuader's axe.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_as602p06.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_as602p07.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_as602p08.jpg

Superman survives a sun-eater collapsing on himself

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_adventuresofsuperman477fe6.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_adventuresofsuperman477mg7.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_actioncomics664p01as4.jpg

carver9

Surfer wins.

abhilegend

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer wins.
Give examples then.

carver9

Originally posted by abhilegend
Give examples then.

Him withstanding a beating from Tenebrous and his partner (both are equal to Galactus) long enough for him to defeat both is proof enough. Nothing you've shown or could show will top that. Sorry bro.

abhilegend

Originally posted by carver9
Him withstanding a beating from Tenebrous and his partner (both are equal to Galactus) long enough for him to defeat both is proof enough. Nothing you've shown or could show will top that. Sorry bro.
Lulz. Surfer nearly being killed by a lesser than moon destroying attacks are proof enough? Superman hasn't even blinked by a moon destroying in his face.

carver9

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz. Surfer nearly being killed by a lesser than moon destroying attacks are proof enough? Superman hasn't even blinked by a moon destroying in his face.

Lol...are you really looking at collateral damage? You will not win this looking at that bro. Lol. They dropped Galactus and the planet they was fighting on was still intact.

Branlor Swift

Near Galactus equals operate on a moon level basis.

Also, Shadow Moon.

abhilegend

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...are you really looking at collateral damage? You will not win this looking at that bro. Lol. They dropped Galactus and the planet they was fighting on was still intact.
Of course I'm talking about collateral damage here. They dropped a hungry galactus by taking him by surprise and in the same fight Aegis oneshotted surfer.Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Near Galactus equals operate on a moon level basis.

Also, Shadow Moon.
A peer of hungry galactus maybe. stick out tongue

Infinity Crusade.

Branlor Swift

Originally posted by abhilegend
A peer of hungry galactus maybe. stick out tongue

Infinity Crusade. Still above Skyfather

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman hasn't even blinked by a moon destroying in his face.

carver9

Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course I'm talking about collateral damage here. They dropped a hungry galactus by taking him by surprise and in the same fight Aegis oneshotted surfer.
A peer of hungry galactus maybe. stick out tongue

Infinity Crusade.

I guess you forgot the scene when Superman was stopping the ship Doomsday slayer was guiding. Wasn't it stated on panel that a continent buster would have killed Superman?

abhilegend

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Still above Skyfather
In that same instance Aegis oneshotted Surfer.

Superman has walked through an Elder God's all out attacks and not get killed. He has done that.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15720839_AdventuresOfSuperman478p20_zpsbd6e5296.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15720840_AdventuresOfSuperman478p21_zpsc9881f34.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15720841_AdventuresOfSuperman478p22_zps8191c7e2.jpg

Branlor Swift

Originally posted by carver9
I guess you forgot the scene when Superman was stopping the ship Doomsday slayer was guiding. Wasn't it stated on panel that a continent buster would have killed Superman? Snap.

That Elder God was a pussy. And Aegis didn't one shot Surfer in the second fight, which Carver was using masterfully (I might add) to nail home his point into your anus.

Also, it looks like Superman wasn't even there when the moon kablew up.

abhilegend

Originally posted by carver9
I guess you forgot the scene when Superman was stopping the ship Doomsday slayer was guiding. Wasn't it stated on panel that a continent buster would have killed Superman?
Statement are just that................a statement. Superman tanked that shit despite whatever Steel said. Surfer was nearly killed by just deflecting a random space-ship though.

abhilegend

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Snap.

That Elder God was a pussy. And Aegis didn't one shot Surfer in the second fight, which Carver was using masterfully (I might add) to nail home his point into your anus.

Also, it looks like Superman wasn't even there when the moon kablew up.
Lawl.

The peer of galactus oneshotted surfer.

How did he knew that the moon was blown up though?

Horrificus

Originally posted by Dampyre
That headbutt from Thor briefly denting the Surfer's head is pretty ridiculous. A headbutt? Really? Surfer is a sissy. big grin

abhilegend

Originally posted by Horrificus
Surfer is a sissy. big grin

That he is.

Horrificus

It is also worth noting that, out of the 3 of them, only Thor likes to get drunk from time to time.

Can we all agree that Thor can drink more than the others?

Branlor Swift

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lawl.

The peer of galactus oneshotted surfer.

How did he knew that the moon was blown up though? Probably from the countdown reaching zero

vince_slice

Originally posted by abhilegend
Statement are just that................a statement. Superman tanked that shit despite whatever Steel said. Surfer was nearly killed by just deflecting a random space-ship though.
He was briefly knocked out, and got back up perfectly fine with no injuries a few panels later. He wasn't anywhere near being killed.

carver9

Originally posted by abhilegend
Statement are just that................a statement. Superman tanked that shit despite whatever Steel said. Surfer was nearly killed by just deflecting a random space-ship though.

Superman didn't disagree. Also, by the time the ship hit earth, it was nearly halted since the Doomsday slayer slowed it down along with Superman pushing against it.

abhilegend

Originally posted by vince_slice
He was briefly knocked out, and got back up perfectly fine with no injuries a few panels later. He wasn't anywhere near being killed.
Not that fast bro. Surfer was convinced that he would get killed and Alicia was afraid he was killed. Artists don't show wounds on surfer's skin often. Heck he was not even scratched when Thanos nearly killed him.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-31.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-32.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-33.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-34.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-36.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-37.jpg

vince_slice

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not that fast bro. Surfer was convinced that he would get killed and Alicia was afraid he was killed. Artists don't show wounds on surfer's skin often. Heck he was not even scratched when Thanos nearly killed him.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-31.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-32.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-33.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-34.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-36.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-37.jpg

You forgot to show the last panel. The panel where Surfer gets back up and is perfectly fine, with no injuries.

http://i33.tinypic.com/htecsn.jpg

Does that look like he's dying?

abhilegend

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Probably from the countdown reaching zero
He watched everyone getting killed as evidenced in the last scan.Originally posted by carver9
Superman didn't disagree. Also, by the time the ship hit earth, it was nearly halted since the Doomsday slayer slowed it down along with Superman pushing against it.
He didn't disagree because he trusts steel. Your memory is wrong as usual. Steel made his assumption after the ship was slowed down by doomslayer.

abhilegend

Originally posted by vince_slice
You forgot to show the last panel. The panel where Surfer gets back up and is perfectly fine, with no injuries.

http://i33.tinypic.com/htecsn.jpg

Does that look like he's dying?
That happened here too. Does that mean he wasn't nearly killed?

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_25_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_26_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_27_Image_0001.jpg

You have to read the words. Surfer and Alicia were both certain he was nearly killed. He recovered fast, that's all.

Rao Kal El

Superman survives and explosion that destroys and breaches the source wall with out being protected (like Metron or Scott)

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/SOURCE%20WALL%20DESTRUCTION/th_DOTNG7SURVIVESTHESOURCEWALLDESTRUCTION.jpg http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/SOURCE%20WALL%20DESTRUCTION/th_DOTNG7SURVIVESTHESOURCEWALLDESTRUCTION2.jpg

Just in case if there was any doubt, Superman survives a second breach unconcious (with out bracing himself).

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/SOURCE%20WALL%20DESTRUCTION/th_DOTNG7p23_zps0cd836f3.jpg

and then some distortion effect

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/INSANE%20FEATS/SOURCE%20WALL%20DESTRUCTION/th_DOTNG7p24_zps9c04db23.jpg

Only that, not a big deal

Also pre dos superman had to tank the moon explosion in order to be displaced on time, since the explosion took place in the future and supeman gets sent back to the present he survived the explosion.

This is an old old feat for him.

vince_slice

Originally posted by abhilegend
That happened here too. Does that mean he wasn't nearly killed?

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_25_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_26_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_CosmicPowersUnlimited01-SilverSurfer_Page_27_Image_0001.jpg

You have to read the words. Surfer and Alicia were both certain he was nearly killed. He recovered fast, that's all.

In the Thanos scene, we know for certain Surfer was almost dead, because it was stated on panel for us that Thanos preserved only a small flicker of his life force in him.

In the space ship scene, we have no clue how close or far from death Surfer was. All we know is that he was briefly knocked out, and recovered extremely fast, and with no injuries. The fact that he recovered so fast, and seemed back to normal afterwards, likely means he was far from death.

psycho gundam

Originally posted by abhilegend
That he is. pretty much your objective to prove here..again

abhilegend

Originally posted by vince_slice
In the Thanos scene, we know for certain Surfer was almost dead, because it was stated on panel for us that Thanos preserved only a small flicker of his life force in him.

In the space ship scene, we have no clue how close or far from death Surfer was. All we know is that he was briefly knocked out, and recovered extremely fast, and with no injuries. The fact that he recovered so fast, and seemed back to normal afterwards, likely means he was far from death.
So, he was so extremely recovered that Alicia thought he died? That's a bit of a stretch.Originally posted by psycho gundam
pretty much your objective to prove here..again
Shut up.

uhuh

vince_slice

Originally posted by abhilegend
So, he was so extremely recovered that Alicia thought he died? That's a bit of a stretch.

uhuh

Alicia was wrong. Dead wrong. Get it? Alicia is Surfer's lover. Of course she'd be overly worried about his safety.

Surfer deflected the comet, and Alicia asked "at what cost?"

And Surfer wakes up and replies "no cost", and proceeds to get up to inspect the robot as if nothing happened. He recovered near instantly, and didn't show signs injuries. The type you'd expect from being close to death.

Alicia's statements are just that....statements. And to quote you directly:
Originally posted by abhilegend
Statement are just that................a statement.

Isn't that right abhi?

abhilegend

Originally posted by vince_slice
Alicia was wrong. Dead wrong. Get it? Alicia is Surfer's lover. Of course she'd be overly worried about his safety.

Surfer deflected the comet, and Alicia asked "at what cost?"

And Surfer wakes up and replies "no cost", and proceeds to get up to inspect the robot as if nothing happened. He recovered near instantly, and didn't show signs injuries. The type you'd expect from being close to death.

Alicia's statements are just that....statements. And to quote you directly:

Isn't that right abhi?
So Alicia and surfer are both wrong. Got it. As for your quoteing me, in my case the statements weren't backed up by the actual happening in the comic. In your case, it was. Whatever, agree to disagree. Its still a shit showing for surfer.

vince_slice

abhilegend

Originally posted by vince_slice
All I'm saying is that you're wrong. Agree to agree then.
Whatever. You are wrong though.

huhu

Nibedicus

Originally posted by abhilegend
So Alicia and surfer are both wrong. Got it. As for your quoteing me, in my case the statements weren't backed up by the actual happening in the comic. In your case, it was. Whatever, agree to disagree. Its still a shit showing for surfer.

How was this "backed up by the actual happening in the comic, tho? If anything, I'd say this would be more of them worrying and not knowing what exactly would happen. At the end, Surfer's statement of "no cost" corrected their previous assumptions.

Also, how is this a shit showing? That thing would have destroyed the entire northeast coast. He got up and doesn't look like he took much damage at all.

If that's a shit showing for Surfer, I'd hate to see a high showing...

abhilegend

Originally posted by Nibedicus
How was this "backed up by the actual happening in the comic, tho? If anything, I'd say this would be more of them worrying and not knowing what exactly would happen. At the end, Surfer's statement of "no cost" corrected their previous assumptions.

Also, how is this a shit showing? That thing would have destroyed the entire northeast coast. He got up and doesn't look like he took much damage at all.

If that's a shit showing for Surfer, I'd hate to see a high showing...
Surfer and Alicia both thought he was going to die and he looked like that too. He recovered fast and that's it.

Surfer didn't took the blast of the ship, he just deflected it using his knowledge of trajectories. He was still KTFO with just deflecting a space-ship that shook the bedrock of manhattan island. Its a shit showing for a low herald nvm someone like surfer.

abhilegend

Also nobody repping Thor?

vince_slice

How about no-selling a cosmic bolt from Korvac that had the power to destroy a planet.

http://i38.tinypic.com/2n8q9s5.jpg

Or being turned into his own magnetized planet core, and withstanding being crushed by enough meteors to form a planet around him.

http://i35.tinypic.com/9a4rpk.jpg
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http://i36.tinypic.com/o9lez9.jpg

These are a couple of decent energy and blunt force durability feats.

Nibedicus

Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer and Alicia both thought he was going to die and he looked like that too. He recovered fast and that's it.

Surfer didn't took the blast of the ship, he just deflected it using his knowledge of trajectories. He was still KTFO with just deflecting a space-ship that shook the bedrock of manhattan island. Its a shit showing for a low herald nvm someone like surfer.

"Thought would happen" and "happen" are really different things. Especially if said "thoughts" were immediately proven wrong a page or two later. But unless you're saying that Surfer can recover from near-fatal injuries within a span of a few seconds I'd have to say that little to no damage occurred here. Especially as Surfer really hasn't been portrayed as a "healing factor" kinda guy.

Lots of heralds have crappier showings that this, especially if you count character statements of what COULD happen (Thor saying he would die from falling off a skyscraper for example).

h1a8

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What are you taking into account with your numbers?

An energy blast from some random villain blasts the contestants at 40 percent power. Superman/Surfer are unhurt while Thor has damage. He ramps it up continuosly and while Thor may be easier to hurt, he ultimately falls last to the assault.

There's a difference between how easy a being is to hurt, and how hard they are to put down. Which is why I'm asking you if your numbers are based on the ability to withstand superficial damage or being taken out. lol you didn't even look at my numbers. I gave Thor the most for energy durability (more than Superman and Surfer). I gave him the least for piercing (sharp objects) durability.

Now you have a problem with me actually stating that Thor is better than Superman and Surfer in something?

abhilegend

Originally posted by vince_slice
How about no-selling a cosmic bolt from Korvac that had the power to destroy a planet.

http://i38.tinypic.com/2n8q9s5.jpg

Or being turned into his own magnetized planet core, and withstanding being crushed by enough meteors to form a planet around him.

http://i35.tinypic.com/9a4rpk.jpg
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http://i36.tinypic.com/o9lez9.jpg

These are a couple of decent energy and blunt force durability feats.
Now we're talking about something.

Superman surviving the destruction of Krypton under a red sun and kryptonite radiation.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AdventuresOfSuperman461p14.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AdventuresOfSuperman461p17.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AdventuresOfSuperman461p18.jpg

FYI, krypton dwarfs Jupiter

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15273509_kryptonsize.jpg

Tanks the destruction of Dominus created Krypton

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15720990_169izw6.jpg
http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15720987_6dv2vc.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15720988_32zhs77.jpg

Tanks an explosion 50 times the size of a supernova (he was flinged backwards by the blast)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/37815/849845-18eh0_super.jpg

abhilegend

Originally posted by Nibedicus
"Thought would happen" and "happen" are really different things. Especially if said "thoughts" were immediately proven wrong a page or two later. But unless you're saying that Surfer can recover from near-fatal injuries within a span of a few seconds I'd have to say that little to no damage occurred here. Especially as Surfer really hasn't been portrayed as a "healing factor" kinda guy.

Lots of heralds have crappier showings that this, especially if you count character statements of what COULD happen (Thor saying he would die from falling off a skyscraper for example).
I would take the stance that surfer can heal from near fatal injuries very quickly in that time.

Surfer said he was fighting for his life against Spider man. Statements and actual showings are vastly different. This can't be lumped together in absurd low showings like Thor going into a coma by a falling ship mast.

Nibedicus

Originally posted by abhilegend
I would take the stance that surfer can heal from near fatal injuries very quickly in that time.

Surfer said he was fighting for his life against Spider man. Statements and actual showings are vastly different. This can't be lumped together in absurd low showings like Thor going into a coma by a falling ship mast.

But you're basing the whole "near fatal" injury on character statements, tho. Statements that get DIRECTLY corrected a few panels later. I really don't see how you arrived to this stance.

Which is what I'm saying. Especially in this example where statements actually GET contradicted by actual showings w/in the very same comic within a few panels.

abhilegend

Originally posted by Nibedicus
But you're basing the whole "near fatal" injury on character statements, tho. Statements that get DIRECTLY corrected a few panels later. I really don't see how you arrived to this stance.

Which is what I'm saying. Especially in this example where statements actually GET contradicted by actual showings w/in the very same comic within a few panels.
Surfer was actually shown in that state however as seen in scans.

Thor and Surfer didn't fight for their life against that fall or spider man though. Surfer was actually KTFO and near death as shown by Alicia's statements. Feats+statements>Statements.

Nibedicus

Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer was actually shown in that state however as seen in scans.

Thor and Surfer didn't fight for their life against that fall or spider man though. Surfer was actually KTFO and near death as shown by Alicia's statements. Feats+statements>Statements.

What part actually showed this "state"? To me, at most, it just looks like he was KOd for a few seconds (some people would call this "stunned" wink

.

If you could be specific about where you're getting this "near death" state within the comic outside of character statements, I'd love to see it.

abhilegend

Originally posted by Nibedicus
What part actually showed this "state"? To me, at most, it just looks like he was KOd for a few seconds (some people would call this "stunned" wink

.

If you could be specific about where you're getting this "near death" state within the comic outside of character statements, I'd love to see it.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-36.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-37.jpg

"I hope he's alive. Alicia, is he?". Its clear what the writer was going at.

Branlor Swift

Originally posted by abhilegend
He watched everyone getting killed as evidenced in the last scan.
He didn't disagree because he trusts steel. Your memory is wrong as usual. Steel made his assumption after the ship was slowed down by doomslayer. he didn't see anyone die.

He was yelling don't after the explosion as well indicating he saw dick

abhilegend

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
he didn't see anyone die.

He was yelling don't after the explosion as well indicating he saw dick
He saw millions die.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15720841_AdventuresOfSuperman478p22_zps8191c7e2.jpg

"oh god, he did it".

You suck at this bran. Let master carter handle lowballing.

huhu

Branlor Swift

Originally posted by abhilegend
He saw millions die.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15720841_AdventuresOfSuperman478p22_zps8191c7e2.jpg

"oh god, he did it".

You suck at this bran. Let master carter handle lowballing.

huhu if the moon blows up with a city on it. Then logically people will die

You're creating your own feat. Superman has real feats you can use instead

abhilegend

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
if the moon blows up with a city on it. Then logically people will die

You're creating your own feat. Superman has real feats you can use instead
He saw the moon blowing up and he only jumped in time after the explosion in that arc.

You are creating your own reality where a real superman feat doesn't exist.

Branlor Swift

Originally posted by abhilegend
He saw the moon blowing up and he only jumped in time after the explosion in that arc. prove it

abhilegend

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
prove it
Prove what? He saw the moon blowing up? You can read the scan, I think.

Branlor Swift

Originally posted by abhilegend
Prove what? He saw the moon blowing up? You can read the scan, I think. he never said he saw anything

You'd think there'd be a showing of him getting hit or a saying if the moon blew up on him as well

abhilegend

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
he never said he saw anything

You'd think there'd be a showing of him getting hit or a saying if the moon blew up on him as well

He said "he did it, he blew up the moon". That clearly states he was there when the moon blew up.

Not necessarily. The linear man clearly says you only need to survive one more trip and only his invulnerability saved him.

Branlor Swift

Originally posted by abhilegend
He said "he did it, he blew up the moon". That clearly states he was there when the moon blew up.

Not necessarily. The linear man clearly says you only need to survive one more trip and only his invulnerability saved him. Because a big bomb just hit zero.

Because Linear Man was getting ripped apart everytime he time traveled.
You need to be as invulnerable as Superman to travel time the way Linear Man's tech allows him.
http://i37.tinypic.com/zvodch.jpg

And this is what happens to Superman when he traveled through time in that arc. "Not a microsecond passes for him"
Notice how Superman didn't even know if the bomb went off. This follows him yelling "No don't" after we seen the moon blow up. We see it, Superman doesn't, but he knows it happened.
http://i37.tinypic.com/1677fjs.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/30uy9p1.jpg

Also, Linear Man would have had to send him through time as well. Which would have been hard had the explosion already hit Linear Man since he would have been disintegrated and Superman wouldn't have time traveled.

Now the feats Rao brought up on the other hand were way more impressive and actually happened.

abhilegend

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because a big bomb just hit zero.

Because Linear Man was getting ripped apart everytime he time traveled.
You need to be as invulnerable as Superman to travel time the way Linear Man's tech allows him.
http://i37.tinypic.com/zvodch.jpg I already posted that scan.

Because he was in a stasis field outside the time-space continuum. Not that the time literally stopped around him. He wasn't aging throughout his time jumps.
Because the bomb went off and propelled him through the time. Heck you can even see the explosion after which superman vanishes. You aren't helping your case here.

You can see him escaping when the moon explodes in a ship.

I brought up several feats other than this too.

Nibedicus

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-36.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/th_GalactusTheDevourer1-37.jpg

"I hope he's alive. Alicia, is he?". Its clear what the writer was going at.

It's more like the writer trying to create drama than show that the Surfer was nearly killed. Surfer does NOT have some sort of uber healing factor that allows him to just get up nonchalantly seconds after a near-fatal injury.

Hell, if writer's intent was the main basis of Surfer "being nearly killed", then the same thing for the Thor falling to his death scene could also be used.

Like I said, every single character statement was overruled by the fact that the Surfer simply woke up, stood up and look completely ok after said impact.

Like I said, there are lower feats out there, this isn't it.

Rage.Of.Olympus

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because a big bomb just hit zero.

Because Linear Man was getting ripped apart everytime he time traveled.
You need to be as invulnerable as Superman to travel time the way Linear Man's tech allows him.
http://i37.tinypic.com/zvodch.jpg

And this is what happens to Superman when he traveled through time in that arc. "Not a microsecond passes for him"
Notice how Superman didn't even know if the bomb went off. This follows him yelling "No don't" after we seen the moon blow up. We see it, Superman doesn't, but he knows it happened.
http://i37.tinypic.com/1677fjs.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/30uy9p1.jpg

Also, Linear Man would have had to send him through time as well. Which would have been hard had the explosion already hit Linear Man since he would have been disintegrated and Superman wouldn't have time traveled.

Now the feats Rao brought up on the other hand were way more impressive and actually happened.

MYTH-BUSTED.

abhilegend

Originally posted by Nibedicus
It's more like the writer trying to create drama than show that the Surfer was nearly killed. Surfer does NOT have some sort of uber healing factor that allows him to just get up nonchalantly seconds after a near-fatal injury.

Hell, if writer's intent was the main basis of Surfer "being nearly killed", then the same thing for the Thor falling to his death scene could also be used.

Like I said, every single character statement was overruled by the fact that the Surfer simply woke up, stood up and look completely ok after said impact.

Like I said, there are lower feats out there, this isn't it.
Agree to disagree then.Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
MYTH-BUSTED.
You still butthurt bro?

Dampyre

Originally posted by abhilegend
That he is.

Says the guy who's literally in love with a comic book character named Superman.

abhilegend

Originally posted by Dampyre
Says the guy who's literally in love with a comic book character named Superman.
facepalm
Way to go champ. What tipped you off?

Rage.Of.Olympus

Originally posted by carver9
The good showing about that fight is Surfer withstanding a hammer shot without damage. His blunt force is insane.

Scans?

Rage.Of.Olympus

Originally posted by abhilegend
Agree to disagree then.
You still butthurt bro?

Butt-hurt? HA!

I wish you weren't made to drop it, I was enjoying it. You work harder at lowballing others than you do supporting Superman.

abhilegend

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Scans?
You know who you're asking, right?

abhilegend

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Butt-hurt? HA!

I wish you weren't made to drop it, I was enjoying it. You work harder at lowballing others than you do supporting Superman.
Yep, butthurt seeing your "myth-buster".

I was owning every thor bag. How was that 1/5th of universe buster btw?

carver9

ABHI fts he is posting is incorrect and invalid AND misleading.

abhilegend

Originally posted by carver9
ABHI fts he is posting is incorrect and invalid AND misleading.
durelly

carver9

Originally posted by abhilegend
durelly

Example...you stating Superman survived 50 super novas when it was stated on panel that e was hit by the electromagnetic field that was generated from the blast "and be outflew the rest". Then its debatable if that scene really happened. Misleading like usual. Your other scans are misleading as well. You're not good at this...leave this to Rao.

carver9

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Scans?

Didnt Thor hit Surfer with a hammer strike when he asked him if he wants to die on Mars or did he hammer strike the ground next to Surfer?

Rage.Of.Olympus

Looked like the ground to me.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yep, butthurt seeing your "myth-buster".

I was owning every thor bag. How was that 1/5th of universe buster btw?

What about it? I'm having fun at your expense and mocking your idiocy. That doesn't mean I'm butt-hurt.

If I was coming off butt-hurt before, you just took my place. You weren't owning anything besides brain cells. What about it?

-Pr-

Guys, how about we stop making things so personal?

celeyhyga17

Most fun I've had here in days...

TheHulk

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, how about we stop making things so personal? Pr...seriously even you should know what would happen,when Carver(Hulk),Rage(Thor) and Abhi(Superman) start talking to each other.

Shit will rain,Fire can be mixed with water,Cold will become hot,Summer becomes winter and Justin Bieber will grow a pair. What the f**k?

Branlor Swift

Originally posted by abhilegend
I already posted that scan.

Because he was in a stasis field outside the time-space continuum. Not that the time literally stopped around him. He wasn't aging throughout his time jumps.
Because the bomb went off and propelled him through the time. Heck you can even see the explosion after which superman vanishes. You aren't helping your case here.

You can see him escaping when the moon explodes in a ship.

I brought up several feats other than this too. you didn't post that scan...

Superman literally was telling people to watch out for the bomb exploding. He never saw it explode. He was placed in stasis and not a microsecond passed. That's why his thoughts carried on right after he was out of stasis.
There is no bomb exploding behind him. It says he's been ricochetting through time ever since.

So Linear Man had time to escape in a ship from the center of the moon when the timer hit zero and he was 6 feet away from Supes, but he waited till after it blew up and hit Superman to save Superman? How is this more logically than porting Supes out?

eaebiakuya

Guys, the "myth bust" about the feat of Thor and the explosion of 1/5 universe is confirmed or not ???

And about the Superman feat of tanking a explosion 50x the size of Supernova, he really tanked the entire explosion or only the shockwave ?

carver9

Lol...that's the scene ABHI use as proof of Superman thinking/reacting at nano second speeds when it was revealed that Superman was placed in a time flux during that incident. LMBSAO.

Philosoph�a

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...that's the scene ABHI use as proof of Superman thinking/reacting at nano second speeds when it was revealed that Superman was placed in a time flux during that incident. LMBSAO. "Laughing my btch smelling ass off"?

Also, stop typing.

Rao Kal El

Superman was tanking all those explosions on time and time again.

Just so We clear it out.

Here is one of those explosions that send him flying trough time and He needed to be right in there in order to "time travel"

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Invulnerability/th_ActionComics664p20_zpsf78e757f.jpg, http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Invulnerability/th_ActionComics664p21_zpsfb99ab70.jpg

Branlor Swift

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Superman was tanking all those explosions on time and time again.

Just so We clear it out.

Here is one of those explosions that send him flying trough time and He needed to be right in there in order to "time travel"

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Invulnerability/th_ActionComics664p20_zpsf78e757f.jpg, http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Invulnerability/th_ActionComics664p21_zpsfb99ab70.jpg There's a difference between a sudden explosion, and a couple rockets that eventually releases enough energy to cause one.

The atom bomb for example, Superman didn't even know if it went off. The moon, Superman was yelling don't after the readers see it.

abhilegend

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
you didn't post that scan... I did.

That much is true. The question isn't about whether he saw it or not. Its about whether he tanked those explosions or not and he did tanked. That meant he wasn't aging throughout the time jump. If not a microsecond passed for him, he shouldn't be able to interact with anyone he did.
Whenever an explosion occured.

Yep. That's not how things happened in that arc.

abhilegend

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...that's the scene ABHI use as proof of Superman thinking/reacting at nano second speeds when it was revealed that Superman was placed in a time flux during that incident. LMBSAO.
That's not the same issue. You don't know WTF are you talking about.

Branlor Swift

Seems we're at an impasse.

Although I'm curious of the evidence to support your view of this, it doesn't really matter. Super guy has more impressive feats than the non feats in that arc that everything supports the explosions never touching him.

The real question is why didn't you include Hulk in this thread

abhilegend

Originally posted by carver9
Example...you stating Superman survived 50 super novas when it was stated on panel that e was hit by the electromagnetic field that was generated from the blast "and be outflew the rest". Then its debatable if that scene really happened. Misleading like usual. Your other scans are misleading as well. You're not good at this...leave this to Rao.
That's not what happened. You can read, I take it?

abhilegend

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Seems we're at an impasse.

Although I'm curious of the evidence to support your view of this, it doesn't really matter. Super guy has more impressive feats than the non feats in that arc that everything supports the explosions never touching him.

The real question is why didn't you include Hulk in this thread
As usual.
The sun eater collapsing and superman arriving engulfed in flames and his protective suit torn apart.
Hulk would solo.
sneer

Branlor Swift

Originally posted by abhilegend
As usual.
The sun eater collapsing and superman arriving engulfed in flames and his protective suit torn apart.
Hulk would solo.
sneer it was all about the sun eater feat wasn't it? I'd go back and look at that issue, but my computer is so far away, and my bed so comfy

But I am actually curious to see what arguments would be made for Hulk considering how neglected his durability is in threads by even Hulk fans.

psycho gundam

we did. new earth superman is not even 1/10 as durable as grey hulk biscuits

abhilegend

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
it was all about the sun eater feat wasn't it? I'd go back and look at that issue, but my computer is so far away, and my bed so comfy

But I am actually curious to see what arguments would be made for Hulk considering how neglected his durability is in threads by even Hulk fans.
No.Originally posted by psycho gundam
we did. new earth superman is not even 1/10 as durable as grey hulk biscuits
Fail baiting.

Rao Kal El

I have to point his out before my rebuttal to your other post

Originally posted by Branlor Swift

So Linear Man had time to escape in a ship from the center of the moon when the timer hit zero and he was 6 feet away from Supes, but he waited till after it blew up and hit Superman to save Superman? How is this more logically than porting Supes out?

You assume The linear Men was using the ship, but that ship was used by the Legionaries to move Dev-Em and them to earth... here is the scan

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Invulnerability/th_AdventuresOfSuperman478p18_zps5a03d364.jpg

Now onto our conversation

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
There's a difference between a sudden explosion, and a couple rockets that eventually releases enough energy to cause one.

The atom bomb for example, Superman didn't even know if it went off. The moon, Superman was yelling don't after the readers see it.

That might be a writers error.

Most explosions on that arc were explained to open a hole in time, which in turn moved Superman in the time stream.

Most of the time he ended up KO because of the force of the explosion.

While He is on the time stream the linear man has a short period of "time" where He can actually attempt to move him to the desired era.

If We some how use the idea of him being moved or plucked out of the time stream BEFORE the explosion takes place, then what is the purpose of having him taking those explosions? it will be just as easy as to pluck him out of the time stream with out the need of having a force that will open a hole in time.

He has to be on that place because the explosion is going to open a hole in time, the explosion happens then the hole opens, the linear plucks him right where the hole opens and tries to move him around the time stream.

Otherwise how do We explain him being KO'ed

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Invulnerability/th_AdventuresOfSuperman477p21_zps48958c1f.jpg http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Invulnerability/th_AdventuresOfSuperman477p22_zps5c3d0337.jpg http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Invulnerability/th_ActionComics664p01_zpsa93f93fd.jpg http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Invulnerability/th_ActionComics664p02_zps5a7e9241.jpg

Here explains how the explosions are the one's actually knocking him around the time stream.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Invulnerability/th_ActionComics664p12_zps109c0c30.jpg

It does not get any clearer than this.

Here He was at the "Dinosaur" era and after the explosion he is at in the "Ice Age" it obvious the explosions he has to endure are actually moving him on the time stream.

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Invulnerability/th_ActionComics664p15_zps55837aaf.jpg http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/SUPERMAN/Invulnerability/th_ActionComics664p16_zpsd8fc2657.jpg

Superman does have better feats than Surviving that moon explosion, though, the sun eater is one of them.

Raisen

Geez. I was undecided before but now I'm thoroughly convinced that Super-Suckers are worse than Thor-Bags. Thanks for clearing this up for me Abhi.

Damborgson

Originally posted by Raisen
Geez. I was undecided before but now I'm thoroughly convinced that Super-Suckers are worse than Thor-Bags. Thanks for clearing this up for me Abhi.

They're known as Kal-Qaeda actually

Dampyre

Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm
Way to go champ. What tipped you off?

A couple of posters over at Herochat. I really don't know who was more annoying, the Superman cheerleaders over there or the Thor zealots at Alvaro's.

Rao Kal El

Originally posted by Damborgson
They're known as Kal-Qaeda actually

I prefer El-Kaeda stick out tongue

Raisen

Originally posted by Damborgson
They're known as Kal-Qaeda actually

I like super suckers better. either way, we're in agreement that they suck. right?

abhilegend

Originally posted by Dampyre
A couple of posters over at Herochat. I really don't know who was more annoying, the Superman cheerleaders over there or the Thor zealots at Alvaro's.
That's why you deleted your account and ran away?

laughing out loud

Originally posted by Raisen
Geez. I was undecided before but now I'm thoroughly convinced that Super-Suckers are worse than Thor-Bags. Thanks for clearing this up for me Abhi.

STFU already.

Damborgson

Originally posted by Raisen
I like super suckers better. either way, we're in agreement that they suck. right?

Sure, why not lol.

Raisen

Originally posted by Damborgson
Sure, why not lol.
Alliance?
thumb up

JakeTheBank

lmfao

This thread devolved rather quickly.

Horrificus

From a completely disconnected, neutral and unbiased point of view, I can tell you that the "Pro-Thor Camp", (as most KMC forum members respectfully refer to them roll eyes (sarcastic)

) seem to hold the most intellectual high-ground and exercise the most positive communication skills of the various fan-bases. closedeyes

Ever offering unwavering respect to opposing views, while consistently providing indisputable evidence in all debates, it is a pleasure to observe how they defend their opinions and simultaneously supply much needed leadership to the boards.nerd

Kudos, Pro-Thor Camp! thumbup

Golgo13

I don't know. Rao and Abi are owning it in here. wink

JakeTheBank

Pr needs to reign in his minions.

psycho gundam

pr's just the political puppet/figurehead.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its 9 AM here in india. Originally posted by psycho gundam
i know. you didn't sleep Originally posted by abhilegend
Of course I didn't.

sneer

abhi is the ace of spades

JakeTheBank

Let me believe the lie.

psycho gundam

nay

JakeTheBank

I actually like Superman, though. Don't make me hate him.

Badabing

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Pr needs to reign in his minions. Leave J.A.M.P. (Junior Assistant Mod Paul) out of this. sneer

psycho gundam

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I actually like Superman, though. Don't make me hate him. that's the reason why you're rage's acolyte

JakeTheBank

I'm still waiting for my inevitable breakdown on the forum.

World War Jake will be a glorious crossover summer event.

abhilegend

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
laughing out loud

I'm still waiting for my inevitable breakdown on the forum.

World War Jake will be a glorious crossover summer event.
It would be like chaos war.

biscuits

JakeTheBank

I'd like to think the day I snap would be a fairly straight forward, easy to read, popcorn fun kind of event.

abhilegend

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'd like to think the day I snap would be a fairly straight forward, easy to read, popcorn fun kind of event.
So, AvX?

JakeTheBank

Originally posted by abhilegend
So, AvX?

I'm thinking Sinestro Corps War.

abhilegend

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm thinking Sinestro Corps War.
Maximum carnage?

JakeTheBank

Originally posted by abhilegend
Maximum carnage?

Lol, no.

abhilegend

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lol, no.
Sure bud.

Badabing

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
laughing out loud

I'm still waiting for my inevitable breakdown on the forum.

World War Jake will be a glorious crossover summer event. mmm

I could always sic Carver and Quan on you.

JakeTheBank

Originally posted by Badabing
mmm

I could always sic Carver and Quan on you.

You'd have to go full Colossus Big-C to even give me pause.

-Pr-

Well, this thread won't last much longer at this rate.

abhilegend

Some other superman feats

Tanks more than a planet's worth of gravity

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_adventuresof618c.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_adventuresof618d.jpg

Survives a blast that tore a skyfather apart

http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=Supermanv2071-17.jpg
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=AOS494PHYSICALLYRESTRAINSALORDOFHELL.jpg

Survives the 4-d bomb of Aztek which was used to destroy moon in Rock Of Ages and which severely hurts Maggeddon

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15733655_JLA04120.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15733660_JLA04122.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15733664_JLA04123.jpg