JVA: Big Barda Vs Valkyrie

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Golgo13
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celeyhyga17
Barda has better stats. And I'm not talking bout measurements.

beatboks
As Characters go Brunhilde is a shite load more interesting.

Barda may be over double her strength but that is where the advantage ends. They're about on par for Durability and damage soak. Certainly skill, and also speed. I don't see Barda's mega rod doing her much good as really Dragonfang should be able to absorb it's blasts. Both have dimensional travel ( as leader of the valkerie I assume Brunhilde still has that ability??). I would say based on teh strength and even in other areas Barda takes it, unless Brunhilde can make her a Valkyrie (which IIRC is one of her powers to make other women avatars) and win by bringing her to her cause.

JakeTheBank
Valkyrie has more than a couple of feats where in spite of being over matched in terms of physicality and power, she's able to hold her own against Thor. If Val is at her best, the stat advantage (while certainly being an advantage) Barda has wouldn't be an overwhelming one.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Valkyrie has more than a couple of feats where in spite of being over matched in terms of physicality and power, she's able to hold her own against Thor. If Val is at her best, the stat advantage (while certainly being an advantage) Barda has wouldn't be an overwhelming one. Barda also has her mega rod. While Val could certainly block Barda's long ranged attack, it still adds another disadvantage for her.

zopzop
Valkyrie just recently owned the following while SUPPOSEDLY holding back :
Black Widow
She-Hulk
Thundra
Storm
Hippolyta
Misty Knight
Tarantula
Elektra
Captain Marvel
and one or two more I'm probably missing.

Do you people see Barda being able to replicate that?

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by zopzop
Valkyrie just recently owned the following while SUPPOSEDLY holding back :
Black Widow
She-Hulk
Thundra
Storm
Hippolyta
Misty Knight
Tarantula
Elektra
Captain Marvel
and one or two more I'm probably missing.

Do you people see Barda being able to replicate that?
Why not? Barda is Wondy level in strength. She's as skilled if not more skilled, plus she has ranged capabilities.

abhilegend
Originally posted by zopzop
Valkyrie just recently owned the following while SUPPOSEDLY holding back :
Black Widow
She-Hulk
Thundra
Storm
Hippolyta
Misty Knight
Tarantula
Elektra
Captain Marvel
and one or two more I'm probably missing.

Do you people see Barda being able to replicate that?
No. But its not Val's regular performance either.

zopzop
Originally posted by abhilegend
No. But its not Val's regular performance either.
Both you and I know it's BS. But that's just how Marvel rolls nowadays.

abhilegend
Originally posted by zopzop
Both you and I know it's BS. But that's just how Marvel rolls nowadays.
Not at KMC though. Its a huge outlier. If we're going by high end outliers, she knocked out Surfer, Dr. Strange, Namor and Hulk once with a surprise shot too.

Q99
Originally posted by zopzop
Valkyrie just recently owned the following while SUPPOSEDLY holding back :
Black Widow
She-Hulk
Thundra
Storm
Hippolyta
Misty Knight
Tarantula
Elektra
Captain Marvel
and one or two more I'm probably missing.

Do you people see Barda being able to replicate that?

Captain Marvel, She-Hulk, and Tundra would be the tough bits... but it is doable.

Several of the names listed are no help against her. Some like Storm are potentially helpful but also could be taken out fast.

Rage.Of.Olympus
^No way Barda can take on that line-up and win. Lol.

Current Valkyrie wrecks shop, too much for Barda. Heck, her original incarnation was able to hurt freaking Odin:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16241079_Fearless_Defenders_04-016.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16241086_Fearless_Defenders_04-017.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16241090_Fearless_Defenders_04-018.jpg

A lot of the time in vs. threads, I just see literally only Bada's best feats but Valkyrie's highs are just as good if not better. Barda was once able to put down Superman with her Omega Rod but Valkyrie's taken on Thor and Hulk. She's also really fast:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3378/defenders10905.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8282/defenders10906.jpg

In her Immortal form anyways.

Golgo13
Originally posted by zopzop
Valkyrie just recently owned the following while SUPPOSEDLY holding back :
Black Widow
She-Hulk
Thundra
Storm
Hippolyta
Misty Knight
Tarantula
Elektra
Captain Marvel
and one or two more I'm probably missing.

Do you people see Barda being able to replicate that?

Scans?

Rage.Of.Olympus
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16206342_Fearless_Defenders_006-002.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16206343_Fearless_Defenders_006-003.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16206344_Fearless_Defenders_006-004.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16206345_Fearless_Defenders_006-005.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16206346_Fearless_Defenders_006-006.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16206347_Fearless_Defenders_006-007.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16206348_Fearless_Defenders_006-008.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16206349_Fearless_Defenders_006-009.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16206350_Fearless_Defenders_006-010.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16206351_Fearless_Defenders_006-011.jpg

Golgo13
I could definitely see Barda taking most of that lineup, especially since they weren't fighting all that intelligently. Storm didn't want to harm her and because of that, was taken down.

If Barda can use her Mother Box and Megarod intelligently, she can take Valkyrie, IMO.

celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
^No way Barda can take on that line-up and win. Lol.

Current Valkyrie wrecks shop, too much for Barda. Heck, her original incarnation was able to hurt freaking Odin:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16241079_Fearless_Defenders_04-016.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16241086_Fearless_Defenders_04-017.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16241090_Fearless_Defenders_04-018.jpg

A lot of the time in vs. threads, I just see literally only Bada's best feats but Valkyrie's highs are just as good if not better. Barda was once able to put down Superman with her Omega Rod but Valkyrie's taken on Thor and Hulk. She's also really fast:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3378/defenders10905.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8282/defenders10906.jpg

In her Immortal form anyways.
Damn man... U be pullin scans out of thin air.
Seriously though, she really can't hurt Odin.

Rage.Of.Olympus
But.....she did. It's pretty crazy, but she was created by Odin himself as his first Valkyrie a long time ago according to this current series.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I could definitely see Barda taking most of that lineup, especially since they weren't fighting all that intelligently. Storm didn't want to harm her and because of that, was taken down.

If Barda can use her Mother Box and Megarod intelligently, she can take Valkyrie, IMO.

Fair enough, they weren't giving it their all either.

I don't know. Dragonfang can block any of her energy blasts but something like a sword through the chest will do more to incapacitate Barda then a mace to the face will to Valkyrie.

leonidas
i'd still take barda for a decent majority. val has some nice highs, but some of her lows are....low. given her overall depiction, i'd def side with barda who has pretty consistently been in ww's tier.

iceman24567
Val is lucky a man wasnt present otherwise she would be on the floor on all fours

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by leonidas
i'd still take barda for a decent majority. val has some nice highs, but some of her lows are....low. given her overall depiction, i'd def side with barda who has pretty consistently been in ww's tier.

Current Valkyrie's dark rage mode only has two showings so that is her average. If she stays her normal mortal self, Barda wins after a decent scrap depending on what level they respectfully are.

If she becomes Rage, she breaks Bada imho.

leonidas
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Current Valkyrie's dark rage mode only has two showings so that is her average. If she stays her normal mortal self, Barda wins after a decent scrap depending on what level they respectfully are.

If she becomes Rage, she breaks Bada imho.

fair enough. i've only seen what you've shown me of this new incarnation. that's...weird though. not sure val really needed that sort of push. lots of other characters in the thor pantheon could have done with that kind of focus. least imo.

comicfan11
Big Barda

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