Galactus vs Nekron

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Insane Titan
Galactus is well fed ie the most he has been on panel


Who wins?

TheGodKiller
InB4theZop.

abhilegend
Nekron.

zopzop
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Nekron.
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Odekahn
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nekron.

Emi~Kiro
How can Galactus kill Nekron? Doesn't it take the life entity or equivalent to beat Nekron?

Endless Mike
Originally posted by Emi~Kiro
How can Galactus kill Nekron?

Ultimate Nullifier?

zopzop
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Ultimate Nullifier?
How? How would it nullify a void abstract? Even in the MU the UN sends nullified beings to Oblivion's realm and Oblivion is a void abstract.

Also we've recently seen the UN couldn't kill a rogue Celestial.

Endless Mike
He's a death abstract

Nibedicus
Is Nekron able to exit his realm on his own if the UN sends him there?

zopzop
Originally posted by Endless Mike
He's a death abstract
Sigh........
http://s12.postimg.org/ra93n7fuh/nekron_space_atoms.jpg
He's that and more. A Death Abstract, a Void Abstract/the darkness before Creation, AND the ruler of 1/3 of the after life : Purgatory.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Is Nekron able to exit his realm on his own if the UN sends him there?
If he has a touch stone to mainstream reality? Yes. As we saw during Blackest Night, even his Kryptonite aka the White Light Entity, wasn't beating him until they severed his link to Black Hand.

ODG
Originally posted by Emi~Kiro
How can Galactus kill Nekron? Doesn't it take the life entity or equivalent to beat Nekron? Captain Atom did it.

Nibedicus
Originally posted by zopzop
If he has a touch stone to mainstream reality? Yes. As we saw during Blackest Night, even his Kryptonite aka the White Light Entity, wasn't beating him until they severed his link to Black Hand.

Black Hand isn't here, tho.

zopzop
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Black Hand isn't here, tho.
Then Nekron wouldn't even be out of his realm and this thread is pointless. Even then, it's not like Galactus carries the UN around with him.

leonidas
yeah, i agree zop. not sure why in so many galactus threads i've seen recently people say he'll bring in the UN. he wouldn't. ever. a mod ruling should actually be made regarding that line of reasoning to prevent that claim. it would be about as likely as saying thor transmutes random foe into glass because the hammer has shown to be able to perform matter manipulation.

Endless Mike
With full capability he would

Emi~Kiro
O.k. Lets shift this, how is Nekron killing a 'well fed' Galactus? How do you guys see that going down?

Nibedicus
Originally posted by zopzop
Then Nekron wouldn't even be out of his realm and this thread is pointless.

The rules of the forum indicates that he is allowed to "have full access to their abilities at optimum efficiency as they are depicted in their native universes. It will be assumed that each character fights as they are normally presented regardless of battle locale. "

Which means, to me, that Nekron is allowed to "exist" in the "universe" where the battle takes place for the purposes of the battle itself. But is not allowed outside help via the "no outside help" rule.

Meaning that if he is located in the neutral universe where the battle takes place for the purpose of this thread, but if he is BFR'd, he may only return if he is able to under his own power.

Originally posted by zopzop
Even then, it's not like Galactus carries the UN around with him.

Fair enough. I'm not the big-G expert so I'll defer to the more Big-G knowledgeable posters to determine if the UN is even a feasible course of action.

zopzop
Originally posted by Nibedicus
The rules of the forum indicates that he is allowed to "have full access to their abilities at optimum efficiency as they are depicted in their native universes. It will be assumed that each character fights as they are normally presented regardless of battle locale. "

Which means, to me, that Nekron is allowed to "exist" in the "universe" where the battle takes place for the purposes of the battle itself. But is not allowed outside help via the "no outside help" rule.

Meaning that if he is located in the neutral universe where the battle takes place for the purpose of this thread, but if he is BFR'd, he may only return if he is able to under his own power.
Ok, I see where you're coming from. Then Galactus, sans UN, is screwed. Even when Nekron was exposed to the White Entity, he wasn't going down till they severed his link to mainstream reality (this was explained on panel too) :
http://s12.postimg.org/u5x7r1ud5/tether.jpg


Galactus' only hope is BFR via the UN.

ODG
Originally posted by ODG
Captain Atom did it.

Kstanz
Didn't Atom only beat Nekron because Nekron was using the Quantum Field?

zopzop
Originally posted by Kstanz
Didn't Atom only beat Nekron because Nekron was using the Quantum Field?
It was an odd fight in an odd issue. I'll post the scans later, I'm not on my main pc right now.

Nibedicus
What kind of attack/damage/power "feats" does Nekron have that would allow him to put down a highly-fed Galactus?

zopzop
Originally posted by Nibedicus
What kind of attack/damage/power "feats" does Nekron have that would allow him to put down a highly-fed Galactus?
He doesn't do 'energy' attacks (think Death and Oblivion). Anything that's dead (even if they've been made alive later) are under his control (unless the White Entity is involved). Even elemental forces and aspects of God aren't immune.

Galactus has been dead at LEAST two times that I can think of. Nekron would just will him to "rise" and have a new slave.

Also keep in mind that during the 80s he empowered Krona to do his bidding and Krona was causing the universe to collapse into a singularity. For comparisons sake, this is what Maelstrom was doing during Cosmos In Collision and this guy was laughing in the face of Galactus daring him to do something.

Golgo13
Originally posted by zopzop
He doesn't do 'energy' attacks (think Death and Oblivion). Anything that's dead (even if they've been made alive later) are under his control (unless the White Entity is involved). Even elemental forces and aspects of God aren't immune.

Galactus has been dead at LEAST two times that I can think of. Nekron would just will him to "rise" and have a new slave.

Also keep in mind that during the 80s he empowered Krona to do his bidding and Krona was causing the universe to collapse into a singularity. For comparisons sake, this is what Maelstrom was doing during Cosmos In Collision and this guy was laughing in the face of Galactus daring him to do something.

Krona with part of his power also easily destroyed Guardians.

zopzop
Originally posted by Golgo13
Krona with part of his power also easily destroyed Guardians.
And back then, the Guardians weren't a joke. They were actively fighting back against the collapsing universe but failing though. They were moving planets and solar systems out of harms way and stuff.

Nibedicus
Originally posted by zopzop
He doesn't do 'energy' attacks (think Death and Oblivion). Anything that's dead (even if they've been made alive later) are under his control (unless the White Entity is involved). Even elemental forces and aspects of God aren't immune.

Galactus has been dead at LEAST two times that I can think of. Nekron would just will him to "rise" and have a new slave.

Also keep in mind that during the 80s he empowered Krona to do his bidding and Krona was causing the universe to collapse into a singularity. For comparisons sake, this is what Maelstrom was doing during Cosmos In Collision and this guy was laughing in the face of Galactus daring him to do something.

Hm. The "forced rez" approach is actually a very compelling argument. Will need to see how this works (gonna try to look it up) exactly, tho. But if it works the way you say it does, it can certainly be a game changer here.

abhilegend
It worked perfectly on Spectre. The black ring actually imprisoned spectre force. No reason it wouldn't work on Galactus.

abhilegend
Originally posted by zopzop
And back then, the Guardians weren't a joke. They were actively fighting back against the collapsing universe but failing though. They were moving planets and solar systems out of harms way and stuff.
Can you post that scene where Guardians were moving the solar systems and such?

zopzop
Originally posted by abhilegend
Can you post that scene where Guardians were moving the solar systems and such?
Hal explains it here :
http://s9.postimg.org/ohlwqstnv/collapse.jpg
Guardians in action here :
http://s7.postimg.org/rjc2155wn/worlds1.jpg http://s7.postimg.org/cpxegdy5j/worlds2.jpg http://s7.postimg.org/mlyhg13xj/worlds3.jpg
They were struggling but failing to keep the planets and stars from collapsing into the singularity. It's a damn massive feat considering people currently view them as high herald to low trans level characters. And also keep in mind it wasn't all of them that were trying to prevent universal collapse. Some of them broke off to fight Nekron while the others tried to stop the collapse to buy the Lanterns time to come up with a plan!

And proof that Nekron was the one that empowered Krona so that he could collapse the universe :
http://s7.postimg.org/gvcwg1lbb/empower.jpg

abhilegend
Originally posted by zopzop
Hal explains it here :
http://s9.postimg.org/ohlwqstnv/collapse.jpg
Guardians in action here :
http://s7.postimg.org/rjc2155wn/worlds1.jpg http://s7.postimg.org/cpxegdy5j/worlds2.jpg http://s7.postimg.org/mlyhg13xj/worlds3.jpg
They were struggling but failing to keep the planets and stars from collapsing into the singularity. It's a damn massive feat considering people currently view them as high herald to low trans level characters. And also keep in mind it wasn't all of them that were trying to prevent universal collapse. Some of them broke off to fight Nekron while the others tried to stop the collapse to buy the Lanterns time to come up with a plan!

And proof that Nekron was the one that empowered Krona so that he could collapse the universe :
http://s7.postimg.org/gvcwg1lbb/empower.jpg
That is just an awesome feat for Guardians if they were able to stop galaxies from contracting. They are certainly skyfather level as they weren't retconned in COIE.

quanchi112
Originally posted by abhilegend
That is just an awesome feat for Guardians if they were able to stop galaxies from contracting. They are certainly skyfather level as they weren't retconned in COIE. So based off of one space cheese feat in which you aren't even sure if it is canon or not still ?

Golgo13
Originally posted by abhilegend
That is just an awesome feat for Guardians if they were able to stop galaxies from contracting. They are certainly skyfather level as they weren't retconned in COIE.

They may have not been retconed by COIE, but they were retconned by yours truly, Geoff Johns.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Golgo13
They may have not been retconed by COIE, but they were retconned by yours truly, Geoff Johns. Geoff Johns is an excellent writer.

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