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Who Wins?
No prep..
No B.F.R..




The JLA

Superman
G.L Hal
Wonder Woman
Manhunter


Vs


The JSA

Captain Marvel
Dr.Fate ( Classic )
Power Girl
Sentinel

Fate solos.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Fate solos.




I don't think he does..
Why u feel he does?
Classic Fate is on par with classic Strange and peeps wouldn't say that Strange would solo this..

Nothing Hal or Superman can do to PC Fate. PC Fate had the strength of PC Superman (Close) and durability. He is a pure energy being sometimes.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Nothing Hal or Superman can do to PC Fate. PC Fate had the strength of PC Superman (Close) and durability. He is a pure energy being sometimes.




Pre or Post ?

Which are you talking about? Or u mean both?

Originally posted by Supermex
Pre or Post ?

Which are you talking about? Or u mean both?

When you say Classic Fate, do you mean Kent?

Originally posted by Golgo13
When you say Classic Fate, do you mean Kent?






Yep Kent

Fate wins.

Kent wins.

Fate carries his team

Sentinel could come close to soloing aswell

So who's the fate thats almost or on par with classic Strange then? Sents this Fate is so over-beast..

So Strange solos the JLA 2? Cause iv always heard that Strange and Fate were about on par as it gets

Originally posted by Golgo13
Nothing Hal or Superman can do to PC Fate. PC Fate had the strength of PC Superman (Close) and durability. He is a pure energy being sometimes.

Pre Crisis Fate had the strength of Post COIE Superman not pre. He had super strength and invulnerability( except his lungs - he needed to breath) without the helm courtesy of Nabu's alterations to his DNA but he certainly wasn't a planet mover. He carried air liners and such but that's it. He also had nothing above sonic level speed where his physicals were concerned. His magic was IMO slightly behind Classic Strange ( only slightly) but was made up for with his other powers like the physical ones mentioned and his energy manip ( throughout the Golden age he used the power in his atoms or controlled electricity, fire, or any other form of energy around), and his TP and TK ( best feat I can recall was moving a planet into it's sun)

If we take the events of the Grey man saga ( which was post COIE and after the Legends mini series but still Kent before handing over the mantle). Grey man defeated Kent and was then taken telepathically by MMH. So on at least one front there is a way to attack Kent by the JLA

JLA have a distinct speed advantage. Both Superman and WW are faster than Powergirl who based purely on statements is faster than Captain marvel. MMH is also about even with her.

JSA do win but I wouldn't say that fate solos. It would take two of them working well together to take him and likely would for Sentinel as well. The problem is that Whilst Superman will beat CM and WW will beat PG ( as both have before) it wont be before the other two are beaten and they need them to take down the two big honchos of the JSA.

bumping because it deserves at least a little more discussion. It's certainly not the white wash those above believe

The JSA Just Barely win. supes and Hal will give them lots of trouble

Nobody's soloing anything (although a good version of Fate would come the closest). But yeah, Fate and Sentinel make this a clear win.

bump