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Arrange these bricks from strongest to weakest.

-Namor (on land)
-Namor (on water)
-Colossus (pre-cytorrak upgrade)
-Colossunaut
-Abomination (classic)
-Thing
-She-Hulk
-Immortal Hercules
-Wonder Man (classic, pre-ionic body)
-Rhino

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Arrange these bricks from strongest to weakest.

-Namor (on land)
-Namor (on water)
-Colossus (pre-cytorrak upgrade)
-Colossunaut
-Abomination (classic)
-Thing
-She-Hulk
-Immortal Hercules
-Wonder Man (classic, pre-ionic body)
-Rhino

1) Herc
2) Abom
3) Simon














The rest.

Originally posted by zopzop
1) Herc
2) Abom
3) Simon














The rest.

I'd actually put Colossusnaut and Namor (in water) as stronger than classic WM, IMO.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I'd actually put Colossusnaut and Namor (in water) as stronger than classic WM, IMO.
After the whole AvX fiasco, I'm not so sure about that. Has WM ever been humiliated like that? In fact, Thing was sh|tting his pants attempting to lift weights that Classic Simon worked out with.

Originally posted by zopzop
After the whole AvX fiasco, I'm not so sure about that. Has WM ever been humiliated like that? In fact, Thing was sh|tting his pants attempting to lift weights that Classic Simon worked out with.

Yeah, but the whole AvX arc was just stupid.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Yeah, but the whole AvX arc was just stupid.




But it's still canon though And I was actually starting to like Namor too, then he went out like a chump.cry

im not sure were to put namor. Hes pretty freaking strong under water
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Speedd%20Skill/Sub-Mariner37a.jpg

Originally posted by zopzop
After the whole AvX fiasco, I'm not so sure about that. Has WM ever been humiliated like that? In fact, Thing was sh|tting his pants attempting to lift weights that Classic Simon worked out with.
Namor is certainly stronger than simon. Talk about humiliating, this comes into mind first. Smacking Ares with wonder man.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16100197_AvengersInvaders02d.jpg



As for Thing, he defeated Wonder Man too and much decisively than he did to Namor.

As for the thread.

Abomination
Hercules
Colossusnaut
Namor (Wet)
Wonder Man
Namor (Dry)
Thing
She-Hulk
Colossus
Rhino

Originally posted by abhilegend
Namor is certainly stronger than simon. Talk about humiliating, this comes into mind first. Smacking Ares with wonder man.

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16100197_AvengersInvaders02d.jpg


Time travel, is that showing even canon?


Wasn't SImon mind controlled and fighting the influence when Thing clocked him?

Originally posted by abhilegend


As for the thread.

Abomination
Hercules
Colossusnaut
Namor (Wet)
Wonder Man
Namor (Dry)
Thing
She-Hulk
Colossus
Rhino

Pretty close to how I would rank it actually. Would prolly switch out She-hulk and Thing but they're close enough for me to also put Thing over her. Based on "power placement" I'd put Colossnaut over Herc, but "featwise" Herc has far better showings so that's also probably the right way of placing them til C-Naut gets better "feats".

So yeah, I agree with the order.

Colossusnaut
Hercules
Wonder Man
Namor (wet)
Abomination (Hulk was weak back then)
Namor (Dry)
She-Hulk
Colossus
Thing
Rhino

Originally posted by zopzop

Time travel, is that showing even canon?


Wasn't SImon mind controlled and fighting the influence when Thing clocked him?
Yes, its canon.

Does it matter? Thing KTFO simon and Korg oneshotted him. Thing only got a technical win over Namor once he hurt himself swinging a massive fish and has knocked out hulk twice and has battled an enraged hulk for entire issues.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Pretty close to how I would rank it actually. Would prolly switch out She-hulk and Thing but they're close enough for me to also put Thing over her. Based on "power placement" I'd put Colossnaut over Herc, but "featwise" Herc has far better showings so that's also probably the right way of placing them til C-Naut gets better "feats".

So yeah, I agree with the order.
Thing recently showed he was stronger than shulkie. Colossusnaut had his punch effortlessly caught by Rulk. I don't think Rulk is stronger than Herc.

Is this strictly who is physically stronger, or who is the more powerful overall character (one is simply strength, the other incorporates other factors)?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thing recently showed he was stronger than shulkie. Colossusnaut had his punch effortlessly caught by Rulk. I don't think Rulk is stronger than Herc.

When did Thing show this? I've always thought Shulkie got upgraded to Cl100+ already while Thing was still cruising at low Cl100s.

Originally posted by DTM

stronger, pure physical strength.
Is this strictly who is physically stronger, or who is the more powerful overall character (one is simply strength, the other incorporates other factors)?

stronger, pure physical strength.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Arrange these bricks from strongest to weakest.

-Namor (on land)
-Namor (on water)
-Colossus (pre-cytorrak upgrade)
-Colossunaut
-Abomination (classic)
-Thing
-She-Hulk
-Immortal Hercules
-Wonder Man (classic, pre-ionic body)
-Rhino

Immortal Hercules=Colossonaut
Abomination
Namor with wet suit
Wonderman
Colossus
Thing
She Hulk
Rhino

Originally posted by Nibedicus
stronger, pure physical strength.



When did Thing show this? I've always thought Shulkie got upgraded to Cl100+ already while Thing was still cruising at low Cl100s.

She couldn't even lift 85 tons. I think that was a very low showing for her. Outright terrible.

Originally posted by carver9
Immortal Hercules=Colossonaut
Abomination
Namor with wet suit
Wonderman
Colossus
Thing
She Hulk
Rhino

You forgot Namor on land (in his usual fishy-speedos w/o water amp).

Originally posted by Nibedicus
You forgot Namor on land (in his usual fishy-speedos w/o water amp).

Havent seen Namor weakened on land in a looooong time. I think that's classic stuff.

Originally posted by carver9
Havent seen Namor weakened on land in a looooong time. I think that's classic stuff.

S'what I meant. Green speedoes Namor.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
When did Thing show this? I've always thought Shulkie got upgraded to Cl100+ already while Thing was still cruising at low Cl100s.



stronger, pure physical strength.
Just recently.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/FF_2_TheGroup-007.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just recently.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/FF_2_TheGroup-007.jpg

Oh yeah, I remember that. LOL. Horrible showings for She-Hulk right there.

Well, yeah, based on that Thing would be slightly above Shulk. :P

Anyone saying Thing is weaker than She-Hulk or Colossus is out of their mind.


Specially Colossus, he'd have a hard time beating Luke Cage flirt

Colossusnaut
Hercules
Abomination
She-Hulk
Wonder Man
Namor (wet) = Thing
Colossus
Namor (Dry)
Rhino

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, its canon.
It involves time travel no? So it's iffy.


Of course it matters. It's like WW sonning Superman when he was controlled by ML. If he was in his right mind, he'd mop the floor with her and everyone knows this.

Thing straight up said Simon wasn't into it and seemed like he was fighting himself for control.

@Stoic
How the Hell did you place She-Hulk above Wonderman strength wise? Per the OP " stronger, pure physical strength."

Simon has balanced Hydrobase when it was about to teeter off a mountain, Thing was hard pressed to lift Simon's workout dumbells, Simon held a press that was set to 50 thousand tons, etc...

Originally posted by zopzop

It involves time travel no? So it's iffy.


Of course it matters. It's like WW sonning Superman when he was controlled by ML. If he was in his right mind, he'd mop the floor with her and everyone knows this.

Thing straight up said Simon wasn't into it and seemed like he was fighting himself for control.

@Stoic
How the Hell did you place She-Hulk above Wonderman strength wise? Per the OP " stronger, pure physical strength."

Simon has balanced Hydrobase when it was about to teeter off a mountain, Thing was hard pressed to lift Simon's workout dumbells, Simon held a press that was set to 50 thousand tons, etc...


I was going with her best strength feat which was when Jen worked out in human form, and then transformed into the She Hulk. This would actually place her above Hercules as well.

Originally posted by Stoic
I was going with her best strength feat which was when Jen worked out in human form, and then transformed into the She Hulk. This would actually place her above Hercules as well.
That was a one time thing and it's gone now.

Show me her or Colossonaut doing stuff like this :
http://s24.postimg.org/rh52s7mpd/avengers192075xt.jpg http://s11.postimg.org/vst1ta3tb/654037_wm_lifts_hb_2.jpg http://s24.postimg.org/jhr2mabw1/462788_wondythingstrength1cr.jpg

Rulk gave Colossonaut a fight, Simon chocked him out like a little b|tch :
http://s22.postimg.org/lgxkjf3tp/tumblr_mbqis7vm8e1rvm5qqo3_1280.jpg
Sleep punk.

Originally posted by zopzop

It involves time travel no? So it's iffy. It was a young namor who was pulled from the past so it didn't involve an alternate namor. Why is it iffy again?


If by sonning you mean he missed every punch he threw at her because doomsday is a lot bigger than her except one which KTFO her, breaking her bones like twig and her raising a hail mary by slitting his throat by a magical tiara which didn't even made him stop talking and breaking the mind control just after that so that he stopped fighting her, by all means do so. That wasn't a sonning. He did mop the floor with her.

Mindcontrol doesn't lowers durability. It might make one pull his punches. Thing KTFO him.



Namor has lifted Hydro base from the sea bed.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Strength/NamorTheSub-Mariner46a.jpg

Thing is officially weaker than Namor

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Guest%20apps/Strength/FantasticFour103a.jpg

Lifted Utopia for hours

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Strength/xmenvsatlas02a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Strength/xmenvsatlas02b.jpg

His battles with Hercules, Thor and Hulk are far superior to Simon.

Originally posted by zopzop
That was a one time thing and it's gone now.

Show me her or Colossonaut doing stuff like this :
http://s24.postimg.org/rh52s7mpd/avengers192075xt.jpg http://s11.postimg.org/vst1ta3tb/654037_wm_lifts_hb_2.jpg http://s24.postimg.org/jhr2mabw1/462788_wondythingstrength1cr.jpg

Rulk gave Colossonaut a fight, Simon chocked him out like a little b|tch :
http://s22.postimg.org/lgxkjf3tp/tumblr_mbqis7vm8e1rvm5qqo3_1280.jpg
Sleep punk.


Ross has been nerfed 3 times though. Let's see Simon do that to Savage Hulk, and you may have a point.

Originally posted by zopzop
That was a one time thing and it's gone now.

Show me her or Colossonaut doing stuff like this :
http://s24.postimg.org/rh52s7mpd/avengers192075xt.jpg http://s11.postimg.org/vst1ta3tb/654037_wm_lifts_hb_2.jpg http://s24.postimg.org/jhr2mabw1/462788_wondythingstrength1cr.jpg

Rulk gave Colossonaut a fight, Simon chocked him out like a little b|tch :
http://s22.postimg.org/lgxkjf3tp/tumblr_mbqis7vm8e1rvm5qqo3_1280.jpg
Sleep punk.
Then Venom was beating the shit out of him.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16068989/Uncanny_Avengers_009-014.jpg.html

Originally posted by abhilegend
Then Venom was beating the shit out of him.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16068989/Uncanny_Avengers_009-014.jpg.html
Yeah well Venom has a history vs flying bricks :
http://s24.postimg.org/qbdj0208h/1687703_vvs3.jpg http://s15.postimg.org/4ponpif4n/1687730_vvs4.jpg

Regarding the Simon/Thing fight :
http://s11.postimg.org/pw3f127rj/Thingand_Wonderman.jpg
"It's like he ain't used to fighting. Like he ain't in control of his own body."

Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah well Venom has a history vs flying bricks :
http://s24.postimg.org/qbdj0208h/1687703_vvs3.jpg http://s15.postimg.org/4ponpif4n/1687730_vvs4.jpg

Regarding the Simon/Thing fight :
http://s11.postimg.org/pw3f127rj/Thingand_Wonderman.jpg
"It's like he ain't used to fighting. Like he ain't in control of his own body."
Non canon much?

Thing is a heckuva observer, ain't he? Simon was mindcontrolled, of course he wasn't in control of his body dumbass benjy. It still doesn't lowers his durability.

"Like he ain't used to fighting" does mean that though.

Also do you know what happened when Venom got drop on Namor, weakened him with a weapon? Namor ripped his tongue out and beat the **** out of him.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03g.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03h.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03i.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution03j.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution04a.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution04b.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution04c.jpg
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp92/clokeagne_supernova/Namor%20Respect/Namor%20titles/Battles/Revolution04d.jpg

Originally posted by Bentley
"Like he ain't used to fighting" does mean that though.
What? That it lowered his durability?

If you take punches to the head instead of bracing of course your durability is lower.

What the hell did Colossonaut do to be > Hercules in strength?

Originally posted by carver9
Immortal Hercules=Colossonaut
Colossonaut can go into Demon Colossus Mode in a moments notice

So, nothing?

Cool.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So, nothing?

Cool. Demon Colossus would shit stomp Classic herc

Originally posted by googol
Demon Colossus would shit stomp Classic herc

lol

Colossusnaut isn't stronger than Hercules. Come on.