Orion VS Hulk

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SevenShackles
Hulk VS current Orion.
http://thanley.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/orion3.jpg
VS
http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/881/881726/hulk-marvel-20080613042916221_640w.jpg

-Pr-
Hulk.

753
hulk

mighty adam
Dcun Orion has no feats soooooo roll eyes (sarcastic)

psycho gundam
sure he does

dynamix
Lol, why did u use that pic of Orion?

psycho gundam
foreshadowing

janus77
Hulk.

celeyhyga17
Hulkster

Cogito
Originally posted by mighty adam
Dcun Orion has no feats soooooo roll eyes (sarcastic)

SevenShackles
Originally posted by mighty adam
Dcun Orion has no feats soooooo roll eyes (sarcastic)
K then, Pre flashpoint with no astro-harness.

guy222
Hulk kicks his ass

SasuOna
DCnu Orion has 0 feats

deathlife
Hulk

guy222
Yay for Hulk wins

753
He did get some feats out of his fight against superman.

even if it's pre flashpoint, I give it to hulk, if the astro harness doesnt come into play.

guy222
Hulkie a beast

carver9
Hulk is too much.

guy222
Agreed good friend

mighty adam
Originally posted by SevenShackles
K then, Pre flashpoint with no astro-harness. Orion leaves hulk lumpy.

guy222
Awww

Golgo13
With all gear considered, Orion.

guy222
Thunderclap stick out tongue

Golgo13
Boom Tube. :-p

TheHulk
Hulk 7/10

Golgo13
Originally posted by TheHulk
Hulk 7/10

How does Hulk win? Orion has strength, speed, and tech on his side. Not to mention instant BFR.

guy222
He is strong not strong enough

Stoic
Originally posted by Golgo13
How does Hulk win? Orion has strength, speed, and tech on his side. Not to mention instant BFR.

When was the Hulk ever portrayed as being slow?

Golgo13
He doesn't need to be strong enough, he's strong enough to go toe to toe, but also has other weapons, unlike Hulk.

TheHulk
Originally posted by Golgo13
How does Hulk win? Orion has strength, speed, and tech on his side. Not to mention instant BFR. Hulk has Superior Strength and Banner Tech and possibly now superior speed evil face

Golgo13
Originally posted by TheHulk
Hulk has Superior Strength and Banner Tech and possibly now superior speed evil face

Not by much, plus Astro Force FTW. Orion has technopathy, thanks to Mother Box's. New God tech > Banner tech.

guy222
Banner tech is potent

Golgo13
What has it done that is on the level of NG tech?

Stoic
Originally posted by Golgo13
Not by much, plus Astro Force FTW. Orion has technopathy, thanks to Mother Box's. New God tech > Banner tech.


I honestly can't see Orion matching the Hulk's strength for long, and he's a straight up brawler most of the time.

Golgo13
Originally posted by Stoic
I honestly can't see Orion matching the Hulk's strength for long, and he's a straight up brawler most of the time.

Nah, he can and has used the AF most of the time. Just look at the Superman battles.

TheHulk
Originally posted by Golgo13
Not by much, plus Astro Force FTW. Orion has technopathy, thanks to Mother Box's. New God tech > Banner tech. I was joking at first, but now i'm seriously starting to think you don't know much about what's going on with Hulk currently What the f**k?

TheHulk
Originally posted by Stoic
I honestly can't see Orion matching the Hulk's strength for long, and he's a straight up brawler most of the time. Lol personally he should not evenm reach his Strength at all. I know he is a peer to Thor and Supes Strength but still lol i guess that is bias for ya...

Golgo13
Originally posted by TheHulk
I was joking at first, but now i'm seriously starting to think you don't know much about what's going on with Hulk currently What the f**k?

About Banner tech? Please tell.

guy222
To me Hulk power wise another lvl than Orion

curryman
Orion stomps.

Golgo13
Originally posted by guy222
To me Hulk power wise another lvl than Orion

How?

Golgo13
Originally posted by curryman
Orion stomps.

Have you been following up with Hulk's solo series? Supposedly he is way above Orion.

guy222
Originally posted by Golgo13
How? easily friend

curryman
Originally posted by Golgo13
Have you been following up with Hulk's solo series? Supposedly he is way above Orion.
He's not, though Waid is pushing him a bit.

And if Superman unleashed that high-speed from Superman 20 on any Hulk, it would leave nothing but green mush.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by curryman
He's not, though Waid is pushing him a bit.

And if Superman unleashed that high-speed from Superman 20 on any Hulk, it would leave nothing but green mush.

wat?

guy222
Even one of esteemed posters gave Hulkie da win

Golgo13
Originally posted by curryman
He's not, though Waid is pushing him a bit.

And if Superman unleashed that high-speed from Superman 20 on any Hulk, it would leave nothing but green mush.

A Superman who benched the weight of a planet for 5 days only made Orion smile. smile He didn't even use the Astro Force.

guy222
And supes lost two straight battles after his enormous bench pressing stick out tongue

curryman
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
wat?
I meant to write high-speed beatdown stick out tongue
Originally posted by Golgo13
A Superman who benched the weight of a planet for 5 days only made Orion smile. smile He didn't even use the Astro Force.
Indeed. Even if neither of them were going all out Orion can clearly take a beating.

Golgo13
Yep. It also SEEMS that Orion is faster than Wonder Woman, since he was outracing Heremes and WW needed his help.

curryman
Originally posted by Golgo13
Yep. It also SEEMS that Orion is faster than Wonder Woman, since he was outracing Heremes and WW needed his help.
Which is crazy considering that WW is already at least as fast as Supergirl.

JakeTheBank
So you think Superman #20's blitz would be too much for even Pak Hulk?

curryman
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So you think Superman #20's blitz would be too much for even Pak Hulk?
Hulk with Pak feats, yes.

Not Hulk in a Pak comic smile

Golgo13
Originally posted by curryman
Which is crazy considering that WW is already at least as fast as Supergirl.

Forgot about that. I noticed that it's only current Orion. I'll probably give it to Hulk, mainly because of feats, but Orion seems to be right there.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk wouldn't fare any worse then Orion. Banner walks at around at their strength level at this point, and only gets stronger.

If Orion tries to fight Hulk like he fought Superman, it's not going to turn out well for him. He's going to get beat down sooner or later.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by curryman
Hulk with Pak feats, yes.

Not Hulk in a Pak comic smile

erm

Are you joking me?

Pak's Hulk internal organs alone withstood and overpowered a force with a power level of like 133 Hercules punches or whatever. And he was just at his regular Hulk levels.

guy222
Yup

Golgo13
TBF, we don't know the true extent of Orion's power. He just tangled with someone who seems to be even stronger than Hulk. I mean what is the best strength feat for current Hulk? I still haven't seen anything on par with Superman's best.

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk wouldn't fare any worse then Orion. Banner walks at around at their strength level at this point, and only gets stronger.

If Orion tries to fight Hulk like he fought Superman, it's not going to turn out well for him. He's going to get beat down sooner or later.

This.

Please ignore Curry comments on the Hulk...he said Ironman would pull a majority against Hulk. He admitted he can't stand the character.

quanchi112
Hulk wins.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Here are the scans:
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks627a.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks627b.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630f.jpg
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630g.jpg
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630h.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630i.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630j.jpg
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630k.jpg

That is some seriously ridiculous shit.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
TBF, we don't know the true extent of Orion's power. He just tangled with someone who seems to be even stronger than Hulk. I mean what is the best strength feat for current Hulk? I still haven't seen anything on par with Superman's best.

His best durability showing is tanking a blast capable of ripping through Adamantium. His best strength showing is ripping through armor that can withstand ANY pressure in space (which includes Black holes, etc...).

guy222
Hulk has no limit to his strength

Rage.Of.Olympus
I can't believe I don't see that Hulk feat ever mentioned. I would think something like that would be way beyond even someone like Thanos. Just lol.

Golgo13
Originally posted by guy222
Hulk has no limit to his strength

Superman has yet to find a limit, either. After he did his best feat yet, all he said was, "that's it?" Or something to that.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Golgo13
TBF, we don't know the true extent of Orion's power. He just tangled with someone who seems to be even stronger than Hulk.I mean what is the best strength feat for current Hulk? I still haven't seen anything on par with Superman's best.

laughing out loud

Golgo13
Superman> Hulk all day. wink

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
Superman> Hulk all day. wink


laughing out loud

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Here are the scans:
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks627a.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks627b.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630f.jpg
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630g.jpg
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630h.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630i.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630j.jpg
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630k.jpg

That is some seriously ridiculous shit.

Yeah, that's phucking dumb, but it's a insane feat for Hulk.

carver9
Yeah, that's insane.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Golgo13
Superman> Hulk all day. wink

Not in strength. Hasn't been since COIE. And even in their Pre-Crisis crossover, it was shown just how crazy Hulk's ability to ramp in anger is. No one ever posts the whole scan:
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/418/pc6sx5.jpg

Hulk was at usual Top Tier levels (Mountain crushing) facing a confirmed planet pusher and had closed such a ridiculously large gap in a few seconds.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, that's phucking dumb, but it's a insane feat for Hulk.

One Hercules is the maximum amount of energy Hercules could expend in a blow. I'll be honest, that's easily Trans level power.

guy222
They will always b compared for strength. As a Marvel fan u know who I take. I enjoy Supes few ppl know that

quanchi112
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not in strength. Hasn't been since COIE. And even in their Pre-Crisis crossover, it was shown just how crazy Hulk's ability to ramp in anger is. No one ever posts the whole scan:
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/418/pc6sx5.jpg

Hulk was at standard at Top Tier levels (Mountain crushing) facing a confirmed planet pusher and had closed such a ridiculously large gap in a few seconds. Very impressive.

TheHulk
Lol and now we are doing Hulk worship...

753
hulk has the virtue of not being a punching bag and he wins

curryman
130 Hercs, even Herc's laughing at that Hyperbole smile

Golgo13
Originally posted by 753
hulk has the virtue of not being a punching bag and he wins

He would be the punching bag of Superman or Orion if they used their speed.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not in strength. Hasn't been since COIE. And even in their Pre-Crisis crossover, it was shown just how crazy Hulk's ability to ramp in anger is. No one ever posts the whole scan:
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/418/pc6sx5.jpg

Hulk was at usual Top Tier levels (Mountain crushing) facing a confirmed planet pusher and had closed such a ridiculously large gap in a few seconds.

The one thing I hated about that scene was how often you see the first panel cropped by itself and not the following ones that quite clearly state how fast Hulk is amping his strength, enough to where Superman has to resort to blocking Hulk with effort and to the point where the narration states the outcome is in doubt.

Crossovers are crossovers and non-canon 9 times out of 10, but that issue in question did nothing but display incredible respect for Hulk's power against a Superman of an absurd era.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
He would be the punching bag of Superman or Orion if they used their speed.


Lol.

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
Lol.

wink

-Pr-
Guys, don't turn this in to Hulk V Superman. There are threads for that.

753
Originally posted by curryman
130 Hercs, even Herc's laughing at that Hyperbole smile too bad it was an actual measurement, not a hyperbole, which was made clear

Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea. Still pretty crazy.

753
retarded is more like it, but pak is gonna pak

curryman
Originally posted by 753
too bad it was an actual measurement, not a hyperbole, which was made clear
No one's measured Herc's upper limit.

Nor has any herald on earth even hit 130 times as hard as he has.

Waid seems to think Herc's a 100 tonner.

carver9
Lol...that wasn't even Waid that wrote that.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not in strength. Hasn't been since COIE. And even in their Pre-Crisis crossover, it was shown just how crazy Hulk's ability to ramp in anger is. No one ever posts the whole scan:
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/418/pc6sx5.jpg

Hulk was at usual Top Tier levels (Mountain crushing) facing a confirmed planet pusher and had closed such a ridiculously large gap in a few seconds.
What do you mean he was getting close to superman in strength? The only thing that was in doubt was that whether hulk would've been able to move superman, that's not getting close to superman in strength. Superman nonchalantly stopping a hulk's punch who was getting his strength doubled by every second is a ridiculous feat.

TheHulk
Originally posted by curryman
No one's measured Herc's upper limit.

Nor has any herald on earth even hit 130 times as hard as he has.

Waid seems to think Herc's a 100 tonner. Quit low-balling

Golgo13
Originally posted by abhilegend
What do you mean he was getting close to superman in strength? The only thing that was in doubt was that whether hulk would've been able to move superman, that's not getting close to superman in strength. Superman nonchalantly stopping a hulk's punch who was getting his strength doubled by every second is a ridiculous feat.

Yep. Superman looked the superior.

-Pr-
Seriously guys:

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, don't turn this in to Hulk V Superman. There are threads for that.

Stoic
Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, don't turn this in to Hulk V Superman. There are threads for that.

So true, especially when Superman often holds back for fear of killing his opponents. Orion isn't Superman so I can't really see the correlation.

leonidas
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Here are the scans:
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks627a.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks627b.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630f.jpg
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630g.jpg
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630h.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630i.jpg

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630j.jpg
http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l588/lgunibrow88/IncredibleHulks630k.jpg

That is some seriously ridiculous shit.

where's that from and...what exactly happened? blink i got the 133x herc (which is....idiotic) but how did those scans support the idea that hulk was displayed as 133x?

leonidas
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The one thing I hated about that scene was how often you see the first panel cropped by itself and not the following ones that quite clearly state how fast Hulk is amping his strength, enough to where Superman has to resort to blocking Hulk with effort and to the point where the narration states the outcome is in doubt.

Crossovers are crossovers and non-canon 9 times out of 10, but that issue in question did nothing but display incredible respect for Hulk's power against a Superman of an absurd era.

in that scan i've always seen superman's immovability as a sign of his power level/strength. it was a direct test of power vs power. i think it was a clearly intended to suggest that hulk was equaling superman's power level, and quickly. once he moved him, their strength levels would have been considered equal. like now-a-days that doesn't mean hulk would have beaten supes in a fight, but i def think it was intended to show their relative strengths.

carver9
@Leo...

Hulk even managed to flash ko this version of Superman.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12343122/sh5.jpg.html

Naija boy
Originally posted by leonidas
where's that from and...what exactly happened? blink i got the 133x herc (which is....idiotic) but how did those scans support the idea that hulk was displayed as 133x?

It's incredible hulk 630. OK have to go double check the actual comic but The first scan shows the force in pandoras box clocking in at 133 hercs and then the second scan shows hulk literally sucking in that entity /force and putting a stop to it's rampage. In other words hulks innards put a stop to an entity outputting 133 hercs worth of energy.

Ridiculous but that was pak for you.

Khazra Reborn
You know, Pak isn't the only guy to have written Hulk, he does have 50 years of other feats. Plus he hasn't done much of anything since Pak left.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I can't believe I don't see that Hulk feat ever mentioned. I would think something like that would be way beyond even someone like Thanos. Just lol. the herc scale was mentioned a lot, but the hulk hate around here is too strong.

curryman = 133 hulk hates

curryman
Originally posted by psycho gundam
the herc scale was mentioned a lot, but the hulk hate around here is too strong.

curryman = 133 hulk hates

Herc's supposed to be in equal to Thor and an enraged Hulk.

Now Hulk can take 130 Hercs to his lungs and recover in two instants stick out tongue

abhilegend
Originally posted by carver9
@Leo...

Hulk even managed to flash ko this version of Superman.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12343122/sh5.jpg.html
Haha.

psycho gundam
cho, same guy who devised the system also said long before that hulk was always holding back

Originally posted by curryman
Herc's supposed to be in equal to Thor and an enraged Hulk.

Now Hulk can take 130 Hercs to his lungs and recover in two instants stick out tongue

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/hulkholdingbackagainsthercules_zpse2b4a075.jpg

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/hulkinsidesdurable-1_zps47780f23.jpg http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk/hulkinsidesdurable1-1_zps80ab9d48.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
You know, Pak isn't the only guy to have written Hulk, he does have 50 years of other feats. Plus he hasn't done much of anything since Pak left.


Have you been keeping up with the character? He's done a lot after Pak.

Mindset
Originally posted by psycho gundam
cho, same guy who devised the system also said long before that hulk was always holding back

Everyone holds back.

psycho gundam
sure, but not to that degree.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/WWHStrikingPower13WhenTitansCollide1.jpg

Damborgson
Pak really was thorough.

Mindset
Originally posted by psycho gundam
sure, but not to that degree.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Strength/WWHStrikingPower13WhenTitansCollide1.jpg What's that supposed to prove?

Herc was the strongest person on Earth aside from retard Sentry. Pretty sure most people think he would eventually beat Herc, so yea.

Actually, Hulk wouldn't have been able to kill GR and likely Juggs. Idk what Cho is talking about.

753
Originally posted by curryman
No one's measured Herc's upper limit.

Nor has any herald on earth even hit 130 times as hard as he has.

Waid seems to think Herc's a 100 tonner.
apparently, someone has.

pandora's box

Doubt it.

753
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
You know, Pak isn't the only guy to have written Hulk, he does have 50 years of other feats. Plus he hasn't done much of anything since Pak left. he has tanked and pushed through a barrage from the weapon ultron used to melt adamantium his own shell and tweak it. his speedbursts have been given a push and his walkaround strengh is in line with wwh.

Golgo13
How fast are his speed bursts again?

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
How fast are his speed bursts again?

He outran a flying Ironman. His blitzing speed is insane...moving around in a blurr majority of the time.

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
He outran a flying Ironman. His blitzing speed is insane...moving around in a blurr majority of the time.

Dont think that is faster than orion who was outracing Hermes, iirc.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by carver9
He outran a flying Ironman. His blitzing speed is insane...moving around in a blurr majority of the time.
lol no...
I'll admit they've played it up in recent times, but u make it seem like he's a speedster..

753
he hasnt really been blitzing, but yeah, he was definitely faster bullrushing forward than IM flying in that instance

753
Originally posted by Golgo13
Dont think that is faster than orion who was outracing Hermes, iirc. he isnt faster than orion

carver9
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
lol no...
I'll admit they've played it up in recent times, but u make it seem like he's a speedster..

He's pretty close to it if you ask me.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14449206/IH-02-017.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14061794/IH-01-15.jpg.html

I'm not posting all of his speed fts because it tends to happen in "every comic Waid writes.

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
He's pretty close to it if you ask me.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14449206/IH-02-017.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14061794/IH-01-15.jpg.html

I'm not posting all of his speed fts because it tends to happen in "every comic Waid writes.

Is that supposed to be impressive? Is Tony as fast as Orion? Is he a speedster?

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Mindset
What's that supposed to prove?
Idk what Cho is talking about. hulk




.....




...

the lames you mentioned

i don't have the scan of the breakdown of the herc scale at the ready, but it exists and it makes hercules look bad. hulk drank 133 hercs like cuervo (no homo)

Originally posted by Mindset
Actually, Hulk wouldn't have been able to kill GR and likely Juggs. Idk what Cho is talking about. Originally posted by Mindset
Nope.

Come at me.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
Is that supposed to be impressive? Is Tony as fast as Orion? Is he a speedster?

WTF. confused

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
WTF. confused

That's what I said. wink

-Pr-
He's not a speedster. He's quick, though.

carver9
Originally posted by Golgo13
That's what I said. wink


If that isn't true speed, I don't know what to tell you. Don't see Orion blitzing around at super speed "without his harness".

Golgo13
Originally posted by carver9
If that isn't true speed, I don't know what to tell you. Don't see Orion blitzing around at super speed "without his harness".

He has his harness and his MB. Plus the Boom Tube. He has too many weapons to lose the fight.

Mindset
Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk




.....




...

the lames you mentioned

i don't have the scan of the breakdown of the herc scale at the ready, but it exists and it makes hercules look bad. hulk drank 133 hercs like cuervo (no homo) Hulk wouldn't have killed Wolverine either.

Cho is obviously gecko.

cdtm
Originally posted by SevenShackles
K then, Pre flashpoint with no astro-harness.

He still has the astro gauntlets.

cdtm
Originally posted by carver9
If that isn't true speed, I don't know what to tell you. Don't see Orion blitzing around at super speed "without his harness".

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/orion23kebbin11_zps8a73445b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/orion23kebbin16_zps789d9a46.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/CDTM3000/orion23kebbin17_zps109fc8a5.jpg

He was completely blind, with destroyed eyes.

-Pr-
To be fair to Carver, he would have actually had to READ the comics, to see stuff happening.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Mindset
Hulk wouldn't have killed Wolverine either.

Cho is obviously gecko. no

cdtm
Originally posted by psycho gundam


i don't have the scan of the breakdown of the herc scale at the ready, but it exists and it makes hercules look bad. hulk drank 133 hercs like cuervo (no homo)

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/109250/2443760-IncredibleHulk107-023.jpg

rolling on floor laughing

carver9
Nobody said Herc couldn't hurt Hulk.

cdtm
Originally posted by carver9
Nobody said Herc couldn't hurt Hulk.

That's more then just hurting him, though. Was practically a flash KO, though. Or at least a stun.

carver9
Originally posted by cdtm
That's more then just hurting him, though. Was practically a flash KO, though. Or at least a stun.

He wasn't koed, not even near it. Then it was a surprise attack...they covered the area with smoke...not like he did it face to face. That's not a good example to use bro, especially when we have Herc himself telling us Hulk could have killed him if he didn't pull his punches.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by cdtm
That's more then just hurting him, though. Was practically a flash KO, though. Or at least a stun.

What?

Hulk was hit by a sucker shot IIRC. Fell. Immediately got up. And based on how much Hercules put into it, Hulk did more damage to him with less effort.

In that issue Hulk's walk around strength was at least on par with Hercules. To me it was pretty clear that he was noticeably stronger.

cdtm
Originally posted by carver9
He wasn't koed, not even near it.

Knocked on his side, eyes shut.

Flash KO is when a fighter is knocked out for just a second, or less, and comes back from it.

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by cdtm
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/109250/2443760-IncredibleHulk107-023.jpg

rolling on floor laughing

If I were 133 times stronger than a baby, the baby would not do that to me, just saying shifty

Nice hulk feat btw (the one with pandora)

Stoic
Originally posted by cdtm
Knocked on his side, eyes shut.

Flash KO is when a fighter is knocked out for just a second, or less, and comes back from it.


I really hope that you don't believe that he was KO'ed. He wasn't.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Stoic
I really hope that you don't believe that he was KO'ed. He wasn't. thumb up

Stoic
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
If I were 133 times stronger than a baby, the baby would not do that to me, just saying shifty


You're not taking his dynamic strength into consideration.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Yup. Pak's Hulk could spike in strength tremendously at the drop of a hat. After all, the first time we saw World Breaker Hulk was moments after Banner was seemingly depleted fighting an all out Sentry.

I think it was suggested that Hulk draws his energy from the ambient Gamma field of creation or some shit like that right and it's his emotions that regulates how much of that he accesses.

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by Stoic
You're not taking his dynamic strength into consideration.

Honestly, most of their fights, they seem close,I think Hulk is stronger than Thor or Herc.

Btw according to marvel Hercules is physically stronger than Zeus himself.

cdtm
Originally posted by Stoic
I really hope that you don't believe that he was KO'ed. He wasn't.

Why would you hope that I don't believe it, and why are you so sure he wasn't?

You do know KO's can be very quick things, right? A person can be KOed, and recover, before they even drop.

Not saying that's the case with Hulk, but his eyes are clearly shut, and Herc didn't hit him in such a way to send him flying.

Rao Kal El
Also Herc in that fight was not really trying to stop the Hulk, but to help him.

He understanded the pain of loosing the woman he loves.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by cdtm
Why would you hope that I don't believe it, and why are you so sure he wasn't?

You do know KO's can be very quick things, right? A person can be KOed, and recover, before they even drop.

Not saying that's the case with Hulk, but his eyes are clearly shut, and Herc didn't hit him in such a way to send him flying.

Comics aren't real life. When a character is knocked out, I think it's usually pretty damn clear they've been laid out. Does every time a character grimace or is drawn with their eyes closed with the panel considered to be a knock out? Because that shit happens pretty often.

I'm pretty sure Hulk wasn't knocked out based on what I've read of World War Hulk.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Also Herc in that fight was not really trying to stop the Hulk, but to help him.

He understanded the pain of loosing the woman he loves.

This is true.

That being said, based on a few hits leaving him a bloody mess, Hercules might fair initially better by bracing and defending himself, but ultimately, all it's going to do is piss Hulk off. And in turn he'll sustain an even worse beating in the long run.

Banner did say that Hercules was one of the few on Earth with a prayer of ever stopping the Hulk but I don't think it's going to be from trading punches.

carver9
Originally posted by cdtm
Knocked on his side, eyes shut.

Flash KO is when a fighter is knocked out for just a second, or less, and comes back from it.

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Hulk%20Fights%20F-M/HulkvsHercules13.jpg.html

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is true.

That being said, based on a few hits leaving him a bloody mess, Hercules might fair initially better by bracing and defending himself, but ultimately, all it's going to do is piss Hulk off. And in turn he'll sustain an even worse beating in the long run.

Banner did say that Hercules was one of the few on Earth with a prayer of ever stopping the Hulk but I don't think it's going to be from trading punches.

Yes, even though I believe Herc could have put a great fight in the end Hulks Hf and dynamic strength would have eventually defeated Herc.

ODG
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Honestly, most of their fights, they seem close,I think Hulk is stronger than Thor or Herc.

Btw according to marvel Hercules is physically stronger than Zeus himself. According to Marvel, Zeus is waaay stronger than Hercules. Considering Zeus beat the utter stuffing out of WWH and Hercules only managed to topple him briefly.

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by ODG
According to Marvel, Zeus is waaay stronger than Hercules. Considering Zeus beat the utter stuffing out of WWH and Hercules only managed to topple him briefly.

Ill look for the reference and post it. Not that I think is right.

Like you, I think Zeus is way stronger than Herc and the panel evidence confirms it.

carver9
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Yes, even though I believe Herc could have put a great fight in the end Hulks Hf and dynamic strength would have eventually defeated Herc.

Herc can give any Herald a fight imo and can probably pull some wins but he knew he stepped knee deep when he hit WWH like that...he even admits it after WWH attacked back.

Stoic
Originally posted by cdtm
Why would you hope that I don't believe it, and why are you so sure he wasn't?

You do know KO's can be very quick things, right? A person can be KOed, and recover, before they even drop.

Not saying that's the case with Hulk, but his eyes are clearly shut, and Herc didn't hit him in such a way to send him flying.


He wasn't KO'ed, he hit the ground, and his eyes were closed. When Blue Marvel hit Sentry, it was pretty clear that Bob was out for several seconds. This was not the case with the Hulk, Herc situation. The Hulk was also not going all out, or his strength would have eclipsed Hercs in moments.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Honestly, most of their fights, they seem close,I think Hulk is stronger than Thor or Herc.

Btw according to marvel Hercules is physically stronger than Zeus himself.


As for the Zeus comment Hercules is stronger than Zeus while Zeus is at base, and not amping. Hercules is not as strong as the Hulk when the Hulk isn't holding back. At base levels they are about the same, but the Hulk can take it up to a degree that Herc has no chance of matching.

Thor is stronger than Hercules when he cuts loose as well.

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by Stoic
As for the Zeus comment Hercules is stronger than Zeus while Zeus is at base, and not amping. Hercules is not as strong as the Hulk when the Hulk isn't holding back. At base levels they are about the same, but the Hulk can take it up to a degree that Herc has no chance of matching.

Thor is stronger than Hercules when he cuts loose as well.

Many wont agree to that. I have seen threads were the win is given to Zeus even if he is not amping, just because he is a skyfater.

Now I do really wonder according to Pak how many "hercs" will be required to lift earth's weight for 5 days or tank punches from someone who can produce that force and still smile.

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