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Rules:
Adamantium Wolverine.
Non Edo Tensei Itachi.
All in their primes.
No Mangekyous.

Scenario 1: No genjutsu allowed
Scenario 2: Genjutsu allowed

Who wins in each scenario?

Itachi still wins both. 10/10

Itachi in a mild stomp.

I'm sorry, but... who is Itachi? I predict him coming up a little more in the threads for some reason. I could look him up, but that won't explain why he's such an apparent badass.

Logan and Rand ftw

Originally posted by Sacred 117
I'm sorry, but... who is Itachi? I predict him coming up a little more in the threads for some reason. I could look him up, but that won't explain why he's such an apparent badass.

He's a guy from the manga Naruto:

http://quizilla.teennick.com/user_images/J/JE/JED/JedivsSith/1137463303_chiUchiha6.jpg

He's a ninja with super-powered eyes that let him trap his opponents in genjutsu (illusions), create black fire and has various other powers.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Logan and Rand ftw


Lol. Funny.

scenario 1: Itachi beats the hell outta both but can't put Wolverine down.

scenario 2: spite.

Originally posted by marwash22
scenario 1: Itachi beats the hell outta both but can't put Wolverine down.

scenario 2: spite.

Even without Genjutsu or Tsukiyomi, he's still got enough massive level attacks to leave Wolverine as nothing but a skeleton. And that would count as a loss. As would BFR.

oh, count outs are treated the same as KO's?

Burn 'em. Burn 'em all and take their fancy spandex.






...unburn the spandex first.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He's a guy from the manga Naruto:

http://quizilla.teennick.com/user_images/J/JE/JED/JedivsSith/1137463303_chiUchiha6.jpg

He's a ninja with super-powered eyes that let him trap his opponents in genjutsu (illusions), create black fire and has various other powers.

Ah. Ok. I'm not really familiar with Naruto.

Itachi just uses Amaterasu on Wolverine. It can't destroy his adamantium, but it will burn forever so Wolverine spends eternity as a burning skeleton.

No Mangekyou Sharingan guys. So no Amaterasu, Susano'o, Tsukuyomi, etc.

Ghey. So what, he's got just Katon and shurikans?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ghey. So what, he's got just Katon and shurikans?

Taijutsu, ninjutsu (water style, fire style), regular Sharingan, and genjutsu (scenario 2 only).

A normal Sharingan is all he'd need.

What can Itachi do to stop them without Genjutsu and his Mangekyou?

I can't think of much he can do. Sure he can dance around them but I'm not sure how he'd put down Wolverine.

He should be able to just KO him with enough hits, lol.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
What can Itachi do to stop them without Genjutsu and his Mangekyou?

I can't think of much he can do. Sure he can dance around them but I'm not sure how he'd put down Wolverine.

Itachi is in the class that he can hit Logan more than hard enough with Taijutsu to KTFO him. He also has access to regular ninjutsu like gigantic fireballs that will leave Logan as nothing but a skeleton. That counts as a loss.

You saw that Superior Spider-Man fight vs Wolverine? It's gonna be like that, but a whole lot faster if Itachi doesn't screw around.

And that's if he only uses Taijutsu.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He should be able to just KO him with enough hits, lol. Stronger characters have tried.

First fight, Wolverine cuts Itachi's head off.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Stronger characters have tried.

First fight, Wolverine cuts Itachi's head off.
Weaker ones have succeeded.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Stronger characters have tried.

First fight, Wolverine cuts Itachi's head off.

And weaker characters have succeeded.

First fight, Wolverine complains that the sissy with the pretty nails is too damn fast to hit. Then he wakes up a few hours later.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Weaker ones have succeeded. Name them.

Romulus.

Stacy X.(Don't remember if she ko'd him, but she beat him up pretty good)

Romulus is actually enough though, since all he did is tap him on the noggin with the pommel of a sword.

I can't recall any strength feats for Itachi. The guy is basically a straight up illusionist fighter/MS spammer.

Originally posted by KingD19
Romulus.

Stacy X.(Don't remember if she ko'd him, but she beat him up pretty good)

Romulus is actually enough though, since all he did is tap him on the noggin with the pommel of a sword. Provide a single strength feat for Itachi.

Just one.

He's probably stronger than Stacy X, but I assure you there are far more instances of Wolverine taking hits from characters Thing level or higher than there are of Wolverine being KO'd by human strength fighters.

Also, for the record, Spiderman would beat the ****ing shit out of Itachi in h2h.

I could see Itachi putting Wolverine in that permanent looping Genjutsu to take care of him then with the rest of his abilities take on Danny, but since he doesn't have mangekyou the poor guy can't even use Susanoo, but idk I mean speed wise he still is in the clear..so I guess he could pull wins? Ah who am I kidding this is a guy who when he was resurrected and controlled, found a way to completely regain control of his zombie like self, he'll find a way to win xD!

Seriously though Wolverine without Mangekyou would be annoying as hell to face and even harder to put down ._. ...I love the Uchiha more than any other clan and while Itachi is in a league of his own, he can only do so much without his eyes >.<.

Not to mention Itachi could break his hand if he kept punching Wolverine's skeleton.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Stronger characters have tried.

First fight, Wolverine cuts Itachi's head off.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Also, for the record, Spiderman would beat the ****ing shit out of Itachi in h2h.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Not to mention Itachi could break his hand if he kept punching Wolverine's skeleton.

Itachi's hypersonic+ in combat speed for having kept up with Bijuu Mode Naruto and is also stronger than Spider-Man with power scaling off of that very same fight. Only thing Itachi lacks is stamina and that's due to his illness, and I'm assuming he isn't ill here since it says the characters are at their peak. This is like saying who would win between Wolverine or Storm. Except if Storm couldn't fly, but instead had precognition, was much more skilled, much faster, and also much stronger.

Literally one fireball or a water style technique would end this fight. He would stomp with just taijutsu as well though.

Even if he only uses Taijutsu he should take a slim majority

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Itachi's hypersonic+ in combat speed for having kept up with Bijuu Mode Naruto and is also stronger than Spider-Man with power scaling off of that very same fight. Only thing Itachi lacks is stamina and that's due to his illness, and I'm assuming he isn't ill here since it says the characters are at their peak. This is like saying who would win between Wolverine or Storm. Except if Storm couldn't fly, but instead had precognition, was much more skilled, much faster, and also much stronger.

Literally one fireball or a water style technique would end this fight. He would stomp with just taijutsu as well though. Nope.

you obviously don't know that grand fireball > Hulk punches.

you don't even read Naruto.

One does not disagree with presented facts.

Itachi reacted to Kirin which is legit lightning. While on his death bed and almost blind. Hypersonic+ at that state.

His punches and kicks were leaving craters on the buildings and ground. Again, while dying and half blind. Stronger than Spiderman.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Itachi reacted to Kirin which is legit lightning. While on his death bed and almost blind. Hypersonic+ at that state.

Spiderman has reacted to legit lightning. Try harder.




No they weren't ****.

Well Itachi reacted to lightning by opening his eyeball and summoning Susano'o which he doesn't have in this thread.

He didn't actually dodge it or anything.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Spiderman has reacted to legit lightning. Try harder.


No they weren't ****.

Using once in a life time feats again. If you're talking about Electro, he doesn't produce actual lightning, rofl. It's like saying Sasuke's Chidori is actual lightning as well when he directs it towards a person by sending it out.

And ROFL at saying no to that when part 1 Naruto and Sasuke were doing more than that with their punches and kicks. Ok man, whatever you say.

http://94.23.34.161/manga/mangas/Naruto/387%20-%20Reality%E2%80%A6!!%20/ch387_UK_Page_13.png
http://178.21.19.200/manga/mangas/Naruto/387%20-%20Reality%E2%80%A6!!%20/ch387_UK_Page_14.png

^ While dying and holding back. Stronger than Spider-Man.

Anyway, BM Naruto is hypersonic++ and a solid class 100. Itachi kept up with him while resurrected with Edo Tensei.

Spider-man ding it is once in a life time, Itachi's isn't?

Not to mention those links are to an illusion battle.

Tsukuyomi can only alter time, it can't alter the laws of physics or Itachi's physical capabilities. vin

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Not to mention those links are to an illusion battle.

And the illusions were meant to be life-like. It's not like he made himself stronger than Superman in the illusion, which he easily could have while in Tsukuyomi.

Regardless, I still can't believe you people don't think that Itachi's physically stronger than Spider-Man.

Part 1 Naruto could do this.
http://94.23.34.161/manga/mangas/Naruto/229%20-%20The%20Bond%E2%80%A6!!%20/naruto_ch229_p07.png
http://178.21.19.200/manga/mangas/Naruto/229%20-%20The%20Bond%E2%80%A6!!%20/naruto_ch229_p08.png

First Tail mode Naruto.
http://94.23.34.161/manga/mangas/Naruto/231%20-%20Special%20Powers!!%20/naruto_ch231_p12-13.png
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http://178.21.19.200/manga/mangas/Naruto/231%20-%20Special%20Powers!!%20/naruto_ch231_p16.png

Sasuke and Naruto's clash wrecking solid structure like nothing.
http://178.21.19.200/manga/mangas/Naruto/232%20-%20The%20Valley%20of%20the%20End%20/naruto_ch232_p03.png
http://178.21.19.200/manga/mangas/Naruto/232%20-%20The%20Valley%20of%20the%20End%20/naruto_ch232_p04.png
http://178.21.19.200/manga/mangas/Naruto/232%20-%20The%20Valley%20of%20the%20End%20/naruto_ch232_p05.png


Those strength feats alone are more than anything any class 15 could do on an average day. The difference between Naruto/Sasuke here and dying Itachi is astronomical. In terms of everything Itachi is faaaaaaaar superior to them.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Spider-man ding it is once in a life time, Itachi's isn't?

It's only one show with a single author whereas there are thousands upon thousands of Spider-Man comics each with different writers. Not only that, there is only one all-out Itachi fight in the entire series and he performed like that.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Tsukuyomi can only alter time, it can't alter the laws of physics or Itachi's physical capabilities. vin

Itachi's God in Tsukuyomi and his Tsukuyomi can't be broken by a single person. Killer B was able to break Sasuke's version, but fell under Itachi's average genjutsu. Danzo even explained that Itachi's Tsukuyomi is far superior to Sasuke's.

Originally posted by TheTyrant


Itachi's God in Tsukuyomi

Lulz at Itachi being god in his Tsukuyomi. He's god already. kruemelmonsteryn0

Originally posted by TheTyrant
his Tsukuyomi can't be broken by a single person. Bullshit.
Sasuke broke Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Itachi holding back does not invalidate this.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Killer B was able to break Sasuke's version, but fell under Itachi's average genjutsu.
Killer Bee never broke through Sasuke's MS Genjutsu. Gyuuki, his Bijuu, broke it.

The same thing happened when Itachi cast a regular genjutsu on Bee.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Danzo even explained that Itachi's Tsukuyomi is far superior to Sasuke's.

Yes, because Itachi can alter a person's perception of time within Tsukuyomi.
Your proof that he can make himself Superman-level strong within Tsukuyomi, or completely change the laws of physics?


Come back when you've read and understood the manga. Your wanking of Itachi needs a lot of work as well.

And those strength feats featured two characters amped up. Naruto gets ludicrously stronger when using the Kyuubi's chakra. He goes from struggling to lift the jaws of a snake biting on him(though he does eventually do it) to being able to stop an identical snake that was going at a full charge. Likewise the Curse Seal increases the users strength.

Itachi has neither of these things and has slightly above average strength. If he really were that strong then he wouldn't need Susano'o to smash the wall between him and Kabuto.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
And those strength feats featured two characters amped up. Naruto gets ludicrously stronger when using the Kyuubi's chakra. He goes from struggling to lift the jaws of a snake biting on him(though he does eventually do it) to being able to stop an identical snake that was going at a full charge. Likewise the Curse Seal increases the users strength.

Itachi has neither of these things and has slightly above average strength. If he really were that strong then he wouldn't need Susano'o to smash the wall between him and Kabuto.

Are you seriously telling me that part 1 Naruto and Sasuke were physically stronger than Itachi? http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4242/2nhjfcp.jpg

Despite Edo Itachi physically keeping up with BM Naruto? http://imageshack.us/a/img11/6302/mjchokehand.png

How does Itachi taking out Susano'o to break a wall prove that he can't physically do it himself? There are no repercussions to using it while in Edo Tensei. He might have been taking it out for defense in case Kabuto was quick to retaliate? That literally shows nothing about Itachi's physical strength.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Bullshit.
Sasuke broke Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Itachi holding back does not invalidate this.

Itachi holding back and having his visual prowess weakened is everything that invalidates that since Tsukuyomi can easily kill someone as both Kakashi and Kisame noted. If he had kept it up with the intention of not killing Sasuke, then Sasuke would have been put in a coma in the real world just like Kakashi before the time skip. If Sasuke went into a coma, then everything Itachi had planned would've been ruined.



Ok? How does this disprove what I said? I said that no single person can break out of Tsukuyomi and Killer B needed 8-Tails to do it for him against Sasuke's much weaker version. It was Sasuke's first time using it as well.

Itachi's Tsukuyomi will have its effect in about a second in the real world and no other person can help you if you are caught in it as Kakashi explicitly stated.

http://i50.tinypic.com/1179shj.png



Only after Itachi told them that they were under his genjutsu.

http://94.23.34.161/manga/mangas/Naruto/549%20-%20Itachi%27s%20Question!!/13.png
http://94.23.34.161/manga/mangas/Naruto/549%20-%20Itachi%27s%20Question!!/14.png

According to Naruto what would happen if B was put in Tsukuyomi.

http://i48.tinypic.com/e7zb52.png



Meaning that it won't be instantaneous like Itachi's version.



http://imageshack.us/a/img29/125/11858268crawford2.png

http://178.21.19.200/manga/mangas/Naruto/142%20-%20Kakashi%20vs.%20Itachi%20/Naruto142_16.jpg
http://94.23.34.161/manga/mangas/Naruto/142%20-%20Kakashi%20vs.%20Itachi%20/Naruto142_17.jpg

"All of space. All of time. Every matter. Everything is under my control."

Space, time, matter, everything. It doesn't get any more clear than that, rofl.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Are you seriously telling me that part 1 Naruto and Sasuke were physically stronger than Itachi? Yes (Well, mostly just Naruto using the Kyuubi, I don't recall strength feats for Sasuke, even using the Cursed Seal).

Prove me wrong.

Not that Naruto pushing Sasuke about a foot through rock makes him stronger than Spiderman mind you.

Itachi at no point overpowered BM Naruto, so him fighting him means dick.

The Curse Seal did make Jirobi stronger so I kind of applied it to Sasuke as well. And Sasuke's Curse Seal did make him durable as Hell.

And I'm sure Wolverine has fought with some pretty strong guys in scenes similar to the Itachi one. On top of those nifty feat things he has.

Shut the **** up.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yes (Well, mostly just Naruto using the Kyuubi, I don't recall strength feats for Sasuke, even using the Cursed Seal).

Prove me wrong.

Not that Naruto pushing Sasuke about a foot through rock makes him stronger than Spiderman mind you.

Itachi at no point overpowered BM Naruto, so him fighting him means dick.

http://img.mangahit.com/manga/0916/033580/11.jpg

Part 1 Sasuke takes out an approx 30 foot bear with one kick. A mite better than Spiderman-level as I recall.

Come at me bro!

It isn't.

It is about class 5.

Using a technique that Itachi has no access to.

It's Lion Combo. Its just a kick.

That Itachi has no access to.

Itachi took out Wild Boar. Itachi > All.

Oh shit you're right, I forgot.

Wild Boar too strong.

Actually the boar dodged Itachi's kunai and Sasuke's arrow.

Sure at the end of the chapter you see what appears to be a wild boar lying prone on the ground. But of course that is all Kishi could show you. What you didn't see was the Wild Boar getting up because it had been pretending to be prone. It subsequently violated them violently.

Itachi isn't going to do so well with no Mangekyo and no other sharingan genjutsu. He could light Wolvy on fire I guess, he better hope that slows him. He'd probably cause some confusion with shadow clones and hopefully take out Danny. Putting down Wolverine will be the problem.

He rapes with genjutsu though.

A fair post by a respectable poster.

Originally posted by NemeBro
A fair post by a respectable poster.

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