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Let's pretend the dark side ending is 'canon.' Revan kills Malak, keeps the Star Forge and conquers the Republic. Revan still does not remember the Sith Emperor but he does plan for an external threat after the Republic is his.

The Sith Emperor after hearing news of the Republic's demise leaves Dromund Kaas but is attacked by Revan thus starting a Sith Civil War.

Revan has access too...
-The Star Forge
-Dark side Bastila
-The Sith Triumvirate
-Canderous and the last remnants of the Mandalorians

Vitiate has everything he had when he attacks the Republic canonically. Which Sith Empire would conquer?

It's too bad I can't see LeGenD's posts. He's gonna be so damn conflicted.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
It's too bad I can't see LeGenD's posts. He's gonna be so damn conflicted.

You put him on ignore?

Revan takes this. He has great tactical feats, and with the Star Forge and a few years of prep he'll likely have a larger fleet. He'll also likely be able to sway the Mandalorians to his side rather than the Emperor because the Mandos have a huge hard on for those who conquer them.

Well lets see. Revan has the numbers since the Star Forge can produce limitless, superior ships. Vitiate has force users which gives him that advantage. Revan is a superior tactician. Iunno.

Revan wins. F*cking duh.

Tbh I didn't even read the opening post. Good points.

Doesn't Vitiate have battle meditation haxx0rz of his own, though?

Gnost-Dural also said Bastila was there when Revan killed Malak. And said the Infinite Empire existed 25 "centuries" ago.


Gnost-Dural's doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

That may be true, but Master Plo Henricksen and his history vids were the coolest thing about TOR.

That's not saying a whole hell of a lot, though.

To be honest, the outcome of this battle depends upon the circumstances and situation of both the Empires in question.

Revan had plans to destroy the hidden Sith Empire after conquering the Republic. During his era, he may have even succeeded in doing so.

The hidden Sith Empire emerged as the greatest superpower in the Galaxy 300 years later.

Also, Sith Emperor have Dread Masters under his disposal who can destroy an entire armies/fleets with their powers.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
That may be true, but Master Plo Henricksen and his history vids were the coolest thing about TOR.

That's not saying a whole hell of a lot, though.

Factually wrong.

Forget everything, Sith Emperor could wipe out the whole Galaxy himself after adequate preparations... ULTIMATE HAX

Originally posted by Nephthys
Factually wrong. That's just ridiculous. Looks like it belongs in Skyrim or something.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Factually wrong.

Yeah, yeah, it's Revan with spikey football pads. Color me unimpressed.

You guys suck. That armor is ****ing sweet. And Revan's outfit is also sweet and you know you love it.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Revan wins. F*cking duh.



Originally posted by The_Tempest
That may be true, but Master Plo Henricksen and his history vids were the coolest thing about TOR.

That's not saying a whole hell of a lot, though.

Sad but true.

Anyone know why they quit making those?

Allergies. TOR's writing staff is allergic to creativity.

I remember a time that I was optimistic for this game and its premise. I remember glee at the death of Revan The Messiah and anxious for the creative curveballs to be thrown with the Sith Emperor.

Watching those videos only inflamed my interest. The Sith Emperor was menacing; the prospect of a rivalry between his camp and the ancient Sith was tantalizing; and the one video about Naga Sadow possessing a Jedi and duking it out with one of Vitiate's sleeper agents was actually genuinely creepy.

Maybe Lance Henricksen should have narrated and/or voiced everyone?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Factually wrong.
This is Darth Marr.

No, really????

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, really????
Yes.

The numbers are indeed on Revan's side. However how considerable would this advantage be? The Star Forge helps a lot yet it has its drawbacks which eventually caused the end of the Rakatan Empire. So it's full potential cannot be used.

Revan does have Republic shipyards but the Sith Emperor was able to counteract them easily in the opening stages of the war.

But I do agree that Revan will have the bigger army but he lacks in powerful Sith Lords. Vitiate has the Dark Council so that's seven powers there. There are also hyped up Sith Lords not even on the Council but is feared by the Jedi such as Baras, Angral and of course Malgus. And of course the legions of regular Sith which I'm sure outnumbers Revan but a lot.

So how soon would be until the Emperor gets a hold of the Star Forge and uses it in ways Revan never dared to?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Factually wrong. And what's with the pneumatic piping covering the armor? Does he need that to live? Is it pumping Venom or Cherry Coke in to his blood?

Sith Emperor have lot of options under his disposal:

1) Super-weapons that can destroy planets
2) Dark Councilors handling Empire affairs
3) Dread Masters who can destroy whole armies/fleets with their powers
4) High-tech weaponry

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Sith Emperor have lot of options under his disposal:

2) Dark Councilors
3) Dread Masters Haha that sounds so phucking retarded. Sounds like Drew's contribution.

Marr's armor is the coolest looking armor I've seen in the mythos.

Originally posted by steveholt955
Marr's armor is the coolest looking armor I've seen in the mythos.
The guy himself is pure bad@ss.

He is among the most powerful Sith Lords in history.

Originally posted by steveholt955
Marr's armor is the coolest looking armor I've seen in the mythos. Yeah Star Wars has never been great at making cool looking armor. Even the best are kinda meh. My favorite so far has been the Experimental Jedi Armor from TFU.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Yeah Star Wars has never been great at making cool looking armor. Even the best are kinda meh. My favorite so far has been the Experimental Jedi Armor from TFU.

Looks like Iron Man became a Jedi.

And Darth Marr is a boss. Every scene with the Dark Council was made by his presence. I was deeply wounded when he was in the room for the Darth Malgus story arc but didn't say a single word. Instead we had to suffer more whining from Darth Ravage.

Him, Mortis, and Vowrawn are the shit and should have more lines.

That experimental jedi robe looks retarded. It's half Mandalorian half cape.

It would look better with some color. Its still pretty cool though.

I like its simplicity. No ridiculous spikes, or arm tubing, or chest panels, or blinking lights, or giant flowing capes. Functional and understated.

Translation: Boring.

Also my Imperial Agent did nothing but shit on Marr the entire time I talked to him. It was hilarious.

So do you ever see his face?

Nope. Though since he seems to be the de-facto leader of the Empire now he'll probably get more focus.