All Star Defenders vs. All Star Avengers

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byrdgang21
Hulk
Silver Surfer
Dr. Strange (classic)
Namor
Ghost Rider
Starhawk
Daimon Hellstorm


Vs


Ironman
Thor
Sentry
Blue Marvel
Hercules
Wonderman
Hyperion


Who wins?

janus77
lol.

Defenders stomp this.

Supermex
Yep Defenders in a stomp

byrdgang21
A stomp?? really? Even with Thor, Sentry, Blue Marvel & Hyperion???

janus77
Originally posted by byrdgang21
A stomp?? really? Even with Thor, Sentry, Blue Marvel & Hyperion???
Yep.

Defenders are just too stacked.

pym-ftw
Avengers imho

beatboks
Defenders easily

pym-ftw
What are peoples match ups?

Thor - Strange
Hype - Hulk
Sentry - Starhawk
BM - Surfer
WM - Namor
Ironman - GR
Hercules - Hellstorm

beatboks
Originally posted by pym-ftw
What are peoples match ups?

Thor - Strange
Hype - Hulk
Sentry - Starhawk
BM - Surfer
WM - Namor
Ironman - GR
Hercules - Hellstorm

It doesn't really matter how you make the match ups. Classic Strange, SS and Hellstrom can take down anyone here. No one on team Avengers can really take down GR or SS and Starhawk and SS can speed blitz anyone. The only weak link on Defenders is Namor and currently he has the Phoenix Force so when that's your weak link your pretty much kickin' anyone @$$ all over the place.

Supermex
Even without the PF power, Namor is not going down easy

Supermex
That Defender lineup might be the most powerful lineup in superhero team history

beatboks
Originally posted by Supermex
That Defender lineup might be the most powerful lineup in superhero team history

Nah, if you make a line up of the same number of any of the 12 most powerful JSAers you'd beat that one.

Spectre
Dr Fate
Johnny or Jakeem Thunder
Hourman 1 Million
Alan Scot
Obsidian
E22 Superman

Black Adam
Captain Marvel
Powergirl
Jay Garrick
Stargirl

maxivitopowe
Bump

Supermex
Ya but that jsa linup has peeps a diffrent timeline..

Anybody can do that with any other super team..

Try more with heroes in currnet time line..

Its like me plucking Keeper Surfer for the Defender team
And useing him instead of current or standard form..

beatboks
Originally posted by Supermex
Ya but that jsa linup has peeps a diffrent timeline..

Anybody can do that with any other super team..

Try more with heroes in currnet time line..

Its like me plucking Keeper Surfer for the Defender team
And useing him instead of current or standard form..

??? exclude one or maybe two of those on the list I made of JSA and it's an actual line up of a set period.

Example 1


Dr Fate
Jakeem Thunder
Hourman 1 Million
Alan Scot
Obsidian
Black Adam
Captain Marvel
Powergirl
Jay Garrick
Stargirl

ALL these were in the JSA during the John's Goyer run together.

Example 2

Dr Fate
Jakeem Thunder
Alan Scot
Obsidian
E22 Superman
Captain Marvel
Powergirl
Jay Garrick
Stargirl

This was the line up at the end of the last John's run

Spectre
Dr Fate
Johnny Thunder
Alan Scot
Jay Garrick
Starman


This was a Golden age line up a few times. Take Starman off and the rest were ALL in All Star Comics #3 where the JSA debuted. We are taking about a team that had 3 reality warpers PLUS a guy who could manipulate time, matter, size, space and dimension in their original line up, and were joined shortly after by a guy wielding comic power ( admittedly until Jay left Johnny Thunder was just team mascot but he was still there).

abhilegend
Avengers.

Supermex
Kool now that you put it that way
And everyone in set timeline
Defenders win

Tony Stark
Originally posted by beatboks
It doesn't really matter how you make the match ups. Classic Strange, SS and Hellstrom can take down anyone here. No one on team Avengers can really take down GR or SS and Starhawk and SS can speed blitz anyone. The only weak link on Defenders is Namor and currently he has the Phoenix Force so when that's your weak link your pretty much kickin' anyone @$$ all over the place.


confused

You obviously haven't read many comics... Classic Strange didn't want anything to do with SENTRY; he was literally afraid. Hyperion has been shown to be a BEAST. Iron Man in the past has beaten The HULK repeatedly as well as beating SS too.

I'm going with The Avengers... GREAT fight though

Supermex
Strange wasn't classic Strange at the time?

Tony Stark
Originally posted by Supermex
Strange wasn't classic Strange at the time?


YES he was... That was originally back in the day prior to the memory swipe of MARVEL Universe of his presence.

LeonBuco666
Defenders in a shit stomp

Branlor Swift
The funny thing is that this all star Avengers is missing the current most powerful member.

The Starbrand.

Tony Stark
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The funny thing is that this all star Avengers is missing the current most powerful member.

The Starbrand.


SENTRY>Starbrand

Branlor Swift
shut up

abhilegend
Haha.

beatboks
Originally posted by Tony Stark
confused

You obviously haven't read many comics... Classic Strange didn't want anything to do with SENTRY; he was literally afraid. Hyperion has been shown to be a BEAST. Iron Man in the past has beaten The HULK repeatedly as well as beating SS too.

I'm going with The Avengers... GREAT fight though

no the 30+ years I've collectd comics i haven't read many at all. in the 70's and 80's when I used to get between 50 to 70 titles a month absolutly nothing. when Sentry has the ability to break the binds of Living Tribunal, can defeat Dormammu in his own realm, and is the guy Eternity goes to for help to save him drom destruction we can talk about sentry taking on Classic Strange with any chance of success

LeonBuco666
lol at the entire marvel u having there memory wiped by sentry, he wiped earths memory of him, failed with hulk as he remembered him as golden man. It was just earth 616 that had there memories wiped of sentry

Tony Stark
Originally posted by LeonBuco666
lol at the entire marvel u having there memory wiped by sentry, he wiped earths memory of him, failed with hulk as he remembered him as golden man. It was just earth 616 that had there memories wiped of sentry


Uhhh... yeah... Duh 616 MARVEL Universe was what we weren't talking about NOT Ultimate, or OU812. NOT an ALTERNATE Universe. It didn't say Universes.

Zack Fair
meh

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