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AM gets his trident

HM gets CoH


Who wins?

Aquaman after a tough battle.

What strength lvl is a standard Hawkman at?

current arthur is beyond hawkman but he'd work for it. hawkman is a beast.

Namor

Originally posted by leonidas
current arthur is beyond hawkman but he'd work for it. hawkman is a beast. I don't think it's that far off based on what I've read of Savage Hawkman.

His ferocity and damage soak will be helpful.

^ So would his Nth metal symbiote suit and healing factor.

i still think the strength gap is too big, especially with the trident. i don't think it'd be a sweep, but i'd still give arthur a decent majority.

I'm not too keen on current Cockman, but I know the previous one was an absolute damage sponge

Aqualad wins, but it takes a while

^ Current Hawkman is almost assuredly more powerful than classic Hawkman. He's a functional symbiote user at this point on par with classic Venom, except without the glaring weaknesses like fire and sonics.

His Nth metal is now a liquid metal substance that's bonded to his biology. It stokes bloodlust in him which he tries to suppress. It morphs into his armor and various weapons on the fly, including claws, swords, axes and maces and extra armor plates. It restores/regrows his biological Thanagarian wings every time it emerges. It enhances his entire physiology, especially strength. It even grants him the ability to perceive and decipher alien stuff automatically like Motherbox-lite. The Nth metal itself is a bullet-timing symbiote such that it can morph little tendrils or plates that precisely block bullets after they've been fired, like Venom does. The Nth metal also has vaguely-defined mystic properties that make it a sort of spellbreaker and has shown several random plot device abilities like igniting with supernatural flame in self-defense.

He's taken sniper fire through the chest and has had gaping holes stabbed clean through his torso and basically heals in a few panels to keep fighting. The only thing he arguably lacks is the stealth camo and pure strength of Venom. But then again, he has a Darkhawk-ripoff "full combat mode" where he basically goes Warrior's Madness for a limited time and gains actual superstrength.

What I'm getting at is he'd probably stomp Aquaman if he were serious, basically.

Good enough for me. Aquaman sucks anyway

Hawkman wins.

Is this Hawkman with the Claw of Horus?

If he has that with him, then he wins.

Aquaman

The claw is in the new 52? Is it effectively the same?

First off OP said Hawkman has the Claw, not sure how Aquaman will win

Also....
Originally posted by -K-M-

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Battles
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Shadow War of Hawkman #3: Aquaman (Hawkwoman)
Here with one of their guns Hawkwoman quickly knocks out Aquaman

1. http://s125.photobucket.com/user/DCHawks_photo/media/ShadowWarofHawkman03-19.jpg.html
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Hawkman #15 : Aquaman (Hawkman: Holl)
Hawkman tracks down the avatar of the Baracuda, but must go through Aquaman who was friends with him until he found out he was a child molestor. Hawkman schools Aquaman

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-13.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-14.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-15.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-16.jpg
5. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-17.jpg
6. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-18.jpg
7. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman-v3-015-19.jpg
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JLA #119 : Carter Hall
Here Carter subdues a mind-controlled Aquaman

1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/JLA119-0006.jpg


In all seriousness without the Claw Aquaman should win against pre 52 Hawkman. I know nothing about current Hawkman though

Originally posted by pym-ftw
The claw is in the new 52? Is it effectively the same?

No.

BTW, Hawkman also has some fire attack that should put Aquaman down for a bit.

Originally posted by Supermex
What strength lvl is a standard Hawkman at?

About 4 to 5 tons. pre FP it was stated often that Nth metal enhanced the strength of the user by a factor of 20 times world record for lifting is 650kg so assuming 600kg would mean 12000 KG or 12 ton ( Metric) feats whoever only support 5 ton. That is excluding striking feats with Nth metal weapons. The Claw or Horus is supposed to strike with the force of being hit by a plane ( and HM has used it to send Supes flying- note not damaged abhi). The Claw IIRC is the purist most refined Nth metal anywhere.

Originally posted by Golgo13
No. the former? Or the Latter? I asked 2 questions

Originally posted by ODG
^ Current Hawkman is almost assuredly more powerful than classic Hawkman. He's a functional symbiote user at this point on par with classic Venom, except without the glaring weaknesses like fire and sonics.

His Nth metal is now a liquid metal substance that's bonded to his biology. It stokes bloodlust in him which he tries to suppress. It morphs into his armor and various weapons on the fly, including claws, swords, axes and maces and extra armor plates. It restores/regrows his biological Thanagarian wings every time it emerges. It enhances his entire physiology, especially strength. It even grants him the ability to perceive and decipher alien stuff automatically like Motherbox-lite. The Nth metal itself is a bullet-timing symbiote such that it can morph little tendrils or plates that precisely block bullets after they've been fired, like Venom does. The Nth metal also has vaguely-defined mystic properties that make it a sort of spellbreaker and has shown several random plot device abilities like igniting with supernatural flame in self-defense.

He's taken sniper fire through the chest and has had gaping holes stabbed clean through his torso and basically heals in a few panels to keep fighting. The only thing he arguably lacks is the stealth camo and pure strength of Venom. But then again, he has a Darkhawk-ripoff "full combat mode" where he basically goes Warrior's Madness for a limited time and gains actual superstrength.

What I'm getting at is he'd probably stomp Aquaman if he were serious, basically.
^ this

Some of this was the case pre FP ( healing factor enhanced senses, enhanced strength etc) though based on feats not to the same degree. Example Carter took a hiding from BA just pre WWIII and kept coming back but showed signs of damage, and had his arm almost severed in JLA and was healed by the end of the issue. The best feats for Nth metal pre 52 were of Onimar Synn who was virtually a reality warper. He however had a LOT more of the metal. It had anti magic applications pre FO plus the ability to control and influence electromagnetic sad well as strong and weak nuclear forces ( only displayed by Synn on the latter- HM has some with regards to affecting energy and others exist for Kobra and a few others)

Originally posted by pym-ftw
the former? Or the Latter? I asked 2 questions

NO.

Right.

If Hawkman has the Claw he will win if he can hit AQ with it

Originally posted by BlackWind
If Hawkman has the Claw he will win if he can hit AQ with it

Considering he routinely tags speedsters and can go mach speeds...yeah...no issue. Plus has enhanced vision to track speedsters

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