Taskmaster vs. Prometheus
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Sixth_Winged
no prep
two of the most infamous copycats around duke it out.
standard everything for both, pre dcnu original prometheus.
deathslash
Takmaster all day, everyday, and twice on sunday.
pym-ftw
Super-Suit Prometheus wins
Standard versions leans toward the master of tasks.
Golgo13
Originally posted by pym-ftw
Super-Suit Prometheus wins
Standard versions leans toward the master of tasks.
Agreed, but even standard equipment allowed him to bfr.
Golgo13
How would Tasky defeat the last incarnation of Prometheus?
leonidas
pretty sure i'd take prometheus for a near 10/10....
abhilegend
Prometheus wins and there is no last incarnation of him. He has appeared in only three arcs and each time he nearly took down the whole JLA with his standard equipment.
Zack M
I wonder how DCnU Prometheus (Anti-Batman) will do against Midnighter. The last Prometheus would win in his sleep.
http://i64.tinypic.com/dzug6o.jpg
RadZoa
Even a chump using Proms armor took down Shiva pretty easily. With Promtheus during JLA and Cry for Justice he'd beat Taskmaster as if Taskmaster was a 5 year old with down syndrome.
DarkSaint85
Time and time again, Prometheus has shown that he can't deal with threats he hadn't prepped for...random encounter, he could try using his neural chaff and strobe lights, to throw Tasky off, who would then switch to Daredevil's style, and win.
RadZoa
Time and time again? He's only had like 3 major appearances and one of them wasn't even the real Prometheus. The other times were when Batman hacked his helmet which Taskmaster is unable to do, and when Green Arrow plucked him in the head
Also switch to Daredevil's style? Wut? Taskmaster switching to Daredevil's style doesn't give him Daredevil's senses
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by RadZoa
Time and time again? He's only had like 3 major appearances and one of them wasn't even the real Prometheus. The other times were when Batman hacked his helmet which Taskmaster is unable to do, and when Green Arrow plucked him in the head
Also switch to Daredevil's style? Wut? Taskmaster switching to Daredevil's style doesn't give him Daredevil's senses
You also forget when Catwoman infiltrated the JLA and with a whip, took him out.
Edit: the Cry for Justice mini also showed what happened when he met the Shade, who was a villain and thus Prometheus had NO files on. Guess what, he also got dominated then.
So if he has had 4 major appearances, with one not being him - that's 3 appearances, with one showing how he wasn't all that without prep (Catwoman, hardly a top tier MA) and the other with Batman hacking, and the Shade.
So, 66% of his showings agree with me
As for Daredevil (never said he had his senses, btw. My point was that he would fight blind):
http://i.imgur.com/F1v2ECR.jpg
abhilegend
Daredevil alone has defeated Taskmaster.
He is a ****ing joke these days. I wouldn't give him a win over Nightwing let alone Prometheus.
RadZoa
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You also forget when Catwoman infiltrated the JLA and with a whip, took him out.
Edit: the Cry for Justice mini also showed what happened when he met the Shade, who was a villain and thus Prometheus had NO files on. Guess what, he also got dominated then.
So if he has had 4 major appearances, with one not being him - that's 3 appearances, with one showing how he wasn't all that without prep (Catwoman, hardly a top tier MA) and the other with Batman hacking, and the Shade.
So, 66% of his showings agree with me
As for Daredevil (never said he had his senses, btw. My point was that he would fight blind):
http://i.imgur.com/F1v2ECR.jpg He would get his face kicked in horribly if he tried to fight Prometheus blind. The only reason it worked on Elektra is because she freaked out when she recognized Daredevil's style, one she got over it the next fight she 2 shotted him.
deathslash
Originally posted by RadZoa
He would get his face kicked in horribly if he tried to fight Prometheus blind. The only reason it worked on Elektra is because she freaked out when she recognized Daredevil's style, one she got over it the next fight she 2 shotted him. he's soloed cap and bucky at the same time without any prep.
Zack M
Let's see what dcnu prometheus brings to the table. With standard gear, I'd peg him above taskmaster. His neural scrambler will be nasty.
RadZoa
Originally posted by deathslash
he's soloed cap and bucky at the same time without any prep. When, you mean that fight during Siege that lasted a panel before Cap ran off to chase Osborne?
abhilegend
Originally posted by deathslash
he's soloed cap and bucky at the same time without any prep.
Did he now?
deathslash
Originally posted by RadZoa
When, you mean that fight during Siege that lasted a panel before Cap ran off to chase Osborne? more like a page or two.Originally posted by abhilegend
Did he now? decide for yourself how impressive it is.
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RadZoa
Originally posted by deathslash
more like a page or two. decide for yourself how impressive it is.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-1.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-2.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-3.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-4.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-5.jpg That's what you're hyping? All he did was hit Cap, then Cap kneed him and ran off. That's hardly an impressive feat
deathslash
Originally posted by RadZoa
That's what you're hyping? All he did was hit Cap, then Cap kneed him and ran off. That's hardly an impressive feat he fought Cap while blocking sustained fire from bucky (one of the better shots in marvel) and disarmed bucky while smacking cap. He then proceeded to look superior to bucky in their 1v1 fight as well. You would also do well to note that the only time he got hit was when he was distracted with taking care of bucky's weapon. Lastly, he was doing all of this without using his super speed and after he had fought hogun and fandral.
RadZoa
Originally posted by deathslash
he fought Cap while blocking sustained fire from bucky (one of the better shots in marvel) and disarmed bucky while smacking cap. Be then proceeded to look superior to bucky in their 1v1 fight as well. You would also do well to note that the only time he got hit was when he was distracted with taking care of bucky's weapon. Lastly, he was doing all of this without using his super speed and after he had fought hogun and fandral. Taskmaster could beat either of these 2 one on one but that fight didn't last long enough to see how Taskmaster would of done against both of them.
In fact look when Cap knees Taskmaster. Tasky is on his knees and instead of continuing to attack him, Cap ran off instead. One could easily argue that Cap could of continued his assault on Tasky right there take him out easily.
deathslash
Originally posted by RadZoa
Taskmaster could beat either of these 2 one on one but that fight didn't last long enough to see how Taskmaster would of done against both of them.
In fact look when Cap knees Taskmaster. Tasky is on his knees and instead of continuing to attack him, Cap ran off instead. One could easily argue that Cap could of continued his assault on Tasky right there take him out easily. that could be a valid argument, if we didn't know about about taskmaster's durability and pain endurance feats. The guy's shaken off being blasted by quake, been shot without showing any sign of pain, been shot by Hawkeye and still didn't let that hinder his ability to dodge his arrows, he's also been smacked around by an enraged spider-man and was still in fighting condition.
Zack M
Deathlash, how does tasky get around his neural scrambler and ghost key? Among other tech and equal fighting ability thanks to the cd uploaded in his helmet?
Vanguard
Im going with Taskmaster. But this one could go either way.
Zack M
Yeah, no prep fight is close. Prometheus with prep is a stomp, of course.
deathslash
Originally posted by Zack M
Deathlash, how does tasky get around his neural scrambler and ghost key? Among other tech and equal fighting ability thanks to the cd uploaded in his helmet? meh. It's already been shown before that prometheus is capable of losing to a character that he doesn't have a file on. He's also a really cocky and arrogant motherf*cker, so I doubt that he'll resort to using those sort of gadgets right off the bat. Also, as the fight goes on, taskmaster will get a better understanding of his skills and will be dancing circles around him because he'll know what prom will do before he even does it. Also, it's been a while since I've read anything with prometheus in it and I'm wondering what the neural scrambler does.
Sure, taskmaster doesn't really have an an answer to bfr. Likewise, the question here is if prometheus has an answer to a super fast, insanely skilled martial artist that he's never even heard of that has the skills of the greatest martial artists in his universe.
Zack M
Originally posted by deathslash
meh. It's already been shown before that prometheus is capable of losing to a character that he doesn't have a file on. He's also a really cocky and arrogant motherf*cker, so I doubt that he'll resort to using those sort of gadgets right off the bat. Also, as the fight goes on, taskmaster will get a better understanding of his skills and will be dancing circles around him because he'll know what prom will do before he even does it. Also, it's been a while since I've read anything with prometheus in it and I'm wondering what the neural scrambler does.
Sure, taskmaster doesn't really have an an answer to bfr. Likewise, the question here is if prometheus has an answer to a super fast, insanely skilled martial artist that he's never even heard of that has the skills of the greatest martial artists in his universe.
It's not like he's helpless against other MA, though
. Speed won't matter, because the last suit prometheus used had him doing nano speed reaction to the Flash.
abhilegend
Originally posted by deathslash
more like a page or two. decide for yourself how impressive it is.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-1.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-2.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-3.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-4.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-5.jpg
Not impressive enough. Bullseye has fought both Elektra and Daredevil at once with better results. Originally posted by deathslash
meh. It's already been shown before that prometheus is capable of losing to a character that he doesn't have a file on. He's also a really cocky and arrogant motherf*cker, so I doubt that he'll resort to using those sort of gadgets right off the bat. Also, as the fight goes on, taskmaster will get a better understanding of his skills and will be dancing circles around him because he'll know what prom will do before he even does it. Also, it's been a while since I've read anything with prometheus in it and I'm wondering what the neural scrambler does.
Sure, taskmaster doesn't really have an an answer to bfr. Likewise, the question here is if prometheus has an answer to a super fast, insanely skilled martial artist that he's never even heard of that has the skills of the greatest martial artists in his universe.
That worked so great against Daredevil and Deadpool, right?
Dancing around prometheus? GTFO of here.
This is why I called you bizarro prep man if you are wondering.
deathslash
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not impressive enough. Bullseye has fought both Elektra and Daredevil at once with better results.
That worked so great against Daredevil and Deadpool, right?
Dancing around prometheus? GTFO of here.
This is why I called you bizarro prep man if you are wondering. daredevil outright admitted that tasky was toying with him and deadpool only won because he's an expert martial artist that has a completely unreadable moveset.
Let me ask you a question. If you we going to fight someone that's more or less physically your equal but you know every single type of attack that they could throw at you and could even predict their next attack with perfect accuracy based off of their previous attack patterns, would you be able to dance circles around them?
Zack M
Originally posted by deathslash
daredevil outright admitted that tasky was toying with him and deadpool only won because he's an expert martial artist that has a completely unreadable moveset.
Let me ask you a question. If you we going to fight someone that's more or less physically your equal but you know every single type of attack that they could throw at you and could even predict their next attack with perfect accuracy based off of their previous attack patterns, would you be able to dance circles around them?
Prometheus suit makes him above tasky in speed.
deathslash
Originally posted by Zack M
Prometheus suit makes him above tasky in speed. how fast does it make him? Taskmaster is fast enough to catch bullets and is a low level speedster when he wants to be.
Zack M
Like I said before, fast enough to dodge the Flash, Jay Garrick. I think he had nano second reaction time.
DarkSaint85
Not faster than Selina Kyle.
Zack M
He got an upgrade, bro.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by RadZoa
He would get his face kicked in horribly if he tried to fight Prometheus blind. The only reason it worked on Elektra is because she freaked out when she recognized Daredevil's style, one she got over it the next fight she 2 shotted him.
And when Prometheus freaks out over new opponents (Catwoman, Shade) he gets taken out.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Zack M
Like I said before, fast enough to dodge the Flash, Jay Garrick. I think he had nano second reaction time.
The reason he took the Flash down, was because Shade was there:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/2/27470/1117311-cry_for_justice_06017.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/2/27470/1117313-cry_for_justice_06018.jpg
Am I saying he falls over, crying, just because he meets a new villain? NO.
I am merely saying that a split second is all he needs. Taskmaster likes to Shawsplain his powers (I can copy any fighting style yadda yadda).
Prometheus will swap between style, then realise Tasky is copying him.
He would then pull his strobe lights out ('copy this').
But he doesn't realise Tasky can fight blind.
Q99
I will note his entire anti-Batman plan was "thanks to helmet and weapon, be better in a fight than Batman."
Zack M
Originally posted by Q99
I will note his entire anti-Batman plan was "thanks to helmet and weapon, be better in a fight than Batman."
Wasn't there a time when his suit had nano second reaction time? I know in CFJ, his suit was designed to take down every meta on earth.
DarkSaint85
Not every meta.
RadZoa
Originally posted by deathslash
that could be a valid argument, if we didn't know about about taskmaster's durability and pain endurance feats. The guy's shaken off being blasted by quake, been shot without showing any sign of pain, been shot by Hawkeye and still didn't let that hinder his ability to dodge his arrows, he's also been smacked around by an enraged spider-man and was still in fighting condition. How good do you think his durability and pain tolerance is when he goes down after a knee from Cap? How is his durability going to play into effect with both Cap and Bucky simultaneously pounding on him?
Hell if Bucky truly wanted to, he could of shot Tasky while he was on his knees still recovering from Caps hit
abhilegend
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And when Prometheus freaks out over new opponents (Catwoman, Shade) he gets taken out.
He wasn't beaten in either case.

abhilegend
Originally posted by deathslash
daredevil outright admitted that tasky was toying with him and deadpool only won because he's an expert martial artist that has a completely unreadable moveset.
No, Daredevil even beat him with a few more villains.
Deadpool is solid B level MA. He ****ing embarrassed Taskmaster.
If Taskmaster was only that capable. He is a ****ing jobber
deathslash
Originally posted by abhilegend
No, Daredevil even beat him with a few more villains.
Deadpool is solid B level MA. He ****ing embarrassed Taskmaster.
If Taskmaster was only that capable. He is a ****ing jobber deadpool is good enough to go toe to toe with daredevil, he's beaten on crossbones, sabretooth, stalemated iron fist and even beat on captain america. Even if he was B list in martial arts, he still has a healing factor that keeps him in the fight no matter what.
Except that the last time he appeared, he casually owned nick fury Jr, stalemated captain america, and took a blast to the face from quake and was still just fine.
abhilegend
Originally posted by deathslash
deadpool is good enough to go toe to toe with daredevil, he's beaten on crossbones, sabretooth, stalemated iron fist and even beat on captain america. Even if he was B list in martial arts, he still has a healing factor that keeps him in the fight no matter what.
Except that the last time he appeared, he casually owned nick fury Jr, stalemated captain america, and took a blast to the face from quake and was still just fine.
Yeah, list off a few of highest showing for everyone and ignore everything else. Deadpool didn't use his HF to beat Taskmaster, he flat out destroyed him in h2h.
You are doing it now too.
Prometheus took down entire JLA. Twice. Heck his sidekick took out Shiva in three seconds using his armor.
Totally doable by random MA from marvel, right bizarro prep man?
Mindset
DP has fought evenly with the best MA in marvel.
How is he B-level?
DarkSaint85
B-level MA?
Catwoman surprises Prometheus, and uses her whip:
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/catwomanprometheus10-620x963.jpg
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/catwomanprometheus11-620x960.jpg
Not sure how you 'forget' about Huntress, lol, but my point still stands:
When faced with new opponents, Prometheus is knocked off balance for a couple of seconds.
As for Taskmaster/Deadpool, Taskmaster held back - not to mention, DP has that insane HF (which Prometheus doesn't). Once Taskmaster stopped holding back, he actually stabbed DP in the chest.
Zack M
Prometheus's new suit has a lot of goodies that could take down Taskmaster. It's not like Tasky will one-shot Prometheus, anyway.
DarkSaint85
What did he have?
Zack M
Which one are we using? Cry For Justice or Morrison's?
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Zack M
Which one are we using? Cry For Justice or Morrison's?
They're the same guy, no?
abhilegend
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
B-level MA?
Catwoman surprises Prometheus, and uses her whip:
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/catwomanprometheus10-620x963.jpg
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/catwomanprometheus11-620x960.jpg
Not sure how you 'forget' about Huntress, lol, but my point still stands:
When faced with new opponents, Prometheus is knocked off balance for a couple of seconds.
As for Taskmaster/Deadpool, Taskmaster held back - not to mention, DP has that insane HF (which Prometheus doesn't). Once Taskmaster stopped holding back, he actually stabbed DP in the chest.
I'm not sure how that works here.
As per rules, Prometheus gets the general knowledge of Taskmaster.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm not sure how that works here.
As per rules, Prometheus gets the general knowledge of Taskmaster.
He doesn't get prep time...
Unless you think his toxic darts are standard equip?
Vulcan forged bullets?
Augmented bacteria?
Phenol chloroform?
I mean, if all the toys and darts he used were standard equipment, then yes, he unloads them all, and something will stick.
Getting general knowledge means he knows Tasky copies powers by sight. So he'll start using the strobe lights to disorient him, then just use the fighting styles off his CD.
abhilegend
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He doesn't get prep time...
Unless you think his toxic darts are standard equip?
Vulcan forged bullets?
Augmented bacteria?
Phenol chloroform?
I mean, if all the toys and darts he used were standard equipment, then yes, he unloads them all, and something will stick.
Getting general knowledge means he knows Tasky copies powers by sight. So he'll start using the strobe lights to disorient him, then just use the fighting styles off his CD.
He didn't need all that to beat the shit out of Batman. Morrison's batman.
Taskmaster might as well be Alfred against that level.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by abhilegend
He didn't need all that to beat the shit out of Batman. Morrison's batman.
Taskmaster might as well be Alfred against that level.
True. Morrison's Batman was straight up owning him, breaking his jaw, until he cheap shotted him (Batman, after all, was only there to bring him to justice, not kill):
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/2532/1024604-prometheus3.jpg
abhilegend
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
True. Morrison's Batman was straight up owning him, breaking his jaw, until he cheap shotted him (Batman, after all, was only there to bring him to justice, not kill):
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/2532/1024604-prometheus3.jpg
What happened to the same Batman first time?
Batman tasered him with his own weapon first and then hit him.
Morrison's batman would break Taskmaster in half.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by abhilegend
What happened to the same Batman first time?
Batman tasered him with his own weapon first and then hit him.
Morrison's batman would break Taskmaster in half.
I.e. when Bats was unprepared for him?
Unless you're somehow saying in between the first and second battle, Prometheus downgraded?
Because in the page preceding the one I posted, Batman was handling Prometheus just fine (i.e. even before the tasering - and you're acting like his tasering him is something Tasky can't replicate).
leonidas
i'd def take prometheus. that dude was bada$$...
abhilegend
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I.e. when Bats was unprepared for him?
Unless you're somehow saying in between the first and second battle, Prometheus downgraded?
Because in the page preceding the one I posted, Batman was handling Prometheus just fine (i.e. even before the tasering - and you're acting like his tasering him is something Tasky can't replicate).
Or Batman compensated for skills of 30 best MA in the world.
Taskmaster can't do that. Heck, he can't even beat Daredevil.
Your ability to say most asinine things are just astounding.
RadZoa
Taskmaster could beat probably beat Daredevil but the dude is extremely cocky and arrogant and that lead to him getting hit by a car
However, Elektra did beat Taskmaster, even though it's an extremely low end showing for him, so is Prometheus and Cat Woman.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by abhilegend
Or Batman compensated for skills of 30 best MA in the world.
Taskmaster can't do that. Heck, he can't even beat Daredevil.
Your ability to say most asinine things are just astounding.
You keep saying asinine, but I don't think you know quite what it means.
Batman compensated for the 30 best MA in the world....
One of which was Batman himself.
So either Batman> Batman, or Prometheus' CD wasn't all that.
abhilegend
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You keep saying asinine, but I don't think you know quite what it means.
Batman compensated for the 30 best MA in the world....
One of which was Batman himself.
So either Batman> Batman, or Prometheus' CD wasn't all that.
Morrison's batman.
He is crazy like that.
It doesn't diminish Prometheus.
Zack M
Prometheus stacked with God Garden tech and copied Midnighter to boot? Uber.
http://i68.tinypic.com/2dv74ab.jpg
Decter
Originally posted by deathslash
more like a page or two. decide for yourself how impressive it is.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-1.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-2.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-3.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-4.jpghttp://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z259/almightykfish/Taskmaster%20Respect%20thread/th_2Caps-5.jpg
Is it me or did they not once attack him at the same time?
You would think having numbers would make try to gang up on him....
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Zack M
Prometheus stacked with God Garden tech and copied Midnighter to boot? Uber.
That's nothing we haven't seen, from preboot Prometheus, tbh.
Zack M
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's nothing we haven't seen, from preboot Prometheus, tbh.
He's copied Midnighter. Midnighter hasn't existed Pre-Flashpoint in the DCU. Plus, cells that can dampen enhancements? Have we seen that?
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