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Both at their peak.

1. Both use full powers and abilties no BFR
2. The above with BFR on

Who wins in each of the above?

Genis.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Genis.

I legitimately don't know how? Please refresh my memory. I remember him being powerful but I don't remember him being that powerful.

genis didnt get up to high skyfather lvl did he? i know he got uber strong but not odin lvl

Originally posted by Raisen
I legitimately don't know how? Please refresh my memory. I remember him being powerful but I don't remember him being that powerful.
Odin at his peak shook the multiverse in a shared feat with another skyfather. Genis at his peak destroyed and recreated it.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Odin at his peak shook the multiverse in a shared feat with another skyfather. Genis at his peak destroyed and recreated it.

oh ....

Genis helped a weak unrelenting Eternity die with the help of a concept. Then he needed help from the same concept to jumpstart the universe back.

Odin wins via bearhug submission like vs Seth.

Odin

Genis!

Originally posted by TheGodKiller

Odin at his peak shook the multiverse in a shared feat with another skyfather.

Genis at his peak destroyed and recreated it.


I wouldn't say he "re-created" the Multiverse though,
because the Multiverse exploded out of Entropy.
Genis did "Bang" it into being though.

Genis definitely destroyed the infinite universeS that make up the Multiverse.
(infinite universeS made of planets/stars/galaxies and so on)

Originally posted by Sundipped
Genis helped a weak unrelenting Eternity die with the help of a concept. Then he needed help from the same concept to jumpstart the universe back.

Odin wins via bearhug submission like vs Seth. Eternity wasn't weak, let it go.

^
Please go back and read CM#6. Thanks.

Or you could just read it for the first time.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I wouldn't say he "re-created" the Multiverse though,
because the Multiverse exploded out of Entropy.
Genis did "Bang" it into being though.

Genis definitely destroyed the infinite universeS that make up the Multiverse.
(infinite universeS made of planets/stars/galaxies and so on)
Which means that he recreated it. Glad to see we're on the same page here.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller

Which means that he recreated it.
Glad to see we're on the same page here.
Well just to be clear imo,
without him ... yes, I agree, the Multiverse never would've re-started.

But in terms of actually shaping space-time into a functioning Multiverse,
filled with all its goodies which were also reshaped into existence ...
... this creation process was not Genis' doing.
It was a self-perpetuating process which consists of Eternity/Entropy.

That was my point good friend, it that was yours, then

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That aside, Genis did remake a Universe during HOM,
he blinked it in & out of existence. Wanda didn't give him this power,
she only accelerated his potential which was already inherent within him.

Photon (post-insane) was seen by Songbird taking out All Futures in one swoop.

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My point now being,
who knows, it's even possible his gun (an extension of his power)
not only exploded Entropy but also shaped him into Eternity as well.

I doubt it, but it's not out of the realm of plausibility considering.

... just sayin ...

Am I the only one who remembers Insane Genis' brief scuffle with King Thor? His battle with Phyla-Vell?

Odin stomps.

That was also King Thor very early into the Reigning, not the endgame version who was legitimately skyfather level.

Did Genis display any sort of resistance to the level of telepathy Odin has?

Genis has omniversal level telepathy as Photon, as far as I know, his powers didn't increase.

Originally posted by Galan007
Am I the only one who remembers Insane Genis' brief scuffle with King Thor? His battle with Phyla-Vell?

Odin stomps. The brief scuffle with KT didn't prove anything...

Originally posted by Mindset
The brief scuffle with KT didn't prove anything... It proved that a n00b KT was capable of breaching Genis' shields, at the very least.

And what about IG's battle with Phyla? What did that prove? If I am forgetting any specifics, please let me know, but I seem to recall Phyla smacking the crap out of him throughout most of their battle.

Originally posted by Galan007
It proved that a n00b KT was capable of breaching Genis' shields, at the very least.

And what about IG's battle with Phyla? What did that prove? If I am forgetting any specifics, please let me know, but I seem to recall Phyla smacking the crap out of him throughout most of their battle. It proved nothing.

I don't even remember what happened, so it probably didn't prove anything either.

Odin, don't really think this is much of a fight.

Genis is crazy powerful as seen by his fight with King Thor (Noob version), confident Sentry etc. but he's no match for Odin. And if caught unaware he can be f*cked up, IIRC Atlas and Phyla messed him up pretty good.

He is pretty unique and his nature affords him some powerful abilities such as his telepathy, defying death IIRC but that doesn't seem to translate into actual battle.

Rage, do me a huge favor and kill yourself.

Originally posted by Mindset
Rage, do me a huge favor and kill yourself.

I would but your anus would miss me too much.

Just do me a solid and jump in front of a train.

Originally posted by Mindset
Just do me a solid and jump in front of a train.

Stop trying to get into my pants you f*g.

Also, can anyone give me a legitimate reason why Odin couldn't just duplicate Zemo's feat and defeat Genis via time manipulation? Surely Zemo /w/ Moonstones isn't above Odin..?

Be a pal and eat rat poison.

Originally posted by Galan007
Also, can anyone give me a legitimate reason why Odin couldn't just duplicate Zemo's feat and defeat Genis via time manipulation? Surely Zemo /w/ Moonstones isn't above Odin..? I'm getting real tired of your shit, Galan.

Originally posted by Galan007
Also, can anyone give me a legitimate reason why Odin couldn't just duplicate Zemo's feat and defeat Genis via time manipulation? Surely Zemo /w/ Moonstones isn't above Odin..?

Oh yeah, forgot about Zemo.

Genis-Vell is has some pretty crazy feats but so many are vague and from what I've seen he has no business taking on Odin. His energy discharge helped Entropy create everything and Songbird saw him destroy the Universe due to the Photon gaps made but that doesn't translate into battle power.

We have plenty of fights from him to know where he ranks and it's no where near Skyfather.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


We have plenty of fights from him to know where he ranks and it's no where near Skyfather. Hilarious.

Genis is just one of those characters with a universal feat, and an in fight history where he's like trans level at best.

Originally posted by Mindset
I'm getting real tired of your shit, Galan. http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15849353_Untitled.jpg

Genis wasn't trying to hurt KT.

Genis one-shot killed Drang.

As you know, if Drang and Sturm would've battled KT and all Asgard,
then all of Asgard including Earth, KT, and the two giants die as cosmic
awareness revealed this to KT via Genis.

Originally posted by Galan007
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15849353_Untitled.jpg The troll strikes again....shocking. As I said just before I left, I was leaving for many reasons and you were the straw that broke the camels back. But keeping thinking your actually important. To me your just a pest and rather not waste my time hence why I left. You know....actually have a life rather then be "edgy" on a message board. Yet that somehow equals I can't deal with life? Haha adorable, just adorable. That shows your character more then anything.

But thanks for proving my point your an annoying troll who thinks he's so "badass". Keep the faith

lol

^Shots fired.

Originally posted by Mindset
The troll strikes again....shocking. As I said just before I left, I was leaving for many reasons and you were the straw that broke the camels back. But keeping thinking your actually important. To me your just a pest and rather not waste my time hence why I left. You know....actually have a life rather then be "edgy" on a message board. Yet that somehow equals I can't deal with life? Haha adorable, just adorable. That shows your character more then anything.

But thanks for proving my point your an annoying troll who thinks he's so "badass". Keep the faith

LOL

Originally posted by Mr Master
Genis wasn't trying to hurt KT.

Genis one-shot killed Drang.

As you know, if Drang and Sturm would've battled KT and all Asgard,
then all of Asgard including Earth, KT, and the two giants die as cosmic
awareness revealed this to KT via Genis.

King Thor at that level <<< King Thor by the end of the Reigning <<< Odin, though.

King Thor at his peak would have destroyed Drang with no real effort. Odin would have blinked him away.

Originally posted by Mindset
The troll strikes again....shocking. As I said just before I left, I was leaving for many reasons and you were the straw that broke the camels back. But keeping thinking your actually important. To me your just a pest and rather not waste my time hence why I left. You know....actually have a life rather then be "edgy" on a message board. Yet that somehow equals I can't deal with life? Haha adorable, just adorable. That shows your character more then anything.

But thanks for proving my point your an annoying troll who thinks he's so "badass". Keep the faith Reported for socking.

Originally posted by Mindset
The troll strikes again....shocking. As I said just before I left, I was leaving for many reasons and you were the straw that broke the camels back. But keeping thinking your actually important. To me your just a pest and rather not waste my time hence why I left. You know....actually have a life rather then be "edgy" on a message board. Yet that somehow equals I can't deal with life? Haha adorable, just adorable. That shows your character more then anything.

But thanks for proving my point your an annoying troll who thinks he's so "badass". Keep the faith

Originally posted by Mr Master
Genis wasn't trying to hurt KT.

Genis one-shot killed Drang.

As you know, if Drang and Sturm would've battled KT and all Asgard,
then all of Asgard including Earth, KT, and the two giants die as cosmic
awareness revealed this to KT via Genis. What's the excuse for his showing against Phyla? Or Sentry? Or Zemo?

Originally posted by Galan007
What's the excuse for his showing against Phyla? Or Sentry? Or Zemo? Holding back.

mindset is owning. as usual. when you fools gonna realize, you call out the devil, he brings hell with him.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Genis wasn't trying to hurt KT.

Genis one-shot killed Drang.

As you know, if Drang and Sturm would've battled KT and all Asgard,
then all of Asgard including Earth, KT, and the two giants die as cosmic
awareness revealed this to KT via Genis. However considering that the actual battle never happened between KT and the giants we don't know and this noob version of King Thor easily ripped through Genis sheilds

^^ Actually it was definitely going to happen,
and KT admitted the Odin power made him realize it was true.

That aside, that was KT's initial attack against Genis,
then Genis blasted KT back and that was it.

Again though,
Genis just wanted to be acknowledged as a 'true God' by the Asgardians
only because of a priest on Earth was complaining to Genis
about Asgardians blaspheming wanting worship.

Genis was toying around, he never intended to hurt KT,
just kick some ass in Asgard.

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Anyway, easiest way to win for Genis is to kill Odin as a baby.
Which Genis can perform during battle without ever leaving the field
as proven on panel before.

That ... or outright obliteration. Or ... re-create Odin as whatever.
... heck, Genis already did when he re-created Everything withIN the universe.

Originally posted by leonidas
mindset is owning. as usual. when you fools gonna realize, you call out the devil, he brings hell with him. Have I ever told you how smart you are?

Originally posted by Galan007

What's the excuse for his showing against Phyla? Or Sentry? Or Zemo?
During the Phyla encounter Genis' CA was becoming a hinderance instead of an asset.
He didn't know what was real and not, including Phyla.
He was confused and out of focus and Phyla was given a 'plot device' against Genis,
she can absorb his energy emissions, an ability Genis gave her
when he re-created all reality.

But, just prior to that 4 issue arc within the run,
Genis was folding the Past-Present & Future "All Over"
via time-rips with total control for "fun"
just to see how everyone would react to their different counter-parts,
including himself.

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15850500_Gen14.jpg

"Not just here on the Moon. All over, people's Past & Present & Futures are colliding,
thanks to me."

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Genis then fixed it all with a single shot from his gun.





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Sentry ... it was literally stated if I'm not mistaken Photon was holding back.
And Photon did win in the end.

Zemo was plot induced.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Sentry ... it was literally stated if I'm not mistaken Photon was holding back.
And Photon did win in the end. They were both holding back

How so?

Originally posted by Mr Master
During the Phyla encounter Genis' CA was becoming a hinderance instead of an asset.
He didn't know what was real and not, including Phyla.
He was confused and out of focus and Phyla was given a 'plot device' against Genis,
she can absorb his energy emissions, an ability Genis gave her
when he re-created all reality. As far as I can tell, Phyla didn't absorb any of Genis' blasts... And Genis' demeanor was such that he was bloodlusted and wanted to kill Phyla(4th scan.)

That being said, Phyla did extremely well against him:










Phyla also forcibly pulled Genis through one of his own temporal rifts:



Originally posted by Mr Master
Sentry ... it was literally stated if I'm not mistaken Photon was holding back. And Photon did win in the end. They were both holding back:


Shortly thereafter, Sentry literally said: "That's it... No more holding back.":


Photon only 'won' that battle by BFR'ing Sentry to the Microverse.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Zemo was plot induced. If by 'plot-induced', you mean that Zemo had acquired the Moonstones, and used them to effortlessly perma-defeat Genis via temporal manipulation, then you are correct.

Originally posted by Galan007

As far as I can tell, Phyla didn't absorb any of Genis' blasts... And Genis' demeanor was such that he was bloodlusted and wanted to kill Phyla(4th scan.)
He never wanted to really kill her, or hurt her. This was revealed later.

But that aside, Phyla was able to absorb Genis' blasts in 616:

(scan is of them in that other Universe where Genis is powerless)



Originally posted by Galan007

That being said, Phyla did extremely well against him:

Phyla also forcibly pulled Genis through one of his own temporal rifts:
Whatever happened between Phyla and Genis was subconsciously manipulated by Genis.



As you can see,
the rift coincidentally led to a realm where Genis became powerless,
a place where Genis can finally end his games,
and give the mantle of "Captain Marvel" pride.

I wouldn't be surprised if Genis created this universe with that specific intent.

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This arc is the end of Genis' insanity. (he was actually never truly insane we learn)
He manipulated circumstances to first, stay in check via Rick, (brain fry ability)
and second, to end the seeming insanity and become a hero again,
in this realm where he can be handled by the Titans, and forced to face the truth:



Then, immediately back in 616, he's no longer "insane" (actually he matures)



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Anyway,
Genis literally re-created Everything withIN Reality, (re-arranging Timelines and all)
including himself,
and it wasn't a perfect job:

(these scans also verify that Genis actually re-introduced UniverseS to the Multiverse,
like a Timeline that had never happened)



(reconfiguring Timelines)

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856155_Gen21.jpg

This is what made him go bananas at the end of the Entropy affair
when he tried to physically change history and it back fired on em then his CA took em over the hill.

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But regardless, even Phyla knew who made her and the Universe around her:



That would be Genis!

Originally posted by Galan007

They were both holding back:

Shortly thereafter, Sentry literally said: "That's it... No more holding back.":

Photon only 'won' that battle by BFR'ing Sentry to the Microverse.
Then I guess, it doesn't matter, and this occurrence is irrelevant.
Originally posted by Galan007

If by 'plot-induced', you mean that Zemo had acquired the Moonstones, and used
them to effortlessly perma-defeat Genis via temporal manipulation, then you are
correct.
heh ... I'll return to this one.

Originally posted by Mr Master
He never wanted to really kill her, or hurt her. This was revealed later.

But that aside, Phyla was able to absorb Genis' blasts in 616:

(scan is of them in that other Universe where Genis is powerless)



Whatever happened between Phyla and Genis was subconsciously manipulated by Genis.



As you can see,
the rift coincidentally led to a realm where Genis became powerless,
a place where Genis can finally end his games,
and give the mantle of "Captain Marvel" pride.

I wouldn't be surprised if Genis created this universe with that specific intent. Where was it stated in those scans that Genis didn't want to harm Phyla during their scuffle?

Because in the scans I posted, he plainly stated that he wanted to kill her:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/15856862_4.jpg


Originally posted by Mr Master
This arc is the end of Genis' insanity. (he was actually never truly insane we learn)
He manipulated circumstances to first, stay in check via Rick, (brain fry ability)
and second, to end the seeming insanity and become a hero again,
in this realm where he can be handled by the Titans, and forced to face the truth:



Then, immediately back in 616, he's no longer "insane" (actually he matures)



-----------------------------------------------------


Anyway,
Genis literally re-created Everything withIN Reality, (re-arranging Timelines and all)
including himself,
and it wasn't a perfect job:

(these scans also verify that Genis actually re-introduced UniverseS to the Multiverse,
like a Timeline that had never happened)



(reconfiguring Timelines)

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15856155_Gen21.jpg

This is what made him go bananas at the end of the Entropy affair
when he tried to physically change history and it back fired on em then his CA took em over the hill.

-----------------------------------------------------


But regardless, even Phyla knew who made her and the Universe around her:



That would be Genis! Cool. He was still slapped around by Phyla, stalemated by Sentry, and beaten by Zemo. Glad we're on the same page.

Originally posted by Mr Master
heh ... I'll return to this one. I'll save you the time/effort of cropping a bunch of scans, and just post the entire battle:
















Zemo was 'plot-induced' as all things are in comics. However, the fact still remains that he perma-beat Photon via temporal manipulation. For all this universal/multiversal BS that gets brought up on Genis' behalf, he was ultimately undone(literally) by a trans-level being... Like it or not.

Pis.

Reported.

Originally posted by Galan007 undone(literally) by a trans-level being... Like it or not. I really don't know how he ended up in High-Herald to be honest the dude has no bad feats.

I'm a Sentry fanboy, but in no instance did I think he stood a chance against Genis. Good feat by Sentry, sure, but when he said he wasnt going to hold back anymore, I took that as Genis leaving knowing the damage the battle would have caused. Genis wasnt worried about the outcome. He was in no doubt that he would have won.

Originally posted by tkitna
I'm a Sentry fanboy, but in no instance did I think he stood a chance against Genis. Good feat by Sentry, sure, but when he said he wasnt going to hold back anymore, I took that as Genis leaving knowing the damage the battle would have caused. Genis wasnt worried about the outcome. He was in no doubt that he would have won.

Anyways Odin wins, not really a fight. We already saw King Thor easily penetrate his shields which are his primary source for defense and without them while tough, Odin can easily take him out. Atlas beat him to death when Zemo had Purple Man block Genis' Cosmic Awareness IIRC. Genis has some nice (Yet weird/vague) feats, but he has no business stepping up to Odin. Wouldn't surprise me if even Thanos could beat him up in a straight fight tbh.

Thanos would beat Odin.

So would Wolverine.

Originally posted by tkitna
I'm a Sentry fanboy, but in no instance did I think he stood a
chance against Genis. Good feat by Sentry, sure, but when he said he
wasnt going to hold back anymore, I took that as Genis leaving
knowing the damage the battle would have caused. Genis wasnt
worried about the outcome. He was in no doubt that he would have won.
... and What is Sentry ... "not holding back" anyway?

Stalemating WWH?

Or defeating a mentally unstable self imposed limitations Owen
who subconsciously wants to lose?

If Photon has the power Insane Genis had at his peak,
then that's the power to implode infinity & re-arrange infinity.

Originally posted by Galan007

Where was it stated in those scans that Genis didn't want to
harm Phyla during their scuffle?

Because in the scans I posted, he plainly stated that he wanted to kill her:

Cool. He was still slapped around by Phyla, stalemated by Sentry,
Ok, so I just discovered something very interesting.
It completely dispels the Phyla encounter imo.

Thanx for making me do my homework, it made me remember lost facts.

Genis re-created everything anew, including Himself.
Genis was outside Reality, in the Void, when he did this.
Evidently, Genis -re-created a version of Himself withIN Reality
a version that lived a life as Captain Marvel.
Until Genis stepped back into This New Reality he had created. (the Eternity that was Entropy)
Genis Replaced what he created as Himself when he entered 616.

This is why he went bananas at the end of the Entropy issue:





Notice the change in uniform.

I thought it was just CA, but the CA just accelerated what was gonna happen,
because as we can read, his re-entry into 616 replacing his creation was distorting TimelineS.

Therefore, Genis wasn't "whole" for several issues.
He was living as someone else but thinking he was he and not knowing it.

Anyway my friend, it's all here:

















At the end of the "Crazy like a Fox" 4 issue mini, Genis apparently is "whole" again:

(note the uniform looks like it was at the end of the Entropy issue only silver from red)

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15857940_Genis9.jpg

It was noted, by his mother Elysius
that everything he experienced in that Kree outfit, and Rick Jones being a "rock star"
"technically never happened"

Read yall, and you'll see this is truth.

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Case and point: Genis was definitely NOT at the same power-level
as he was during the Entropy affair in the midst of issues #7-18.
Genis was at the power-level of the Captain Marvel he created and replaced.



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The Sentry encounter is in-admissible because they were "holding back" ...
since we don't know and never will know how much, it's meaningless.
Originally posted by Galan007

Zemo was 'plot-induced' as all things are in comics. However, the
fact still remains that he perma-beat Photon via temporal
manipulation. For all this universal/multiversal BS that gets brought
up on Genis' behalf, he was ultimately undone(literally) by a trans-
level being... Like it or not.
Thanx, but I'm going to post the "plot" exposed later in follow up issues,
just like in the Phyla case.

Anyway as for Zemo, Genis wanted this basically.
Especially after he saw himself doing this via Songbird's vision of the actual Future:

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15858182_Photon_kills_ET1.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15858183_Photon_kills_ET2.jpg

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Genis kills Odin either as a baby or before he's born,
like he did his own son from the Future,
who was actually more powerful than Genis:

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15858374_Gen7.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15858375_Gen8.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15858376_Gen9.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15858377_Gen10.jpg

Genis performed this feat in battle via a decision.

He only had to decide he would kill his son in the Past, and it happened without Genis ever leaving the field of battle.

As you can, he later actually does it, and kills the baby easily.

"You will do great evil, you will be too powerful, blah, blah" ... die!

Originally posted by Mr Master
Ok, so I just discovered something very interesting.
It completely dispels the Phyla encounter imo.

Thanx for making me do my homework, it made me remember lost facts.

Genis re-created everything anew, including Himself.
Genis was outside Reality, in the Void, when he did this.
Evidently, Genis -re-created a version of Himself withIN Reality
a version that lived a life as Captain Marvel.
Until Genis stepped back into This New Reality he had created. (the Eternity that was Entropy)
Genis Replaced what he created as Himself when he entered 616.

This is why he went bananas at the end of the Entropy issue:





Notice the change in uniform.

I thought it was just CA, but the CA just accelerated what was gonna happen,
because as we can read, his re-entry into 616 replacing his creation was distorting TimelineS.

Therefore, Genis wasn't "whole" for several issues.
He was living as someone else but thinking he was he and not knowing it.

Anyway my friend, it's all here:

















At the end of the "Crazy like a Fox" 4 issue mini, Genis apparently is "whole" again:

(note the uniform looks like it was at the end of the Entropy issue only silver from red)

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15857940_Genis9.jpg

It was noted, by his mother Elysius
that everything he experienced in that Kree outfit, and Rick Jones being a "rock star"
"technically never happened"

Read yall, and you'll see this is truth.

--------------------------------------------------------------------


Case and point: Genis was definitely NOT at the same power-level
as he was during the Entropy affair in the midst of issues #7-18.
Genis was at the power-level of the Captain Marvel he created and replaced.

Where in those scans is it stated that Genis was 'depowered' when he encountered Phyla? :/

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanx, but I'm going to post the "plot" exposed later in follow up issues,
just like in the Phyla case.

Anyway as for Zemo, Genis wanted this basically.
Especially after he saw himself doing this via Songbird's vision of the actual Future:

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15858182_Photon_kills_ET1.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15858183_Photon_kills_ET2.jpg Where in those scans is it stated that Genis wanted Zemo to kill him? :/

Galan, just stop trolling.

I'm beginning to lose my cool.

Phuck you, fanboy!

Reported, you ******.

I just reported you twice, and I sent Raz a PM about your insubordination.

Also reported for having a censored word in your sig, you piece of shit

Mindset, post your address so I can come beat the shit out of you irl.

ill reck u m8

i swear on me mum's life

Originally posted by Mr Master
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Genis kills Odin either as a baby or before he's born,
like he did his own son from the Future,
who was actually more powerful than Genis:

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15858374_Gen7.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15858375_Gen8.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15858376_Gen9.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15858377_Gen10.jpg

Genis performed this feat in battle via a decision.

He only had to decide he would kill his son in the Past, and it happened without Genis ever leaving the field of battle.

As you can, he later actually does it, and kills the baby easily.

"You will do great evil, you will be too powerful, blah, blah" ... die!

Thankfully Odin has excellent time manipulating abilities himself. Fyi, time traveling to Asgard in the distant past is a self-bfr, so Odin wins anyways.

Also, where in those scans does he time-travel and kill his son? He literally decides to kill his boy in the crib in the future so his son never existed. That's all well and good but he doesn't have that relationship with Odin and would have to physically time travel way into the past (Far before he himself was born), hope Odin is unguarded or will not follow/stop him to accomplish the feat.

Are scans missing or are you just hoping we don't actually read them?