Black Racer Hela

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Golgo13
Which death god wins?

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/BR_zps2bcd0e21.jpg

vs

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/Hel_zpsc2feb88d.jpg

Golgo13
bump

Emi~Kiro
Black Racer is faster and more threatening I think he beats Hela :3

abhilegend
Black racer wins.

quanchi112
Hela wins.

zopzop
Black Racer rips off her cloak, she's now helpless (I could have sworn this is common knowledge). BR wins.........effortlessly.

quanchi112
Originally posted by zopzop
Black Racer rips off her cloak, she's now helpless (I could have sworn this is common knowledge). BR wins.........effortlessly. Based on what combat feats ?

zopzop
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what combat feats ?
http://s1d6.turboimagehost.com/t/5329322_xf_212_022.jpg

She can't do anything to him. He can end her whenever he wants.

SevenShackles
Nothing can stop the Black Racer from reaching his target, no wall can stop him and no barrier can withhold him. His target is the Cloak.

quanchi112
Originally posted by zopzop
http://s1d6.turboimagehost.com/t/5329322_xf_212_022.jpg

She can't do anything to him. He can end her whenever he wants. Black Racer and Hela have never canonically met.

zopzop
Originally posted by quanchi112
Black Racer and Hela have never canonically met.
I know but it's a HUGE weakness that can be exploited even by accident :
http://s21.postimg.org/64dvcx9fn/T361_Hela.jpg
He can end her any time he wants. She can't say the same.

BR 10/10.

SevenShackles
Originally posted by quanchi112
Black Racer and Hela have never canonically met.
I dont think the implication was that was BlackRacer in the scan (it would have to be a crossover after all) but that all that is needed is to remove the cloak. Thinking he can isn't a large leap him being a rep of death himself and having insane speed to aid him.

zopzop
Originally posted by SevenShackles
I dont think the implication was that was BlackRacer in the scan (it would have to be a crossover after all) but that all that is needed is to remove the cloak. Thinking he can isn't a large leap him being a rep of death himself and having insane speed to aid him.
He isn't a rep of Death like Hela is.

He's an aspect of the actual ABSTRACT of Death like Death of the Endless and Nekron! He represents Death as Inevitability :
http://s16.postimg.org/6lsmjxc69/death2.jpg

He's simply beyond Hela.

abhilegend
Racer has destroyed the whole creation once IIRC.

Endless Mike
BR

quanchi112
Originally posted by zopzop
I know but it's a HUGE weakness that can be exploited even by accident :
http://s21.postimg.org/64dvcx9fn/T361_Hela.jpg
He can end her any time he wants. She can't say the same.

BR 10/10. She kills him before he can do so. Im at half Source power has done so.

quanchi112
Originally posted by SevenShackles
I dont think the implication was that was BlackRacer in the scan (it would have to be a crossover after all) but that all that is needed is to remove the cloak. Thinking he can isn't a large leap him being a rep of death himself and having insane speed to aid him. Easier said than done.

zopzop
Originally posted by quanchi112
She kills him before he can do so. Im at half Source power has done so.
How can she kill an actual DEATH ABSTRACT. He's not a Death God, he's an actual ABSTRACT.

IM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hela anyway.

quanchi112
Originally posted by zopzop
How can she kill an actual DEATH ABSTRACT. He's not a Death God, he's an actual ABSTRACT.

IM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hela anyway. Im at half power easily killed him. Removed his heart iirc. Hela beats him. The guy doesn't really have any impressive feats or portrayal IMO.

Golgo13
Originally posted by zopzop
How can she kill an actual DEATH ABSTRACT. He's not a Death God, he's an actual ABSTRACT.

IM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hela anyway.

yes

abhilegend
Racer casts his shadow across the whole creation as Genesis Box remakes the universe

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16212076_JLA_14_pg23.JPG

zopzop
^^
It's pretty clear BR stomps.

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
Racer casts his shadow across the whole creation as Genesis Box remakes the universe

http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t1/16212076_JLA_14_pg23.JPG Not canon.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Golgo13
yes How is he a death abstract ?

zopzop
Originally posted by quanchi112
How is he a death abstract ?
I just posted the scan.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Has the Black Racer ever been in a fight? This is the only one I can recall and while he did slap away Cyborg, he was seriously hurt by his cannon as well:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212165_4534571.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212166_6218946.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212167_685188.jpg

He's definitely far faster then Hela (Kept up with Wally in this issue until he was bfr'ed via Boom Tube). He also seems to have a higher function/responsibility but that isn't automatically equivalent to battle power. Hela's not a New God, so he can't automatically claim her soul.

Golgo13
Zop posted a scan of him easily swatting Superman away.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Where?

But I just remembered him blasting Superman away:
http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16212172_ManOfSteel116p03.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16212173_ManOfSteel116p04.jpg

Still, hardly something that puts him above Hela. Especially since Clark wasn't 100% or anything IIRC.

abhilegend
He didn't even react to a full on punch from superman.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where?

But I just remembered him blasting Superman away:
http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16212172_ManOfSteel116p03.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16212173_ManOfSteel116p04.jpg

Still, hardly something that puts him above Hela. Especially since Clark wasn't 100% or anything IIRC.
The second scan is imperiex blasting superman btw. Superman wasn't blasted away from racer, he just bounced away from him after that blow.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
The second scan is imperiex blasting superman btw. Superman wasn't blasted away from racer, he just bounced away from him after that blow.

I swear it's the next consecutive scan from the comic.

What? Definitely looks like he was blasted away:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16212172/ManOfSteel116p03.jpg.html

There's a big explosion and shit.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I swear it's the next consecutive scan from the comic.

What? Definitely looks like he was blasted away:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16212172/ManOfSteel116p03.jpg.html

There's a big explosion and shit.
That is. The thing is that the apokolips scene is happening before the Racer scene. Superman was brought upon apokolips by darkseid which you see where parademons are carrying him, he gets in a fight with darkseid, hears a distress call from Steel and finds him dead on the moon. That's where the first page with the racer starts with superman pleading with racer.

The scar which was shown by that blast was explicitly stated to be caused by superman.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
That is. The thing is that the apokolips scene is happening before the Racer scene. Superman was brought upon apokolips by darkseid which you see where parademons are carrying him, he gets in a fight with darkseid, hears a distress call from Steel and finds him dead on the moon. That's where the first page with the racer starts with superman pleading with racer.

The scar which was shown by that blast was explicitly stated to be caused by superman.

Oh okay.

Hmm, it's not in this issue, do you have a scan? Has to be very clear cut to counter that art. The Black Racer is glowing/pulsing with energy as if he's the focal point as Superman seems to be thrown back violently by some kind of force. Did Superman punch a force field or something that caused a back lash? I find it hard to believe the Black Racer can no-sell a punch from him but whatever, at least it's not Thor.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh okay.

Hmm, it's not in this issue, do you have a scan? Has to be very clear cut to counter that art. The Black Racer is glowing/pulsing with energy as if he's the focal point as Superman seems to be thrown back violently by some kind of force. Did Superman punch a force field or something that caused a back lash? I find it hard to believe the Black Racer can no-sell a punch from him but whatever, at least it's not Thor.
Its in the same issue. Thor would've broken his hands bro.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its in the same issue. Thor would've broken his hands bro.
Nah... Thor would've shattered the moon and any surrounding planets nearby.
shifty

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Nah... Thor would've shattered the moon and any surrounding planets nearby.
shifty
With mjolnir and several strikes?

zopzop
Originally posted by abhilegend
With mjolnir and several strikes?
And it was a shared feat with Gorr.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by zopzop
And it was a shared feat with Gorr.
I guess... If you consider stabbing and slicing viable ways to produce shockwaves.

Like I said b4, shared feat in that Gorr's face was the immovable object to Thor's unstoppable force (Mjolnir slam).

zopzop
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I guess... If you consider stabbing and slicing viable ways to produce shockwaves.

Like I said b4, shared feat in that Gorr's face was the immovable object to Thor's unstoppable force (Mjolnir slam).
But it was still shared, that's the point. It wasn't like Gorr was just standing there allowing Thor to wail away on him, he was actively fighting back.

Galan007
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Has the Black Racer ever been in a fight? There's also this:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212490_10.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212491_11.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212492_12.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212494_13.jpg
Highfather>>Scott Free(empowered as a New God)>>Black Racer. peaches

Endless Mike
Black Racer is also the Black Flash

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Galan007
There's also this:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212490_10.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212491_11.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212492_12.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212494_13.jpg
Highfather>>Scott Free(empowered as a New God)>>Black Racer. peaches

Hmm, so the Black Racer's Achilles heel is his scythe? Makes sense based on the fight I posted.

You'd think he'd own New Gods as he can steal their souls but go figure. Anymore fights of his that you can think of? Trying to establish a level for him based on fights.

Because based on what I'm seeing, I'm going to give it to Hela in a straight up fight. He can try and remove her Cloak (Although it's not common knowledge) but it seems like he can be similarly crippled with his scythe thing. He did take that Superman punch like a champ.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its in the same issue. Thor would've broken his hands bro.

I can see the reasoning behind it but at the same time, Superman's hand is smoking and he was blown back so there was definitely some sort of energy released by the Black Racer. I'm not willing to attribute it to either completely.

Not really.

SevenShackles
Originally posted by zopzop
He isn't a rep of Death like Hela is.

He's an aspect of the actual ABSTRACT of Death like Death of the Endless and Nekron! He represents Death as Inevitability :
http://s16.postimg.org/6lsmjxc69/death2.jpg

He's simply beyond Hela.

Thanks for the info I didn't know that about him. thumb up

complexbrother
Hela

Golgo13
Originally posted by Galan007
There's also this:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212490_10.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212491_11.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212492_12.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16212494_13.jpg
Highfather>>Scott Free(empowered as a New God)>>Black Racer. peaches

Cant see the pics, but how does this translate in a victory for Hela?

Galan007
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You'd think he'd own New Gods as he can steal their souls but go figure. Anymore fights of his that you can think of? Trying to establish a level for him based on fights. BR is a conceptual being. He's not going to kill anyone unless it's 'their time'. It is nearly impossible to say what he could do in an all-out fight.

He literally embodies Death, though, so I'd *think* that alone should put him above Hela, but admittedly, I know nothing about her.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Cant see the pics, but how does this translate in a victory for Hela? I don't believe I said anything about Hela winning.

JakeTheBank
In terms of "status", Black Racer should be above Hela.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I can see the reasoning behind it but at the same time, Superman's hand is smoking and he was blown back so there was definitely some sort of energy released by the Black Racer. I'm not willing to attribute it to either completely.

Not really.
It was explicitly his attack that caused the shockwave and scarred the moon.

Yeah, he would've broken his entire arm.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its in the same issue. Thor would've broken his hands bro. Originally posted by abhilegend
The scar which was shown by that blast was explicitly stated to be caused by superman. nah. still not buying it years later.

1) superman's folly against the black racer. in other words he over-stepped his boundaries and got punished. the little exchange after that narration even reiterated that.

2) the same exact energy that black racer is using to carry that guy is what is all over the panel there where superman is being flung back. you can see the same energy outline and everything

3) smoking hand from energy discharge

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
It was explicitly his attack that caused the shockwave and scarred the moon.

Yeah, he would've broken his entire arm.

What PG said. At no point was it explicitly made clear. You need to stop passing off your interpretation as some kind of non-debatable fact. All the art points to Black Racer discharging energy and the narration can be taken a number of ways. And I know how important artistic evidence is to you. smile

By punching a New God who's hardly invulnerable? Thor's not that fragile. And he'd laugh at Superman being deterred because his fist has a little boo boo.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
In terms of "status", Black Racer should be above Hela.

Yeah, definitely. He seems to be a representative of Abstract Death. Unfortunately what years of comics have taught us, it's that status =/= power.

abhilegend
Originally posted by psycho gundam
nah. still not buying it years later.

1) superman's folly against the black racer. in other words he over-stepped his boundaries and got punished. the little exchange after that narration even reiterated that.

2) the same exact energy that black racer is using to carry that guy is what is all over the panel there where superman is being flung back. you can see the same energy outline and everything

3) smoking hand from energy discharge
Then its good that I don't give a single damn about what you buy or don't.

Also "His grief and folly" was specified in the same sentence. There was no indication that Racer did anything there.

Where? The scene where there was a shockwave ripping through?

Energy blasts don't make smoking hands either. If superman was really hit by an energy blast, his whole body would've been smoking.Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What PG said. At no point was it explicitly made clear. You need to stop passing off your interpretation as some kind of non-debatable fact. All the art points to Black Racer discharging energy and the narration can be taken a number of ways. And I know how important artistic evidence is to you. smile

By punching a New God who's hardly invulnerable? Thor's not that fragile. And he'd laugh at Superman being deterred because his fist has a little boo boo.



Yeah, definitely. He seems to be a representative of Abstract Death. Unfortunately what years of comics have taught us, it's that status =/= power.
Riding on somebody else's argument now? Lawlz.

My bad. Thor would've broken every bone in his body.

Diesldude
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where?

But I just remembered him blasting Superman away:
http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16212172_ManOfSteel116p03.jpg http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16212173_ManOfSteel116p04.jpg

Still, hardly something that puts him above Hela. Especially since Clark wasn't 100% or anything IIRC.

I'm curious, how did you connect these 2 scans? I've never seen them posted side by side or one after the other. How did you assume that that 2nd scan was right after the first in the same book?
Do you see the black racer blasting superman? Where did the parademons appear from? or apokolips? How? I'm really interested in your answer. Thanks

ODG
Originally posted by zopzop
And it was a shared feat with Gorr. Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I guess... If you consider stabbing and slicing viable ways to produce shockwaves.

Like I said b4, shared feat in that Gorr's face was the immovable object to Thor's unstoppable force (Mjolnir slam). thumb up

Gorr was stabbing. Mjolnir was smashing. Granted, the idea of Thor tanking stabs and cuts that produced planet-shattering shockwaves is retarded intriguing, the narration's focus on Mjolnir is prominent, obvious and unequivocal.

zopzop
Originally posted by ODG
thumb up

Gorr was stabbing. Mjolnir was smashing. Granted, the idea of Thor tanking stabs and cuts that produced planet-shattering shockwaves is retarded intriguing, the narration's focus on Mjolnir is prominent, obvious and unequivocal.
Then it would be easy to produce scans of Thor displaying planet shattering power on his own right? He has 40+ years of appearances to draw on and you know the character extremely well.

comicfan11
Black Racer.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Diesldude
I'm curious, how did you connect these 2 scans? I've never seen them posted side by side or one after the other. How did you assume that that 2nd scan was right after the first in the same book?
Do you see the black racer blasting superman? Where did the parademons appear from? or apokolips? How? I'm really interested in your answer. Thanks

no expression

How did I connect the two scans? Because the second scan is the next direct scan after the first. I can point you towards the comic if you want to confirm but Abhil already did. He also explained what was happening in that scene.

If you want to know why I posted both? I flipped through the book to find the scene and I posted the second scan because I wanted to make sure I put up everything relevant. I'm not one for selective scans.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by zopzop
Then it would be easy to produce scans of Thor displaying planet shattering power on his own right? He has 40+ years of appearances to draw on and you know the character extremely well.

You know, it always struck me as extremely retarded when people act like nothing besides destroying a planet can cement Thor's striking power.

Also, you want planet busting scans to confirm planet busting? The entire scene puts emphasis on Mjolnir smashing and Gorr stabbing, infecting Thor from the inside etc.

zopzop
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You know, it always struck me as extremely retarded when people act like nothing besides destroying a planet can cement Thor's striking power.

Also, you want planet busting scans to confirm planet busting? The entire scene puts emphasis on Mjolnir smashing and Gorr stabbing, infecting Thor from the inside etc.
You know it always strikes me as desperate when rabid fans can't provide scans backing up their statements and have to resort to insults.

So I take Thor has NEVER busted a planet by his lonesome yes?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by zopzop
You know it always strikes me as desperate when rabid fans can't provide scans backing up their statements and have to resort to insults.

So I take Thor has NEVER busted a planet by his lonesome yes?

I'm a rabid fan when I don't think Thor needs to bust a planet when he can bust Surtur's face? Okay.

Nope, I don't think so. But I don't understand why it's necessary. You're trying to use a lack of evidence as evidence that Thor couldn't have possibly provided the striking power that was busting the planet. That's faulty logic. Especially since the entire scene was emphazing Thor hitting Gorr in the face with Mjolnir.

zopzop
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm a rabid fan when I don't think Thor needs to bust a planet when he can bust Surtur's face? Okay.

Nope, I don't think so. But I don't understand why it's necessary. You're trying to use a lack of evidence as evidence that Thor couldn't have possibly provided the striking power that was busting the planet. That's faulty logic. Especially since the entire scene was emphazing Thor hitting Gorr in the face with Mjolnir.
So you're basically confirming what I suspected and Thor DOES NOT have any planet busting feats that are not shared?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by zopzop
So you're basically confirming what I suspected and Thor DOES NOT have any planet busting feats that are not shared?

Not that I know of. I'm assuming you don't want a scan of Mjolnir being said to hit with planet destroying force, destroying something with planet destroying force or hurting someone who can withstand planteray level force and has in the same comic? IIRC, Thor/Hercules fists were described as destroying worlds when they closed that indimensional portal.

You want something like Bill's fight with Stardust?

Also, I don't believe it was a shared feat in the Hulk/She-Hulk sense when it was Thor hammering Gorr's face. Gorr was stabbing Thor and infecting him. Thor was doing the smashing.

TheGodKiller
^Just drop it dude. This is zopzop, and he'll continue trolling until he activates his flopflop mode.

zopzop
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not that I know of. I'm assuming you don't want a scan of Mjolnir being said to hit with planet destroying force, destroying something with planet destroying force or hurting someone who can withstand planteray level force and has in the same comic? IIRC, Thor/Hercules fists were described as destroying worlds when they closed that indimensional portal.

You want something like Bill's fight with Stardust?

Also, I don't believe it was a shared feat in the Hulk/She-Hulk sense when it was Thor hammering Gorr's face. Gorr was stabbing Thor and infecting him. Thor was doing the smashing.
Described doesn't mean anything. For example, Thor/Hercules arm wrestling match : we see the plane they are fighting on survive just fine. Sure pillar of stone they were using to arm wrestle on shattered but that's about it.

During Secret Wars, when Hulk and crew were buried, Thor's "mightiest" blows were heard as mere tapping sounds because they were buried so deep. If he really had planet busting power, he could have freed them with ease.

The closest Thor has come on his own was when he had his belt of Strength and struck Exitar with his "mightiest" blow and the planet shook.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^Just drop it dude. This is zopzop, and he'll continue trolling until he activates his flopflop mode.
Speaking of trolls.........

TheGodKiller
^I forgot. You're already in your flopflop mode.

zopzop
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^I forgot. You're already in your flopflop mode.
Now I see why you were banned from that other forum.

TheGodKiller
Which other forum? I have never been banned on KMC. Ever.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by zopzop
Described doesn't mean anything. For example, Thor/Hercules arm wrestling match : we see the plane they are fighting on survive just fine. Sure pillar of stone they were using to arm wrestle on shattered but that's about it.

During Secret Wars, when Hulk and crew were buried, Thor's "mightiest" blows were heard as mere tapping sounds because they were buried so deep. If he really had planet busting power, he could have freed them with ease.

The closest Thor has come on his own was when he had his belt of Strength and struck Exitar with his "mightiest" blow and the planet shook.

Actually, it has value. They closed a dimensional portal with their bare fists. no expression And I can post scans of Mjolnir hurting beings who'd laugh at planet busting. A great deal. The narration said they were generating enough force to knock the planet they were on out of orbit.

laughing out loud

So what? Did I say Thor can always bust planets? No Herald, period, is always at planet busting level. Not even Above Herald level beings are always at planet busting levels. What kind of ass backwards, nonsense logic is that? We've seen Cosmic beings cut loose on Earth without destroying a city, what does that ultimately change?

Thor has gone above and far beyond planet busting levels. You just have this idiotic notion that you have to have destroyed a planet to be impressive. And Thor just did so with his fight with Gorr.

zopzop
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Actually, it has value. They closed a dimensional portal with their bare fists. no expression And I can post scans of Mjolnir hurting beings who'd laugh at planet busting. A great deal. The narration said they were generating enough force to knock the planet they were on out of orbit.

laughing out loud

So what? Did I say Thor can always bust planets? No Herald, period, is always at planet busting level. Not even Above Herald level beings are always at planet busting levels. What kind of ass backwards, nonsense logic is that? We've seen Cosmic beings cut loose on Earth without destroying a city, what does that ultimately change?

Thor has gone above and far beyond planet busting levels. You just have this idiotic notion that you have to have destroyed a planet to be impressive. And Thor just did so with his fight with Gorr.
Again, closing dimensions with their hands isn't quantifiable. It's like Herc lifting the heavens.

Regarding the Herc/Thor arm wrestling comments by the narrator, the narrator could have been engaging in hyperbole. It happens.

Yes, the Thor/Gorr fight was busting a planet and a moon. That's a shared feat. I'm asking does Thor have a planet busting feat by himself. It's not like Thor is some obscure character. He's been around for a while and has been featured in MULTIPLE books.

No one is saying "Thor isn't impressive". I'm just asking if he's EVER busted a planet on his own. That's it. Apparently the answer is : no.

Endless Mike
Thor and BRB destroyed Surtur's portal which was larger than stars, even if you divide that energy yield in 2 you get billions of times planetbusting

Rage.Of.Olympus
Doesn't matter. Shared feat, not a planet, *insert garbage excuse* etc.

Thor could hit Gorr hard enough to destroy a Galaxy and I don't think it'd count.

Originally posted by zopzop
Again, closing dimensions with their hands isn't quantifiable. It's like Herc lifting the heavens.

Regarding the Herc/Thor arm wrestling comments by the narrator, the narrator could have been engaging in hyperbole. It happens.

Yes, the Thor/Gorr fight was busting a planet and a moon. That's a shared feat. I'm asking does Thor have a planet busting feat by himself. It's not like Thor is some obscure character. He's been around for a while and has been featured in MULTIPLE books.

No one is saying "Thor isn't impressive". I'm just asking if he's EVER busted a planet on his own. That's it. Apparently the answer is : no.

It being unquantifiable doesn't mean it isn't as or more impressive. The narration described their power as capable of destroying worlds after all.

It does, but I do find it amusing how hyperbole only comes up when it's convenient.

Shared if you mean in the sense that Thor was smashing and Gorr was tanking. Nope, never happened as far as I know.

What did I say to you like 3 posts ago?

abhilegend
Why are we arguing Thor's striking feats anyway? Has Hela taken hits from Thor and shrugged them off?

Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't even know how it came up. I don't think so. Thor doesn't hit like a girl. I still don't believe Superman's punch did anything.

celeyhyga17
Black Racer prolly wins.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't even know how it came up. I don't think so. Thor doesn't hit like a girl. I still don't believe Superman's punch did anything.
Yeah, thor hits like a chubby newborn. Besides scarring a moon by his punch?

psycho gundam
Originally posted by abhilegend
Then its good that I don't give a single damn about what you buy or don't.

Also "His grief and folly" was specified in the same sentence. There was no indication that Racer did anything there.

Where? The scene where there was a shockwave ripping through? . The energy is the most damming of the evidence against it, you have to see it's the same, if not, it's simply denile

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, thor hits like a chubby newborn. Besides scarring a moon by his punch?

Still hits harder then Superman. Prove that, please.

abhilegend
Originally posted by psycho gundam
The energy is the most damming of the evidence against it, you have to see it's the same, if not, it's simply denile
Which conveniently only smokes his hand when he was fully hit by the energy blast? Its damning for you, not me.Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Still hits harder then Superman. Prove that, please.
Nah. Already proved.

ODG
Originally posted by zopzop
Then it would be easy to produce scans of Thor displaying planet shattering power on his own right? He has 40+ years of appearances to draw on and you know the character extremely well. This definitely is the most witless post you've ever responded to me with. I nearly fell out of my chair over the sheer stupidity that made you type this. What makes it a paradox, is that it bears correct spelling, yet contains no semblance of actual human conscious thought.

It's like a dog sh@t on your keyboard and the sh1t nuggets inexplicably typed that post out of pure coincidence. I don't know whether to report you or give you applause.

Endless Mike
The Thor downplaying is pathetic, but Black Racer still wins.

zopzop
Originally posted by ODG
This definitely is the most witless post you've ever responded to me with. I nearly fell out of my chair over the sheer stupidity that made you type this. What makes it a paradox, is that it bears correct spelling, yet contains no semblance of actual human conscious thought.

It's like a dog sh@t on your keyboard and the sh1t nuggets inexplicably typed that post out of pure coincidence. I don't know whether to report you or give you applause.
Go ahead and report it. Let the Moderators see how you act on this forum. I wasn't even responding to you when you jumped in with your usual trolling.

And between you and Rage resorting to personal attacks instead of scans, I guess I was right.

ODG
Originally posted by zopzop
Go ahead and report it. Let the Moderators see how you act on this forum. I wasn't even responding to you when you jumped in with your usual trolling.

And between you and Rage resorting to personal attacks instead of scans, I guess I was right. Actually, you quoted my post. So you were responding to me. In your quest to play the perpetual rape victim, you can't even keep things straight.

This isn't a personal attack. If I said your mother was ugly, that would be a personal attack. Your post was just stupid. Supremely, infinitely stupid. That doesn't make you stupid, because you're not a mongoloid. You're smarter than that. Which is why posts like that only insult our intelligence.

How do you even manage to type that kind of post without bleeding out from your ears?

psycho gundam
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Originally posted by abhilegend
Which conveniently only smokes his hand when he was fully hit by the energy blast? Its damning for you, not me.
you mean the fist right next to the source of the energy? the energy is there if you allow yourself to just see it

concession accepted

zopzop
Originally posted by ODG
Actually, you quoted my post. So you were responding to me. In your quest to play the perpetual rape victim, you can't even keep things straight.

This isn't a personal attack. If I said your mother was ugly, that would be a personal attack. Your post was just stupid. Supremely, infinitely stupid. That doesn't make you stupid, because you're not a mongoloid. You're smarter than that. Which is why posts like that only insult our intelligence.

How do you even manage to type that kind of post without bleeding out from your ears?
You'd be wrong. I was quoting abhi, quoting cele and you started with your insults. When I asked for scans of Thor busting planets on his own you continued to e-rage and provided nothing by way of proof. Then you threatened to call in the mods.

ODG
Originally posted by zopzop
You'd be wrong. I was quoting abhi, quoting cele and you started with your insults. My first post wasn't an insult. I pointed out that anyone who thought that planets were shattering because Gorr's stabbing of Thor was causing shockwaves would be retarded. Did that even apply to you?

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Guess so by the way you've taken such personal offense. Nice self-ownage. thumb up Originally posted by zopzop
When I asked for scans of Thor busting planets on his own you continued to e-rage and provided nothing by way of proof. Proof of what? Thor was busting planets in his fight with Gorr through sheer collateral damage. The proof of that is in the Gorr fight. Making an imbelic request for something else hasn't remedied your retarded thinking. It's like if someone mentioned Thanos inadvertently destroyed a planet in his fight with Drax, you'd stumble in like a drooling retard and demand proof that Thanos could destroy a planet.

Now how stupid does that sound? Stupid enough to be the dumbest thing you've ever said on KMC. Flash-fact. When someone makes a Revamped zopzop Respect Thread, that post will be right at the top of the Stupid Feats Section.

And my derision of the complete lack of thought you put into that post isn't e-rage. It's just utter derision of that post. E-rage would be like somebody hating their own two-faced hypocrisy being laid out for everyone to see that they would actively and consciously argue with their past quotations over several pages across three different threads. Originally posted by zopzop
Then you threatened to call in the mods. Sarcasm is completely lost on you. If people could be banned for being stupid on KMC, the community population would drop to about 7 posters.

zopzop
Originally posted by ODG
My first post wasn't an insult. I pointed out that anyone who thought that planets were shattering because Gorr's stabbing of Thor was causing shockwaves would be retarded. Did that even apply to you?

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Guess so by the way you've taken such personal offense. Nice self-ownage. thumb up Proof of what? Thor was busting planets in his fight with Gorr through sheer collateral damage. The proof of that is in the Gorr fight. Making an imbelic request for something else hasn't remedied your retarded thinking. It's like if someone mentioned Thanos inadvertently destroyed a planet in his fight with Drax, you'd stumble in like a drooling retard and demand proof that Thanos could destroy a planet.

Now how stupid does that sound? Stupid enough to be the dumbest thing you've ever said on KMC. Flash-fact. When someone makes a Revamped zopzop Respect Thread, that post will be right at the top of the Stupid Feats Section.

And my derision of the complete lack of thought you put into that post isn't e-rage. It's just utter derision of that post. E-rage would be like somebody hating their own two-faced hypocrisy being laid out for everyone to see that they would actively and consciously argue with their past quotations over several pages across three different threads. Sarcasm is completely lost on you. If people could be banned for being stupid on KMC, the community population would drop to about 7 posters.
More of the same from you.

Still waiting on those scans of Thor busting planets that's not a shared feat.

TheGodKiller
^You have reached a new level of retard in this thread. I can't even begin to imagine why either Rage or OneDumb would bother entertaining your nonsense.

zopzop
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^You have reached a new level of retard in this thread. I can't even begin to imagine why either Rage or OneDumb would bother entertaining your nonsense.
I expect nothing less from you. Troll on.

abhilegend
I think Zop is being unreasonable here but that's no excuse for the bashing pro-Thor group is doing here.

ODG
Originally posted by zopzop
More of the same from you.

Still waiting on those scans of Thor busting planets that's not a shared feat. Originally posted by zopzop ODG
I expect nothing less from you. Troll on.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by abhilegend
I think Zop is being unreasonable here but that's no excuse for the bashing pro-Thor group is doing here.
I agree about the bashing, but it is a ridiculous question to ask when there is overwhelming proof already shown.

I mean indirectly shattering celestial bodies is infinitely more impressive than directly busting it up. The difference is astronomical even if u factor the whole "shared" feat point of view.

U reap what u sow...

zopzop
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I agree about the bashing, but it is a ridiculous question to ask when there is overwhelming proof already shown.

I mean indirectly shattering celestial bodies is infinitely more impressive than directly busting it up. The difference is astronomical even if u factor the whole "shared" feat point of view.

U reap what u sow...
What proof? Post the scans please. Show me Thor busting a planet on his own. Like I said before, this isn't some obscure character with a few appearances. He has 40+ years of history and multiple books he's appeared in aside from his own on going series. This shouldn't be that hard.

Fact is, Gorr/Thor buckling a planet and moon is a SHARED feat.

abhilegend
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I agree about the bashing, but it is a ridiculous question to ask when there is overwhelming proof already shown.

I mean indirectly shattering celestial bodies is infinitely more impressive than directly busting it up. The difference is astronomical even if u factor the whole "shared" feat point of view.

U reap what u sow...
I don't think the same about the planet smashing like you, but I agree that demanding a past feat to prove that a present feat is valid is indeed ridiculous. Still the bashing isn't the way to disprove that.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by zopzop
What proof? Post the scans please. Show me Thor busting a planet on his own. Like I said before, this isn't some obscure character with a few appearances. He has 40+ years of history and multiple books he's appeared in aside from his own on going series. This shouldn't be that hard.

Fact is, Gorr/Thor buckling a planet and moon is a SHARED feat.
Lol. Really?

Let's get down to the crux of the matter? What point are you really trying to get at? That he can't bust a planet when no one else is involved?

Please let us know.. Ure beginning to confuse me.

celeyhyga17
We've derailed this thread long enuff. You're invited to my new thread.

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