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Who are,by fts and character and writer opinion,the top 10 smartest characters in marvel?

#1 The inventor of Hulk's purple pants.

...
the rest.

Originally posted by janus77
#1 The inventor of Hulk's purple pants.

Not in order.

Doom
Reed
Stark
Pym
Beast
Peter Parker
Amadeus
T'challa
Banner
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That's about all I got.

EDIT: is this for the whole MU? Or just earthbound humans?

Richards
Doom
Stark
Pym
Essex
Banner
T'Challa
Cho
High Evolutionary
Thanos

Assuming Earth based only

Reed Richards
Victor Von Doom
Hank Pym
Henry Mc Coy
Amadeus Cho
Otto Octavius
Bruce Banner
Nathaniel Essex
Tony Stark
Mad Thinker

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Richards
Doom
Stark
Pym
Essex
Banner
T'Challa
Cho
High Evolutionary
Thanos sounds about right, though I assume it's not in order

What about the Supreme Intelligence? Ultron? Worldmind?

Ted Sallis recreated the super soldier formula from scratch, and had before designed genetic modifications to humans that would allow them to breath pollution as if it were air.

Earth bound guys

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Richards
Doom
Stark
Pym
Essex
Banner
T'Challa
Cho
High Evolutionary
Thanos


In order imho would be minus two subs

Ultron
Doom
Richards
Pym
High Evo
Kang
Thanos
Essex
Stark
Banner

Thanos
High Evolutionary
Reed
Doom
Stark
Pym
Essex
Banner
T'Challa
Cho

damn infinite potential bias...

Sallis should be there, top 10 at least uhuh

Ultron
Pym
Richards
Doom
Thanos
Stark
Banner
Beast
Peter Parker
Doc Oct

Oh and Ultron can be broken down enough times to be the top 10 all by himself.

Too many Thanosi and Ultrons in this thread.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Earth bound guys

Reed Richards I think.

Originally posted by SamZED
Too many Thanosi and Ultrons in this thread.

Ultron counts.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Richards
Doom
Stark
Pym
Essex
Banner
T'Challa
Cho
High Evolutionary
Thanos

No Beast?

The Master!!!!!

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Master_Main.jpg

Doom is the 10 smartest people.

Originally posted by Galan007
Doom is the 10 smartest people.

Richards
Banner
Doom
Stark
Pym
Mc Coy
Essex
Apocalypse
High Evolutionary
The Leader

Honorable mention to T`Challa, Cho, Magneto and Prof X

Leaving out Thanos, Hyperstorm (who is arguably 1st) etc since it is earth bound guys

Originally posted by Mshinu
Richards
Banner
Doom
Stark
Pym
Mc Coy
Essex
Apocalypse
High Evolutionary
The Leader

Honorable mention to T`Challa, Cho, Magneto and Prof X

Leaving out Thanos, Hyperstorm (who is arguably 1st) etc since it is earth bound guys

You're forgetting Ultron. :P

Originally posted by Odekahn
You're forgetting Ultron. :P

Ultron is not a guy, he is a machine. You know, like Banner`s ipod...

Originally posted by Mshinu
Richards
Banner
Doom
Stark
Pym
Mc Coy
Essex
Apocalypse
High Evolutionary
The Leader

Honorable mention to T`Challa, Cho, Magneto and Prof X

Leaving out Thanos, Hyperstorm (who is arguably 1st) etc since it is earth bound guys looks perfect

Originally posted by Mshinu
Ultron is not a guy, he is a machine. You know, like Banner`s ipod...

Ultron is a character. Doesn't matter if he's organic.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Ultron is a character. Doesn't matter if he's organic.

Okay, I rank him under MODOK, Cerebro and Banner`s Ipod then.

Isn't there anyone we can replace with Apocalypse?

Originally posted by Mshinu
Okay, I rank him under MODOK, Cerebro and Banner`s Ipod then.

Cerebro isn't a character, it's a device. Ultron is a character, he interacts.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thanos
High Evolutionary
Reed
Doom
Stark
Pym
Essex
Banner
T'Challa
Cho



Earth Alone

Reed
Doom
Stark
Pym
Essex
Banner
Beast
T'Challa
Cho
The Master

Originally posted by Odekahn
Cerebro isn't a character, it's a device. Ultron is a character, he interacts.

So does a tamagotchi.

Originally posted by Mshinu
So does a tamagotchi.

Let's not beat around the bush, I'm going to go ahead and ask you. Are you saying that Ultron isn't a character?

If you aren't saying that, then you acknowledge his is and is viable to be in the lineup per the title of the thread. And in that case, he's at the top.

Purely on Earth, not really in order-

Valeria Richards (numerous times in Hickman's run it was stated she was already as smarter if not smarter than Reed)
Reed Richards
Doom
Pym
Stark
Banner
T'challa
Sinister
Beast/Dark Beast
Maximus

And then you've got guys like Cho, Sugar Man, Leader, Zola etc

That's purely the best in terms of physical and life sciences though. I mean, Dr Strange and Professor Xavier are just as smart as some people on this list, but in very different areas.
And then if you step away from Earth you've obviously got the likes of Thanos, High Evolutionary, Galactus etc

T'Challa is a dick... has cure for cancer.... gives finger to the world.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Purely on Earth, not really in order-

Valeria Richards (numerous times in Hickman's run it was stated she was already as smarter if not smarter than Reed)
Reed Richards
Doom
Pym
Stark
Banner
T'challa
Sinister
Beast/Dark Beast
Maximus

And then you've got guys like Cho, Sugar Man, Leader, Zola etc

That's purely the best in terms of physical and life sciences though. I mean, Dr Strange and Professor Xavier are just as smart as some people on this list, but in very different areas.
And then if you step away from Earth you've obviously got the likes of Thanos, High Evolutionary, Galactus etc as per OP performed feats only. Valeria is smart as hell but its really all talk at this point when it comes to her being smarter than her father. On a side note her plan to subjugate the Kree Empire was deleted because her future self told her to....

Galactus is smarter than Reed, Doom, and Thanos directly

And I can't imagine Ultron is smarter than him either

If Galactus actually prepped against something other than eating, there'd be no threats

Plus you have the Celestials as well

Originally posted by Odekahn
Let's not beat around the bush, I'm going to go ahead and ask you. Are you saying that Ultron isn't a character?

If you aren't saying that, then you acknowledge his is and is viable to be in the lineup per the title of the thread. And in that case, he's at the top. you mean he is number 1?

Originally posted by Odekahn
Let's not beat around the bush, I'm going to go ahead and ask you. Are you saying that Ultron isn't a character?

If you aren't saying that, then you acknowledge his is and is viable to be in the lineup per the title of the thread. And in that case, he's at the top.

How about you stop putting words in my mouth you little shit? I`ll include Ultron if there is a Smartest Toaster thread.

Lot of Ultron hate in that post there....

I might as well put my own list.

1)Reed Richards
2)Dr Doom
3)Ultron(if he really is considered)
4)Bruce Banner(been stated my Dr Doom as 4th )
5)Hank Pym
6)Tony Stark
7)Hank McCoy
8)Cho(wasn't Pym stated to be 8th?)
9)T'Challa
10)-insert here-

Pym told Cho he was now #11,

I wanna know why Ultron isn't being allowed, he is an earth based character...

OP doesn't even state Earth based character.

My list:

Supreme Intelligence (hell even the name says it all :P)
Worldmind
Ultron
Thanos
High Evolutionary
Reed
Doom
Pym
Stark
Banner

excluded:
Watcher, Celestials, Galactus and other Skyfather-Abstrac+t beings

Originally posted by Mshinu
How about you stop putting words in my mouth you little shit? I`ll include Ultron if there is a Smartest Toaster thread.

It's a smartest earthbound character thread. And I was putting the words there for you because without them you look really retarded.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Pym told Cho he was now #11,

I wanna know why Ultron isn't being allowed, he is an earth based character...

Ultron is allowed. One person in denial doesn't change common sense.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Supreme Intelligence
This is actually quite a valid option, as last we saw, the new Supreme Intelligence was being formed from the remnants of the Council of Reeds. That definitely shifts the balance of smartness in the universe.

Banner / Reed / Doom
Tony Stark
The Leader
Pym / Cho (imo Cho is superior)
Mad Thinker
Hercules (foremost specialist in the field of women)
Professor X.

Originally posted by Odekahn
It's a smartest earthbound character thread. And I was putting the words there for you because without them you look really retarded.

Since you don`t get the obvious, I simply decided not to include machine intelligence in my list. All your whining about "being a character" will not change that.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Ultron is allowed. One person in denial doesn't change common sense.

Screw you hippie.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Since you don`t get the obvious, I simply decided not to include machine intelligence in my list. All your whining about "being a character" will not change that.

You're right it won't change it, but your exclusion with the reason "I just don't wanna" is idiotic and laughable. You obviously don't acknowledge his superiority because you don't like the character. QQ.

The Leader?

The Master of the World?

Using machines is kind of cheating.

Ultron isn't a machine....

He is a synthetic lifeform

ultron's a machine alright, he'd still be below high evolutionary, richards, etc.

Originally posted by Odekahn
It's a smartest earthbound character thread. And I was putting the words there for you because without them you look really retarded. Does Tiamut qualify then?

What a creepy smiley.

Originally posted by carver9
Using machines is kind of cheating. Originally posted by pym-ftw
Ultron isn't a machine....

He is a synthetic lifeform Originally posted by 753
ultron's a machine alright Made me laugh.

Originally posted by 753
ultron's a machine alright, he'd still be below high evolutionary, richards, etc.

Machines need a human element to work, he doesn't

High evolutionary is probably a better biologist, not smarter than Ultron.

Sure, Reed, Doom, & Pym have the most varied fields in which they excel.

Tony Stark
Bruce Banner
Beast
Spiderman
Reed Richards
Doom

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Machines need a human element to work, he doesn't

High evolutionary is probably a better biologist, not smarter than Ultron.

Sure, Reed, Doom, & Pym have the most varied fields in which they excel.

What has Ultron done to suggest he's smarter than HE?

Sure he had him at a disadvantage in Conquest, but that's due to having the entire Phalanx on his side.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Machines need a human element to work, he doesn't

High evolutionary is probably a better biologist, not smarter than Ultron.

Sure, Reed, Doom, & Pym have the most varied fields in which they excel. machines do not necessarily require human operators and automatic functioning doesn't make a machine alive. ultron is endowed with so-called strong AI, if that's what you mean.

HE>ultron all around

How is Nemesis not on this list?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Machines need a human element to work

Go watch Terminator, bro.

Reed, Doom, Pym, Banner, Stark, T'Challa, Beast, High Evolutionary, Sinister, Thanos are generally the top ones imo in terms of pure scientific prowess. There are other runner ups like Cho, Forge, Leader, Ultron, Thinker or people who are also geniuses but excel in different things such as Loki.

Originally posted by 753
machines do not necessarily require human operators and automatic functioning doesn't make a machine alive. ultron is endowed with so-called strong AI, if that's what you mean.

HE>ultron all around
Machines by definition are human operated, he isn't even a robot because he wrote his own directive.

Didn't appear that way in their last appearance together...

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Machines by definition are human operated, he isn't even a robot because he wrote his own directive.

Didn't appear that way in their last appearance together...


In terms of intelligence and scientific prowess, it really did. Ultron needed HE to create more Warlocks and create the machinery and the process to transfer Ultron's conciousness into Warlock's body. Because he couldn't do it on his own, even with the entire Phalanx at his disposal.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
In terms of intelligence and scientific prowess, it really did. Ultron needed HE to create more Warlocks and create the machinery and the process to transfer Ultron's conciousness into Warlock's body. Because he couldn't do it on his own, even with the entire Phalanx at his disposal.
In an earlier post I said high Evo is the much better biologist

Originally posted by pym-ftw
In an earlier post I said high Evo is the much better biologist

In terms of science smarts though (which is what we're focusing on), HE is better than Ultron at pretty much everything.

Robotics in all forms go to Ultron

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Machines by definition are human operated, he isn't even a robot because he wrote his own directive.

Didn't appear that way in their last appearance together...
no... automatons such as robots are machines as well and ultron is one. he was a computer modeled after pym and had built-in learning capacities that let him gain self-awareness and rebel. pretty standard hal 9000 shit.

it sure did to me.

Getting owned by Ultron made him superior?

What did Apocalypse do that made him so high on the list?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Getting owned by Ultron made him superior? is that what happened? HE knew that adam warlock would be safely stored away and that ultron would eventually be undone freeing AW's body to receive his essence. he played the robot.

regardless, this thread isn't about power comparisons and even if it were, ultron had the phalanx's backing when he captured HE and coerced him into transfering his mind into warlock's body.

Sad thing is, out of all the smart guys Tony has it best. He's got style and gets the Beeches. The rest are deformed, have an f'ed up life, or have zero personality. Tony wins in the end.

Originally posted by 753
is that what happened? HE knew that adam warlock would be safely stored away and that ultron would eventually be undone freeing AW's body to receive his essence. he played the robot.

regardless, this thread isn't about power comparisons and even if it were, ultron had the phalanx's backing when he captured HE and coerced him into transfering his mind into warlock's body.
I don't understand how power wouldn't be considered, Ultron built his body...

Originally posted by Mshinu
How about you stop putting words in my mouth you little shit? I`ll include Ultron if there is a Smartest Toaster thread. Mom?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Ultron isn't a machine....

He is a synthetic lifeform So is my sack.

I think the Leader absorbed All Knowledge in the Universe a long time ago, via Watcher tech.

Fact.

Hmm well as the creator of this thread, I already stated later that *Earth Bound Heroes*lol you can add villains though......which include Ultron

Wolverine.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Hmm well as the creator of this thread, I already stated later that *Earth Bound Heroes*lol you can add villains though......which include Ultron Well, the Leader might be considered a "hero" to people with tainted skin and cranial deformities.

Oh Yeah! The Leader Rules, Baby!

Originally posted by pym-ftw
I don't understand how power wouldn't be considered, Ultron built his body... HE has ascended to godhood more than once, the last time around he did it by assimilating and synthesizing the PC. he is now a world-maker that acts as a counterpart to Galactus. has his own heralds too.

ultron had the phalanx to back him up against HE in conquest.