Silver Surfer vs Kyle Rayner

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abhilegend
Kyle before GL: Rebirth. Who has better feats of power? Who would win?

Sh3nG L0nG
Its a toss up, could go either way. I'll pick kyle ftw.

quanchi112
Surfer; hands down in both.

abhilegend
In any case heaven's ladder shits on anything quantifiable surfer has done in case of power.

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
In any case heaven's ladder shits on anything quantifiable surfer has done in case of power. We all get you create these threads to cause problems with anyone who disagrees. Its your m. o. Surfer is on another level than Kyle.

yaadaveyaa
depending on the version of kyle at one point he becomes god (kyle that is) but depending on which arc and when surfer is far superior to kyle before he turns into god it wouldnt b a close fight

h1a8
Didn't kyle have a feat of duplicating himself many times?

Golgo13
Kyle.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Golgo13
Kyle. Why ?

Galan007
Originally posted by abhilegend
In any case heaven's ladder shits on anything quantifiable surfer has done in case of power. What feat is that?

operator616
Originally posted by Galan007
What feat is that?

held more than half a dozen planets in a construct.

Mindset
Kyle

operator616
here are the scans:

http://i.imgur.com/DfUW19d.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oz5OH6Y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7WLLycH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LDybSsz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/c9kQL3J.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XQPKKLz.jpg


it's also the same issue where his famous (and out of context) 'superman oneshotting a 5d imp' comes from.

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by operator616
here are the scans:

http://i.imgur.com/DfUW19d.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oz5OH6Y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7WLLycH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LDybSsz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/c9kQL3J.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XQPKKLz.jpg


it's also the same issue where his famous (and out of context) 'superman oneshotting a 5d imp' comes from.

this is y i said depending on the story arc were using i didnt think we were using this version of kyle? this is a total spite thread if were using him here

Emi~Kiro
Silver surfer is much more well rounded and I think more powerful overall.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Emi~Kiro
Silver surfer is much more well rounded and I think more powerful overall. yep.

Odekahn
Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer; hands down in both.

Based on?

Odekahn
That's right. I went there ^

quanchi112
Originally posted by Odekahn
Based on? His history, general portrayal, application of the power cosmic.

Odekahn
Originally posted by quanchi112
His history, general portrayal, application of the power cosmic.

That's conviently vague. How does he beat Kyle?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Odekahn
That's conviently vague. How does he beat Kyle? Cosmic power and superior durability in a fight.

Odekahn
Originally posted by quanchi112
Cosmic power and superior durability in a fight.

Prove it.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Odekahn
Prove it. I don't have to. You are free to disagree.

Odekahn
Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't have to. You are free to disagree.

I will respectfully disagree.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Odekahn
I will respectfully disagree. That is your right.

Dampyre
Well, the Surfer has already beaten Kyle. He has also shown superior power containment. Oh, and he has a superior power-set. I guess he wins.

Odekahn
Originally posted by Dampyre
Well, the Surfer has already beaten Kyle. He has also shown superior power containment. Oh, and he has s superior power-set. I guess he wins.

That crossover isn't canon.

Dampyre
Originally posted by Odekahn
That crossover isn't canon.

It's something to think about. Twice.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Odekahn
That crossover isn't canon. Do you really believe Kyle is more formidable than the Surfer.

Dampyre
The Surfer is just as versatile, more powerful and has far superior innate strength and durability. Honestly, this is just a bad match-up for Kyle.

Odekahn
Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you really believe Kyle is more formidable than the Surfer.

At Surfer's best AND most agressive, not a chance. But I could see Kyle with some wins. He has the feats to suggest he's capable of such.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Odekahn
At Surfer's best AND most agressive, not a chance. But I could see Kyle with some wins. He has the feats to suggest he's capable of such. I disagree with a few wins but at least you agree this is Surfers.

Odekahn
Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree with a few wins but at least you agree this is Surfers.

Only in a 6/4 kinda way.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Odekahn
Only in a 6/4 kinda way. I see it more like 10/10.

Golgo13
Originally posted by Odekahn
I will respectfully disagree.

thumb up Kyle's stock has increased due to the fact that he has nearly mastered all the emotional energies.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Golgo13
thumb up Kyle's stock has increased due to the fact that he has nearly mastered all the emotional energies. To what levels iyo ?

Odekahn
Originally posted by Golgo13
thumb up Kyle's stock has increased due to the fact that he has nearly mastered all the emotional energies.

This is Pre rebirth Kyle.

Golgo13
Originally posted by Odekahn
This is Pre rebirth Kyle.

He was still quite the beast in the feats department. Even surpassing Hal for a time, IMO.

mighty adam
Kyle for a slight edge. GL Hal and Kyle is just as if not more powerful then Ss.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Galan007
What feat is that?
Held more than 130 planets in orbit.Originally posted by operator616
here are the scans:

http://i.imgur.com/DfUW19d.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oz5OH6Y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7WLLycH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LDybSsz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/c9kQL3J.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XQPKKLz.jpg


it's also the same issue where his famous (and out of context) 'superman oneshotting a 5d imp' comes from.
It was a quantum zealot. Ok. He was still wrecking a 5-D imp.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Dampyre
Well, the Surfer has already beaten Kyle. He has also shown superior power containment. Oh, and he has a superior power-set. I guess he wins.
Non canon and a completely rookie Kyle. Surfer also said he was not sure if he could beat Kyle even at full power.

Originally posted by Dampyre
The Surfer is just as versatile, more powerful and has far superior innate strength and durability. Honestly, this is just a bad match-up for Kyle.

Superior power set? More powerful? Greater Strength? GL ring can do ANYTHING. He has contained a supernova in his hand, surfer has no feats in that class. Kyle also restored Earth's orbit by his hands when it was spiraling out of control, give me a strength feat comparable to that from surfer.

Sh3nG L0nG
Surfer has some uber feats but so do high end GLs. GLs are extremely versatile, powerful & durable, as is surfer. Kyle wins after a good fight.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Kyle also restored Earth's orbit by his hands when it was spiraling out of control, give me a strength feat comparable to that from surfer.
Gud of you to acknowledge that feat, but why are you calling that a strength feat?

embarrasment

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Gud of you to acknowledge that feat, but why are you calling that a strength feat?

embarrasment
What else would you call it? Kyle had it in his hands. Superman, Diana and J'onn were weakened though.

cool

operator616
Originally posted by abhilegend
Held more than 130 planets in orbit.


i count only 7 on panel. 130 is a speculation:

http://i.imgur.com/XQPKKLz.jpg

Lord Feron
According to what superman said and what was shown on panel, kinda looks like kyle just repaired some of the damage parts and held the existing structure together.

abhilegend
Here is Kyle beating Amazo 2000 which had the powers of every superhero on Earth

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16112869_dcu2000secretfiles1p336gb.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16112870_dcu2000secretfiles1p368nd.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16112871_dcu2000secretfiles1p370nr.jpg

Does Surfer has any showing comparable to that?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Lord Feron
According to what superman said and what was shown on panel, kinda looks like kyle just repaired some of the damage parts and held the existing structure together. Exactly. It isn't a strength feat.

abhilegend
Originally posted by operator616
i count only 7 on panel. 130 is a speculation:

http://i.imgur.com/XQPKKLz.jpg
Count again how many planets were in that structure. Atom explicitly says that the tethers were all fading which were keeping the planets together.

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16112940_JLA_Heavens_Ladder_p042.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16112972_JLA_Heavens_Ladder_p057.jpg

abhilegend
Who said Heaven's ladder is a strength feat? Its a power showing.

Naija boy
Surfer

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
Who said Heaven's ladder is a strength feat? Its a power showing. Flip flopper.

MF DELPH
Originally posted by abhilegend
Here is Kyle beating Amazo 2000 which had the powers of every superhero on Earth

http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16112869_dcu2000secretfiles1p336gb.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16112870_dcu2000secretfiles1p368nd.jpg http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t1/16112871_dcu2000secretfiles1p370nr.jpg

Does Surfer has any showing comparable to that?


Surfer beat Mrrungo Mu who had the power of billions of enslaved aliens from thousands of worlds as well as the powers of most of Earth's heroes and villains. On panel Mu absorbed the powers of Thing and Thor iirc , then he put the rest of Earth's superhumans in pins that drained them of their powers and fed their powers to him.

abhilegend
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Surfer beat Mrrungo Mu who had the power of billions of enslaved aliens from thousands of worlds as well as the powers of most of Earth's heroes and villains. On panel Mu absorbed the powers of Thing and Thor iirc , then he put the rest of Earth's superhumans in pins that drained them of their powers and fed their powers to him.
He did that by destroying Mu's power source, not beating him directly. He was getting his ass kicked before that. Nice try though.

Galan007
I've always found this feat to be one of Kyle's best as well...

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_kyle1.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_kyle2.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_kyle3.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_kyle4.jpg

Just for reference, his construct was sufficient to:
a.) Fully encase the moon of earth 2.
b.) Imprison the entire CSA for 48 hours. ie. Not even the infinity-lifting Ultraman, or Owlman(a guy arguably smarter than Batman himself) were able to breach the construct.

You might also note that the CSA's version of Green Lantern had his ring analyze Kyle's construct... The ring stated that it was "impenetrable."

abhilegend
Originally posted by Galan007
I've always found this feat to be one of Kyle's best as well...

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_kyle1.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_kyle2.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_kyle3.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_kyle4.jpg

Just for reference, his construct was sufficient to:
a.) Fully encase the moon of earth 2.
b.) Imprison the entire CSA for 48 hours. ie. Not even the infinity-lifting Ultraman, or Owlman(a guy arguably smarter than Batman himself) were able to breach the construct.

You might also note that the CSA's version of Green Lantern had his ring analyze Kyle's construct... The ring stated that it was "impenetrable."
Yeah, that's an absolutely insane feat. Morrison's Kyle was beastly. Here is the infamous supernova feat

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16113363_dc1M4pg12.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16113364_dc1M4pg13.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16113365_dc1M4pg14.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16113366_dc1M4pg15.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16113367_dc1M4pg16.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16113368_dc1M4pg17.jpg


Celey would probably dismiss this feat because he was failing in the end and had to be helped by Kal Kent.

operator616
id also like to add another impressive feat for kyle:

a light year wide cosmic storm was approaching at half light speed and accelerating, also notice that it destroyed multiple planets:

http://i.imgur.com/545gdkr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/m57aPYf.jpg

and kyle managed to put up a shield to protect himself alongside the platform that he was standing on, while everything else (including the planets) got destroyed


http://i.imgur.com/dZIroO8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/u8lN4Xy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/86CDpL8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/u2Cpr5D.jpg

that issue is from 1999 so it's pre-GL rebirth, in case anyone is wondering.

"Id"
I've always seen GL Kyle vs Surfer as piers.

abhilegend
Originally posted by operator616
id also like to add another impressive feat for kyle:

a light year wide cosmic storm was approaching at half light speed and accelerating, also notice that it destroyed multiple planets:

http://i.imgur.com/545gdkr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/m57aPYf.jpg

and kyle managed to put up a shield to protect himself alongside the platform that he was standing on, while everything else (including the planets) got destroyed


http://i.imgur.com/dZIroO8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/u8lN4Xy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/86CDpL8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/u2Cpr5D.jpg

that issue is from 1999 so it's pre-GL rebirth, in case anyone is wondering.
Green Lantern: New Guardian, isn't it? That's totally insane. Do you have the scans of Kyle absorbing that black hole which was absorbing the sun from GL 167 or something?

quanchi112
Originally posted by "Id"
I've always seen GL Kyle vs Surfer as piers. Don't you mean peers ?

Galan007
Originally posted by abhilegend
Green Lantern: New Guardian, isn't it? That's totally insane. Do you have the scans of Kyle absorbing that black hole which was absorbing the sun from GL 167 or something? You mean when he absorbed The Blind? Here's that:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113568_1.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113569_2.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113570_4.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113571_5.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113572_6.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113573_7.jpg

carver9
Originally posted by quanchi112
Don't you mean peers ?

laughing out loud

quanchi112
Originally posted by carver9
laughing out loud Whats funny is Abhi conveniently refers to these feats as space cheese when its other characters but uses them as the crux of his debate whenever he gets the chance. Self serving debating. Inconsistent.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Galan007
You mean when he absorbed The Blind? Here's that:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113568_1.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113569_2.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113570_4.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113571_5.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113572_6.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113573_7.jpg
Yeah, that. Kyle is THE King of cosmic feats of heralds. In just 11 years no less since Johns neutered him and GLs.

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, that. Kyle is THE King of cosmic feats of heralds. In just 11 years no less since Johns neutered him and GLs. You can't pick and choose what counts and what does not.

carver9
Originally posted by quanchi112
Whats funny is Abhi conveniently refers to these feats as space cheese when its other characters but uses them as the crux of his debate whenever he gets the chance. Self serving debating. Inconsistent.

Wow...I JUST noticed that. Contradictory to its finest.

MF DELPH
Originally posted by abhilegend
He did that by destroying Mu's power source, not beating him directly. He was getting his ass kicked before that. Nice try though.

He had given half of his power to a scientist in order for said scientist to go up to Mu's ship and cut him off the power source. At half power Surfer stood up to Mu, a being that one-shotted Thor, Hulk, Namor, and Colossus, and was said to be in the lower range of the weight class of Galactus. Surfer was being beaten (at half power), but lasted long enough for the scientist to complete the task Surfer had given him, then when he (Surfer) was restored to full power he had Mu on his knees.

That's the full context.

quanchi112
Originally posted by MF DELPH
He had given half of his power to a scientist in order for said scientist to go up to Mu's ship and cut him off the power source. At half power Surfer stood up to Mu, a being that one-shotted Thor, Hulk, Namor, and Colossus, and was said to be in the lower range of the weight class of Galactus. Surfer was being beaten (at half power), but lasted long enough for the scientist to complete the task Surfer had given him, then when he (Surfer) was restored to full power he had Mu on his knees.

That's the full context. thumb up


He always leaves out crucial details.

operator616
Originally posted by abhilegend
Green Lantern: New Guardian, isn't it? That's totally insane. Do you have the scans of Kyle absorbing that black hole which was absorbing the sun from GL 167 or something?

no, it's from green lantern new corps issue 2.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Galan007
I've always found this feat to be one of Kyle's best as well...

http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_kyle1.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_kyle2.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_kyle3.jpg http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv95/galanphotos/th_kyle4.jpg

Just for reference, his construct was sufficient to:
a.) Fully encase the moon of earth 2.
b.) Imprison the entire CSA for 48 hours. ie. Not even the infinity-lifting Ultraman, or Owlman(a guy arguably smarter than Batman himself) were able to breach the construct.

You might also note that the CSA's version of Green Lantern had his ring analyze Kyle's construct... The ring stated that it was "impenetrable."
Beat me to it. Sick feat.

Though I think Surfer still wins.

Oh and Hal > Kyle..

stick out tongue

abhilegend
Originally posted by MF DELPH
He had given half of his power to a scientist in order for said scientist to go up to Mu's ship and cut him off the power source. At half power Surfer stood up to Mu, a being that one-shotted Thor, Hulk, Namor, and Colossus, and was said to be in the lower range of the weight class of Galactus. Surfer was being beaten (at half power), but lasted long enough for the scientist to complete the task Surfer had given him, then when he (Surfer) was restored to full power he had Mu on his knees.

That's the full context.
Read Enslavers again. Here is the scans of the whole fight.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_58.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_59.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_60.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_61.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_62.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_63.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_64.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_65.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_66.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_67.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_68.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_69.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_70.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_71.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_72.jpg

Mu beat Thor by absorbing his power which surfer was immune to somehow despite getting his energy absorbed every few issues back then. He was at half power and was getting his ass kicked and then he got his full power back and destroyed the ship containing his power and that's when he was able to affect him. Nice showing for Surfer's persistence but its not a showing of power.Thing survived hits from Champion and continue to fight while Surfer was in medication after a fight with champion. Doesn't mean much in terms of power.

abhilegend
Originally posted by operator616
no, it's from green lantern new corps issue 2.
Yeah, that comic. Forgot its name.

Stoic
We should all low-ball the shit out of any solid feat to make a good case for the guy that we want to win. OK let's begin... Oh wait

MF DELPH
You realize your scans and your post simply reiterate what I already said, right?

I admit my recollection of the comic isn't perfect as it's been a few years since I've read it, but I specifically remember Mu lulzing at Wolverine trying to slash him and swatting him away, casually laying out She Hulk, Rogue, Colossus, Thing, and I think Power Man with a single backhanded pimp slap that laid the entire group out in one swipe, and then laughing off a full on assault from Hulk and Namor before sonning them as well. Surfer at half power lasted against that same cat's attacks long enough for his other half to engage in an assault on Mu's ship and bring down it's shielding. Then Surfer cut him off from the ship and sonned him. I even said as much in my previous post.

I also disagree that it's not a showing of power. In that sequence Surfer showed himself to be able to endow another being with half of his power. That half Surfer powered Scientist was able to take on Mu's troops, the same troops that were able to take down and capture all of Earth's heroes and villains (among them Dr. Doom, who was depicted being captured and in chains), while Surfer at half power was resilient enough to survive a beating from a being that had the combined power of billions upon billions of aliens and the combined might of Earth's heroes and villains.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, that. Kyle is THE King of cosmic feats of heralds. In just 11 years no less since Johns neutered him and GLs.
This heading for a space cheese feat war?

quanchi112
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
This heading for a space cheese feat war? But when its used for another character its just space cheese which doesn't count.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by quanchi112
But when its used for another character its just space cheese which doesn't count.
Lol..

It's troo.. He does always refute space cheese feats...

carver9
No, he pick and choose when space cheese is usable or not. ABHI still my buddy though.

ODG
Originally posted by Lord Feron
According to what superman said and what was shown on panel, kinda looks like kyle just repaired some of the damage parts and held the existing structure together. There's further context that you might be missing here, Kyle was helping the Mechanics who were also actively rebuilding the Heaven's Ladder structure along with him. Granted, it's easy to miss since the Mechanics were globules of blue energy that looked like they were just floating around doing nothing. But they were indeed powerful, and had actually repaired the Heaven's Ladder structure earlier in the comic on their own.

It's still a gargantuan feat, even while disregarding the possibility that Kyle was tapping into the Ion Power stored in the Sun subconsciously (based on the publishing date). Originally posted by Galan007
You mean when he absorbed The Blind? Here's that:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113568_1.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113569_2.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113570_4.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113571_5.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113572_6.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113573_7.jpg Kyle turned the Blind's power onto itself and absorbed residual energy, not the entire Blind itself. Again, a great feat but sometimes certain details fall through the cracks:

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Random/th_Blind01.jpg

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Stoic
We should all low-ball the shit out of any solid feat to make a good case for the guy that we want to win. OK let's begin... Oh wait

laughing out loud

quanchi112
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lol..

It's troo.. He does always refute space cheese feats... I just don't get how he doesn't get it.

kgkg
Surfer

Golgo13
Originally posted by Galan007
You mean when he absorbed The Blind? Here's that:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113568_1.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113569_2.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113570_4.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113571_5.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113572_6.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16113573_7.jpg

Damn. Kyle is the best minus pre crisis Hal.

JakeTheBank
Nope, Guy.

Golgo13
kyle is what guy wants to be when he grows up.

JakeTheBank
Why would Guy want to regress?

Mindset
Originally posted by Golgo13
kyle is what guy wants to be when he grows up. thumb up

ODG
Originally posted by Golgo13
kyle is what guy wants to be when he grows up. http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/More%20Random/GuyGardner03.jpg

iscaremonkeys
Kyle. because he is a green freaking lantern

quanchi112
Originally posted by Golgo13
Damn. Kyle is the best minus pre crisis Hal. Nope.

Golgo13
Originally posted by ODG
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/More%20Random/GuyGardner03.jpg

That's the look of Guy when he finds out he'll never be as good as Kyle. Not even half of Kyle. wink

quanchi112
Originally posted by Golgo13
That's the look of Guy when he finds out he'll never be as good as Kyle. Not even half of Kyle. wink Both stink compared to Hal.

Golgo13
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why would Guy want to regress?

Kyle> Guy. Deal with it. stick out tongue

Sh3nG L0nG
Originally posted by quanchi112
Both stink compared to Hal.

Kyle>>>>Hal mad

quanchi112
Originally posted by Sh3nG L0nG
Kyle>>>>Hal mad Dc sides with me.

ODG
Originally posted by Golgo13
That's the look of Guy when he finds out he'll never be as good as Kyle. Not even half of Kyle. wink http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Even%20More%20Random/Phail18.jpg

JakeTheBank
Guy's "Wolverines!" moment in SCW was bar none one of my favorite moments ever.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Stoic
We should all low-ball the shit out of any solid feat to make a good case for the guy that we want to win. OK let's begin... Oh wait
Lowballing would be this

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_07.jpg

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Marvel/ss_enslavers_08.jpg

That's from the same comic btw.

Galactus class meteors ftw.thumb up

That was not I was doing.Originally posted by MF DELPH
You realize your scans and your post simply reiterate what I already said, right?

I admit my recollection of the comic isn't perfect as it's been a few years since I've read it, but I specifically remember Mu lulzing at Wolverine trying to slash him and swatting him away, casually laying out She Hulk, Rogue, Colossus, Thing, and I think Power Man with a single backhanded pimp slap that laid the entire group out in one swipe, and then laughing off a full on assault from Hulk and Namor before sonning them as well. Surfer at half power lasted against that same cat's attacks long enough for his other half to engage in an assault on Mu's ship and bring down it's shielding. Then Surfer cut him off from the ship and sonned him. I even said as much in my previous post.

I also disagree that it's not a showing of power. In that sequence Surfer showed himself to be able to endow another being with half of his power. That half Surfer powered Scientist was able to take on Mu's troops, the same troops that were able to take down and capture all of Earth's heroes and villains (among them Dr. Doom, who was depicted being captured and in chains), while Surfer at half power was resilient enough to survive a beating from a being that had the combined power of billions upon billions of aliens and the combined might of Earth's heroes and villains.
Not what you're saying. Surfer stood up to Mu mostly because Mu's MO i.e absorbing other's energies failed to work on him. BTW having your ass kicked isn't a showing of power, it never is otherwise Sodam Yat wouldn't be the joke he is. Surfer stood up despite Mu cracking up his skin and other shit like that. Good for his stubbornness.

Now you're counting up that scientist taking upon Fodder troops too? Where did they capture Earth's heroes by their own?Originally posted by celeyhyga17
This heading for a space cheese feat war?
Why not? Surfer fans love to do it.

quanchi112
Space cheese doesn't count when you want it too. Be consistent.

Golgo13
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Guy's "Wolverines!" moment in SCW was bar none one of my favorite moments ever.

Which one was that?

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Golgo13
Which one was that?

http://i40.tinypic.com/2i6djsw.jpg

Golgo13
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
http://i40.tinypic.com/2i6djsw.jpg

LOL! I don't even remember that. Did you see Guy's triumph against Atrocitus?

JakeTheBank
I did, yeah.

Guy's phucking boss.

abhilegend
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Mindset
I'm not seeing any outcome where Kyle doesn't oneshot him.

ODG
Originally posted by Mindset
I'm not seeing any outcome where Kyle doesn't oneshot him. http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Even%20More%20Random/Phail27.jpg

Odekahn
Originally posted by Golgo13
He was still quite the beast in the feats department. Even surpassing Hal for a time, IMO.

True.

Odekahn
Oh and Hal is the greatest gl

quanchi112
Originally posted by Odekahn
Oh and Hal is the greatest gl Everyone knows that deep down even mindset.

Golgo13
Originally posted by Odekahn
Oh and Hal is the greatest gl

Well, in the last issue of GL NG, Hal even doubted himself whether or not he could stop Kyle as a WL. So, it seems Kyle has surpassed him again.

"Id"
Originally posted by Golgo13
Well, in the last issue of GL NG, Hal even doubted himself whether or not he could stop Kyle as a WL. So, it seems Kyle has surpassed him again.

True.

But Hal seems to edge out Kyle if it becomes a battle using strictly Green Power Rings.

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thing survived hits from Champion and continue to fight while Surfer was in medication after a fight with champion. Doesn't mean much in terms of power.
Champion was actively using the Power Gem in that She-Hulk issue where he put the Surfer in medical treatment post-fight. Against Ben, he wasn't even wearing the thing, let alone using it.

I understand that you have a seething hatred of Surfer for some unknown reason, but this out-of-context claim, coupled with that Mexican showing, is just downright sad.

abhilegend
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Champion was actively using the Power Gem in that She-Hulk issue where he put the Surfer in medical treatment post-fight. Against Ben, he wasn't even wearing the thing, let alone using it.

I understand that you have a seething hatred of Surfer for some unknown reason, but this out-of-context claim, coupled with that Mexican showing, is just downright sad.
Champion was wearing the Gem against Thing. You are confusing Thing showing with She-Hulk showing where she ****ed his shit up.

I didn't show any mexican showing. I showed Surfer getting KTFO by meteors in the same comic where he fought Murringo-Mu. What are you talking about?

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by abhilegend
Champion was wearing the Gem against Thing. You are confusing Thing showing with She-Hulk showing where she ****ed his shit up.
Yup, he's clearly wearing the gem in this scene:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m2rOU-5WfOo/UKD0w7L-E-I/AAAAAAAAC8c/47wKik_GLrk/s640/Hero-Envy-Thing+-vs-Champion1.jpg
or here:
http://theshortbox.com/files/2010/09/842913-champion1_super.png

You're just straight-up lying now.

Edit: Also, She-Hulk was amped when she fought the gem-less Champion.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I didn't show any mexican showing. I showed Surfer getting KTFO by meteors in the same comic where he fought Murringo-Mu. What are you talking about?
That was in reference to the past times when you have mentioned it as a legit low showing, conveniently omitting the context.

abhilegend
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Yup, he's clearly wearing the gem in this scene:

or here:


You're just straight-up lying now.

Edit: Also, She-Hulk was amped when she fought the gem-less Champion.

That was in reference to the past times when you have mentioned it as a legit low showing, conveniently omitting the context.
Wait, you are saying that Champion didn't have the gem at any point in Marvel Two in One Annual 7? Are you kidding me? He was shown as that in the whole comic. Doesn't means he didn't have the gem on him which was stated to be on them since the Elders found it millenia ago and which attributed to his strength ever since. You are straight up ass pulling now.

She worked out and beat his ass. That's not an outside amp. Its like saying Hulk is amped once he starts getting stronger.

So you are using past times of me joking around as me lowballing surfer which has no bearing upon this discussion and can't even distinguish between two images? Desperate to accuse me much?

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by abhilegend
He wasn't stated to remove the gem anywhere in the fight. He was shown as that in the whole comic.

She worked out and beat his ass. That's not an outside amp. Its like saying Hulk is amped once he starts getting stronger.

So you are using past times of me joking around as me lowballing surfer which has no bearing upon this discussion and can't even distinguish between two images? Desperate to accuse me much?
He wasn't shown to wear the gem anywhere in the comic either. What's your point?

The point is she was clearly operating on a level of power exponentially beyond her normal strength levels. In later comics, it was even alluded to that she'd reached Hulk's level. Anyways, had Champion not been wearing the gem, anyone among Surfer, Gladiator or BRB could have beat his ass faster than Shulkie did.

You weren't joking around when you presented it as a legit low showing here:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=575822&pagenumber=3#post14197327

carver9
Some people do say that Hulk is amped when he gets angry. Some people said he was amped against Onslaught.

abhilegend
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
He wasn't shown to wear the gem anywhere in the comic either. What's your point?

The point is she was clearly operating on a level of power exponentially beyond her normal strength levels. In later comics, it was even alluded to that she'd reached Hulk's level. Anyways, had Champion not been wearing the gem, anyone among Surfer, Gladiator or BRB could have beat his ass faster than Shulkie did.

You weren't joking around when you presented it as a legit low showing here:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=575822&pagenumber=3#post14197327
That was retconned in Thanos quest when it was stated that all the Elders were using the gems since they got them millenia ago. Take it as well as you want.

So her normal levels since she has been said to be near hulk level several times before that. She doesn't get as strong when she got as angry though.

Thor didn't actually beat Champion who according to you wasn't wearing the gem.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4770/vsheroesig6.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4811/vsheroes2lo5.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9382/marveltwoinoneannual072qi9.jpg
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/9648/marveltwoinoneannual072ky3.jpg

I know Champion without his gem is a joke.

facepalm

That was just an example and that was the first thing that came to my mind at that time. I even said that it was PIS in the same reply.

abhilegend
Ok, I checked back and Champion didn't have the power gem in his fight vs earth's heroes in TIO annual. He got it in SS v3 18. My bad. Godkiller is right about that.

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by abhilegend
Ok, I checked back and Champion didn't have the power gem in his fight vs earth's heroes in TIO annual. He got it in SS v3 18. My bad. Godkiller is right about that.
You should have just agreed with me from the get go. There would have been no need to go to all the effort to confirm what was obvious: Surfer fought a more powerful Champion than Ben did.

abhilegend
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You should have just agreed with me from the get go. There would have been no need to go to all the effort to confirm what was obvious: Surfer fought a more powerful Champion than Ben did.
I would agree to what is true and I found it true so I agreed with you. You are still wrong about the mexicans/meteors though.

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
Ok, I checked back and Champion didn't have the power gem in his fight vs earth's heroes in TIO annual. He got it in SS v3 18. My bad. Godkiller is right about that. laughing out loud

MF DELPH
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not what you're saying. Surfer stood up to Mu mostly because Mu's MO i.e absorbing other's energies failed to work on him. BTW having your ass kicked isn't a showing of power, it never is otherwise Sodam Yat wouldn't be the joke he is. Surfer stood up despite Mu cracking up his skin and other shit like that. Good for his stubbornness.

Now you're counting up that scientist taking upon Fodder troops too? Where did they capture Earth's heroes by their own?
Why not? Surfer fans love to do it.

Smh...

You've got to be the most disingenuous poster here next to Quan. You clearly have this comic in your possession, have the nerve to say I need to re-read it, and then ask where Mu's soldiers captured Earth's heroes by their own? It's on pages 19-21 just after Surfer's encounter with Reed, which you know because you posted the pages just before it occurred where Surfer is having mental issues and crashes into the meteor storm (in an attempt to again low ball Surfer) then crash lands into Reed's house.

Here:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-075_zps402be1a0.jpg - Troop teleports into Reed's house and captures Reed.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-076_zpsc25983e0.jpg - Splash page depicting Namor, Dr. Doom, Spider-Man, Colossus, Klaw, Human Torch, etc, being captured by individual members of Mu's trooper brigade.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-077_zps0d472fd6.jpg - Page showing all of the heroes and villains the troopers captured in chains being led to Mu on his ship, among them Thor, Hulk, Thing, and She Hulk.

Those "fodder troops" individually took down every Marvel heavy hitter except Surfer.

Golgo13
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Smh...

You've got to be the most disingenuous poster here next to Quan. You clearly have this comic in your possession, have the nerve to say I need to re-read it, and then ask where Mu's soldiers captured Earth's heroes by their own? It's on pages 19-21 just after Surfer's encounter with Reed, which you know because you posted the pages just before it occurred where Surfer is having mental issues and crashes into the meteor storm (in an attempt to again low ball Surfer) then crash lands into Reed's house.

Here:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-075_zps402be1a0.jpg - Troop teleports into Reed's house and captures Reed.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-076_zpsc25983e0.jpg - Splash page depicting Namor, Dr. Doom, Spider-Man, Colossus, Klaw, Human Torch, etc, being captured by individual members of Mu's trooper brigade.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-077_zps0d472fd6.jpg - Page showing all of the heroes and villains the troopers captured in chains being led to Mu on his ship, among them Thor, Hulk, Thing, and She Hulk.

Those "fodder troops" individually took down every Marvel heavy hitter except Surfer.

At least Abhi admitted he was wrong.

janus77
Originally posted by Golgo13
At least Abhi admitted he was wrong.
yeah but he's consistently wrong and inconsistently honest.

JakeTheBank
lol

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by janus77
yeah but he's consistently wrong and inconsistently honest.

laughing out loud

celeyhyga17
Shiet just got serious.

Golgo13
uh oh! eek!

abhilegend
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Smh...

You've got to be the most disingenuous poster here next to Quan. You clearly have this comic in your possession, have the nerve to say I need to re-read it, and then ask where Mu's soldiers captured Earth's heroes by their own? It's on pages 19-21 just after Surfer's encounter with Reed, which you know because you posted the pages just before it occurred where Surfer is having mental issues and crashes into the meteor storm (in an attempt to again low ball Surfer) then crash lands into Reed's house.

Here:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-075_zps402be1a0.jpg - Troop teleports into Reed's house and captures Reed.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-076_zpsc25983e0.jpg - Splash page depicting Namor, Dr. Doom, Spider-Man, Colossus, Klaw, Human Torch, etc, being captured by individual members of Mu's trooper brigade.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-077_zps0d472fd6.jpg - Page showing all of the heroes and villains the troopers captured in chains being led to Mu on his ship, among them Thor, Hulk, Thing, and She Hulk.

Those "fodder troops" individually took down every Marvel heavy hitter except Surfer.
No, I don't have the comic atm. I had it before my laptop crashed and I uploaded those scans. Also a huge LAWL @ calling me disingenuous. I was asking about where did they capture the heroes of earth. Lets see how much of truth you are telling here. The scientist defeated no drones of Mrrungu. He destroyed their communication system, fired a blast at a drone which didn't even connect, caused a diversion by releasing some animals and died breaking the forcefield around the power plant.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16122529_ss_enslavers_61.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16122531_ss_enslavers_63.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16122533_ss_enslavers_65.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16122534_ss_enslavers_66.jpg

That's all he did. So this is all together false.



Now shall we see how much punishment surfer took, shall we?

Surfer attacks and it is as futile as if a mosquito bites Mrrungo, he laughs and fires a blast from his finger, tries to absorb surfer's power and fails, surfer gets free due to Mu's distraction and gets oneshotted for all his trouble. It was said "Surfer was all but destroyed by that one attack".

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16122527_ss_enslavers_59.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16122530_ss_enslavers_62.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16122532_ss_enslavers_64.jpg http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16122534_ss_enslavers_66.jpg

Nice way to endure, isn't it delph? Surfer gets his power back, surprises Mu and destroy the power source of Mu.

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16122535_ss_enslavers_67.jpg

That's the end of your "all the powers of earth's heroes" Mrrungo-Mu. Conclusion? Surfer at half his power got nearly killed by a single attack and at full power defeated a powerless Mrrungo-Mu. Quite disingenuous of you to compare this to Kyle straight up defeating Amazo 2000, isn't it? Well you are quan's partner after all, you would know about it all. Also a huge lulz @ this herd trailing after me.

abhilegend
Originally posted by janus77
yeah but he's consistently wrong and inconsistently honest.
Compared to surfer fanboys like you? Haha.

janus77
Originally posted by abhilegend
Compared to surfer fanboys like you? Haha.
compared to base-level kmc even.

Surfer doesn't need the help... It's self-evident that Surfer beats Superman.

abhilegend
Originally posted by janus77
compared to base-level kmc even.

Surfer doesn't need the help... It's self-evident that Surfer beats Superman.
That's surfer fanboys. No wonder they went extinct.

Like he beat Cyborg Superman, a clear inferior to superman, right? Or that puny god who caves his head in every time?

janus77
Surfer >> Oan Central Battery.

If Surfer wills it, Superman is dead.

MF DELPH
Yes, it is a nice way to endure. If you'd take your Kryptonite tinted glasses off for a moment you'd be able to see that feat for what it really is rather than attempting to spin it. Mrrungo Mu had the power of billions upon billions of aliens and all of Earth's heroes/villains being channeled into him. He was a very high end cosmic and one-shotted a gathering of cl 100 characters with a single backhand. -

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-079_zps69b60439.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-080_zps99ff568b.jpg

Thor, Doc Samson, Thing, Colossus, She Hulk, and Rogue all one shotted with a simple pimp slap. The only members of that assemblage left standing were Namor and Hulk, and they immediately were sonned as well.

Surfer gave away half of his power to the Scientist and traded several blows with Mu, the same Mu that casual laid out that entire ensemblage with a slap as depicted above. You continue to be disingenuous because you're mischaracterizing what I said as well as the situation that occurred on panel in your neverending quest to downplay Marvel character's feats. Here's my original posts:

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Surfer beat Mrrungo Mu who had the power of billions of enslaved aliens from thousands of worlds as well as the powers of most of Earth's heroes and villains. On panel Mu absorbed the powers of Thing and Thor iirc , then he put the rest of Earth's superhumans in pins that drained them of their powers and fed their powers to him.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
He had given half of his power to a scientist in order for said scientist to go up to Mu's ship and cut him off the power source. At half power Surfer stood up to Mu, a being that one-shotted Thor, Hulk, Namor, and Colossus, and was said to be in the lower range of the weight class of Galactus. Surfer was being beaten (at half power), but lasted long enough for the scientist to complete the task Surfer had given him, then when he (Surfer) was restored to full power he had Mu on his knees.

That's the full context.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
You realize your scans and your post simply reiterate what I already said, right?

I admit my recollection of the comic isn't perfect as it's been a few years since I've read it, but I specifically remember Mu lulzing at Wolverine trying to slash him and swatting him away, casually laying out She Hulk, Rogue, Colossus, Thing, and I think Power Man with a single backhanded pimp slap that laid the entire group out in one swipe, and then laughing off a full on assault from Hulk and Namor before sonning them as well. Surfer at half power lasted against that same cat's attacks long enough for his other half to engage in an assault on Mu's ship and bring down it's shielding. Then Surfer cut him off from the ship and sonned him. I even said as much in my previous post.

I also disagree that it's not a showing of power. In that sequence Surfer showed himself to be able to endow another being with half of his power. That half Surfer powered Scientist was able to take on Mu's troops, the same troops that were able to take down and capture all of Earth's heroes and villains (among them Dr. Doom, who was depicted being captured and in chains), while Surfer at half power was resilient enough to survive a beating from a being that had the combined power of billions upon billions of aliens and the combined might of Earth's heroes and villains.

Everything I stated is depicted in the comic. The half powered Surfer Scientist went on an assault of Mu's ship to cut Mu off from his power source (pg 59 and 61), as I stated in my 2nd post, and Surfer at half power stood up to Mu, a being that had casually one-shotted a group of cl 100s, long enough for the scientist to complete his mission, as depicted in the comic. The troops on Mu's ship were capable of one-shotting all of Earth's heroes themselves as depicted in the splash page on page 20 which I posted.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-115_zps0b3cc484.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-117_zpsa0244305.jpg

Pages 59 and 61 show this. While the art does not depict a protracted battle (as it show's Surfer Scientist swiftly moving through the battlefied to his objective) it was shown in this comic that those troopers were capable of downing all of Surfer's peers effortlessly. The first and second panel of page 61 show the half powered Scientist taking the offensive on the troops, and the second panel even shows one of the troopers being taken out by the Scientists blast (in the background of the trooper firing on the Scientist, and the Scientist not being downed by the blast like all of Surfer's peers were, while at half power).

This isn't an issue of differing interpretation, this is an issue with your very apparent, and hence disingenuous, agenda. It's really sad.

abhilegend
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Yes, it is a nice way to endure. If you'd take your Kryptonite tinted glasses off for a moment you'd be able to see that feat for what it really is rather than attempting to spin it. Mrrungo Mu had the power of billions upon billions of aliens and all of Earth's heroes/villains being channeled into him. He was a very high end cosmic and one-shotted a gathering of cl 100 characters with a single backhand. -

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-079_zps69b60439.jpg
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-080_zps99ff568b.jpg Surfer also got oneshotted and was near death. Oneshotted=/=oneshotted and being near death. Nice logic delph.

Thor wasn't there. Look again or go see a good doctor. Post the whole fight since I don't have the comic atm.

Blatant lie. You are either blind or aren't looking hard enough. Surfer didn't trade any blow with Mu. He survived the blast from a finger and then got oneshotted. Haha, this is the most ironic post ever. You are a self admitted Superman hater and now you're accusing me of downplaying marvel character when you do that to superman every chance you get. I am not downplaying surfer btw. I read them just fine. Thank you.







Again lying despite all the evidence in front of you. The scientist never engaged any of Mu's troop in battle and Surfer got oneshotted.

Those are not Mu's troops. Those are just random crews of Mu's ship. The scientist only fires a blast at a troop here and it misses. Then he uses a diversion to reach the forcefield

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16122531/ss_enslavers_63.jpg.html

That was not a troop, it was a crew of Mu's ship who was jumping down from the point where the scientist's attack impacted and he dodges the ray unless you think it ripped his thigh apart and strikes at the other way.

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16123413_lolatdelph.jpg

Very rich coming from you. I would recommend a good doctor for your eyes if you are not seeing properly.

MF DELPH
Smh...

Yeah, this conversation is over. Thank you Abhi.

For the benefit of those who don't have this comic in their possession and can honestly read it's contents without a company vs company agenda, here:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/...zps69b60439.jpg - Assemblage of the class 100s led to Mu after being captured. Thor is clearly shown in panels 1 (in shackles, standing next to She Hulk), 4 (again in shackles standing next to She Hulk on her left), and 5 (Thor's shown pushing his way in front of Hulk to engage Mu).
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/...zps99ff568b.jpg - After Wolverine gets humiliated in is jumping slash attempt the remaining class 100s dogpile Mu from all directions. Mu lays them all out with one epic pimp slap. Now note, there appears to be an editorial mistake in the artwork in this sequence. If you look closely at the page it appears that Namor is among the group of Class 100s that are laid out by the backhand in panel 5. However, on the very next page:
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-081_zpsfacc32cf.jpg - You can see the entire assembled group laid out on the floor from the slap except for Namor and Hulk, and Namor is depicted to have been standing back from the engagement group which was laid out by the slap with Hulk. Namor even comments "He felled them with a casual backhand blow". This sequence can be interpreted as:

A) Namor was the only member of the group that jumped Mu and was unfazed by the slap unlike his peers, and the slap somehow placed him back at Hulk's position.
B) A mistake was made in the art. Namor was shown in the group rather than Thor, though after the slap from Mu Thor is apparently among the group of people lying on the floor since Namor and Hulk are the only people left standing.
C) Namor was in two places at once and Thor didn't enter the fight at all.

My position is B, but it's open to interpretation.

Mu Vs. Surfer:

The fight between Mu and Surfer is intermixed with cut aways to the Scientist Surfer (Earl Weygand) which Surfer gives half of his power to in order for the scientist to go up to Mu's ship and cut Mu off from his power source. Here's the entire sequence unedited and uncropped:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-110_zpse7c8bf94.jpg - Surfer takes out troopers in Mu's ballroom
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-111_zpsade734a5.jpg - Mu challenges Surfer to single's combat. Surfer here uses his cosmic awareness to seek out someone to help him with his plan. Mu thinks he's mentally prepping for battle.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-112_zps6012fda5.jpg - Surfer channels half of his power into Earl Weygand, the Scientist who originally made contact with Mu and went on TV saying to welcome the aliens.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-113_zps63989761.jpg - Surfer (now at half power) blasts Mu to zero effect. Mu laughs it off and blasts Surfer away with his pinky, sending him careening through several buildings. Note that Surfer, at half power, was not one-shotted by Mu.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-114_zpsc1a2b57f.jpg - Surfer on the ground after Mu's blast saying the more Mu gloats the more time he buys for the Scientist to carry out his plan. On this page we see Weygand transform into the Surfer as Surfer telepathically clues him in on his plan.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-115_zps1bc79a31.jpg - The Scientist attacks Mu's ship. Mu's crew believe he is running for his life from Mu and arrogantly believe they can take him and drop their shields to fire on him, which turns out to be a mistake.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-116_zpsb4566244.jpg - Scene cuts back to Surfer. fighting Mu. Surfer blasts and charges Mu to no effect. Mu grabs Surfer and attempts to absorb the Power Cosmic.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-117_zpsd168180e.jpg - Scene cuts back to Scientist fighting past Mu's troops to make his way to the generators.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-118_zpsca43cbfb.jpg - Mu realizes he can't absorb Surfer's power. Surfer breaks free from Mu's grasp but Mu blasts the shit out of him breaking Surfer's board and cracking his shell as well as sending Surfer flying across the city. Mu celebrates thinking he can drop the mic on this one.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-119_zps3a60ba7b.jpg - Scientist arrives at the generators but doesn't have enough juice to bring the shield down. He decides to sacrifice himself to bring the thing down and dives into the barrier.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-120_zps6e7dbd49.jpg - The energy leave the scientist as pile of ash but it shorts out the barrier. Mu stands over Surfer who appears to be leaking Power Cosmic from the cracks in his silver skin. Mu moves in for the kill.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-121_zps975b617b.jpg - The power Surfer has given to Weygand returns to him. Back at full power Surfer fires a blast at Mu's ship damaging his generator. It's Morphin' Time.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-122_zps4d8fe922.jpg - On the ship Mu's crew is in utter chaos from all the damage the Scientist and Surfer have caused. The generators are offline.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-123_zpsfc082f8d.jpg - Mu's pissed. Surfer engages Mu with the power being fed to him cut off. Mu remarks that even without the power of a billion billion slaves I'm still master of all and knocks Surfer back.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-124_zpsb454c316.jpg - Shalla Bal is afraid because even without his Django Unchained slave master powers Mrrungo Mu is still a planet buster. Mu says that while Galactus gave Surfer power Mu was born with his power and no man is his equal (usual villain bragging). The two trade blasts and blows, then go all out in the last panel.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-125_zpsac663fc8.jpg - Mu is eventually overwhelmed for the first time ever and can't believe it. Surfer drops him.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-126_zps4433d9c0.jpg - Surfer is about to kill Mu but Mu's bottom chick (who Surfer smashed in this story, btw) begs for mercy.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-127_zpsad49f888.jpg - Surfer calms down and hugs Shalla Bal
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-128_zps1ff41fb3.jpg - Surfer uses the power cosmic to repair all the damage on Planet Earth caused by the Enslaver invasion.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-129_zps1053143b.jpg - Surfer is met by all of the Earth's heroes whose asses he just saved.

Fin.

TheGodKiller
^This reminds me of that thread in which Galan pwned the sh1t out of abhi, and everyone subsequently ganged up on the guy out of pure, unadulterated malice.

Nibedicus
Never read this issue of Surfer before.

Holy cow, crazy ass "feats".

-Pr-
Surfer.

Nibedicus
Also, didn't he forge an entire fleet of ships from the worldship with his matter manip at the end? Saw a scan online but I couldn't make out the blurry words.

One thing I gotta say about the Surfer, lame -@$$ characterization (IMO) but ridic powerset.

abhilegend
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Smh...

Yeah, this conversation is over. Thank you Abhi. Of course, post a lot of scans and think nobody would check them out and declare yourself the winner. Hurray for delph, I guess.

Haha.

These two links are broken. Thanks for nothing.
Namor might be misplaced but that doesn't mean thor was there too. Thor wasn't shown anywhere in the group lying down too.

I posted them unedited and uncropped. Without commentary though.

For the last ****ing time, this was a troop of Mu

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16125336_Untitled.jpg

Surfer only engaged Mu's ship crew. Honestly?

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16125305_facepalmatdelph.jpg

Seriously? Mu was obviously channeling all his power in that pinky shot, wasn't he? This is getting laughable.
Again that was only one troop and his blast actually missed the scientist. You missed the diversion though, typical.
You know, you are just iterating what I said, right?
This of course is no part of the discussion we had i.e, Amazo 2000 and the powers of all the heroes of earth. Surfer beat a powerless Murrongo-Mu who was close to him in power and who was supposedly a planet buster by lip service, all fine and dandy. Doesn't mean squat here in this discussion. Kyle's feat was flat out superior and you even comparing this to that feat is laughable. You wouldn't admit it though. So long delph, check out that eye soon.

abhilegend
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^This reminds me of that thread in which Galan pwned the sh1t out of abhi, and everyone subsequently ganged up on the guy out of pure, unadulterated malice.
facepalm

Nibedicus
Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm

Yesss yessss! Cover your face in shammmmeee, Abhi!!! shifty


stick out tongue

abhilegend
Originally posted by janus77
Surfer >> Oan Central Battery.

If Surfer wills it, Superman is dead.
That's why he nearly died absorbing a minuscule amount of solar energy from earth's sun, right?

Superman wills and surfer would be erased from existence itself. Hulk too.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Yesss yessss! Cover your face in shammmmeee, Abhi!!! shifty


stick out tongue
That's you nabisco.

uhuh







stick out tongue

Nibedicus
Well, at least you didn't ignore me this time...

Me being ignored makes me a sad puppy. sad sad

Edit. Haha, I actually came up with an evil nickname for you, but I'll be keeping it to myself. evil face

MF DELPH
:

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-079_zps69b60439.jpg - Assemblage of the class 100s led to Mu after being captured. Thor is clearly shown in panels 1 (in shackles, standing next to She Hulk), 4 (again in shackles standing next to She Hulk on her left), and 5 (Thor's shown pushing his way in front of Hulk to engage Mu).

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w313/illadelph12_prime/SSP-080_zps99ff568b.jpg - After Wolverine gets humiliated in is jumping slash attempt the remaining class 100s dogpile Mu from all directions. Mu lays them all out with one epic pimp slap. Now note, there appears to be an editorial mistake in the artwork in this sequence. If you look closely at the page it appears that Namor is among the group of Class 100s that are laid out by the backhand in panel 5. However, on the very next page:

^ Those pages precede Namor and Hulk engaging Mu. Thor is depicted in the group.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Well, at least you didn't ignore me this time...

Me being ignored makes me a sad puppy. sad sad

Edit. Haha, I actually came up with an evil nickname for you, but I'll be keeping it to myself. evil face
fear

guy222
Norrin

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