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Robtard
Police handcuff man for filming them; then shoot his dog.

http://karnythia.tumblr.com/post/54467108301/blu-thoth-big-****ing-graphic-content

Lestov16
To protect and serve.

Darth Jello
If a few pigs can do this to a dog, they'll do it to a person. Cops need to be held to a higher standard. These three sociopaths need to be kept out of positions of authority and away from weapons (well, that's true of all sociopaths). Confiscate all their money and property and toss em into a private prison for 20 years. It's what they deserve. I've said that the punishment for police brutality should be death by firing squad, killing an animal that was guarding his owner who the pigs illegally started shit with in the first place need a harsh and proportional punishment.

Nephthys
The guy was scared the dog was going to attack them. It looked like it was trying to bite his hand before he shot it. He wasn't a sociopath, he clearly just panicked.

Major_Lexington
maybe they thought it was Dorner's ghost.......... FFS.

Darth Jello
Maybe they should try firing in the air or better yet, not provoke a dog by illegally arresting and detaining the owner. It's California. Eavesdropping laws do not apply to police activity as long as you don't interfere with the police.
This just another example of an epidemic of police shooting animals, specifically pets and strays for kicks. In my state a couple of pigs are facing possible poaching charges for purposely provoking and then shooting wild elk with their sidearms...in residential neighborhoods. I mean if you're a officer of the public trust, once you start torturing and murdering animals for fun or just on a whim as a first response, isn't it time to throw you in an asylum and keep you partially sedated for the rest of your life before you start dressing up like a clown and burying kids in your crawlspace or start getting horny from derailing passenger trains?

Tzeentch._
Woah boy. Jello forgot to take his meds again.

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Maybe they should try firing in the air or better yet, not provoke a dog by illegally arresting and detaining the owner. It's California. Eavesdropping laws do not apply to police activity as long as you don't interfere with the police.
This just another example of an epidemic of police shooting animals, specifically pets and strays for kicks. In my state a couple of pigs are facing possible poaching charges for purposely provoking and then shooting wild elk with their sidearms...in residential neighborhoods. I mean if you're a officer of the public trust, once you start torturing and murdering animals for fun or just on a whim as a first response, isn't it time to throw you in an asylum and keep you partially sedated for the rest of your life before you start dressing up like a clown and burying kids in your crawlspace or start getting horny from derailing passenger trains? Doesn't take much to get you going, huh?

Darth Jello
If you give someone a weapon and the power to enforce the law, the power of life and death over other people, they have to be a model for their society and in holding them up to that standard, their punishment for using their position to violate the law should be far more severe than for a typical citizen. I would extend this to anyone the public entrusts with a deadly weapon and anyone appointed or elected to a public office.

What wrong with that?

NemeBro
Originally posted by Darth Jello
If a few pigs can do this to a dog, they'll do it to a person. Dogs = people ey?

Darth Jello
Originally posted by NemeBro
Dogs = people ey?

Serial Killers and other violent Sociopaths and Psychopaths often start with torturing and abusing animals. That's one of those signs that you're seriously ****ed up and a potential threat. Rape and murder are usually about power and control over life and death as well as sadism. A lot of these monsters start with having power over fido and then make their way up the evolutionary ladder.

NemeBro
Originally posted by Darth Jello
Serial Killers and other violent Sociopaths and Psychopaths often start with torturing and abusing animals. So you are comparing a cop panicking and shooting a dog that was acting aggressively to a sociopathic budding serial killer who tortures harmless animals ey?

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by NemeBro
So you are comparing a cop panicking and shooting a dog that was acting aggressively to a sociopathic budding serial killer who tortures harmless animals ey? They're practically the same thing! We can judge this man's personality and psyche totally and accurately with just one shaking phone clip. Modern psychoanalysis at its f*cking finest!

Ushgarak
And before people start basing conclusions off of falsehoods, he was not arrested for filming. The music from his car was so loud that the police- conducting an armed response operation- couldn't hear each other properly. He was asked to turn the music down and apparently refused.

Whether that was worth cuffing him on the spot is another matter, but it was nothing to do with filming.

Bardock42
If only there was a device made for incapacitating instead of killing, perhaps something that shoots electricity instead of bullets, and if only police were issued these devices, and police officers trained to react appropriately in situation. However, such a device surely doesn't exist.


I don't think it matters what these corrupt police officers claimed they arrested him for, for one we know the music wasn't so loud, as we have a camera a mere 4 meters from the car and can clearly hear people talk as well as an animal being brutally murdered.

This man, Jeffrey Salmon, has a history of police brutality, so much so that the police department had to settle for 1 million dollars, because of his and other officers actions. He is not fit for police duty, there is no doubt in my mind (and there shouldn't be in anyone else's), that he needs to stop being a cop (and additionally he should face jail time for animal abuse and abuse of power, but we don't live in a world where that would ever happen).

Even if this was the only issue with the man (and, again, it isn't) , he shouldn't be a police officer, obviously unfit for the position.

Ushgarak
Whoa whoa whoa, don't jump to conclusions there on the noise. It's one thing to hear people right next to you, another to co-ordinate squads at distance where one thing being misheard can cause a crisis. Those police were seriously armed; that's a kind of situation that needs a properly secure environment and it's absolutely appropriate that you get people to shut off loud music.

Calling them 'corrupt' based on what we have here is clear hyperbole also. This may be an error, it may be unprofessional, it may be incompetent, but 'corrupt' is way off.

And luckily, yes, we don't live in a world stupid enough to jail a cop for that.

Newjak
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Whoa whoa whoa, don't jump to conclusions there on the noise. It's one thing to hear people right next to you, another to co-ordinate squads at distance where one thing being misheard can cause a crisis. Those police were seriously armed; that's a kind of situation that needs a properly secure environment and it's absolutely appropriate that you get people to shut off loud music.

Calling them 'corrupt' based on what we have here is clear hyperbole also. This may be an error, it may be unprofessional, it may be incompetent, but 'corrupt' is way off.

And luckily, yes, we don't live in a world stupid enough to jail a cop for that. The people were closer to the car than the police were that were entering the house. I would point out the officers entered the house a good 2 minutes before those two cops came to arrest the man. Even than the two cops that arrested him and shot the dog didn't go straight for him. First they walked to the sidewalk and then walked the other way from the guy. It wasn't until he started talking trash to those two cops that they came over to arrest him.

I feel if the music from his car was interfering with their communication that badly the cops would have gone straight to arrest him before any of them had entered the area they were going after.

As it stands it seems pretty clear to me that they simply tried to make an example out of him or were tired of his antics and decided to do something about it.

Cops SHOULD be more professional about that kind of situation. Also it wasn't like the dog jumped out of the car all of a sudden and ran straight towards the officer. The dog was clearly sticking it's head out of the open window barking and even when it got out it stood it's ground barking for a good time before it did anything.

The fact the cop's first response in that situation was to ready and use lethal force shows imo an ineptness at their job. They had other options, had time to think of other options and opted for the worse way of dealing with what was happening.

Tzeentch._
You can argue all you want about the legality of arresting the black dude, but the shooting of the dog is a completely separate issue from the false arrest. Shooting a dog that is attacking you is not "animal cruelty". wtf?

Why the animal is attacking you doesn't matter- if you brought the attack upon yourself, it doesn't matter. Defending yourself from an aggressive animal is, straight up, not animal abuse in any way, shape or form.

Newjak
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
You can argue all you want about the legality of arresting the black dude, but the shooting of the dog is a completely separate issue from the false arrest. Shooting a dog that is attacking you is not "animal cruelty". wtf?

Why the animal is attacking you doesn't matter- if you brought the attack upon yourself, it doesn't matter. Defending yourself from an aggressive animal is, straight up, not animal abuse in any way, shape or form. If you're the one provoking the animal and the animal does what it's supposed to do and you hurt it then it is your fault the animal got hurt.

Also I think the general sentiment is that it partially abuse as well because the cop should have used another means to subdue the dog. Defending yourself against an something attacking you is a natural reaction but the cops should have been trained enough to not resort to such poor decisions like lethal force in that particular situation as they had other options and the time think about them and use them.

Tzeentch._
Originally posted by Newjak
If you're the one provoking the animal and the animal does what it's supposed to do and you hurt it then it is your fault the animal got hurt.


"It's your fault" =\= committing animal abuse. I can go up to someones window and blow raspberries at a dog all ****ing day long. If he goes apeshit and jumps through the window and attacks me, I'm well within my rights to break its ****ing neck.

Furthermore, the dog was locked up in a car (or so they thought), no one was counting on the dog jumping out of the window.

Like, people need to seriously think this through. It's apparently "animal abuse" because the police falsely arrested somebody. Errrrr, so you're saying that if the black guy had been selling crack on the corner with his dog on a leash, and then the police arrested him, it wouldn't be animal abuse if the dog slipped its leash and the cops ended up shooting it? Come on.

This is why you need to separate the incidences in your mind. False arrest does not turn killing an animal into abuse. I mean shit, animal abuse doesn't even mean "unlawful killing of animals", like its murder or some shit, otherwise you could go to jail for running a cat over. Animal abuse is specifically in regards to inflicting suffering on an animal or torturing it. Freaking out and shooting a dog, who presumably died seconds later, can not count as animal abuse.

Newjak
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
"It's your fault" =\= committing animal abuse. I can go up to someones window and blow raspberries at a dog all ****ing day long. If he goes apeshit and jumps through the window and attacks me, I'm well within my rights to break its ****ing neck.

Furthermore, the dog was locked up in a car (or so they thought), no one was counting on the dog jumping out of the window.

Like, people need to seriously think this through. It's apparently "animal abuse" because the police falsely arrested somebody. Errrrr, so you're saying that if the black guy had been selling crack on the corner with his dog on a leash, and then the police arrested him, it wouldn't be animal abuse if the dog slipped its leash and the cops ended up shooting it? Come on.

This is why you need to separate the incidences in your mind. False arrest does not turn killing an animal into abuse. I mean shit, animal abuse doesn't even mean "unlawful killing of animals", like its murder or some shit, otherwise you could go to jail for running a cat over. Animal abuse is specifically in regards to inflicting suffering on an animal or torturing it. Freaking out and shooting a dog, who presumably died seconds later, can not count as animal abuse. Abuse is hurting another creature, it being your fault that an animal was needlessly hurt and killed == animal abuse.

Anyways we're not talking about you blowing raspberries at a car or a cat that randomly runs into the street and you can't avoid it. We are talking about an animal that went to defend it's master and a cop that didn't have to kill the dog and instead decided to kill the dog.

The cops had plenty of time to think of another way of handling that situation. And if you don't think that animal suffered needlessly while it laid on the street dying and twitching then I won't be taking your opinion on this subject seriously anymore.

EDIT: And FYI I'm not using the legal definition of animal abuse in fact in the sentence you quoted I didn't even use the term animal abuse. But clearly an animal was hurt that shouldn't have been.

jaden101
It's obviously cos the dog was black.

GCG
We're not allowed to play music because it disturbs the police, while it's perfectly ok for them to tear down my road, sirens blaring at 3 a.m. just after we managed to put the baby to sleep.

The music was just an excuse. If it was really a reason, they would have taken action straight away not stare at the man for ages trying to debate what to do.

Lestov16
Originally posted by GCG
We're not allowed to play music because it disturbs the police, while it's perfectly ok for them to tear down my road, sirens blaring at 3 a.m. just after we managed to put the baby to sleep.

I can't sympathize. If the cops are blaring sirens at 3 am, there's probably an urgent emergency they need to get to. It's responsibility, not rudeness.

Originally posted by GCG
The music was just an excuse. If it was really a reason, they would have taken action straight away not stare at the man for ages trying to debate what to do.

Agreed. Pigs like those give police departments a horrible reputation.

GCG
Originally posted by Lestov16
I can't sympathize. If the cops are blaring sirens at 3 am, there's probably an urgent emergency they need to get to. It's responsibility, not rudeness.


Apart from the fact that the road was completely empty, they're breaching the peace.

The sirens are there to overcome traffic which in some cases there is none, yet they persist on using them spuriously. That is abuse.

Robtard
Originally posted by Tzeentch._
"It's your fault" =\= committing animal abuse. I can go up to someones window and blow raspberries at a dog all ****ing day long. If he goes apeshit and jumps through the window and attacks me, I'm well within my rights to break its ****ing neck.

Furthermore, the dog was locked up in a car (or so they thought), no one was counting on the dog jumping out of the window.

Like, people need to seriously think this through. It's apparently "animal abuse" because the police falsely arrested somebody. Errrrr, so you're saying that if the black guy had been selling crack on the corner with his dog on a leash, and then the police arrested him, it wouldn't be animal abuse if the dog slipped its leash and the cops ended up shooting it? Come on.

This is why you need to separate the incidences in your mind. False arrest does not turn killing an animal into abuse. I mean shit, animal abuse doesn't even mean "unlawful killing of animals", like its murder or some shit, otherwise you could go to jail for running a cat over. Animal abuse is specifically in regards to inflicting suffering on an animal or torturing it. Freaking out and shooting a dog, who presumably died seconds later, can not count as animal abuse.

You and your hatred of dogs, just stop.

Stands to reason the cop was armed with a taser as well, that should have been his first response. Firing bullets towards the ground when there's people near by as bullets can ricochet should be the second choice in "saving" his own life from a dog.

Archaeopteryx
Not police....pigs

teen escort
F da five O man. Da iz all corrupt! In da U.K. we av dem bugging Stephen Lawrences mum nd fitting people up, da even fit up da MP's. diss is crazy. I got pulled by da pigz for soliciting de ova day. Geeze F da 5 O man F dem!

dadudemon
I think Bardock42 and Newjack already covered this topic, the best. Generally, I am the one in the GDF that defends some police action but I don't think there is anything to defend, this time. no expression

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Woah boy. Jello forgot to take his meds again.

Probably not cool because he has some real world issues that he has to deal with that require medication.

jaden101
Biting cops in the...hot sun
I fought the law and...the law won.
Woof woof woof woof woof...woof woof woof.

Dolos
Didn't watch lol

Dolos
Originally posted by Newjak
Abuse is hurting another creature, it being your fault that an animal was needlessly hurt and killed == animal abuse.

Two animals (possums I'm pretty sure) have been made roadkill, it was my fault, but I couldn't react fast enough to avoid them.

NemeBro
Originally posted by jaden101
Biting cops in the...hot sun
I fought the law and...the law won.
Woof woof woof woof woof...woof woof woof. ...... haermm

Supra
**** those cops

Darth Jello
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/2-investigates-nearly-100-dogs-shot-police/nSrz7/

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/07/19/dogs-in-a-deadly-crossfire.html

http://rt.com/usa/cop-accorti-kittens-shooting-669/

This is just another example of an epidemic.

I'm sure police were defending themselves in all these cases, whether it be shooting a 5-pound chihuahua or showing off by shooting a litter of kittens in front of children.

Supra
This is why I hate cops. They cant just protect serve, they have to kill and oppress. Every cop I know is a dick even out of uniform.

ArtificialGlory
I'd imagine being shot is a pretty quick and painless way to die, if you're a kitten.

NemeBro
Originally posted by Darth Jello
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/2-investigates-nearly-100-dogs-shot-police/nSrz7/

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/07/19/dogs-in-a-deadly-crossfire.html

http://rt.com/usa/cop-accorti-kittens-shooting-669/

This is just another example of an epidemic.

I'm sure police were defending themselves in all these cases, whether it be shooting a 5-pound chihuahua or showing off by shooting a litter of kittens in front of children. So shooting a rather large rottweiler as it attacks you and snaps at your hand is the same as shooting kittens in a box to you, ey?

Darth Jello
Originally posted by NemeBro
So shooting a rather large rottweiler as it attacks you and snaps at your hand is the same as shooting kittens in a box to you, ey? It's at least the same as shooting a handcuffed, wriggling man at a BART station as you "accidentally" mistake your gun for a taser. It's that awesome combination of machismo and lack of training in this case. What did he think the dog would do? Maybe cops should have the right to shoot any pet that reacts sympathetically to the nervousness and fear of their owners when in police presence for any reason? Or maybe they should be trained on how to calm and handle animals since they'll probably encounter them on the job often?

Robtard
laughing out loud at the shooting of the small dogs and kittens and being cleared. ****ing cops.

Archaeopteryx
While I want to have respect for law enforcement it's to bad that cop wasn't the subject of one of the beheading videos from Iraq

GCG
This old biddy here looked like a real threat to those poor officers. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5cc_1372864552

Robtard
Originally posted by GCG
This old biddy here looked like a real threat to those poor officers. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5cc_1372864552

She should have jumped up and moved quickly when the officer commanded her to. Stupid old hag.

jaden101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l02ClrqCez0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

found another horrifying example of cops shooting a dog. Warning. Very graphic.

Rao Kal El
I have this one from one of my accounts on my business.

Let me give a little bit of the back ground

This is a Hotel located in Arkansas, We installed 32 cameras on the hotel property, the property is so big that they had a drug problem and it was very difficult to patrol the whole place, so We installed those 32 cameras. Anyhow.

The guy who is getting arrested on the white car was an allegedly drug dealer, the property manager was the guy who alerted the cops about the drug dealer on the property.

The Cops arrested the drug dealer but somehow someway, the property manager ended up getting beat up and arrested by the cops as well.

Around minute 11:00 is when you see one of the cops approaching the property manager and the property manager backing down to avoid any problems and then the cops proceed to beat him up.

7gUJkfJOSxw

Robtard
Clearly he was verbally threatening them.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I have this one from one of my accounts on my business.

Let me give a little bit of the back ground

This is a Hotel located in Arkansas, We installed 32 cameras on the hotel property, the property is so big that they had a drug problem and it was very difficult to patrol the whole place, so We installed those 32 cameras. Anyhow.

The guy who is getting arrested on the white car was an allegedly drug dealer, the property manager was the guy who alerted the cops about the drug dealer on the property.

The Cops arrested the drug dealer but somehow someway, the property manager ended up getting beat up and arrested by the cops as well.

Around minute 11:00 is when you see one of the cops approaching the property manager and the property manager backing down to avoid any problems and then the cops proceed to beat him up.

7gUJkfJOSxw


Sir, your video is about to get hundreds of thousands of views. I recommend you monetize your youtube channel. It won't take you very long.

Lord Lucien
Arkansas cops, amirite?

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by Robtard
Clearly he was verbally threatening them.

lol, yeah big grin

I spoke originally to the property manager and according to him, He didn't do anything to incite the attack.

As far as I know and for what I spoke to him, he sued the city police department. Do not know if He won the case or not, but as you can see there is no apparent reason for the beating.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sir, your video is about to get hundreds of thousands of views. I recommend you monetize your youtube channel. It won't take you very long.

Just did, Thanks

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Arkansas cops, amirite?

Yes, after this incident I actually did some digging around and it seems that this is not an isolated incident in Arkansas.

0mega Spawn
**** tha police
**** **** **** tha police
**** em

- jay and silent bob

jinXed by JaNx
Frack the police? Yeah, who are you gonna call when a villain breaks into your house? Well, some people would call their drug dealers, but then again what would he do..,rob your house and steal the rest of what you GOT lol just because you have it.

Did the Officer go too far? Maybe, but they're trained to draw their weapons when they feel their life is in danger. It's a shame the dog had to die but damn, that guy didn't have to be such an ******* by recording everything. He was just asking for attention. Police are able to search and siege under suspicion.

Astner
The dog was killed in self-defense. The police officer tried to grab the leash and the dog attacked.

I too would've shot the dog under those circumstances.

Epicurus
You would probably shoot anyone under any circumstance.

Lord Lucien
Yeah, you seem like one of the homicidal ones, Astner.

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I have this one from one of my accounts on my business.

Let me give a little bit of the back ground

This is a Hotel located in Arkansas, We installed 32 cameras on the hotel property, the property is so big that they had a drug problem and it was very difficult to patrol the whole place, so We installed those 32 cameras. Anyhow.

The guy who is getting arrested on the white car was an allegedly drug dealer, the property manager was the guy who alerted the cops about the drug dealer on the property.

The Cops arrested the drug dealer but somehow someway, the property manager ended up getting beat up and arrested by the cops as well.

Around minute 11:00 is when you see one of the cops approaching the property manager and the property manager backing down to avoid any problems and then the cops proceed to beat him up.

7gUJkfJOSxw

That right THERE is taking the law into your own hands and wiping your ass with it. that was totally uncalled for, regardless of the suspect said or did. I guess it's just the illusion of power. what would you do or say with it when and if you had it? I suppose I contradict myself because I don't really believe power is an illusion. It's a very real thing. Not to get too existentialist, at the end of the day we don't have full control. However, in our world of society we surely do. We govern ourselves around our beliefs and we choose to give others certain power to watch over us and protect us. While we live our lives by the rules...,the rights and the wrongs. The rabble and the outcasts, the ones whom choose not to be apart of society or live for each other get penalized when they live too loudly and they will because they always do. It's unfortunate, however when those we put our faith into take things too far and abuse the power we give them. They will be held accountable and always are as well.

Rao Kal El
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
That right THERE is taking the law into your own hands and wiping your ass with it. that was totally uncalled for, regardless of the suspect said or did. I guess it's just the illusion of power. what would you do or say with it when and if you had it? I suppose I contradict myself because I don't really believe power is an illusion. It's a very real thing. Not to get too existentialist, at the end of the day we don't have full control. However, in our world of society we surely do. We govern ourselves around our beliefs and we choose to give others certain power to watch over us and protect us. While we live our lives by the rules...,the rights and the wrongs. The rabble and the outcasts, the ones whom choose not to be apart of society or live for each other get penalized when they live too loudly and they will because they always do. It's unfortunate, however when those we put our faith into take things too far and abuse the power we give them. They will be held accountable and always are as well.

I believe We should be the ones responsible for our own security, so We don't have to depend on the gov to protect ourselves.

When We start giving our responsibilities away, the one who get's them starts gaining a lot of control over our own lives and we become dependent of them.

Astner
Originally posted by Epicurus
You would probably shoot anyone under any circumstance.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Yeah, you seem like one of the homicidal ones, Astner.
True. Then again, with friends like you, could you really blame me?

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Astner
True. Then again, with friends like you http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/8734418957_46db59ffe2_z.jpg

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I believe We should be the ones responsible for our own security, so We don't have to depend on the gov to protect ourselves.

When We start giving our responsibilities away, the one who get's them starts gaining a lot of control over our own lives and we become dependent of them.

Yeah, most definitely. That's where it should start and end...,with oneself. I think we live in a society that is held very accountable for individual actions and sometimes that may even be a problem because those in power are rarely, if ever seen being held accountable for their mistakes. That can often create a problem in society when people stop caring because they feel no one else does but that's certainly not true. The majority do care.

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