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I wanted to see Jedi get massacred? Anyone else wanted that?

Then it wouldnt have been just a PG13 rating. Did you miss the part where Anakin was going to slaughter helpless children?

i think he meant anakin cutting down jedi in an action sequence as opposed to a stupid 3 second hologram. im pretty sure that he's not wishing we could have seen the younglings die.

Yah, I meant Anakin going head to head with masters and knights...not some helpless kids

The entire problem of not seeing a noble hero fall to darkness notwithstanding, if that aspect had actually been done then seeing Anakin going in and killing his own people would have been all the more tragic. Nothing gory or sadistic, maybe see in his face that he hates having to do what he feels is very necessary. It didn't need to be an actual scene all its own, nor did it need to be an intense, action-packed scene. Maybe turn down the sound and let the sombre music do the talking, have it done with back-to-back cutaways of the clones killing the Jedi out in the galaxy.


Of course the whole trilogy needs a massive overhaul, so if done right, what we think of in regards to Order 66 may be wholly changed with a better screenplay.

Yeah this^ remake is needed

no remake. just bury it like a cat buries a turd, and release the unmolested version of the OT. cancel the sequel abortion trilogy and let it rest.

That's even better :P

I would have liked to see him duel Shaak Ti or Cin Dralig. Or perhaps both. But given ROTS had the most duels of any film already, I guess that was pushing it.

But seeing him outduel Cin Dralig or some other hyped dueling champ would have been nice for establishing Vader's power. I guess ultimately it would have been useless since the Jedi Council was reduced to Mace, Yoda, Kenobi with an occasional side of Ki-Adi Mundi.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The entire problem of not seeing a noble hero fall to darkness notwithstanding, if that aspect had actually been done then seeing Anakin going in and killing his own people would have been all the more tragic. Nothing gory or sadistic, maybe see in his face that he hates having to do what he feels is very necessary. It didn't need to be an actual scene all its own, nor did it need to be an intense, action-packed scene. Maybe turn down the sound and let the sombre music do the talking, have it done with back-to-back cutaways of the clones killing the Jedi out in the galaxy.


Of course the whole trilogy needs a massive overhaul, so if done right, what we think of in regards to Order 66 may be wholly changed with a better screenplay.

Hmmm..


On second thought, a remake does sound pretty good. So when do you start filming?

As soon as we reach our $100 million goal on Kickstarter. Every penny counts.


Unless you're Canadian. We don't have pennies anymore, so f*ck off with them.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
As soon as we reach our $100 million goal on Kickstarter. Every penny counts.

Do you really think you could do that whole think for uder $100 mil, though? (No, dadudemon, that was clearly an off the cuff statement...stop being too literal). I know.




Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Unless you're Canadian. We don't have pennies anymore, so f*ck off with them.


Your comment worth only 2 Half Cents.

Yes. Though I'd take the Adam Sandler route though and pay myself too much while producing a disgustingly subpar film.

Srsly, I think it could be done. A damn good sci-fi story could be made with 1/10 of a billion dollars. Just don't go nucking futs with the CGI. Or getting actors who demand too much despite not being worth it.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
YSrsly, I think it could be done. A damn good sci-fi story could be made with 1/10 of a billion dollars. Just don't go nucking futs with the CGI. Or getting actors who demand too much despite not being worth it.

Did not George Lucas do that for ANH (getting mostly no-name actors so his budget wasn't blown)?


We're going to get in trouble, again.

Exactly. Early George Lucas was so much better. His new albums suck.



And I am the trouble. I am the one who mods.

Originally posted by focus4chumps


Hmm. Not much changed. The story differences are mostly cosmetic from the 1981 thing you listed, there.

I like the Jedi Temple raid better, however. That's one change I'm glad got added to the final piece.

right anakin spending at least one entire film as a closet serial killer of jedi was a 'cosmetic' difference.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
right anakin spending at least one entire film as a closet serial killer of jedi was a 'cosmetic' difference.

And, instead, he spent 2 films being a closet mass-murderer of even innocent children: not just a religious war being waged on the down-low.

The final version ended up being more visceral and real. Glad that version is what we got.


Though I would definitely have liked the Jedi Temple Raid to be seen on screen...as I've indicated, before. In AotC, he started the slaughter on screen but they cut away before shit got real (or should I say "reel". HA! PUN!).

Originally posted by dadudemon
And, instead, he spent 2 films being a closet mass-murderer of even innocent children: not just a religious war being waged on the down-low.
nope

potential mass murderer? yes.

"closeted" suggests that he actually is a mass murderer in secret or he is fighting the constant urge to be a mass murderer.

nothing in the films beyond the tusken slaughter suggests either, even remotely. in fact overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
nope

potential mass murderer? yes.

"closeted" suggests that he actually is a mass murderer in secret or he is fighting the constant urge to be a mass murderer.

My bad. I guess all those men, women, and children he murdered in the Sand People camp in Episode II wasn't a mass murder that was kept secret inside some sort of metaphorical dwelling enclosure that houses clothing.


For me, that's overwhelming evidence that Anakin was mass murderer in the making...something Yoda touched on in Episode 1. It's almost as if a single person wrote Episodes 1-3.


And the slaying of all the younglings in the temple, afterwards? That most certainly wasn't a culmination of his issues, at all.

Originally posted by dadudemon
My bad. I guess all those men, women, and children he murdered in the Sand People camp in Episode II wasn't a mass murder that was kept secret inside some sort of metaphorical dwelling enclosure that houses clothing.

do you think you're cute when you delete the very part of my quote that argues against your point? (its actually downright infantile)


Originally posted by focus4chumps
nothing in the films beyond the tusken slaughter suggests either, even remotely. in fact overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

-before the tusken slaughter he had committed no murder.

-between the time of the tusken slaughter and anakin's turn to darth vader (aprox 3 years), he had committed no murder. /fact.

-the tusken slaughter was triggered by rage at the torture and death of his own mother. this was not anakin's typical impulse as you are tying to insist by calling him a 'closeted mass murderer'.

Originally posted by dadudemon
For me, that's overwhelming evidence that Anakin was mass murderer in the making...something Yoda touched on in Episode 1. It's almost as if a single person wrote Episodes 1-3.


agreed. a mass murderer in the making. not a closeted mass murderer.

do you really need to do 20 pages of your trademark flailing and logical gymnastics because you're too immature to admit that you misapplied the word "closeted"?


Originally posted by dadudemon
And the slaying of all the younglings in the temple, afterwards? That most certainly wasn't a culmination of his issues, at all.


yes he turned mass murderer when he became darth vader. good sleuthing.




now get madder and repeat the same fallacious assertions as if having the last word makes you right.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
do you think you're cute when you delete the very part of my quote that argues against your point? (its actually downright infantile)

Not nearly as cute as you ignoring the section of my post, in that very same post you're whining about, that directly addressed the section I did not quote. yawn




Originally posted by focus4chumps
between the time of the tusken slaughter and anakin's turn to darth vader, he had not been a mass murderer. /fact.


False. He was already a mass-murderer at that point and he kills again before the Jedi Temple Raid. Or are you forgetting he killed Dooku after he clearly defeated him?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
agreed. a mass murderer in the making. not a closeted mass murderer.

Incorrect. He did not reveal that he had just mass-murdered an entire tribe of Tuskans. His secret was swept under the rug by himself and Padme. He proceeded with his Jedi career as though nothing happened.

It is quite obvious that you have no clue what "closeted mass murderer" means.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
do you really need to do 20 pages of your trademark flailing and logical gymnastics because you're too immature to admit that you misapplied the word "closeted"?

These words apply to you Mr. Transformers threads.



Originally posted by focus4chumps
yes he turned mass murderer when he became darth vader. good sleuthing.

About those Tuskans...




Originally posted by focus4chumps
now get madder and repeat the same fallacious assertions as if having the last word makes you right.

You COULD waste more time backpeddling and being wrong. You could...

im not going to allow you to bait me into yet another redundant and fruitless exchange because you need to assert your bootless assertions with fallacious drivel and semantics clowning. grow up.

Originally posted by dadudemon

These words apply to you Mr. Transformers threads.


is that the motive for your antics?
obvious cross-forum butthurt? how infantile.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
im not going to allow you to bait me into yet another redundant and fruitless exchange because you need to assert your bootless assertions with fallacious drivel and semantics clowning. grow up.

That's my line... You can't pretend to be a victim of your own machinations.


Originally posted by focus4chumps
is that the motive for your antics?
obvious cross-forum butthurt? how infantile.

Yeah, because we argued soooo much in those threads right?

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Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
I would have liked to see him duel Shaak Ti or Cin Dralig. Or perhaps both. But given ROTS had the most duels of any film already, I guess that was pushing it.

But seeing him outduel Cin Dralig or some other hyped dueling champ would have been nice for establishing Vader's power. I guess ultimately it would have been useless since the Jedi Council was reduced to Mace, Yoda, Kenobi with an occasional side of Ki-Adi Mundi. Shaak Ti or Cin Dralig ? Shaak Ti is said to have a escaped and killed by vaders appentice star killer

Cin Drallig, Whie, Scout, Barriss Offee, and maybe a few other named jedi unknowns would have been fine

Who?

Only name I recognized was Cin Drallig....that was Nic Gillard, the stunt coordinator's name spelled backward who was one of the Jedi that appeared in the hologram.

The other three are a misspelling of Winnie from the Wonder Years, a Harper Lee character, and Folger's main rival.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The entire problem of not seeing a noble hero fall to darkness notwithstanding, if that aspect had actually been done then seeing Anakin going in and killing his own people would have been all the more tragic. Nothing gory or sadistic, maybe see in his face that he hates having to do what he feels is very necessary. It didn't need to be an actual scene all its own, nor did it need to be an intense, action-packed scene. Maybe turn down the sound and let the sombre music do the talking, have it done with back-to-back cutaways of the clones killing the Jedi out in the galaxy.


Of course the whole trilogy needs a massive overhaul, so if done right, what we think of in regards to Order 66 may be wholly changed with a better screenplay.

I forgot about this post. It is a gem. So, to sound like a broken record...


A+ suggestions.





The killing sequence you suggested would have been a massive improvement.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
no remake. just bury it like a cat buries a turd, and release the unmolested version of the OT. cancel the sequel abortion trilogy and let it rest.

They are going to release the OT unmolested.


But screw your idea of not releasing a ST. uhuh I want an ST.

Look forward to the OOT. ON blu ray please.