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Data from Star Trek TNG vs Khan from Star Trek into Darkness.

Setting is the steel mill from Terminator 2: Judgement Day. Nobody else is present. Data's emotion chip is off.

1) Hand to Hand on the railing over the pit of molten steel.

2) Melee fight with Klingon Bat'leths at the entrance to the mill where the tanker of liquid nitrogen crashed.

3) Seek and destroy, armed with phasers set to kill. Both start at opposite ends of the steel mill.

To the death, anything goes.

Data.

More intelligent and physically superior. The other guy is just a superior martial artist. Not that it matters here.

lol.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Data.

More intelligent and physically superior. The other guy is just a superior martial artist. Not that it matters here.

give him his due, he did withstand kirk's punches and take out a platoon of klingons....although data could have done that unarmed


also dont forget to vote, people. quanchi needs a generous serving of crow.

Can't comment as I never watched the Star Trek series outside a few eps over the years.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Can't comment as I never watched the Star Trek series outside a few eps over the years.

that has not stopped you from being an expert on data's apparent shortcomings.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
that has not stopped you from being an expert on data's apparent shortcomings. Seen the films not the series. I don't comment if I don't know or am not vaguely familiar.

So we just ignore all of his canon feats just because they don't appear in a movie? Even though the character is played by the same actor on the same live-action medium.

These rules have to change.

I edited the OP.

This is now Data from all of TNG films and not the television series.

I have to be fair to my own rule about television films only in the MVF.

Were I to allow TNG series, this would have to go in the All Versus Forum.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
These rules have to change.

How would you change them? I'm open to ideas.

Data one-shots him, then goes to have tea with Picard.

i think in cases where the film is based on the series and all series canon is adhered to, it should be permissible. then again if you have to keep it a strict rule to act as a levy against a deluge of horseshit in other topics, its understandable.

Originally posted by Impediment
How would you change them? I'm open to ideas. Allow TV characters. Not that big of a deal. There's no logical reason why we should have to rely solely on 24: Redemption for Bauer feats or ignore all the Trek feats that don't appear in movies.

Movie only Data still wins

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Allow TV characters. Not that big of a deal. There's no logical reason why we should have to rely solely on 24: Redemption for Bauer feats or ignore all the Trek feats that don't appear in movies.

You don't think that would be better suited for the All Versus Forum?

Or are you referring to characters that have roles in both film and tv only?

I don't see how it's that big of a deal. I understand the purposes of the All Versus Forum so that debate can be held comparing characters across comic books, video games, or movies/television. But there isn't a sensible reason why we can't use TV characters here.

I mean what are your arguments against it? Pollution? This forum doesn't get that much traffic. It's not like they're hard to compare. They're animated shows and movies. Live action shows and movies.

Even if it were limited to characters with movie and tv appearances that'd be cool. Personally, I don't see why TV can't be added.

Well, I haven't any arguments, actually.

I just want opinions, is all.

The problem is that Star Trek is primarily TV based, and it's equally canon to the movies as the movies are to the tv shows. Sure, you could say "let's only use Data's feats from the movies", but the Data in First Contact is the same Data from the show. Hell, he even mentions that he boned Tasha Yar to the Borg Queen.

I get that Star Trek would have an unfair advantage due to the number of appearances, but at the same time a lot of the best Star Trek feats are from the shows. Either way, it's unfair to someone.

I'm starting to understand.

Really, I guess it wouldn't hurt.

Data wins but barely

Originally posted by playa1258
Data one-shots him, then goes to have tea with Picard. Once this is on blu ray I'd battlezone this.

Originally posted by Robtard
Movie only Data still wins

Data is too fast.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Data is too fast. Based on ?

Originally posted by the ninjak
Data is too fast.

Very true.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Very true. Based on ?

The movies, you should really watch them before trying to debate.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The movies, you should really watch them before trying to debate. I have but you really should so you will be able to answer a single question.

Says the guy that keeps dodging pr's questions.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Says the guy that keeps dodging pr's questions. I answered his questions. Read the posts. Will you battlezone this topic when the Into Darkness dvd is released ?

Data performed advanced actions that made his hands move at super speed.

Data could stand still and let Khan beat on him and the worst he'll maybe sustain is some superficial damage to his synthetic skin.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Data performed advanced actions that made his hands move at super speed. Hand movements yes but he doesn't fight in that speed.

Originally posted by Robtard
Data could stand still and let Khan beat on him and the worst he'll maybe sustain is some superficial damage to his synthetic skin. So you don't think Khan will use his environment and just keep punching him ? You really don't know anything about Khan if you feel he's some neanderthal.

True and Khan doesn't have access to Data's only weakness.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hand movements yes but he doesn't fight in that speed.

He never needed to.

Originally posted by the ninjak
True and Khan doesn't have access to Data's only weakness.



He never needed to. Yes, he has. But if you have no examples then you just have one feat outside of combat.

Data can be destroyed and Khan will destroy him. I will gladly battlezone this after Into Darkness is released on dvd

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you don't think Khan will use his environment and just keep punching him ? You really don't know anything about Khan if you feel he's some neanderthal.

And you think Data is going to stand still and allow Khan to run off and get some makeshift weapon? You don't know anything about Star Trek in general as you repeatedly show, bandwagon-boy.

PS Stop scripting

Originally posted by Robtard
And you think Data is going to stand still and allow Khan to run off and get some makeshift weapon? You don't know anything about Star Trek in general as you repeatedly show, bandwagon-boy.

PS Stop scripting He will use the environment and bash him with something he can get his hands on. You just think he will just keep punching him with this bewildered look on his face.

I am not. Arguing in character. In one thread you say he's intelligent whereas in another he's just some dummie throwing wild haymakers.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he has. But if you have no examples then you just have one feat outside of combat.

Data can be destroyed and Khan will destroy him. I will gladly battlezone this after Into Darkness is released on dvd

Khan doesn't have access to knowledge of Data's kill switch.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Khan doesn't have access to knowledge of Data's kill switch. That isn't the only way to defeat him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He will use the environment and bash him with something he can get his hands on. You just think he will just keep punching him with this bewildered look on his face.

I am not. Arguing in character. In one thread you say he's intelligent whereas in another he's just some dummie throwing wild haymakers.

So more scripting: "Data's (cos he's an idiot now apparently) going to allow Khan to get his hands on something and then Khan will win via something". You're pathetically bad at this

Strawman tactic. What I said was to illustrate Data's durability and Khan's inability to win in a H2H fight, which is what is listed in the OP, which you failed to comprehend cos you're a dummy Read the OP.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't the only way to defeat him.

How does he defeat Data with his bare hands?

Originally posted by the ninjak
How does he defeat Data with his bare hands? Using environment and his intellect to destroy Data.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Using environment and his intellect to destroy Data.

What does he use in the environment to gain the upper hand?

Originally posted by the ninjak
What does he use in the environment to gain the upper hand?

He uses "something".

Quanchi's words, not mine.

Originally posted by the ninjak
What does he use in the environment to gain the upper hand? Railing or what not. Bashed data into something with superior speed and combt skills.

Originally posted by Robtard
He uses "something".

Quanchi's words, not mine. Superior intellect but not here--Robtard.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superior intellect but not here--Robtard.

Covered already, bandwagon-boy :

Originally posted by Robtard
And Data would just allow Khan to take his time to pry out some railing cos he's an idiot or allow Khan to drop him and bash his head on the floor

Originally posted by Robtard
Covered already, bandwagon-boy :

Let's not forget that the much stronger, faster and smarter Data won't think to use the environment first.

People are saying Khan has a chance here? LOL

Originally posted by quanchi112
Using environment and his intellect to destroy Data.

Using what in the environment? A tank? And I'm pretty sure Data rapes him in the intellect department.

Originally posted by Lestov16
People are saying Khan has a chance here? LOL

No, quan is saying that Khan wins....but seeing as he has admitted that he only posts on this board because Imp allows him to bait/troll, none of us really take him seriously.

This is just a way to kill time.

ah quanchi finally voted clown

Originally posted by Impediment
How would you change them? I'm open to ideas.

Well when we know Data from the film is the exact same Data from the series, then I really think series feats should be included. As those events are in Movie Data's past and continuity. They even reference the series in the films.

Anyway even in the films Data handled multiple Borg with complete ease. Whilst Harrison struggled to defeat Spock. So Data's easily Harrison's physical superior at least.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Using environment and his intellect to destroy Data.


Yeah because Data isn't smart.

Originally posted by Robtard
Covered already, bandwagon-boy : Data isn't a better warrior or tactician in battle than Khan is. Better feats to boot.

Originally posted by Lestov16
People are saying Khan has a chance here? LOL



Using what in the environment? A tank? And I'm pretty sure Data rapes him in the intellect department. Ground, railing, etc. Khan is a brutal warrior who knows how to defeat his opponent with whatever he had available to himself.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, quan is saying that Khan wins....but seeing as he has admitted that he only posts on this board because Imp allows him to bait/troll, none of us really take him seriously.

This is just a way to kill time. Prove it.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Well when we know Data from the film is the exact same Data from the series, then I really think series feats should be included. As those events are in Movie Data's past and continuity. They even reference the series in the films.

Anyway even in the films Data handled multiple Borg with complete ease. Whilst Harrison struggled to defeat Spock. So Data's easily Harrison's physical superior at least.




Yeah because Data isn't smart. Data isn't brutal just like a warrior can be. He even makes a point of Spock whose intelligence is very high not warrior type high though.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
ah quanchi finally voted clown I bet you would have been one of those dopes screaming the world is flat back in the day too.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Imp allows him to bait/troll

I don't "allow" Quan to do anything except speak his mind like the grown adult he is, just like I do everyone else in my forums. By all means, give people a taste of their own medicine if you think it will solve anything.

I'm not here to hold anyone's hand or put baby powder on asses.

Debate however you wish, just keep it civil and without blatant venom.

We're all adults here and we should be allowed to talk how we wish.

I just want everyone to have fun and feel comfortable.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Data isn't a better warrior or tactician in battle than Khan is. Better feats to boot.

Well look, a non sequitur response used to avoid the point that crushed you. Not surprised. Anyhow.

That's not going to help him in a H2H fight when Data's twisting his head off and he can't do much to harm Data

Originally posted by Impediment

I'm not here to hold anyone's hand or put baby powder on asses.

is that non-negotiable?

Originally posted by Robtard
Well look, a non sequitur response used to avoid the point that crushed you. Not surprised. Anyhow.

That's not going to help him in a H2H fight when Data's twisting his head off and he can't do much to harm Data So do you think Data is a better warrior and better adapted for combat than Khan ? No, it doesn't but I bet you won't answer.

Khan isn't going to allow that to happen. Want to battlezone it ?

data wins. bandwagon fails.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
data wins. bandwagon fails. Prove it. Posting clown pics isn't debating, Bettie.

are you upset because nobody bought your horseshit?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
are you upset because nobody bought your horseshit? Originally posted by Supra
Guys if we are basing this debate of screen feats alone, which we are Khan has greater feats, I didn't want to agree at first but he has much more feats then Anakin. If he was facing Darth Maul or Darth Vadar with suit it would be a different story. His huge weapon on whatever you call it was blowing up starships. A light saber would not deflect those shots. Could a more experienced Jedi take him down. Like Palpatine or Yodi, most def. but Anakin was not that experienced. Are you ever right ?

Others have as well but I don't expect brick walls such as yourself capable of thought.

wow thanks for the irrelevant quote from a different topic, patches. you gonna juggle now?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
wow thanks for the irrelevant quote from a different topic, patches. you gonna juggle now? You said no one agrees with me in general. You're clearly wrong. As per the norm.

that was anakin screen feats, not data. you cant possible be this stupid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So do you think Data is a better warrior and better adapted for combat than Khan ? No, it doesn't but I bet you won't answer.

Khan isn't going to allow that to happen. Want to battlezone it ?

In a H2H fight, Data is definitely "better adapted", being far more durable and stronger than Khan, since he's an android

But Data is going to allow Khan to **** off, go get "something" (your words) to bring back and "bash" him with?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
that was anakin screen feats, not data. you cant possible be this stupid.

Yes, he can.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
that was anakin screen feats, not data. you cant possible be this stupid. You said in general and I responded in kind. Data isn't the warrior that Khan is. The reboot film makes it clear there's a different in raw intellect and combat intellect.

Originally posted by Robtard
In a H2H fight, Data is definitely "better adapted", being far more durable and stronger than Khan, since he's an android

But Data is going to allow Khan to **** off, go get "something" (your words) to bring back and "bash" him with? No, he isn't. There's a reason Khan was awakened for his combat savagery. The guy is a game changer. Data doesn't have the combat intellect Khan does. Khan also has superior feats.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, he can. This is rich coming from the banned herochat refugee.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said in general and I responded in kind. Data isn't the warrior that Khan is. The reboot film makes it clear there's a different in raw intellect and combat intellect.

explain the difference between "raw instinct" and "combat instinct" that you just made up because you're full of shit. also, cry more.

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u561/focus4chumps/crybaby-12_zps40752fd8.jpg

Originally posted by focus4chumps
explain the difference between "raw instinct" and "combat instinct" that you just made up because you're full of shit. also, cry more.

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u561/focus4chumps/crybaby-12_zps40752fd8.jpg Watch the film. There's a difference with savagery and intellect. Did you not see the film ? I guess in your mind Data is this badass warrior. Lol.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
explain the difference between "raw instinct" and "combat instinct" that you just made up because you're full of shit.


oh thats right you cant, because you made it up and are full of shit.

get madder.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
oh thats right you cant, because you made it up and are full of shit.

get madder. Just like I thought. You always back down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he isn't. There's a reason Khan was awakened for his combat savagery. The guy is a game changer. Data doesn't have the combat intellect Khan does. Khan also has superior feats.

So more "no, no, no" responses and non sequitur nonsense. We're talking a H2H fight, which Data is stronger and far more durable, being an android.

Now rant again how Khan's just going to "grab something" to win while Data sits idly by, that was precious last time.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
explain the difference between "raw instinct" and "combat instinct" that you just made up because you're full of shit. also, cry more.

still waiting for you to clarify this clown

now give us a triple backflip with a twist.

Originally posted by Robtard
So more "no, no, no" responses and non sequitur nonsense. We're talking a H2H fight, which Data is stronger and far more durable, being an android.

Now rant again how Khan's just going to "grab something" to win while Data sits idly by, that was precious last time. Khan is faster and smart enough to not keep hitting an android in the face.

Khans faster than Data. Nothing Data can do about it tbh.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
still waiting for you to clarify this clown

now give us a triple backflip with a twist. I responded to this already. Cry more.

Originally posted by quanchi112
savagery and intellect

right you suggested that "raw instinct" is "intellect" and "combat instinct" is "savagry"


which also happens to make no sense at all

cry more coco. do a handstand.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
right you suggested that "raw instinct" is "intellect" and "combat instinct" is "savagry"


which also happens to make no sense at all

cry more coco. do a handstand. So you think someone with no training and raw instinct is superior in a fight with someone who has combat experience or combat instinct due to extensive training. Lol.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Khan is faster and smart enough to not keep hitting an android in the face.

Khans faster than Data. Nothing Data can do about it tbh.

Fight will be over in a matter of seconds. Khan hits Data; Data's fine. Data hits can, Khan is ****ed. Android and all.

They're fighting on some railing, there's no where to run for Khan. Those be the facts, bandwagon-boy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He will use the environment and bash him with something he can get his hands on.

He'll "just do something" tactics. Terrible debating

thats right clown. distract from my valid request that you explain yourself. how is "raw instinct" the same as "intellect"?


make some balloon animals for the kids.

Originally posted by Robtard
Fight will be over in a matter of seconds. Khan hits Data; Data's fine. Data hits can, Khan is ****ed. Android and all.

They're fighting on some railing, there's no where to run for Khan. Those be the facts, bandwagon-boy.



He'll "just do something" tactics. Terrible debating Prove he can one shot Khan. It's utterly preposterous but then again it's an old Trekkie upset the reboot is far superior in terms of feats and combat with two movies in. Dodging and moving around. If you think they're are stuck in a three Foot surface you're wrong, Trekkie.

Use the environment to damage Data. Your he just keeps hitting Data and gets ones shotted is ridiculous.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
thats right clown. distract from my valid request that you explain yourself. how is "raw instinct" the same as "intellect"?


make some balloon animals for the kids. Raw instinct and intellect combined means you will fight off of natural instinct and logic which you will be screwed against a trained warrior in combat. Combat instinct>>raw instinct.


Please relax.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Raw instinct and intellect combined means you will fight off of natural instinct and logic which you will be screwed against a trained warrior in combat. Combat instinct>>raw instinct.


Please relax.


hmmm. interesting...that actually made no ****ing sense at all.


right quanchi. logic is the enemy of intellect.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove he can one shot Khan. It's utterly preposterous but then again it's an old Trekkie upset the reboot is far superior in terms of feats and combat with two movies in. Dodging and moving around.

If you think they're are stuck in a three Foot surface you're wrong, Trekkie.

Use the environment to damage Data. Your he just keeps hitting Data and gets ones shotted is ridiculous.

I don't have to prove your strawman argument

They're fighting on railing, did you not read the OP conditions again?

More blind "Khan will use something" claims which is just poor debating. That strawman again

Originally posted by focus4chumps
hmmm. interesting...that actually made no ****ing sense at all.


right quanchi. logic is the enemy of intellect. It made sense. I answered your question and put you in your place, dolly.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't have to prove your strawman argument

They're fighting on railing, did you not read the OP conditions again?

More blind "Khan will use something" claims which is just poor debating. That strawman again You said he'd oneshot him so prove it.

Yes.

You claim Khan will repeatedly punch Data like he's some stupid caveman or something. Prove it.

Data has held a car trying to drive off with 1 hand while speaking on his communicater and fixing something at the same time. He's lifed solid iron anvils with 1 hand like they were nothing. They are used in world's strongest man competitions. He's lifted boulders and threw them away like they were made of polystyrene. He's opened jammed doors and airlocks that a Klingon with twice the strength of most humans couldn't. even budge with help from someone else. His body's tensile strength is double that of diamond which itself is over 1000x that of human skin. His hand speed is phenomenal when he is seen using computer panels on the enterprise. Hundreds of x that of humans. Did I mention he's bulletproof? Got shot from a submachine and took zero damage. He doesn't tire. He doesn't require air, food or water. He's snapped limbs off Borg drones. He's taken headbutts from Klingon warriors who have almost knocked themselves unconscious in the attempt.

Do I really need to go on?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said he'd oneshot him so prove it.

Yes.

You claim Khan will repeatedly punch Data like he's some stupid caveman or something. Prove it.

Still strawmanning I see. I did not make that claim. I implied that just one hit from Data would be severe, since he's as super strong android. Try and grasp the obvious. Try.

Then you know they're on railing and Khan isn't going to flee to run off and "get something" as you try and script.

Another strawman. I said Khan could punch Data all day and it wouldn't matter too much to Data, it was in regards to Data's durability in this H2H fight. You're really dense and fail to see the obvious. eg "Khan doesn't need to breath!".

Originally posted by jaden101
Data has held a car trying to drive off with 1 hand while speaking on his communicater and fixing something at the same time. He's lifed solid iron anvils with 1 hand like they were nothing. They are used in world's strongest man competitions. He's lifted boulders and threw them away like they were made of polystyrene. He's opened jammed doors and airlocks that a Klingon with twice the strength of most humans couldn't. even budge with help from someone else. His body's tensile strength is double that of diamond which itself is over 1000x that of human skin. His hand speed is phenomenal when he is seen using computer panels on the enterprise. Hundreds of x that of humans. Did I mention he's bulletproof? Got shot from a submachine and took zero damage. He doesn't tire. He doesn't require air, food or water. He's snapped limbs off Borg drones. He's taken headbutts from Klingon warriors who have almost knocked themselves unconscious in the attempt.

Do I really need to go on? Ranting. Khan has superior battle feats. Combat savvy. He wins.

Originally posted by Robtard
Still strawmanning I see. I did not make that claim. I implied that just one hit from Data would be severe, since he's as super strong android. Try and grasp the obvious. Try.

Then you know they're on railing and Khan isn't going to flee to run off and "get something" as you try and script.

Another strawman. I said Khan could punch Data all day and it wouldn't matter too much to Data, it was in regards to Data's durability in this H2H fight. You're really dense and fail to see the obvious. eg "Khan doesn't need to breath!". Prove he can hit him and oneshot him. Your claim, boy.

Dodge, use superior combat speed, etc. to destroy Data.


He won't punch him all day due to his superior intellect. Quit saying silly things.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove he can hit him and oneshot him. Your claim, boy.

Dodge, use superior combat speed, etc. to destroy Data.

He won't punch him all day due to his superior intellect. Quit saying silly things.

I don't have to prove your strawman argument, #1 bandwagoner.

Stop scripting especially when your scripting amounts to empty "he'll just do something to win" nonsense. You've been using these same fail "something" (your comment; not mine) since page 2, starting to sound like a parrot. "Something" "Something" *squawk* "Something".

And another strawman cos your reading comprehension is shit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ranting. Khan has superior battle feats. Combat savvy. He wins.

No counters? Thought not.

Direct toe-to-toe, John Khan stands no chance. But he's a smarter fighter, certainly more ruthless. He could conceivably find a way to use his surroundings to take Data out...not unlike how Spider-Man uses his surroundings to take out physically more powerful opponents (eg, Hulk), or even how Shatner Koik took out MontalKhan with that doohicky he whipped out of the engineering station.

Data ftw 2/3.

RIP Khan

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't have to prove your strawman argument, #1 bandwagoner.

Stop scripting especially when your scripting amounts to empty "he'll just do something to win" nonsense. You've been using these same fail "something" (your comment; not mine) since page 2, starting to sound like a parrot. "Something" "Something" *squawk* "Something".

And another strawman cos your reading comprehension is shit. Uses superior combat speed and environment to win. Cry more.

Originally posted by jaden101
No counters? Thought not. I countered your fanboyism,

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
RIP Khan Prove it.

Biggest bandwagoner ftw.

Originally posted by Mindship
But he's a smarter fighter, certainly more ruthless. He could conceivably find a way to use his surroundings to take Data out...not unlike how Spider-Man uses his surroundings to take out physically more powerful opponents (eg, Hulk), or even how Shatner Koik took out MontalKhan with that doohicky he whipped out of the engineering station.

Robbie wants to pretend Khan just keeps punching him and turns into a retard resembling Robtard intelligence here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Uses superior combat speed and environment to win. Cry more.

Yes. Data DOES.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Biggest bandwagoner ftw. Quit hating.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yes. Data DOES. Nowhere near comparable to Khan in terms of ruthlessness. Not even close.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It made sense. I answered your question and put you in your place, dolly.

it made no sense at all. maybe you should form a valid point on a topic before deciding that you are correct about said point. this way you might not end up humiliating yourself yet again.

now make a balloon elephant *honk honk*

Originally posted by focus4chumps
it made no sense at all. maybe you should form a valid point on a topic before deciding that you are correct about said point. this way you might not end up humiliating yourself yet again.

now make a balloon elephant *honk honk* I explained it. Actually tell me what's wrong with my reasoning other than your usual you're a clown responses.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Raw instinct and intellect combined means you will fight off of natural instinct and logic which you will be screwed against a trained warrior in combat. Combat instinct>>raw instinct.

you suggested again (in this latest incarnation of clownshit) that logic is the enemy of intellect. this makes no sense. cry.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
you suggested again (in this latest incarnation of clownshit) that logic is the enemy of intellect. this makes no sense. cry. I said combat instinct is far superior to raw instinct in battle. True. Cry.

no need to recap all your nonsensical drivel.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
no need to recap all your nonsensical drivel. Another concession.

so many concessions from everyone but there you are in a corner alone, incorrect, and weeping. silly clown.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
so many concessions from everyone but there you are in a corner alone, incorrect, and weeping. silly clown. I always win. You aren't used to winning and don't know what it feels like.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Uses superior combat speed and environment to win. Cry more.

More empty "he just finds a way to win with something" claims. Terrible debating, bandwagon-boy.

Originally posted by Robtard
More empty "he just finds a way to win with something" claims. Terrible debating, bandwagon-boy. Originally posted by Mindship
But he's a smarter fighter, certainly more ruthless. He could conceivably find a way to use his surroundings to take Data out...not unlike how Spider-Man uses his surroundings to take out physically more powerful opponents (eg, Hulk), or even how Shatner Koik took out MontalKhan with that doohicky he whipped out of the engineering station.

Another poster agreeing with me. Does it drive you crazy I'm better than you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Another poster agreeing with me. Does it drive you crazy I'm better than you.

Trying to play the number's game, there's at least 6 other people in here who said Data wins this and your poll is 9 to 1 in favor of Data. (time to make those socks again and vote)

Cry more now, bandwagon-boy

Originally posted by Robtard
Trying to play the number's game, there's at least 6 other people in here who said Data wins this and your poll is 9 to 1 in favor of Data. (time to make those socks again and vote)

Cry more now, bandwagon-boy You said my reasoning sucked and another person disagrees. Older outdated Trekkies disagree with me. Not one of you will battlezone anything against me. I own you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said my reasoning sucked and another person disagrees. Older outdated Trekkies disagree with me. Not one of you will battlezone anything against me. I own you.

In other words, you tried to play the numbers game and forgot there are a lot more people in here who said and voted that Data wins

Cry more now.

Originally posted by Robtard
In other words, you tried to play the numbers game and forgot there are a lot more people in here who said and voted that Data wins

Cry more now. The diff. Is I'm willing to take this to judges whereas you aren't. I'm a doer you're just a harmless talker.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The diff. Is I'm willing to take this to judges whereas you aren't. I'm a doer you're just a harmless talker.

Sine you like using numbers and others' opinions, look at the poll, no need for judges, the case is over; Data won. Cry more now

The full quote:
Originally posted by Mindship
Direct toe-to-toe, John Khan stands no chance. But he's a smarter fighter, certainly more ruthless. He could conceivably find a way to use his surroundings to take Data out...not unlike how Spider-Man uses his surroundings to take out physically more powerful opponents (eg, Hulk), or even how Shatner Koik took out MontalKhan with that doohicky he whipped out of the engineering station.

Data ftw 2/3.

Originally posted by Mindship
The full quote:

So Quanchi chopped up what you said to alter what you intended.

He's an utterly dishonest clown.

Originally posted by Robtard
So Quanchi chopped up what you said to alter what you intended.

He's an utterly dishonest clown.

Just like he lies about people conceding. it's his standard MO.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sine you like using numbers and others' opinions, look at the poll, no need for judges, the case is over; Data won. Cry more now I used my own opinion in which someone else copied my reasoning. You are all over the place. A real mess.

Originally posted by Robtard
So Quanchi chopped up what you said to alter what you intended.

He's an utterly dishonest clown. No, his reasoning was the same just the probably of the outcome was different. I didn't lie.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Just like he lies about people conceding. it's his standard MO. When did I lie about someone conceding ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I lie about someone conceding ?

http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u561/focus4chumps/stupidclown_zps2fb146fb.jpg

Originally posted by focus4chumps
http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u561/focus4chumps/stupidclown_zps2fb146fb.jpg You post this all the to,e begging for laughs and attention. Really sad tbh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I lie about someone conceding ?

Right here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then concession accepted.

Originally posted by -Pr-
What concession?

You saying I said things that I didn't say somehow gives you a victory of some sort?

Yeah, because that makes lots of sense.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Right here. he conceded and I accepted like a gentleman. Only a jerk refuses concessions.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he conceded and I accepted like a gentleman. Only a jerk refuses concessions.
/derp

Originally posted by focus4chumps
/derp How unlike you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he conceded and I accepted like a gentleman. Only a jerk refuses concessions.

You're a liar.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You're a liar. Irony.

everyone knows you're lying.

you've been such a pathetic clown lately that even your sisters are backing away and not posting their regular "u right bro" idiocy.

grow up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I lie about someone conceding ?

Right here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then concession accepted.

Originally posted by -Pr-
What concession?

You saying I said things that I didn't say somehow gives you a victory of some sort?

Yeah, because that makes lots of sense.

Kinda funny how everyone is hating on Khan now that he's Quanchi's new character.

Data still wins BTW.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Right here. Thats proof I am a gentleman. That has nothing to do with your claim.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
everyone knows you're lying.

you've been such a pathetic clown lately that even your sisters are backing away and not posting their regular "u right bro" idiocy.

grow up. You need to get it together. Stick to the thread topic. Khan wins.

Originally posted by ares834
Kinda funny how everyone is hating on Khan now that he's Quanchi's new character.

Data still wins BTW.

i dont hate khan. but its ****ing data. data who could destroy khan in .8 seconds while thinking about how much he loves his kitty.

Originally posted by ares834
Kinda funny how everyone is hating on Khan now that he's Quanchi's new character.

Data still wins BTW. I am loving it. These supposed Trekkies hating on a fictional character simply because of little old me.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
i dont hate khan. but its ****ing data. data who could destroy khan in .8 second's while thinking about how much he loves his kitty. Prove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I lie about someone conceding ?

Right here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then concession accepted.

Originally posted by -Pr-
What concession?

You saying I said things that I didn't say somehow gives you a victory of some sort?

Yeah, because that makes lots of sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove it.

what, with your special BZ rules that you have recently saw fit to impose on every thread? stupid clown.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Right here. Do you know what prove it means ?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
what, with your special BZ rules that you have recently saw fit to impose on every thread? stupid clown. I debate consistently you don't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I lie about someone conceding ?

Right here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then concession accepted.

Originally posted by -Pr-
What concession?

You saying I said things that I didn't say somehow gives you a victory of some sort?

Yeah, because that makes lots of sense.