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Magneto the Older (trilogy) and the Younger (XMFC) vs. Faora and her friend.

Arena: Ruined Metropolis, pieces of metal and wrecked cars all over the ground

Who wins?

Kryptonians win

Does their armor count as metal?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Does their armor count as metal? I would say so.

They can take it off at will though

And they can probably overpower Magneto's hold anyway.

Faora and the big guy never got passed the sensory overload issue. Mag pops their helmets off and watches them squirm.

Fair point.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Faora and the big guy never got passed the sensory overload issue. Mag pops their helmets off and watches them squirm.

They still are invunerable to most standards of attacks and any that magnus would throw at them. Trains smashing on them is the same thing magnus could do, so I still think they would win, and zach is right, he could overpower his TK hold.

But not sensory overload. If their armor can be manipulated, then that knife Faora carries could probably cut them.

Hard to tell if the knife would cut them because the knife never got to cut through anything. Sure the kryptonian armor is very durable and if we assume the knife is anywhere near as strong as the armor than it might cut them. But then again who knows about the force needed to pull it off.

The sensory overload is key to Magneto winning here. But...would magnus even know?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
But not sensory overload. If their armor can be manipulated, then that knife Faora carries could probably cut them.

What was the big guys name in MOS?

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Hard to tell if the knife would cut them because the knife never got to cut through anything. Sure the kryptonian armor is very durable and if we assume the knife is anywhere near as strong as the armor than it might cut them. But then again who knows about the force need to get it to cut them.

The sensory overload is key to Magneto winning here. But...would magnus even know?

I see her getting over it after a short time just like Zod, she is a warrior. If she was incapacitated for any amount of time, yea mag could toss shit at her but as we saw in MOS, it would have little effect on her.

Supes basically told zod how to overcome it though. He initially thought he was poisoned or some jazz.

Magneto moved an entire bridge and barely struggled, pretty sure they're not overpowering him if he's holding them down with metal.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Supes basically told zod how to overcome it though. He initially thought he was poisoned or some jazz.

The good in him

Originally posted by marwash22
Magneto moved an entire bridge and barely struggled, pretty sure they're not overpowering him if he's holding them down with metal. Would the metal resist their force AND magneto's though?

Magnus could not even hold back Sebastian Shaw. Im pretty sure the same thing would happen with the kryptonians.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Would the metal resist their force AND magneto's though? ah, that's interesting. I dunno.Originally posted by Supra
Magnus could not even hold back Sebastian Shaw. Im pretty sure the same thing would happen with the kryptonians. That was young Mags.

Young Mags struggled with a submarine, old Mag lifted the Golden Gate Bridge with little effort.

His flesh is human, it will be broken by the kryptonian might of the 3, they wont be able to control all three of them

Mags couldn't hold back Shaw because he'd just absorbed nearly the entirety of a nuclear subs energy core and he absorbed all the kinetic energy imparted by each impact. So every hit was not only useless against him, but only made him stronger. Kryptonians don't do that.

As for the knife, logic would dictate that kryptonian knives are able to cut kryptonian flesh. There's no point in making a weapon for use against your own race, only to have it be completely ineffectual.

And vs rules state the combatants know at least the basics about each other beforehand.

It's 2on2.

Originally posted by KingD19
Mags couldn't hold back Shaw because he'd just absorbed nearly the entirety of a nuclear subs energy core and he absorbed all the kinetic energy imparted by each impact. So every hit was not only useless against him, but only made him stronger. Kryptonians don't do that.

As for the knife, logic would dictate that kryptonian knives are able to cut kryptonian flesh. There's no point in making a weapon for use against your own race, only to have it be completely ineffectual.

And vs rules state the combatants know at least the basics about each other beforehand. Logic implies these knives would cut kryptonians on their homeworld.

It is a whole different ball game on earth with the sun radiation giving them super powers IMHO.

Originally posted by KingD19
Mags couldn't hold back Shaw because he'd just absorbed nearly the entirety of a nuclear subs energy core and he absorbed all the kinetic energy imparted by each impact. So every hit was not only useless against him, but only made him stronger. Kryptonians don't do that.

As for the knife, logic would dictate that kryptonian knives are able to cut kryptonian flesh. There's no point in making a weapon for use against your own race, only to have it be completely ineffectual.

And vs rules state the combatants know at least the basics about each other beforehand.

The knife could cut there flesh on Krytpon, we dont know about on earth. It was never seen.

Assuming the sun keeps working, this fight is over for magento.

But if they made their armor back on Krypton for Kryptonian environment, and it stood up to that massive amount of damage on Earth due to their new powers, wouldn't it stand to reason the knife is made up to the same standards?

Originally posted by KingD19
As for the knife, logic would dictate that kryptonian knives are able to cut kryptonian flesh. There's no point in making a weapon for use against your own race, only to have it be completely ineffectual.

It would. But only if they aren't made invincible by the sun's radiation.

As such, I'd have a hard time believing the knife could cut a solar-charged Kryptonian. I mean, just look how casually Zod tore apart his armor.


Edit: Beaten to the punch.

Probably yes.

Like I said though, their skin is tougher on earth. Knife might cut through the armor(we really don't know) but their actual skin is something else.

Basic knowledge about each other right?

Kryptonians speedblitz the **** out of Magnetos before they get to pull any fancy tricks.

Originally posted by KingD19
But if they made their armor back on Krypton for Kryptonian environment, and it stood up to that massive amount of damage on Earth due to their new powers, wouldn't it stand to reason the knife is made up to the same standards?

Zod effortlessly tore apart his armor. I doubt a knife of a similar substance will be able to cut him at all.

Older Magneto could hold them and crush them in their armor. Not sure that's going to hurt them though, as they never got hurt to the point of bleeding from all the damage they took.

But he can't stop their heat vision, which would destroy their helms in the process, but Magnetos would be dead.

I don't think either Mag could harm these guys. Even in the armor they were too durable to just be cruched. Their only hope is to overload their senses which is very unlikely