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On the vampires side Russell Edgington leads the vampires. No Lilith of Bilith. All other vampires are fair game such as Godric, Eric Northman, etc.


Marnie Stonebrook as Antonia's medium is leading the witches. We have Lafayette, his boyfriend with the aid of the brujo, etc. along with all other witches of the show save Tara as she is a vampire now.

Warlow is leading the Fae. Even though he is a hybrid he still relates to the Faeries and favors their people above all else. Battle takes place at night.

Each side is thirty miles out at their own home base so to speak but no entry point as in a home more or less a campsite.

"his boyfriend" has a name :l

The vampires win. The fae may have anti vamp light, but all but two have been shown able to stand up to them, the rest will be overwhelmed. They still have human reaction, so the odds aren't in their small groups favour. Secondly is that with Warlow their, the Fae lose their biggest advantage. Niall can't support the whole side.

Same goes for the witches. If Marnie gets lucky and captures some vamps, yay. If not her group are going to be quickly dispatched, again making it her holding the team up.

Too many advantages and numbers for the vampires to lose.

Originally posted by BloodRain
"his boyfriend" has a name :l

The vampires win. The fae may have anti vamp light, but all but two have been shown able to stand up to them, the rest will be overwhelmed. They still have human reaction, so the odds aren't in their small groups favour. Secondly is that with Warlow their, the Fae lose their biggest advantage. Niall can't support the whole side.

Same goes for the witches. If Marnie gets lucky and captures some vamps, yay. If not her group are going to be quickly dispatched, again making it her holding the team up.

Too many advantages and numbers for the vampires to lose. Yes, I know his name.

The Fae can bfr and have shown the ability to tag vampire speed. How do the Fae lose their advantage with Warlow there ?

Well, the witches do have the distance and can stack some vampires to their side making this interesting.

If Marnie erects a barrier and gets some vampires on her side this could get very interesting.


The Fae also have energy bombs under the Queen which destroy bodies entirely.

The argument can be made for only the two strongest Fae, and against 350 and less vamps. Faster vamps would have the advantage, as would any vamp to a non elder Fae. Advantage lost as he'd be resisting the light blasts.

'Could' get a vamp. Remember that their whole hope rests on whether Marnie gets the chance to as isn't overwhelmed or flanked. That's the problem when one member is the teams pillar.

Originally posted by BloodRain
The argument can be made for only the two strongest Fae, and against 350 and less vamps. Faster vamps would have the advantage, as would any vamp to a non elder Fae. Advantage lost as he'd be resisting the light blasts.

'Could' get a vamp. Remember that their whole hope rests on whether Marnie gets the chance to as isn't overwhelmed or flanked. That's the problem when one member is the teams pillar. 4 strongest Fae. We don't really know about the Queen but her Fae were blowing bodies away. Claudine can bfr. Elder Faerie can ko and react easily to vampire speed. Niall and Warlow as well.

Marnie has showed reflexes to stop vampires such as Eric Northman. That's very impressive. Marnie is dangerous through prep and could erect barriers.

Hitting a standing Warlow with a blast doesn't constitute as her having super reactions. So 2 for the vamps. And did Niall demonstrate his speed over Warlow? And anyhow this is at best 4 vs all the vamps, or at worst 2 vs all the vamps up to Nora. The rest of the Fae are practically humans with silver bullets.

She didn't stop his speed as I recall. And yes, with prep she csn do something but again, its her against all the vamps and even the Fae. She won't last. And what would she do in the bubble? Because she can't use her control spells unless close. Don't even need to bring up how the Fae would beat her. She's doesn't have much to deal with them, their light has been shown to mess with the magic and she couldn't hide from them. Only with the best situation would the witches not be the first to go.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Hitting a standing Warlow with a blast doesn't constitute as her having super reactions. So 2 for the vamps. And did Niall demonstrate his speed over Warlow? And anyhow this is at best 4 vs all the vamps, or at worst 2 vs all the vamps up to Nora. The rest of the Fae are practically humans with silver bullets.

She didn't stop his speed as I recall. And yes, with prep she csn do something but again, its her against all the vamps and even the Fae. She won't last. And what would she do in the bubble? Because she can't use her control spells unless close. Don't even need to bring up how the Fae would beat her. She's doesn't have much to deal with them, their light has been shown to mess with the magic and she couldn't hide from them. Only with the best situation would the witches not be the first to go. Who hit Warlow with a blast ?

The rest of the Fae will have powers. Must because Russell tanked them doesn't mean everyone can. Other Fae blew bodies up completely with Fae bombs. That's most powerful Fae magic we have seen yet and you are ignoring it.

Marnie can use vamps against Fae. It depends on what happens on this battlefield. She can teleport. She uses her fingers and chants to control them. She can alter the weather and environment to make things difficult.

You also remember the Brujo who is powerful as well.

Yes they have powers. They have also been constantly shown to be terrified of vampires, even with their powers. Didn't ignore it, that was part of my 'same as humans with silver bullets' line. And they are. Fae blasts are to silver in the arm, as Fae bombs are to silver on the head or heart.
The only real threats are those who can react, and those very few can't keep it up forever before numbers and speed play its part.

I admit her role here depends on if she gets vamps or not, which on itself is an issue. And at the end of the day she has the most struggles and needs the most plans in order to be even on level footings here.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Yes they have powers. They have also been constantly shown to be terrified of vampires, even with their powers. Didn't ignore it, that was part of my 'same as humans with silver bullets' line. And they are. Fae blasts are to silver in the arm, as Fae bombs are to silver on the head or heart.
The only real threats are those who can react, and those very few can't keep it up forever before numbers and speed play its part.

I admit her role here depends on if she gets vamps or not, which on itself is an issue. And at the end of the day she has the most struggles and needs the most plans in order to be even on level footings here. The Fae are more dangerous than you think but in general vampires are superior.

But she has the powers to make this possible. Marnie and her circle can do some real damage especially with some vampires under her control.

As in all of them carry tasers/bullets, yes. Like humans with guns.

She's does, and has to do a lot to be break even. She's have to figure out how to safety get vampires, as in go get within range of some without more attacking her when vulnerable. Then make a plan to use them to get more, repeat the process until she has enough to compete with the rest. All the while watching her back from being flanked by a vamp or Fae. That's a lot to consider

Originally posted by BloodRain
As in all of them carry tasers/bullets, yes. Like humans with guns.

She's does, and has to do a lot to be break even. She's have to figure out how to safety get vampires, as in go get within range of some without more attacking her when vulnerable. Then make a plan to use them to get more, repeat the process until she has enough to compete with the rest. All the while watching her back from being flanked by a vamp or Fae. That's a lot to consider We have usually seen the scrubs against vampires or them just getting the jump on the Fae. We see Claudine defeated Warlow through a bfr showing she can be quite valuable to the Fae.

Marnie did so by herself against another vampire and successfully did so against Eric, Bill, and his own assault team.

She will have those same people at her side as well as the Brujo along with the earlier witches who died with Antonia.

And besides a surprise attack, she's shown little else to compare to the elder and you're right, we've see the scrubs against vamps as that what the majority sans 2/3 Fae are to vamps. There's a reason they're terrified, and a reason only the strongest show confidence in facing one.

Note the 'by herself' part. As in, without other vampires around her. If she's casting a spell on one vamp, she's open to be flanked. And the rest can hardly do much because besides very minor or personally defensive spells from 3, all they are are backup vocals. Maybe not the Brujo, can't recall what it can do though.

Originally posted by BloodRain
And besides a surprise attack, she's shown little else to compare to the elder and you're right, we've see the scrubs against vamps as that what the majority sans 2/3 Fae are to vamps. There's a reason they're terrified, and a reason only the strongest show confidence in facing one.

Note the 'by herself' part. As in, without other vampires around her. If she's casting a spell on one vamp, she's open to be flanked. And the rest can hardly do much because besides very minor or personally defensive spells from 3, all they are are backup vocals. Maybe not the Brujo, can't recall what it can do though. I agree the vampires are the strongest species on the show. But we have never seen the Faeries all out attack them. The stronger ones definitely beat on a majority of the vampires such as Niall and the Faerie Elder.

She can teleport and have her crew around her. Fire is also a weakness she can use against the vampires. We see her stop vamps as they use their speed.


Her owning Eric twice speaks volumes about her formidability.

Witches stomp

Originally posted by juggerman
Witches stomp Oh really ? What makes you say so.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree the vampires are the strongest species on the show. But we have never seen the Faeries all out attack them. The stronger ones definitely beat on a majority of the vampires such as Niall and the Faerie Elder.

She can teleport and have her crew around her. Fire is also a weakness she can use against the vampires. We see her stop vamps as they use their speed.

Her owning Eric twice speaks volumes about her formidability. The strongest and the most in number. Your average vamp would decimate all Fae but the top tier, who have only been shown to effectively combat mid+ vamps.


And whats to stop a group of vamps tearing her apart when she tries to throw a spell over one? Her coven? Yeah fire is, doesnt help that shes only been shown to 'summon' fire, not manipulate it to any decent degree.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh really ? What makes you say so.

They take control of all the vampires and have them attack and kill the Fae then kill themselves. With so much space between the groups the witches can pull strings without ever being in harm's way. They also have that shield.

^10ft range for mind controlling vampires.

Originally posted by BloodRain
^10ft range for mind controlling vampires.

Since when? They sure didn't have an issue making all the vampires want to walk out into the sun from several miles away

Because thats for that specific spell; all in range do whatever to stand in the sun.

The mind control specific spell is only something shes done within range. Like when she needed Eric to lure some vamps right up to her in order for her to control them.

Ok so instead of "stand in the sun" it's "kill all the Fae and then stand in the sun".

Doesn't really work like that. The spell itself is only to make them sunbathe.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Doesn't really work like that. The spell itself is only to make them sunbathe.

Here's the thing tho, Antonia/Marnie couldn't pull off such range alone. It was the added power the others brought with the chanting and whatnot that allowed the spell to reach as far as it did. The strictly mind control one would be boosted as well with a whole ceremony backing it up and empowering it.

Nothing suggests that all spells range could be boosted by the coven chanting along.

Originally posted by BloodRain
The strongest and the most in number. Your average vamp would decimate all Fae but the top tier, who have only been shown to effectively combat mid+ vamps.


And whats to stop a group of vamps tearing her apart when she tries to throw a spell over one? Her coven? Yeah fire is, doesnt help that shes only been shown to 'summon' fire, not manipulate it to any decent degree. Not all of the Fae such as the ones with Queen Mab with their body disintegrating blasts.

I do agree the vampires win but the Elder Faerie and Niall Brigant can stand toe to toe with the best of the vampires save Russell and Godric IMO.

We see her against a large group and she survived just fine after taking Eric as her own.

Originally posted by juggerman
They take control of all the vampires and have them attack and kill the Fae then kill themselves. With so much space between the groups the witches can pull strings without ever being in harm's way. They also have that shield. They cannot take control of all of the vampires. If it were that easy she would have taken control of Bill, Pam, and Eric again outside her coven.


Russell Edgington or Godric would kill her before she knew what hit her.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not all of the Fae such as the ones with Queen Mab with their body disintegrating blasts.

I do agree the vampires win but the Elder Faerie and Niall Brigant can stand toe to toe with the best of the vampires save Russell and Godric IMO.

We see her against a large group and she survived just fine after taking Eric as her own. All still scared shitless. Yes, they have bombs. But humans have silver bullets which, to a vampire, is equally as fatal.

And thats the problem I highlighted earlier, that pillar that even gives the Fae a chance is these two. On the flip side what happens when Warlow and Russell die? The vampires still win as Godric, Salome, Eric, Nan, Violet, Talbot, Magister, Sophie-Ann, Kibwe, Roman, Luis and Isabel are all faster than Nora aka the fastest a Fae has shown reacting to.


When were there vampires around here just watching Eric get controlled?

Originally posted by BloodRain
All still scared shitless. Yes, they have bombs. But humans have silver bullets which, to a vampire, is equally as fatal.

And thats the problem I highlighted earlier, that pillar that even gives the Fae a chance is these two. On the flip side what happens when Warlow and Russell die? The vampires still win as Godric, Salome, Eric, Nan, Violet, Talbot, Magister, Sophie-Ann, Kibwe, Roman, Luis and Isabel are all faster than Nora aka the fastest a Fae has shown reacting to.


When were there vampires around here just watching Eric get controlled? Except humans don't have the magic or the reflexes of the Fae.

Niall has shown the strength to deal with Warlow. Niall also has power to ko vampires.

Godric is formidable enough but the others I don't see as taking out Niall or Warlow.

All battling amidst the fog covered terrain due to Marnie.

I have a feeling Marnie is taking over Eric again. She has owned him in combat.

And no Fae apart from two can have a reflex claim made for them, only like that of humans.

Its not one on one.. no, the point of the list is that if the top two Vamps die there are still a dozen others whose speed is above the fastest thing any Fae has dealt with. While if Elder or Niall die, that is it for their side, and following that its over for them. Niall is strong, but put him in the face of Sophie and Salome and he's going to be overwhelmed.

So when split up and none of them witnessing Eric at the time? Again, her only chance is heavily circumstantial.

Originally posted by BloodRain
And no Fae apart from two can have a reflex claim made for them, only like that of humans.

Its not one on one.. no, the point of the list is that if the top two Vamps die there are still a dozen others whose speed is above the fastest thing any Fae has dealt with. While if Elder or Niall die, that is it for their side, and following that its over for them. Niall is strong, but put him in the face of Sophie and Salome and he's going to be overwhelmed.

So when split up and none of them witnessing Eric at the time? Again, her only chance is heavily circumstantial. Three can. Elder, Claudine, Niall.....also Warlow so that is four including the hybrid.

We never saw the Fae of Mab's attack the vampires.

I don't know. Niall can teleport away while easily koing Sophie. Then it is one on one.


Marnie can split them up with her forces and magic. That's within her power and supported by the series. Why ignore an actual encounter of vampires vs. her and her coven.

Show me Claudine reacting to a Vampire. Why is Warlow on their side?

So what? They still have human reflexes, so again, humans with silver bullets.

Sophie is faster than Nora.

Because A) Her coven are worthless, and B) She can do that all she likes, difference here is that it wont just be a small handful of vamps.. its an army of them.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Show me Claudine reacting to a Vampire. Why is Warlow on their side?

So what? They still have human reflexes, so again, humans with silver bullets.

Sophie is faster than Nora.

Because A) Her coven are worthless, and B) She can do that all she likes, difference here is that it wont just be a small handful of vamps.. its an army of them. We see her reacting to Warlow and bfring someone over 5,000 years old.

He hates vampires and favors the Fae. That's why.

Faes have caught vampires with their blasts. That isn't using technology or weakness exploitation that is using their own abilities.

So ?

Claudine caught Warlow with a blast.

If they were worthless then they would have been routed. They were not.

Marnie can stop them via blitz and use them as her slaves.

We see her hitting him, not reacting.

And? He's still the undead. Edit: Ahh saw the OP, okay.

Lol show me the difference between an average Fae blast and a silver bullet against a vampire. The only difference as far as the vamp is concerned is "which one is faster" as both will be fatal. They are still 'human' outside of that, just as vulnerable.

So she's faster than what Niall has shown to compete against.


They are. Nothing changes that. The only competent Witches are Jesus, Lafayette and Holly. Neither of them could ever stand up to the weakest vampire besides 'maybe' the demon. Otherwise they are all just her backup singers, doing jack all solo. So again, just like with the Fae, the whole team is basically 2 characters.

Originally posted by BloodRain
We see her hitting him, not reacting.

And? He's still the undead. Edit: Ahh saw the OP, okay.

Lol show me the difference between an average Fae blast and a silver bullet against a vampire. The only difference as far as the vamp is concerned is "which one is faster" as both will be fatal. They are still 'human' outside of that, just as vulnerable.

So she's faster than what Niall has shown to compete against.


They are. Nothing changes that. The only competent Witches are Jesus, Lafayette and Holly. Neither of them could ever stand up to the weakest vampire besides 'maybe' the demon. Otherwise they are all just her backup singers, doing jack all solo. So again, just like with the Fae, the whole team is basically 2 characters. She reacted to Warlow's presence and had the speed of blast to hit him who is 5,500 years old. Looks like Fae her age or older can tag vampires. You want to use age to determine it so you shit on your own case.

Bullets have to be used skill wise at the heart not the Fae blasts. Hit the body and then ko time.

Niall is greater than Claudine who caught a 5,500 year old hybrid with one.

False. They can use silver and back her up. We saw them already and they weren't all wiped out. Marnie can also acquire many vampires since she can take out Eric who is 1,100 years old.

..did she react to his speed, was the question.

Getting non-fatal by a silver bullet brings a vamp to the floor in agony, similar to how all but the fatal blasts only knock them out. Both can be damaging, both can be fatal, and both comes from beings with human reactions. And tbh I have no idea why youre focussing so much on bullet vs blast when that has nothing to do with anything besides being a comparison about Fae's reactions.

Did she react to his speed?

Oh wow, game changer. So now its a vampire army vs Marnie and backup singers who now hold silver.

Originally posted by BloodRain
..did she react to his speed, was the question.

Getting non-fatal by a silver bullet brings a vamp to the floor in agony, similar to how all but the fatal blasts only knock them out. Both can be damaging, both can be fatal, and both comes from beings with human reactions. And tbh I have no idea why youre focussing so much on bullet vs blast when that has nothing to do with anything besides being a comparison about Fae's reactions.

Did she react to his speed?

Oh wow, game changer. So now its a vampire army vs Marnie and backup singers who now hold silver. She successfully tagged a vampire who is well above bullet timing at 5,500 years so don't you dare even try to make exceptions here. You're whole Niall against Nora relied on age. Faes can tag vampires. Not always but yes they can tag even very old ones.

Watch the cemetery scene. Marnie did fine. Marnie also did not have the Brujo on her side as that was the reason she lost as he severed the connection to Antonia.

Marnie was not defeated just by vampires but by a Brujo. We see her come back and easily capture Eric and Bill by herself using a Brujo as well.

Marnie can do a lot of damage to vampires in general. The season made it clear. You want to ignore it and pretend she can be easily taken out at any time.

Marnie>>Eric Northman and Bill Compton.

No, I'm not asking about what her blast did, I'm asking you if she displayed the reactions of being able to track a vampires speed.

She did just fine? This is Marnie's part in that whole scene: She casts mist, hides, waits for the first vamp and controls him, all while said vamp is solo. Like I said, we're dealing with a lot more vamps, so getting one solo will be a huge task.

At the end of the day, there are more vampires than she has the speed or range to grab.

Originally posted by BloodRain
No, I'm not asking about what her blast did, I'm asking you if she displayed the reactions of being able to track a vampires speed.

She did just fine? This is Marnie's part in that whole scene: She casts mist, hides, waits for the first vamp and controls him, all while said vamp is solo. Like I said, we're dealing with a lot more vamps, so getting one solo will be a huge task.

At the end of the day, there are more vampires than she has the speed or range to grab. We never saw her in that situation. We only see her defeat Warlow and then get caught off guard by Eric while talking to Sookie.

She can disorient them and clog up the vision of the battlefield by doing so.


That's why she does not put herself in the middle of a bad situation and she also has a Brujo at her side. Once she starts taking over vampires that is when things get interesting.

So you cannot prove she has those reactions.

Hiding from hundreds of vamps, I'm sure that'll go down well.

Which is the point; It is only when herself and the stage crew somehow manage to gather a large chunk of the vamps that this can be called even. Its a large assumption that she will be able to do all that without a vamp ever getting the chance to attack her. Only takes one hit.

Originally posted by BloodRain
So you cannot prove she has those reactions.

Hiding from hundreds of vamps, I'm sure that'll go down well.

Which is the point; It is only when herself and the stage crew somehow manage to gather a large chunk of the vamps that this can be called even. Its a large assumption that she will be able to do all that without a vamp ever getting the chance to attack her. Only takes one hit. Other Faeries younger than her have tagged vampires using their speed.

She can teleport and mind control vampires.


Once she starts amassing vampires she can do serious damage. The entire vampire community was after her and it was not easy for them to get to her due to her barrier.

Well, we see her own vampires and be in a battlefield and come out on top.

...this would fall under the time I asked you to show me Fae reacting to Vspeed.

Gets overwhelmed, still a mushy human.


And before then, she's extremely vulnerable. Yes, the barrier which makes it so that she cannot do anything to vamps not right near the barrier.

Originally posted by BloodRain
...this would fall under the time I asked you to show me Fae reacting to Vspeed.

Gets overwhelmed, still a mushy human.


And before then, she's extremely vulnerable. Yes, the barrier which makes it so that she cannot do anything to vamps not right near the barrier. Niall.

Not with her clouding the battlefield.

The barrier makes it to where she can keep anyone from getting to her. She can start amassing vampires.

...We have already covered Niall for Nora speed and Eldar for Steve speed. I'm asking about every other Fae.

A hundred vampires in close proximity and they will only be able to find her one at a time?

Not inside the barrier she can't.

Originally posted by BloodRain
...We have already covered Niall for Nora speed and Eldar for Steve speed. I'm asking about every other Fae.

A hundred vampires in close proximity and they will only be able to find her one at a time?

Not inside the barrier she can't. Vampires aren't always blitzing so if Claudine can hit Warlow then Fae can hit and miss vampires. Depends.


Who is saying the vampires will all be attacking en masse.

She can pick and choose when she leaves the barrier.

Vampires win.

Vampires stomp. Like Bloodrain said olny top tier faeries have good feats. The rest are awful.

And Martonia is the only powerful witch. She can't fight all of them.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Vampires stomp. Like Bloodrain said olny top tier faeries have good feats. The rest are awful.

And Martonia is the only powerful witch. She can't fight all of them. TB vampires unlike VD vampires rule their verse.

Originally posted by quanchi112
TB vampires unlike VD vampires rule their verse.

Well then I guess that says something about how weak the tb verse is now doesn't it?

And that doesn't change how weak every other supernatural species in TB is. We already went over that in the battlezone thread.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Well then I guess that says something about how weak the tb verse is now doesn't it? No, it is far more formidable than VB verse where vampires are weak by comparison to TB vampires.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
And that doesn't change how weak every other supernatural species in TB is. We already went over that in the battlezone thread. Fae can read minds, bfr, and can react to vampire speed at the top level of Fae. Maenad have invulnerability and bullet deflecting feats. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it is far more formidable than VB verse where vampires are weak by comparison to TB vampires.

Do not even start this argument with me. We already went over this and VD vamps are more than a match.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Fae can read minds, bfr, and can react to vampire speed at the top level of Fae. Maenad have invulnerability and bullet deflecting feats. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Okay and yet every fae sans Niall, Faerie Elder and Queen mab were absolute fodder.

And she got overpowered by Bill.

Actually there isn't much more. True Blood's season 7 is likely to be it's final season.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Do not even start this argument with me. We already went over this and VD vamps are more than a match. No, they are not. TB vampires are faster and stronger.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Okay and yet every fae sans Niall, Faerie Elder and Queen mab were absolute fodder.

And she got overpowered by Bill.

Actually there isn't much more. True Blood's season 7 is likely to be it's final season. Queen Mab's crew as well were using the Faerie bombs.

Claudine also bfr'd Warlow.

Yes, she did as he is stronger and faster but not as invulnerable.

Lots of vampires and there is already enough but more vampires sure doesn't hurt.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, they are not. TB vampires are faster and stronger.

I will continue that discussion in the battlezone if you want.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Queen Mab's crew as well were using the Faerie bombs.

Claudine also bfr'd Warlow.

Yes, she did as he is stronger and faster but not as invulnerable.

Lots of vampires and there is already enough but more vampires sure doesn't hurt.

And Sookie and that old man dodged them. Your point?

Didn't you say that shows Warlow is weak? Not a good feat then right?

There gonna be hepetitis vamps. Brian said they are weaker. Keep dreaming.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
I will continue that discussion in the battlezone if you want. Wait until the battlezone.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
And Sookie and that old man dodged them. Your point?

Didn't you say that shows Warlow is weak? Not a good feat then right?

There gonna be hepetitis vamps. Brian said they are weaker. Keep dreaming. That if they don't they die just like VD characters.

Being bfr'd shows Silas is screwed.

More vampires who feed more.

The number of soldiers matter in a war.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That if they don't they die just like VD characters.

Being bfr'd shows Silas is screwed.

More vampires who feed more.

The number of soldiers matter in a war.

What? Slow ass bombs suck. Human level speed>them.

And who is gonna do that? Only like what two faeries showed projectile teleporting. The attacks have to be charged. One thought and see ya fae fodder. And thanks for conceding that vamps can't beat him lol.

Okay then...

Not in front of hax.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
They were dodged by humans still.

He only beat Nora. No other feats. Hax>Age.

IDC since 99% are proven fodder. Humans or Fae ? What humans dodged them ?

Crushed Nora with his abilities. He also beat Warlow with Jason.

Not at all.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Humans or Fae ? What humans dodged them ?

Crushed Nora with his abilities. He also beat Warlow with Jason.

Not at all.

I ma talking about Sookie. She has human level running speed. And she was able to dodge all the grenades thrown at her. That shows the attacks are slow and the throwers have HORRIBLE aim.

Nora is a weak *****. Funny since you portrayed that as Warlow being extremely weak since he got by Niall. Changing your mind?

Yes. You only have four strong faeries. The rest are gremlin faced losers.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
I ma talking about Sookie. She has human level running speed. And she was able to dodge all the grenades thrown at her. That shows the attacks are slow and the throwers have HORRIBLE aim.

Nora is a weak *****. Funny since you portrayed that as Warlow being extremely weak since he got by Niall. Changing your mind?

Yes. You only have four strong faeries. The rest are gremlin faced losers. She is half Fae so no she isn't a human.

Warlow caught Niall off guard. That's why he beat him. Niall owned him later. Niall raped Nora.


They read minds and are a lot more powerful than you are letting on. Russell Edgington tooled old powerful vampires just as the Fae due to him being that fast and powerful.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She is half Fae so no she isn't a human.

Warlow caught Niall off guard. That's why he beat him. Niall owned him later. Niall raped Nora.


They read minds and are a lot more powerful than you are letting on. Russell Edgington tooled old powerful vampires just as the Fae due to him being that fast and powerful.

But her speed is human level. Prove me wrong? But you can't. The fae are losers.

But Niall caught Warlow of guard to do that as well...and you have stated a billion times how weak Warlow is. So like you said that is not a feat. See how that works? And Nora is weak so that is worth nothing.

I am not letting anything on. It's a fact. They suck. You already admitted that in the battlezone. I don't know why you are trying to say otherwise now. 99% of the fae suck. Stay mad.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
But her speed is human level. Prove me wrong? But you can't. The fae are losers.

But Niall caught Warlow of guard to do that as well...and you have stated a billion times how weak Warlow is. So like you said that is not a feat. See how that works? And Nora is weak so that is worth nothing.

I am not letting anything on. It's a fact. They suck. You already admitted that in the battlezone. I don't know why you are trying to say otherwise now. 99% of the fae suck. Stay mad. We have seen Fae react to vampire so proven.

Warlow is weaker than what Killer claimed but not entirely weak on his own.

Fae can transport anyone they grab into the Faerie plain. Also read minds.


Can't wait to unleash the Fae on you as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We have seen Fae react to vampire so proven.

Warlow is weaker than what Killer claimed but not entirely weak on his own.

Fae can transport anyone they grab into the Faerie plain. Also read minds.


Can't wait to unleash the Fae on you as well.

We have seen top tier ones. Show me Sookie gap tooth Stackhouse going that? Or any of those fodder?

Funny since you said that he is so weak for not beating a single vampire without his fae abilities? Your downplay/Russell wank is gonna come back in waves to haunt you if you wanna keep this discussion going

That's nice. Yet there still 99% fodder

Well then your gonna be waiting for a while

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
We have seen top tier ones. Show me Sookie gap tooth Stackhouse going that? Or any of those fodder?

Funny since you said that he is so weak for not beating a single vampire without his fae abilities? Your downplay/Russell wank is gonna come back in waves to haunt you if you wanna keep this discussion going

That's nice. Yet there still 99% fodder

Well then your gonna be waiting for a while She is not a human she is Half Fae.



He did not I never said he could not. Pay attention to my words.

Not at all.

When we reconvene Silas will be most likely dead.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She is not a human she is Half Fae.



He did not I never said he could not. Pay attention to my words.

Not at all.

When we reconvene Silas will be most likely dead.



Who runs at human speeds

So in other words he has some shitty ass feats am I right? Should I bring up the other 10 pages of you using his lack of feats as a reason why he sucks?

Your right I am actually thinking more along the lines of 99.9% the fae are useless.

And Lilith and Warlow will still be dead

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Who runs at human speeds

So in other words he has some shitty ass feats am I right? Should I bring up the other 10 pages of you using his lack of feats as a reason why he sucks?

Your right I am actually thinking more along the lines of 99.9% the fae are useless.

And Lilith and Warlow will still be dead Fae reflexes.


He still is strong just not competent or anywhere near Russell.

You will found out otherwise.


Lilith still exists. You are the one claiming complete invulnerability. Can't wait.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Fae reflexes.


He still is strong just not competent or anywhere near Russell.

You will found out otherwise.


Lilith still exists. You are the one claiming complete invulnerability. Can't wait.

Suck

So he basically sucks?

So maybe 100%?

With nothing to bring her back with her blood gone Yes I can't wait for your funeral as well!

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Suck

So he basically sucks?

So maybe 100%?

With nothing to bring her back with her blood gone Yes I can't wait for your funeral as well! Owned Nora and her speed.


No, that is VD.

Silas is the guy who just served a prison term for 2,000 years. Lets see how long he lasts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Owned Nora and her speed.


No, that is VD.

Silas is the guy who just served a prison term for 2,000 years. Lets see how long he lasts.

"Owned Whora and her Shitty speed" Fixed

In a Parallel universe

Still beats being Ghostbuster prey

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
"Owned Whora and her Shitty speed" Fixed

In a Parallel universe

Still beats being Ghostbuster prey Faster than VD vampires.


The guy is going down and then we will compare time on earth doing their things after it is all said and done.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Faster than VD vampires.


The guy is going down and then we will compare time on earth doing their things after it is all said and done.

In the parallel universe

Auto win for Silas having to be compared to someone who gave free sex to her murderer

Originally posted by quanchi112
Vampires aren't always blitzing so if Claudine can hit Warlow then Fae can hit and miss vampires. Depends.
Who is saying the vampires will all be attacking en masse.
She can pick and choose when she leaves the barrier.
You mean like humans with guns? That 'depends' is an important part, that theres a fair chance they can hit or miss them. Exactly how long do you think the odds will stay in their favour? There are only 4 notable ones. After that its only a matter of time.

Yes, because its far more likely that they will line up and attack in turns.

And then die when out once she encounters a hoard or even a Fae.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Vampires win.
Did you really double post just to call a thread?

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
In the parallel universe

Auto win for Silas having to be compared to someone who gave free sex to her murderer What is Vd's greatest speed feat then ?

False.

Originally posted by BloodRain
You mean like humans with guns? That 'depends' is an important part, that theres a fair chance they can hit or miss them. Exactly how long do you think the odds will stay in their favour? There are only 4 notable ones. After that its only a matter of time.

Yes, because its far more likely that they will line up and attack in turns.

And then die when out once she encounters a hoard or even a Fae.

Did you really double post just to call a thread? I never said the vampires lost I was just contending you acting like the Faeries were jokes. They aren't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What is Vd's greatest speed feat then ?

False.

Let's see. In TB the standard age for being able to bullet time is 1000. In VD the age required to bullet time is 163. For Stefan dodged a bullet to save Damon in 4x11. So VD''s vampire's are on a whole way faster than TB vamps. And Whora can't remotely stack up to even try speedblitzing any vamp.

Your right. The beast actually raped him

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Let's see. In TB the standard age for being able to bullet time is 1000. In VD the age required to bullet time is 163. For Stefan dodged a bullet to save Damon in 4x11. So VD''s vampire's are on a whole way faster than TB vamps. And Whora can't remotely stack up to even try speedblitzing any vamp.

Your right. The beast actually raped him That doesn't prove that age is required that just showed what Wric was capable of. Post the clip because I highly doubt Stefan reacted after the bullet left the chamber as in Eric's case there.

Why can't she ?

Nah.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That doesn't prove that age is required that just showed what Wric was capable of. Post the clip because I highly doubt Stefan reacted after the bullet left the chamber as in Eric's case there.

Why can't she ?

Nah.

Well unless proven otherwise it is functioning as the minimum or starting point for vampires to bullet time. Besides no younger vampire has ever bullet timed. And even Eric was only able to intercept it.

Here the bane of your existence start at 1:15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbKXFffxo0o

Yes Lilith wears the pants in her sexual intercourse's.

Tell me how does it feel to know that a 163 year old vampire in TVD is FASTER than a 1000+ year old vamp in TB?

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Well unless proven otherwise it is functioning as the minimum or starting point for vampires to bullet time. Besides no younger vampire has ever bullet timed. And even Eric was only able to intercept it.

Here the bane of your existence start at 1:15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbKXFffxo0o

Yes Lilith wears the pants in her sexual intercourse's. Hahahahahaha. That's it. We see Eric at the moment he reacts after it leaves the chamber. We just see a blitz without seeing where he was at at the start of the shot.

I knew it wasn't anywhere near as impressive.


Lilith would rape Silas as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hahahahahaha. That's it. We see Eric at the moment he reacts after it leaves the chamber. We just see a blitz without seeing where he was at at the start of the shot.

I knew it wasn't anywhere near as impressive.


Lilith would rape Silas as well.

Ur so bitter and blind

I will use direct visuals since your eyes are impaired.

The shot is fired at the first half of 1:19
file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/User/My%20Documents/My%20Videos/My%20Pictures/Bullet%20jeremy%202.jpg

In the moment after the shot in the latter part of 1:19 wee see Stefan COME IN FROM THE SIDE
file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/User/My%20Documents/My%20Videos/My%20Pictures/Bullet%20stefan%202.jpg

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW A 163 YEAR OLD VAMP IN TVD IS FASTER THAN A 1000 YEAR OLD VAMP IN TB?

And lol no Lilith's nasty ass still gets raped.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Ur so bitter and blind

I will use direct visuals since your eyes are impaired.

The shot is fired at the first half of 1:19
file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/User/My%20Documents/My%20Videos/My%20Pictures/Bullet%20jeremy%202.jpg

In the moment after the shot in the latter part of 1:19 wee see Stefan COME IN FROM THE SIDE
file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/User/My%20Documents/My%20Videos/My%20Pictures/Bullet%20stefan%202.jpg

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW A 163 YEAR OLD VAMP IN TVD IS FASTER THAN A 1000 YEAR OLD VAMP IN TB?

And lol no Lilith's nasty ass still gets raped. We do not see his starting point at the point the bullet was fired. We don't know where he was or if he was already running. We see Eric react after the bullet left the chamber.

You have speculation and no starting point.


I don't know since Eric's feat craps all over this. I will let you know when and if this ever happens.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We do not see his starting point at the point the bullet was fired. We don't know where he was or if he was already running. We see Eric react after the bullet left the chamber.

You have speculation and no starting point.


I don't know since Eric's feat craps all over this. I will let you know when and if this ever happens.

R u intentionally delusional?

The 2 images right there shows the bullet fired and Stefan THEN coming in from the side. In fact I showed it to BloodRain and he confirmed it was a legit feat

So again I ask...

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO KNOW A 163 YEAR OLD TVD VAMP IS FASTER THEN A 1000 YEAR OLD TB VAMP? ;lol:

Yeah he doesn't trust my opinion..


Btw unless I'm just failing to see them, you might want to use some image hosting site (like photobucket) to upload your pics to. Right clicking to view on your browser doesn't show it to anyone but you.

But yeah, the guy moved Damon out of the path of an already fired bullet.