(All pre-flashpoint) Darkseid vs Wonder Woman & Martian Manhunter

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psycho gundam
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/12912/Darkseid_by_JPRart.jpg

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http://www.dccomics.com/sites/default/files/character_bio_576_wonderwoman.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/40499/1097099-martian_manhunter.jpg

abhilegend
Darkseid pimpslaps both and knocks them out.

h1a8
What is so special about flash point? Did the character's change after that?

-Pr-
Originally posted by h1a8
What is so special about flash point? Did the character's change after that?

You're kidding, right?

h1a8
Originally posted by -Pr-
You're kidding, right? lol, nope. Was always to ashamed to ask. It must be DCNu happened after flash point based off your comment. Am I right?

-Pr-
Originally posted by h1a8
lol, nope. Was always to ashamed to ask. It must be DCNu happened after flash point based off your comment. Am I right?

Yeah. An almost company-wide reboot.

Omega Vision
Darkseid.

Philosophía
Darkseid stomps.

Emi~Kiro
What is different from pre flashpoint Darkseid and the new52 that Darkseid that pimped the JL? Other than pre flashpoint having low showings due to years of existence compared to his reboot counterpart.

Delta1938
Originally posted by h1a8
What is so special about flash point? Did the character's change after that?

H1 doesn't read comics confirmed.

On topic, Darkseid wins.

carver9
Team.

Delta1938
Originally posted by carver9
Team loses badly.

A rare time you're correct. mhmm Someone must have hacked your account.

AlmightyKfish
I mean, Pre-Flashpoint is still a weird definition for Darkseid who varied from 'Final Crisis multiversal black hole' to 'just a little above Superman in a fistfight' in the Post Crisis era.

Admittedly, either way he'd win, as even at his worst showings post-crisis he was powerful enough to beat these two.

Prof. T.C McAbe
Spite. Darkseid stomps.

-Pr-
Weird bump but okay.

Darkseid should win, really.

iceman24567
Originally posted by h1a8
lol, nope. Was always to ashamed to ask. It must be DCNu happened after flash point based off your comment. Am I right? laughing This gem is worth the ludicrous bump

Sin I AM
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
I mean, Pre-Flashpoint is still a weird definition for Darkseid who varied from 'Final Crisis multiversal black hole' to 'just a little above Superman in a fistfight' in the Post Crisis era.

Admittedly, either way he'd win, as even at his worst showings post-crisis he was powerful enough to beat these two.

👍. Thought all those low showings were retconned as avatars too.

Delta1938
Originally posted by Sin I AM
👍. Thought all those low showings were retconned as avatars too.

"Avatars" is something that had been in play before, but Morrison's retcon was at another level. It's a headache even for comics, though.

AlmightyKfish
Originally posted by Delta1938
"Avatars" is something that had been in play before, but Morrison's retcon was at another level. It's a headache even for comics, though.

It didn't really help that Countdown and Death of the New Gods involved the New Gods right before Final Crisis and feel entirely different to, and contradict, Morrison's take on them. Really messy when you consider he had asked that they wouldn't be used leading up to it.

Delta1938
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
It didn't really help that Countdown and Death of the New Gods involved the New Gods right before Final Crisis and feel entirely different to, and contradict, Morrison's take on them. Really messy when you consider he had asked that they wouldn't be used leading up to it.

Morrison also acknowledged both, having Superman at the end of FINAL CRISIS referring to Orion ripping out Darkseid's heart in COUNTDOWN and in FINAL CRISIS SECRET FILES writing something making both the Anti-Life Entity and his take on the Anti-Life Equation coexist(although I don't remember the details, would have to take another look).

carver9
Dang, I missed this thread. Team wins. Diana blocks lasso and blitz around him subduing him with the lasso and her and Martian Manhunter unleash on him until he koed. Diana has already blocked the beams with ease...she has the speed to lasso him and the strength to wail on him until he is out...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/1/16549/1450266-004_superman_batman_013__rembrandt_dcp_.jpg

zopzop
So what happens if she lasso's him? Isn't it fight over?

Delta1938
Originally posted by zopzop
So what happens if she lasso's him? Isn't it fight over?

Here's how it worked for her here.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa466/Delta1938/Strength/RelativeStrength/Heroes/WonderWoman/Miscellaneous/AC753-PG10.jpg

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carver9
Originally posted by zopzop
So what happens if she lasso's him? Isn't it fight over?

The fight is done. If this is DCNU Wonder Woman, then its a done deal.

EcstaticGrace
... Darkseid. If it's DCnU for the Team they go down even faster.

-Pr-
I like how Darkseid is slow now... Okay.

Delta1938
Originally posted by -Pr-
I like how Darkseid is slow now... Okay.

What else do you expect from someone who among many things is arguing the possibility of Post-FLASHPOINT when the topic itself says "all pre-flashpoint?"

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
I like how Darkseid is slow now... Okay.

He isn't slow but he isn't Diana fast either. Not even close.

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
He isn't slow but he isn't Diana fast either. Not even close.

No he's Superman fast, which is equal if not greater. Or do fights not count anymore?

Delta1938
Originally posted by -Pr-
No he's Superman fast, which is equal if not greater. Or do fights not count anymore?

Under Byrne, in one of the rare times Darkseid actually used speed, he went so fast that Superman couldn't see him move.

deathslash
Originally posted by Delta1938
Under Byrne, in one of the rare times Darkseid actually used speed, he went so fast that Superman couldn't see him move. that wasn't darkseid. That was desaad, one of darkseid's weakest minions.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
No he's Superman fast, which is equal if not greater. Or do fights not count anymore?

Superman fast? Nothing in his history of comics proves this.

DarkSaint85
His fights with Superman?

Or does Superman slow himself down to human level speeds, so that DS gets a chance?

-Pr-
Originally posted by carver9
Superman fast? Nothing in his history of comics proves this.

Your own logic is hurting you, Carver.

carver9
Originally posted by -Pr-
Your own logic is hurting you, Carver.

How?

Sin I AM
Originally posted by -Pr-
Your own logic is hurting you, Carver.

Raoul..u remember that poster that use to deepthroat Wonder Woman every thread back in the day? What was his name?

carver9
Fangirl.

Delta1938
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Raoul..u remember that poster that use to deepthroat Wonder Woman every thread back in the day? What was his name?

If you mean this poster--

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=81738

--all evidence points to nvr was actually an account of Fangirl101's. Including being a sock(but who not specified) being one of the reasons Fangirl was banned.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=113931

Sin I AM
Originally posted by carver9
Fangirl.

Yup that's the one

Originally posted by Delta1938
If you mean this poster--

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=81738

--all evidence points to nvr was actually an account of Fangirl101's. Including being a sock(but who not specified) being one of the reasons Fangirl was banned.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=113931

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