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Which team wins ?

Team 1

team 2 wins this. Danny has experience with fighting people of spider-man's caliber (daredevil, black panther, wolverine, spider-man) and I am certain that his iron fist could knock out at least one of them. Luke has also taken on spider-man twice and did fairly well against him and that was before his massive upgrades. Cain and flash are more likely to bicker with each other whereas Luke and Danny have years worth of experience with working with one another and always play to the other's strengths. Also, just in case anyone thinks that Cain or Venom would try to incapacitate Luke or Danny, they hardly ever use their webbing. Luke and Danny take this 7/10 but after a hard fought battle.

Good point about the team work. But if Flash goes full-Venom mode there are just too many options for him to win. He's already displayed old Venom's mind controlling abilities. Kaine has magical plot device stingers that ripped through the same armor that Rulk and Iron Man failed to scratch. He's also stronger than Spider-man.

Originally posted by SamZED
Good point about the team work. But if Flash goes full-Venom mode there are just too many options for him to win. He's already displayed old Venom's mind controlling abilities. Kaine has magical plot device stingers that ripped through the same armor that Rulk and Iron Man failed to scratch. He's also stronger than Spider-man. I highly doubt that he would use any mind controlling abilities. When he's angry, Venom fights more like a brick than anything else and Luke has dozens of good showings against bricks (Rhino, Tombstone, Ironclad, Wonder man, the hulk). I'm not sure if Kaine's stingers would hurt Luke because he has resisted the magical bite of vampires before and Danny is just two hard to hit. Also, being stronger than spider-man doesn't really count for much when fighting someone that is just as fast as spider-man and much more skilled. Danny might be considered a glass cannon but his healing factor and the aid of Luke would help keep him out of trouble.

The difference between Venom and other bricks like Rhino is that he has spider-man level speed and punching him is not going to accomplish much, it's like punching a giant killing goo monster, he could just suffocate Cage FTW. Danny is def out of Spider's league as far as skills go but it didn't put him head and shoulders above Spidey thanks to Pete's powers. While Kaine is a more powerfull, more ruthless version of Pete with oneshot kill tools at his disposal.

Originally posted by SamZED
The difference between Venom and other bricks like Rhino is that he has spider-man level speed and punching him is not going to accomplish much, it's like punching a giant killing goo monster, he could just suffocate Cage FTW. Danny is def out of Spider's league as far as skills go but it didn't put him head and shoulders above Spidey thanks to Pete's powers. While Kaine is a more powerfull, more ruthless version of Pete with oneshot kill tools at his disposal. I can certainly respect your opinion, Venom could suffocate Luke to death. However, when was the last time that Flash used such a tactic? Also, Luke and Danny always play to each other's strengths. If need be, Danny could just use his Iron fist on Venom. If I recall correctly, he has a move where he uses his Iron fist in a special way that sets his hand on fire without causing any physical damage to himself. Kaine will be problematic, however If Luke fights him, he might be able to keep Kaine preoccupied long enough for Danny to finish Venom and help Luke out. IMO the teamwork is the thing that changes this whole fight. Venom and Kaine are more likely to beat up each other than the Heroes for Hire.

T1 has the agility edge over T2 + spider sense?