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I mean gas went up another 10 cents just today.

Serioulsy.

Find these assholes and murder them!!!

bus pass

'nuff said

Public transportation is ass doe.

As I understand it (and I don't understand it very well) oil prices and gas prices aren't directly correlative in America because America exports lots of the gasoline it refines to other countries, meaning that gas prices are higher than they should be. A very similar phenomenon happens in Florida with oranges for eating--we produce more oranges than any state but we import whole oranges at high (or, higher than it should be) price from California since almost all of our oranges are made into orange juice.

basically, yes, only there is a lot of domestic consumption in some cases (like Canada, we only import from the states because it is easier to ship from the East Coast of America than Alberta).

The price is still set by the world market though.

Originally posted by Oliver North
The price is still set by the world market though. You mean by the New World Order and the Illuminati. It's all a scam, maaaan.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Public transportation is ass doe.

I always laugh when americans say things like this.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You mean by the New World Order and the Illuminati. It's all a scam, maaaan.

worse, OPEC

Originally posted by Bentley
I always laugh when americans say things like this.



though I suspect Blax was being facetious

Why do some people think cheap oil is a right

Originally posted by Bentley
I always laugh when americans say things like this. It's more about the fact that many cities iun the U.S don't have good public transportation. I've been to Chicago where it was fine but here in Columbus I would hate to take public transport everywhere.

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
Why do some people think cheap oil is a right

you know there is a difference between "not artificially inflated" and "cheap"?

@_@

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
Why do some people think cheap oil is a right So your a "Greed is Good" kind of guy I take it?

Originally posted by Flyattractor
So your a "Greed is Good" kind of guy I take it?

Far from it, but I do understand the laws of supply and demand.

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
Far from it, but I do understand the laws of supply and demand.

Oil speculation actually detaches oil as a commodity from the laws of supply and demand...

Originally posted by Oliver North
Oil speculation actually detaches oil as a commodity from the laws of supply and demand...

The same could basically be said about all commodities, why aren't people outraged when food prices go up?

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
The same could basically be said about all commodities, why aren't people outraged when food prices go up? They should be because one of the big reasons the food prices go us is because the OIL prices go up.

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
The same could basically be said about all commodities, why aren't people outraged when food prices go up?

who isn't?

EDIT: also, you see nothing close to the type of fluctuations in food prices as you do in oil... at least in the West. In other parts of the world food riots are common, so ya, not sure what you are talking about

Originally posted by Oliver North
who isn't?

EDIT: also, you see nothing close to the type of fluctuations in food prices as you do in oil... at least in the West. In other parts of the world food riots are common, so ya, not sure what you are talking about

Gasoline in the United States is very cheap compared to many other places in the world yet when it goes up a few cents people really ***** and complain. If, and I mean IF, we ever get a real economic recovery watch oil go through the roof.

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
Gasoline in the United States is very cheap compared to many other places in the world yet when it goes up a few cents people really ***** and complain.

and good on you for standing up to those whiners who are legitimately sometimes spending and additional $20 - $50 dollars a week on a commodity that is almost certainly essential to their lifestyle.

preach on you freedom fighter, defender of man!

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
If, and I mean IF, we ever get a real economic recovery watch oil go through the roof.

so like, you really don't get that the thread is about petroleum speculation do you?

I think killing them is a bit extreme.

After we kill them I was planning on recycling them into compost or depending on fat content maybe a nice Bio Fuel....

Originally posted by Oliver North
and good on you for standing up to those whiners who are legitimately sometimes spending and additional $20 - $50 dollars a week on a commodity that is almost certainly essential to their lifestyle.




That's just it...their "lifestyle". They could give up their SUV

Speculators enjoy colluding and buying up resources like oil, or even worse corn, rice and wheat. This leads to massive rises in prices in goods all over the world, famines, food riots, millions of deaths in the last decade alone. They then all sell at once while the price is high, suddenly making expensive resources worthless and creating massive, shocking economic catastrophes which then lead to collapses and borrowing from the World Bank and International Monetary Fund with stipulations such as privatizing natural resources, water supplies, post offices and crops so that shares can be bought causing the next exploitative panic.
The best solution would be to socialize vital resources as part of the commons so that everyone has their fair share and everyone profits from export and ban speculation of certain resources.

So no, oil speculators shouldn't be killed. They should be treated like organized criminals. Arrest them, seize and sell their property and resources, try them, and convict them.


Then kill them.

Originally posted by Archaeopteryx
That's just it...their "lifestyle". They could give up their SUV

my eyes are open

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Speculators enjoy colluding and buying up resources like oil, or even worse corn, rice and wheat. This leads to massive rises in prices in goods all over the world, famines, food riots, millions of deaths in the last decade alone. They then all sell at once while the price is high, suddenly making expensive resources worthless and creating massive, shocking economic catastrophes which then lead to collapses and borrowing from the World Bank and International Monetary Fund with stipulations such as privatizing natural resources, water supplies, post offices and crops so that shares can be bought causing the next exploitative panic.
The best solution would be to socialize vital resources as part of the commons so that everyone has their fair share and everyone profits from export and ban speculation of certain resources.

So no, oil speculators shouldn't be killed. They should be treated like organized criminals. Arrest them, seize and sell their property and resources, try them, and convict them.


Then kill them.
That is kind of the problem right there. They dont physically have to BUY ANYTHING!! Its all just tout there in the either.. If they were forcet to buy the physical it would change alot of this crap....


And Gas here just jumped another 10 cents over nite.



KILLL THEM AND BURN THEM FOR FUEL!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would think oil speculators themselves aren't the virus, as it were, but rather a symptom of an economic model that allows personal profit to be put above common welfare.

While I don't want to deny that there could be adjustments and some middle ground. I'd still say that a system erring on the side of profit (depending on how much you want to count technical advancements as a result of it) has at least created a system that on the whole has the most significant amount of common welfare of any time period ever.

I'd like to point out that one of the only vocal senators openly fighting oil speculation RIGHT NOW is also the only admitted (and one of the tiny handful of actual) socialist in the US Congress.

Originally posted by Bentley
I always laugh when americans say things like this.

Why?

Do you actually know anything about San Francisco's public transportation system, or are you just an easily amused fella?

No. He/She/It is probably just the product of a sociolist society.


LIKE AN OIL SPECULATOR!!

A HATER OF FREEDOM!
GREED IS THE LAW
OPRESSION IS JUST A FORM OF CONTROL!

KILL THE SPECULATORS!