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I can't think of any plausible reason for this to happen, so it simply does. Happens in New York.

Round 1. Fist fight
Round 2. Cloud gets his sword.

This is the main continuation continued on, right? Given all of his old feats he likely takes Round 1 if he doesn't hold back on strength, not Round 2.

I believe Spidey has better strength feats but isnt fast enough to successfully tag Cloud every time with his Senses, which becomes a huge issue when he's wielding his sword.


Unless the new comic has given him more feats..

You feel Cloud is faster than Spider-Man? mmm He was avoiding several of the Avengers at once until he got distracted.

2beeonest the only speed feats I know of for Spidey is his casual Ma2 bullet dodge feats without his SSenses, which must allow him near hypersonic reactions.

Zack at the beginning of CC was casually dodging machinegun fire (Ma1.5?). Him < Post-skip Zack (fighting dozens of soldiers all with machine guns, missiles and I believe helicopter fire) < Sephiroth by a small notable degree </= FF7 Seph < AC Seph (I think..) = AC Cloud < AC Cloud using Omnislash. If Zack at the end was in the mid-high supersonic range, AC Cloud must be hypersonic+.

With his SS Spider-Man can be incredibly hard to hit and he's a lot more mobile than Cloud because of his webbing and the like.

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/sp/20ffd1e5f6b8b8c2bb3f7171b2111bdd/Sinister_Six_round_two_1.jpg

"I did it in nine"


http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/sp/1260c611dbec9180a03f5a8b50b47940/Avengers_3.jpg

It should be noted Superior Spider-Man is a much more brutal and cheap fighter than Spider-Man is normally. He's collapsed and crushed the tracheas of several criminals just because it was a quick way to deal with them or it was open, and punched the jaw clean off of the Scorpion. Though, he hadn't realized how strong he actually was when he hit Scorpion.

Scans from SamZED.

made this thread before, but it was Peter.

Don't remember what people thought about it then mmm

Originally posted by Zack Fair
made this thread before, but it was Peter.

Don't remember what people thought about it then mmm
Hm. My bad. mmm My memory is pretty magically shitty.

eh? No worries wasn't complaining or anything. This is Otto anyways, so thread is legit.

Cloud's chances are lowered though because otto does not **** around.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
With his SS Spider-Man can be incredibly hard to hit and he's a lot more mobile than Cloud because of his webbing and the like.

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/sp/20ffd1e5f6b8b8c2bb3f7171b2111bdd/Sinister_Six_round_two_1.jpg

"I did it in nine"

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/sp/1260c611dbec9180a03f5a8b50b47940/Avengers_3.jpg

It should be noted Superior Spider-Man is a much more brutal and cheap fighter than Spider-Man is normally. He's collapsed and crushed the tracheas of several criminals just because it was a quick way to deal with them or it was open, and punched the jaw clean off of the Scorpion. Though, he hadn't realized how strong he actually was when he hit Scorpion.

Scans from SamZED.

Links have gracefully failed, as have you sir.


(Sweet O.o) Still, its possible hypersonic reactions vs definite hypersonic movement. He's have the edge.. for now. And a brutal Spidey is what would be needed if Cloud were to bring his sword out.

I'm just gonna quote/link to SamZED's posts in the Spider-Man respect thread, lol. Quoting him without the images since there's a limit to the number of images that can be put in a single post.

Originally posted by SamZED
gauntlet vs villains part 2


Spider-man while carrying a baby vs upgraded Electro and Sandman part 1
(notice how easilly he jumps through a moving rotor of a police helicopter (yes, again)
Originally posted by SamZED
More...


Lands a 50-ton private jet.. on his shoulders.
Concidering the power of the impact (the plane was falling) and overall weight.. another crazy strength feat from Spider-man. Screw handbooks.


Also gets a thank you from Jameson. Win.


Spider-man vs Phoenix Force Colossus and Magik
Insane durability and damage soak feat. Colossus is pulling his attacks, Magik isn't. Plus they use tk and blast him several times. Also a good display of kicking power, almost brings down the cave.


Broken face, shattered spine, a HUGE explosion that destroyed the mountain from the inside out.. Peter is still standing. Originally posted by SamZED
Superior Spider-man vs the latest "Sinister Six" (Round 2).



Owns all of them. Puts Bumerang in a coma. Originally posted by SamZED
Superior Spider-man vs The Avengers.



Easilly runs circles around them but gets distracted by Pete and tagged. Widow's comments suggests they've been at it for some time.

Check those posts ^ I don't think that Cloud compares to Spider-Man in speed or mobility. His spider-sense will make the gap wider than it would otherwise be when it comes time to try and tag him. I'm still optimistic about Spider-Man's chances when Cloud has the sword.

No doubt the strength goes to him, more so with piggy-backing a plane and surviving that explosion.. but none of that changes the speed view.

Helicopter blades, the Sinister Six and the Avengers are all sub-sonic feats. Logan possibly being supersonic, Thor being his erratic self making his speed questionable here, likely that of the rest given the scene. Its all below his non-Senses bullet timing.

I believe Logan is fast, but supersonic?

In reactions only. I think there's some bullet timing feats out there for him(?), then there's him getting into scraps with people in Spider-Man's speed bracket.

Cloud crushes Spiderman.

Originally posted by BloodRain
No doubt the strength goes to him, more so with piggy-backing a plane and surviving that explosion.. but none of that changes the speed view.

Helicopter blades, the Sinister Six and the Avengers are all sub-sonic feats. Logan possibly being supersonic, Thor being his erratic self making his speed questionable here, likely that of the rest given the scene. Its all below his non-Senses bullet timing.
You missed him setting up a city block sized, very dense, web blockade in seconds. Also, Mjolnir is extremely fast moving when Thor tosses it, and Spider-Man was being shot at during that panel.

Thor tosses at various speeds depending on weather, breakfast choice and how much BW's racktastic suit distracts him. On the respect page new Spidey's Senses were getting blitzed by Speed Demon and his 'hundreds of punches in split seconds', who from this feat alone is pushing it to say Ma5.

With the new feats shown he'd stomp in h2h. Its just until he shows us the full extent of his speed this is a casual bullet timer vs a guy who's above a guy who peaked well after being a casual bullet timer.. with a sword.

Cloud is VASTLY superior to Spider man in all physical stats.

Strength too?

Not by any feats I've ever seen.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Strength too?
yes

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=19207
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?bt=62581
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?bt=111067

Originally posted by Nevan
yes

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=19207
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?bt=62581
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?bt=111067
None of those apply to Cloud, Sephiroth would beat Spider-Man. Let's not get too fruity with power scaling. Omnislash puts Sephiroth down, not physical might.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Hm. My bad. mmm My memory is pretty magically shitty. Your memory sucks. Agreed.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
None of those apply to Cloud, Sephiroth would beat Spider-Man. Let's not get too fruity with power scaling. Omnislash puts Sephiroth down, not physical might.
Jenova Durability = 19.912 megatons

Whirlwind Maze Party Speed = 34,182.601 m/s

Energy of Average Materia = 48.337 teratons

All of this applies to Cloud in some way.

Those numbers are massively out of proportion of any feat I've seen from Cloud or Sephiroth. Cloud's best strength feats are cutting feats which could be replicated by any class 10.