Tactical Geniuses: Ra's Al Ghul & Vandal Savage Vs Baron Zemo & Norman Osborn

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JakeTheBank
Zemo.

Golgo13
Zemo does what? Not too familiar with him, sorry. Is he smarter than Vandal?

Badabing
Team DC. They have centuries, literally, of experience.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Golgo13
Zemo does what? Not too familiar with him, sorry. Is he smarter than Vandal?

The original Thunderbolts team comes to mind. Probably one of the best schemes ever, tbh. There's also the fact he's led the Masters of Evil to success against the Avengers and his tactical prowess is often compared to Captain America. He's inferior in stats, but in a prep-war, I'd give it to Zemo.

And stormin' Norman managed to worm his way into position as one of the most powerful and influential men in the world.

Golgo13
In terms of prep, Ra's is close to Batman who I rank over Zemo. Vandal has overthrown governments and powerful men throughout history.

Plus, Ra's has his own city with the most dangerous men/women on the planet. Not to mention the best tech and magic the world has to offer according to Tynion. stick out tongue

Digi
DC in a horrid stomp, given any kind of prep.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by Golgo13
In terms of prep, Ra's is close to Batman who I rank over Zemo. Vandal has overthrown governments and powerful men throughout history.

Plus, Ra's has his own city with the most dangerous men/women on the planet. Not to mention the best tech and magic the world has to offer according to Tynion. stick out tongue

Ra's hardly ever does anything with prep, though. Yes, he's old as dirt and yes, he has plenty of resources, but given his status and alleged threat level, he's not done anything that is beyond Zemo.

Zemo's manipulated the most dangerous men/women on his planet numerous times.

ares834
Originally posted by Digi
DC in a horrid stomp, given any kind of prep.

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SamZED
Originally posted by JakeTheBank

And stormin' Norman managed to worm his way into position as one of the most powerful and influential men in the world. And that's one hell of a feat concidering he's a world-known psychopath and a mass murderer.

Dont get me started on the many schemes Goblin used to F up Parker's life.

pym-ftw
How is this a stomp in DC's favor?

Zemo iirc still has the stones, and leads his own hi tech army

And Norman has the best tech here by far...

With prep I think this is spite the other way

Digi
Originally posted by pym-ftw
How is this a stomp in DC's favor?

Zemo iirc still has the stones, and leads his own hi tech army

And Norman has the best tech here by far...

With prep I think this is spite the other way

I wasn't include the stones. Didn't seem in the spirit of the thread.

pym-ftw
Even if its not standard equipment, wouldn't prep kinda force it in...

That said i'd love a non amped Zemo vs Ra's sword fight

Golgo13
I thought he didn't have the stones anymore. This is pure tactical prowess here.

pym-ftw
Well Norman is an idiot, as far as battlefield tactics

That said Zemo is among the best, but I view him vs Savage as a stalemate

LeonBuco666
I think cyclops would be a better fit here than norman

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