Originally posted by wolverinos
Lots of stuff I don't agree with
So you're of the opinion that we should be using Hulk, Prime, and Trion Juggernaut, who are severely amped, but we should use Galactus when he is literally weaker?
How does that make any sense to you?
Galactus isn't amped when he eats, that's ridiculous. Galactus is operating at his normal or full power when he eats. Per forum rules even, which I'm guessing you've been on the receiving end a couple times of those pesky rules...
But what you're saying is so illogical and nonsensical that there's no way you could expect anyone to follow you.
"Hulk should be amped, but Galactus being fed counts as an amp so he can't eat"
Like I said and you ignored, Wolverine's speed however isn't. Well to Hulk anyway. If she can perceive Wolverine in a way that he's a statue, then Hulk isn't moving much faster.
Well yeah, Galactus is that much faster than Wolverine... but anyway...
She is Galactus' daughter. Everything she did in that series she said she only could do at a fraction of Galactus' power.
And you ignored the part where she stated "Human cognitive level clockspeed", and "Their grindingly slow timescale". Unless you think Galacta operates in a higher timescale than her father who is way more powerful than her.
And you ignored the section where Surfer was moving. Galactus tagged him while Surfer was actively trying to get out of the way of him. I can see why you'd ignore this because well... it destroys everything you said.
As for the second part. Galactus hit Surfer before Surfer could react or do anything. Who I shouldn't have to say is much faster than Hulk.
And Hulk will just be jumping in one direction at far slower speeds than Surfer anyway. Something like this:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/SecretWars09-20.jpg
You'll notice that Hulk was way too fast for Galactus there.
And have you ever actually seen the Galactus/F4 fights? Here's some funny ones with Torch who I presume is the one he has problems with:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/FantasticFour49-04.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/FantasticFour49-05.jpg
(Surfer)
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/Fantastic_Four_122_04.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/Fantastic_Four_122_11.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/Fantastic_Four_122_21.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Heroes/Fantastic_Four_122_22.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Heralds/fantasticfour51919zt4.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Heralds/fantasticfour51920oa7.jpg
http://s238.photobucket.com/user/Branlactus/media/Heralds/fantasticfour51921nk9.jpg.html
It's mere speculation that WBH can't break Galactus' head off on my part? OK. I only just showed Galactus taking shots from two abstract level beings in a fight that Oblivion thought was going to end everything that the Chaos King couldn't.
He has never been hurt by Thing. He's only been dragged down by him. And he took two punches from Zeus before a Thunderbolt, and he took those two punches way better than Hulk did.
But of course, Galactus was weak everytime he's ever fought Thing, and he was weak when he fought Zeus too. By weak, I mean he didn't eat. As well as Chaos King was amping Zeus and CK's entire army was in Zeus at the time.
And WBH did not in any way destroy a dimension. Stop lying. And none of the characters he destroyed were herald level.
Like I said, the moon bounced off him to no effect. Although I'd like to see Hulk simply tank a moon being thrown at him by an abstract level being.
It can't be a factor because it's not steady? You mean like... PC characters?
But the Juggernaut feat was its lowest feat, and that was at a time when Thor would experience a sickness that made him weaker although he still stopped Juggernaut... Other than that, it took down a hungry Galactus, blew through Exitar's inner shell which was more durable than his outer, and blew through Zelia who was empowered by Odin and all of the Dark Gods, and she on her own was Odin level.
And the one he fired against Galactus like I said, was an amped one. Which weaker ones have been proven to be far above Hulk's damage output... unless you believe WBH can rip through a being with Odin's level of power, Odin's actual power, and an entire race of Dark Gods inside her. Which you probably do, so stupid question on my part.
What I find funny is that you think Galactus can tear a Celestial in half, yet you think WBH should be able to punch his head off. What kind of logical conclusion is that?
Considering I just showed him tanking a Godblast along with him also tanking two abstracts...
I mean, I could also show the In-Betweener fight I guess where he shows immense durability...
http://s238.photobucket.com/user/Branlactus/library/Fights/In-Betweener?sort=6&page=1
But really, you think he's just a glass canon who can rip Celestials in half but get his head torn off by Hulk. So what's the point?
I realize she did this from a "safe" distance, but considering Hulk's shockwaves are the thing that's always brought up (even by you in this exact post), it seems like a neat thing to bring up. Also lol at you for thinking he destroyed a dimension, but Umar was at a safe distance. She was on the planet.
But I just showed you Galactus taking a Godblast while Umar collapses from a hammer hit. Do you not figure there's a correlation there? Here, let's go with the exact same thing then. Here Galactus tanks a hammer hit to the face:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Scrier%20and%20Other/ThorAnnual036.jpg
There you go with the amping shit again. Here is two at ends points in the very same post:
Originally posted by wolverinos
reading comprehension? i never said galactus amp himself, i said he cant use his powers aside of his physical ones and he cant amp them.
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remember galactus is using his shields and energies to amp his durability, strength, speed, anything he wants.
but at base level with no amping it doesnt work that way.
Reading comprehension indeed. But anyway, like I said before. I challenge you to find a scan that says Galactus is amping himself.
Originally posted by wolverinos
GA SBP didnt have problems with monarch, monarch at that point was > average galactus with no amping abilities.
and sbp without the guardian amp took a universal blast so...
Trion juggernaut with a single punch broke thru several dimensions so that tells us a lot about his punching power.
all the PC characters were not stable, but their high end feats are loonitic crazy. He sure as the hell did have problems with Monarch. He was losing that fight until he ripped his armor open.
And Monarch was not over average Galactus either. Although I think your version of average Galactus is weakened Galactus... so I should probably ignore that because that's plain nonsensical. Especially when I brought up Galactus and I wasn't using some weakened version. Plus everything else.
The blast was a big chain reaction with no real feats of destroying anything, or anyone important. Hell, it didn't even destroy the actual universe, or even the planet the fight happened on apparently...
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15996626/Countdown13p02.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15996542/Superman_Beyond_01_Page_017.jpg.html
And SBP without the Guardian Amp got knocked out by the Teen Titants. And even the Thor level Hyperion took two actual universes blowing up entirely.
Because it's a good thing you brought up Thing "beating up" Galactus isn't it.
And he was getting wrestled down by a giant octopus.
But didn't Red She Hulk punch through dimensions in Fall of Hulks? Thor and Herc collapsed a dimensional portal by punching each other as well.
Besides, Galactus just ripped a dimensional tear from 616 to Ultimate wide open.
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Hunger001-015.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Raw%20power/Hunger001-016.jpg
Well you sure convinced me with those sexy facts about the PC Verse. I guess I just can't deny how balls off the walls they are.