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In strength. Preboot Superman.

1. Average Thor.
2. All out Thor
3. Average Superman
4. All out Superman.

1. Top Tier
2. Above Top Tier
3. Top Tier
4. Above Top Tier

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
1. Top Tier
2. Above Top Tier
3. Top Tier
4. Above Top Tier

I meant in numbers. Like if Thor is 100 in strength at average level.

1.Top tier
2.Powers of his hammer places him above top tier.
3.top tier.
4.top tier.

Like physical strength or overall power?

Physical Stength
Superman (average/all out) 130/180
Thor (average/all out) 100/140

Thor does not count belt of strength or WM Thor. Non sundipped Superman.

1.95
2.without warrior madness. 95
1.95
2.without sun dip. 95

Thor is better against magical, intangible, obscure enemies
While Superman is better against common opponents.

Thor is more versatile while Superman is faster and yet more simple.
More versatile isn't superior to being more simple IF you are faster with the more simple or the more simple is just as effective.
Superman is weaker against magic and red sun radiation.
Thor is weaker against cutting force and without his hammer (he sometimes drops it after receiving a vicious attack or throws and misses)

In overall formidableness I would rate
Thor = 98
Superman =100

IMO Superman being vastly faster carries more weight than Thor being more versatile and able to battle a wider range of opponents.

Rating:

Thor - Thor level
Superman - more than Thor level


131

My ratings would be

Thor on average: 100

All out Thor:120-130

Superman on average: 130-140

All out Superman: 200+

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Like physical strength or overall power?

Physical Stength
Superman (average/all out) 130/180
Thor (average/all out) 100/140

Thor does not count belt of strength or WM Thor. Non sundipped Superman.
Physical strength.

Nice ratings.

Originally posted by JBL
1.Top tier
2.Powers of his hammer places him above top tier.
3.top tier.
4.top tier. Originally posted by JBL
1.95
2.without warrior madness. 95
1.95
2.without sun dip. 95

1. Average Thor. 130-150
2. All out Thor 200+
3. Average Superman 130-150
4. All out Superman. 200

Originally posted by the Darkone
1. Average Thor. 130-150
2. All out Thor 200+
3. Average Superman 130-150
4. All out Superman. 200 Originally posted by abhilegend

On average, they both strength level. When all out, bloodlusted, pissed off....etc, Superman has more strength.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you are baiting again ? Figured.

Thor is just better at everything.

And so is Silver Surfer - for the record.

Originally posted by Sabro
Thor is just better at everything.

And so is Silver Surfer - for the record.
He is better at being a small god from a small world. Nothing else.

Penisless wishes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
In strength. Preboot Superman.

1. Average Thor.
2. All out Thor
3. Average Superman
4. All out Superman.

I don't think there's an 'all-out' and 'average' Thor in the way there's an 'all out Superman' and 'average Superman'.

As in if, say, Thor confronts somebody like Hulk, then he's generally 'all out' in terms of physical strength, while if he confronts Iron Man, he will always be 'holding back' . Superman, on the other hand, will always hold back his strength, both against Iron Man and Thor, nearly everytime. He has to actively have events trigger his war-numb mode in order for him to fully access his full strength. And at that level, he can one-shot beings that give his 'average all-out mode' a very hard time . Superman's power is regulated by his mindset, and it's subconscious in a very different way that any other heroes.

These are just randoms, and they don't really paint a clear picture, but:

Thor (against Iron Man) - 70
Thor (against Hulk) - 90
Superman (average) - 110
Superman (all-out) - 180

I would rate Thor a 9 and Superman a 7.5. The long blond hair does it for me.

fdog

1. Average Thor
2. All out Thor
3. Average Superman
4. All out Superman

1. 100
2. 150
3. 110
4. 170

So far I'm the most accurate. Supes exhibits a little more str on average and prolly adds a little more going all out.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
1. Average Thor
2. All out Thor
3. Average Superman
4. All out Superman

1. 100
2. 150
3. 110
4. 170

So far I'm the most accurate. Supes exhibits a little more str on average and prolly adds a little more going all out.



Don't flatter yourself. Want to compare feats? Superman is at least 25% stronger than Thor at average levels if not more. Thor hasn't shown so much strength increase upon not holding back.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
1. Average Thor
2. All out Thor
3. Average Superman
4. All out Superman

1. 100
2. 150
3. 110
4. 170

So far I'm the most accurate. Supes exhibits a little more str on average and prolly adds a little more going all out.

These are rankings I could agree to.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
1. Average Thor
2. All out Thor
3. Average Superman
4. All out Superman

1. 100
2. 150
3. 110
4. 170

So far I'm the most accurate. Supes exhibits a little more str on average and prolly adds a little more going all out.



This is just about right.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Don't flatter yourself. Want to compare feats? Superman is at least 25% stronger than Thor at average levels if not more.

Wow...

Jeez.. Don't get so bent out of shape just because of recent showings. I'm sure Supes will add to his library under Pak. Snyder will probably throw him a bone in Superman Unchained as well...

Ure gonna pop a blood vessel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Them's the fighting words digi.

uhuh

I am a straight dude, but Thor is definitely better looking than Superman.

#truth

Originally posted by Digi
I am a straight dude, but Thor is definitely better looking than Superman.

#truth
Nuttin wrong wit dat. More power to ure people!!

You can choose whoever u want to schmooze with Digi! Just give me a 10 mile wide berth..

What disturbs me about this thread is that Superman or Thor going from regular to all out is only a 70% increase in strength apparently

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Wow...

Jeez.. Don't get so bent out of shape just because of recent showings. I'm sure Supes will add to his library under Pak. Snyder will probably throw him a bone in Superman Unchained as well...

Ure gonna pop a blood vessel.

Preboot superman's strength feats shit on anything Thor has done even taking this hyperbolic feat into consideration. You are talking about shattering moons and shit with several strikes? Talk about holding a black hole which would've destroyed the whole solar system in your hand.

Pak's superman would destroy Thor like his hulk did. Thor's a small god after all.Originally posted by Digi
I am a straight dude, but Thor is definitely better looking than Superman.

#truth
Eww...

Lets compare feats, shall we celey?

Originally posted by curryman
What disturbs me about this thread is that Superman or Thor going from regular to all out is only a 70% increase in strength apparently
What do you think?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What do you think?

Couple of hundred percent.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Nuttin wrong wit dat. More power to ure people!!

You can choose whoever u want to schmooze with Digi! Just give me a 10 mile wide berth..

Most of these ratings people are posting are just arbitrary numbers with no real meaning to them.


These numbers, without any context or data corresponding to those ratings, really don't show how large or small of an increase not holding back gives them.

But I think most every one will agree

Superman is slightly stronger than Thor when they are both holding back. When they are both going all out the gap between them is wider but still not significant.

Originally posted by Newjak
Most of these ratings people are posting are just arbitrary numbers with no real meaning to them.


These numbers, without any context or data corresponding to those ratings, really don't show how large or small of an increase not holding back gives them.

But I think most every one will agree

Superman is slightly stronger than Thor when they are both holding back. When they are both going all out the gap between them is wider but still not significant.
Prove it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What do you think?
Ah so we can rehash feats many peeps have seen a million times?

I know how it's gonna end. You're gonna bring up a certain strength feat, interpret it a certain way, then I'd just end up debunking ure interpretation.

I'd rather do that little by little. That's too time consuming.

A scan blitz would just be too annoying.

Enough Thor vs Superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Prove it. By going feat for feat with you?

First off, I wouldn't do that because I've seen how you debate and I don't want anything to do with you in that department. You constantly throw tons of scans ignoring their context and lowball highball argue with characters. Something I don't want a part of.

Secondly this argument has been done to death in every Superman vs Thor thread in existence. And the arguments for both sides have already been made better than you and I could probably do.

The situation has remained the same throughout the years. Thor is top tier in strength because he has some really great feats and writer's are willing to give him that level of strength. Due to the nature of the character's though Superman will always possess more quantity of strength feats and also due to the nature of the character's better strength feats. Which is why most people agree Superman is above but not greatly above.

About the only people who argue against that are fanboys who have wet dreams of their favorite character completely dominating the other in a fictional dick measuring contest of strength.

I'm tired of that.

I'm already considering closing this thread because I feel it's somewhat of a bait thread and probably a duplicate thread knowing how many threads like this have been made before.

I will leave it open for now, but Abhi don't hassle people.

Edit:

I see Bada wasn't in a good mood like I was

Originally posted by Newjak
I see Bada wasn't in a good mood like I was

Leave it open if you want. You put much more thought into your post.durthor

Haha I will keep it open


For now uhuh

Superman's average is def higher than Thor's average.

But Thor's all out is at the very least comparable to Superman's. At the very least.

Dynamic strength in action?

Thor is better at everything.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor is better at everything. Your own words betray you.
Originally posted by carver9
I just seen the movie. You can add the other Avengers including the army the Avengers went against and Superman would beat all of them effortlessly. One of the best movies Ive seen in a long time.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Superman's average is def higher than Thor's average.

But Thor's all out is at the very least comparable to Superman's. At the very least.

Dynamic strength in action?
This

Both going all out are roughly equal, but on average Superman is more inclined to use his strength to overcome obstacles where Thor will use his other abilities...

I think the scariest comment in this thread is carver's (if that quote Bada keeps posting is actually him). It says it's an amazing movie, but the only justification for the opinion is that Superman is more powerful than the Avengers. Carv likely has other things he enjoyed, but the quote itself is somewhat amusing. If that isn't just the vs. forum in a nutshell, I don't know what is.

Originally posted by Digi
I think the scariest comment in this thread is carver's (if that quote Bada keeps posting is actually him). It says it's an amazing movie, but the only justification for the opinion is that Superman is more powerful than the Avengers. Carv likely has other things he enjoyed, but the quote itself is somewhat amusing. If that isn't just the vs. forum in a nutshell, I don't know what is.
True..

lol1

Originally posted by abhilegend
My ratings would be

Thor on average: 100

All out Thor:120-130

Superman on average: 130-140

All out Superman: 200+

Why would you think we care about a superman fanboy who is also a moron?

Originally posted by Digi
I think the scariest comment in this thread is carver's (if that quote Bada keeps posting is actually him). It says it's an amazing movie, but the only justification for the opinion is that Superman is more powerful than the Avengers. Carv likely has other things he enjoyed, but the quote itself is somewhat amusing. If that isn't just the vs. forum in a nutshell, I don't know what is. That's his post from the MvF. Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why would you think we care about a superman fanboy who is also a moron? At least Abhi is replying to the topic of the thread and not bashing. So kindly stop.

lol

Originally posted by abhilegend
You laugh? Then let me put it in simple terms. Thor is class 100 in strength, if he goes all out, that means he will utilize his hammers power at a greater rate using his most powerful blows and blasts. His strength is still class 100 unless he goes into warrior madness.

Superman is class 100. If he goes all out, he will use his speed, range powers and tricks. He is still class 100, he does not get any stronger. He is still in the class of Black Adam and Captain Marvel. Under stress he absorbs more sunlight to replenish his strength to keep him at a certain level, yet as seen on panel, he has been in situations where he was using more energy than his body could replenish, thus he gets tired and weakens. He has to sun-dip to increase his strength as shown in hundreds of cases on panel.He cannot will himself stronger, mental blocks are to keep from killing or hurting far weaker people or humans. Just because you see me in a gym benching 200lbs everyday, then one day see me bench 350, please dont assume that i got stronger, i just used my true strength which is known to people. ( just like we know how strong superman is unless he sun-dip ) We have seen this so-called non-holding back superman or this fabled mental block removed superman in battle against MANY character and he was the same class 100 superman just fighting harder. Going all out and not holding back means you will try and do everything to win, yet your stats do not increase unless you are of course the Hulk.

Every character in comic can go all out and not hold back and appear stronger.My turn to laugh.

LOL

Originally posted by Zack Fair
LOL Whats funny ?

Originally posted by abhilegend
He is better at being a small god from a small world. Nothing else.

Penisless wishes. Hyperbole. Supermans true envy came out when he wielded the hammer.