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Fist fight...no bfring. Who wins?

....this isn't spite because........?

Stalemate's the best Superman could manage here..

^ but what happens when he begins to run out of steam? Juggernauts never tire.

colossonaut was pathetic.

Didn't Colossonaught like fall into the snow and get knocked out? lol
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He was stunned and Magneto threw him into orbit. Said so in your own scan lol.

Originally posted by vince_slice
Didn't Colossonaught like fall into the snow and get knocked out? lol
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Oh that was a low blow. Why not just take Superman's worst showing and throw it into the mix, and maybe this will be a stalemate? There is strong evidence that points to a Juggernauts ability to rise in power based on how attuned they are to Cyttorak, and in Pete's case, he was beasting when he fought Rulk. In Cain's case he was during the 7th-8th day arc.

So is this at their best or worse?

Superman

Even then, there was a reason he had Magneto put Colossus in orbit. Because if he hadn't, he would have gotten up in about 2 seconds and handed Unit his ass.

Colossonaut suffers from Yat Syndrome.

Considering his lowest showing is against a being that is the most technologically advanced creation of a species billions if not trillions of years ahead of all the current stuff in the universe at the time, and whose sole purpose is to make people do what he says by talking, he didn't do too bad. He even took over Magneto and sowed the seed that got Phoenix Namor and Phoenix Emma to have that mental tryst behind Scott's back.

Unit was a beast.

Originally posted by KingD19
Considering his lowest showing is against a being that is the most technologically advanced creation of a species billions if not trillions of years ahead of all the current stuff in the universe at the time, and whose sole purpose is to make people do what he says by talking, he didn't do too bad. He even took over Magneto and sowed the seed that got Phoenix Namor and Phoenix Emma to have that mental tryst behind Scott's back.

Unit was a beast.
It was due to falling face first in the snow, lets not exaggerate it.Originally posted by Stoic
Oh that was a low blow. Why not just take Superman's worst showing and throw it into the mix, and maybe this will be a stalemate? There is strong evidence that points to a Juggernauts ability to rise in power based on how attuned they are to Cyttorak, and in Pete's case, he was beasting when he fought Rulk. In Cain's case he was during the 7th-8th day arc.

So is this at their best or worse?
His low showing would be worthy juggernaut with only serpent's power easily breaking his bones.

Yeah. Falling face first in the snow. When as normal Colossus he tanked a Celestial bomb blowing a hole clean through his torso and got right back up. Or fell 50,000 feet(again as normal Colossus), or went toe to toe with Rulk and War Machine(as normal Colossus).

That's the absolute lowest showing, and I'm pretty sure Colossus himself wasn't even as stunned as people are making it out to be. If he was stunned like the others, there would be no reason for Unit to need him in orbit.

What can I say, colossus is useless like that.

He was stunned and it was outright stated in the comic. No amount of teeth-gnashing would retcon it. Also he didn't went against Rulk in normal form and Rulk outright caught his punch and tossed him away in juggernaut form on the moon.

When they fought on the Hellicarrier, his helmet was off. It's clear from tons of on panel evidence that when he summons the helmet, he's in Juggernaut mode. When he's just bald, he's Colossus.

As for the moon fight, Rulk knocked him away, but he was unharmed and seemed like he wasn't even paying much attention. But going by their earlier fight while Colossus walked the dog on Rulk, it shouldn't have happened.

But that's more evidence of Avenger wank in AvX. Like Cap shrugging off Gambit's explosions or one-shotting Warpath.

Originally posted by KingD19
When they fought on the Hellicarrier, his helmet was off. It's clear from tons of on panel evidence that when he summons the helmet, he's in Juggernaut mode. When he's just bald, he's Colossus.

As for the moon fight, Rulk knocked him away, but he was unharmed and seemed like he wasn't even paying much attention. But going by their earlier fight while Colossus walked the dog on Rulk, it shouldn't have happened.

But that's more evidence of Avenger wank in AvX. Like Cap shrugging off Gambit's explosions or one-shotting Warpath.
It was artist error mostly. He was wearing the costume of juggernaut with all the armbands and what not. Thing evaporated his helmet too, does that mean he wasn't juggernaut at that time?

What? Rulk was beating the shit out of him untill he went demon mode. Also punch catching is usually showed for a strength edge.

Yeah, Thor was cleaning shop, right?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
colossonaut was pathetic.
Exactly. Superman wins.

Originally posted by abhilegend
His low showing would be worthy juggernaut with only serpent's power easily breaking his bones.

Why? I don't know what the exact nature is but the Serpent is easily one of the greatest sources of power in Marvel. It's not like Juggernaut Colossus particularly squishy or something, we saw him shrug off hits from beings like Thing and Rulk etc.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why? I don't know what the exact nature is but the Serpent is easily one of the greatest sources of power in Marvel. It's not like Juggernaut Colossus particularly squishy or something, we saw him shrug off hits from beings like Thing and Rulk etc.
Because after that Wolverine beat Marko in "mighty" armor.

Considering 5 days of benching pressing the earth out of the sunlight and drawing only a single drop of sweat.

Superman wins.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because after that Wolverine beat Marko in "mighty" armor.

Wolverine was amped...heavily amped and the fight happened off panel so we dont know if Wolverine did it by himself.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Considering 5 days of benching pressing the earth out of the sunlight and drawing only a single drop of sweat.

Superman wins. What does bench pressing the claimed weight of the earth on a machine ( not the earth ) has to do with h2h fighting? I can bench 375 6 times, but my coach ( who cannot bench 200 ) can kick my butt.

Lol Colossusnaut was shit.

Pete was a disappointing Juggernaut. In theory Supes should lose/get worn out unless he BFRs, but Colossonaut will probably depower himself of forget that he got instant regeneration. Superman wins.

Originally posted by Stoic
Oh that was a low blow. Why not just take Superman's worst showing and throw it into the mix.

wtf? unlike superman colossusnaut has very few showings, and among those showings we got this showing, and we also got him fighting kurrth and admiting he is hurt physically.
also the way Rulk treated him its just pathetic.
with all that its safe 100% to say for some reason colossusnaut is not classic juggernaut and he can be damaged physically, therefor superman Stomps him to the point its a mega spite.
now close this shit son.

Originally posted by JBL
What does bench pressing the claimed weight of the earth on a machine ( not the earth ) has to do with h2h fighting? I can bench 375 6 times, but my coach ( who cannot bench 200 ) can kick my butt.

Would your coach win if you were many times faster than him and at least similarly skilled in h2h as him if not better?

Originally posted by JBL
What does bench pressing the claimed weight of the earth on a machine ( not the earth ) has to do with h2h fighting? I can bench 375 6 times, but my coach ( who cannot bench 200 ) can kick my butt.

That's because you're a clutz, superman isn't.

Originally posted by Diesldude
That's because you're a clutz, superman isn't. Im real. Superman is not.

Originally posted by JBL
Im real. Superman is not.

And Colossonaut is?

Originally posted by Diesldude
And Colossonaut is? What do you think? You insult a REAL person on a comic book site. They must be real to you. Grow up and debate like a person or go to a kids site and insult each other over spongebob and Mr crab. I wish they had an age limit here.

Originally posted by JBL
What does bench pressing the claimed weight of the earth on a machine ( not the earth ) has to do with h2h fighting? I can bench 375 6 times, but my coach ( who cannot bench 200 ) can kick my butt. It's because you're a little bit ch.

Originally posted by JBL
What does bench pressing the claimed weight of the earth on a machine ( not the earth ) has to do with h2h fighting? I can bench 375 6 times, but my coach ( who cannot bench 200 ) can kick my butt.

Originally posted by JBL
The internet is such a safe place. You can say anything while cowering in the safety of your home. Gotta love the internet. I imagine a little bit ch like you really does love the internet

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Would your coach win if you were many times faster than him and at least similarly skilled in h2h as him if not better? Yes he would. I am faster than him and has sparred against him in the ring and held my own, BUT he can and has floored me with far greater punching power. My weightlifting does not help me when we start trading blows.

Originally posted by JBL
Classic coward response. I've just found a picture of JBL.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-02elVxAhI5s/URZcYJkm8VI/AAAAAAAAEHw/FcnzzKDoVe0/s1600/fite+me+irl+fgt.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because after that Wolverine beat Marko in "mighty" armor.

So Worthy Juggernaut was getting cut up (Because that's all that we see btw but don't let that stop you) by Wolverine empowered by Odin means what exactly?

For the record, all the Mighty were shit stomping the Worthy. Odin's a boss but we all knew that already though.

Originally posted by JBL
Yes he would. I am faster than him and has sparred against him in the ring and held my own, BUT he can and has floored me with far greater punching power. My weightlifting does not help me when we start trading blows.

The gap between your speed and your coach is the same or roughly similar than the same between Superman and Colossus? What I'm saying is that Superman is better than him in every way, so him benching the weight of the earth means a lot in this fight since he's got everything else over him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It was artist error mostly. He was wearing the costume of juggernaut with all the armbands and what not.



And yet here you spend an entire thread denying an obvious coloring error:
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,252649.msg4224198.html#msg4224198



I can't decide who's Abhil true arch enemy, context or consistency.

Funny thread.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
The gap between your speed and your coach is the same or roughly similar than the same between Superman and Colossus? What I'm saying is that Superman is better than him in every way, so him benching the weight of the earth means a lot in this fight since he's got everything else over him. I agree.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


And yet here you spend an entire thread denying an obvious coloring error:
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,252649.msg4224198.html#msg4224198



I can't decide who's Abhil true arch enemy, context or consistency. LMAO!

Originally posted by JBL
Reporting idiots is fun. . PLEASE GIVE MR MORE. Who is Mr More? I'm not holding him hostage, where would I give him from?

Unless he's in your mother's closet, in which case brb.

Originally posted by JBL
What do you think? You insult a REAL person on a comic book site. They must be real to you. Grow up and debate like a person or go to a kids site and insult each other over spongebob and Mr crab. I wish they had an age limit here.
No you dimwit, how can I debate with an idiot who couldn't understand that you being a Klutz was the reason for you to lose against your "weaker" coach.

Superman the comic book character is stronger than colossusnaut.
Superman the comic book character isn't a klutz like you are in real life. So he wouldn't lose to a weaker comic book character like you would lose to your "weaker" coach. You're just a loser, accept it, it's the first step to recovery.

Yeah, he's "cowering" even on the internet.

:Lol: @ the low balling and internet tough guys attitudes.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So Worthy Juggernaut was getting cut up (Because that's all that we see btw but don't let that stop you) by Wolverine empowered by Odin means what exactly?

For the record, all the Mighty were shit stomping the Worthy. Odin's a boss but we all knew that already though.
He was beaten off panel. That doesn't take much imagination to how powerful he was.

Also getting your bones broke and skull being split open by a class 100 isn't a very good showing any way you slice it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


And yet here you spend an entire thread denying an obvious coloring error:
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,252649.msg4224198.html#msg4224198



I can't decide who's Abhil true arch enemy, context or consistency.
facepalm

Do you really went to the lengths of finding a thread where I posted something? Man, I didn't know I have such a fan. Hey guys, Rage getting his shit pushed in on ICT is a recurring process. Rage once argued that this was a different scene altogether from Defenders 10, just because it said Hours instead of hour.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor4fight6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor4fight7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor4fight8.jpg

This is different encounter than this obviously

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/HulkThorEqual.jpg

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,223611.msg3693032.html#msg3693032
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,225588.msg3732147.html#msg3732147
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,223716.msg3694130.html#msg3694130
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,215999.msg3524487.html#msg3524487

There are much more embarrassing instances of you getting owned on ICT, rage. Stones and glass houses and all that shit.

.

Originally posted by abhilegend
facepalm

Do you really went to the lengths of finding a thread where I posted something? Man, I didn't know I have such a fan. Hey guys, Rage getting his shit pushed in on ICT is a recurring process. Rage once argued that this was a different scene altogether from Defenders 10, just because it said Hours instead of hour.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor4fight6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor4fight7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/hulkthor4fight8.jpg

This is different encounter than this obviously

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/HulkThorEqual.jpg

http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,223611.msg3693032.html#msg3693032
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,225588.msg3732147.html#msg3732147
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,223716.msg3694130.html#msg3694130
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,215999.msg3524487.html#msg3524487

There are much more embarrassing instances of you getting owned on ICT, rage. Stones and glass houses and all that shit.

I posted a thread that was maybe two weeks old (?) and you quote link specific posts from over 3 years ago that I don't even remember but I'm the one digging up stuff? Okay lol.

Also these are the only references I see to what you're talking about:



And it isn't what you said I said. As a matter of fact, I readily acknowledge that they can easily be interpretations of one another. Hardly comparable to the 180 you did in between threads.

Anyways, the fact that you think this is about you looking bad in an argument makes it clear that the point sailed over your head. This is about consistency. You readily acknowledge something in a thread then jump to another one and argue the opposite. It's ridiculous and hypocrisy just rubs me the wrong way. I don't know why you think it being on different boards makes it any better for you though?

Well whatever, take solace in the fact that three years ago (Seriously, lol) I thought it was possible for a scene to be a reference to something else before indicating it makes no difference when I next point out your inconsistency.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He was beaten off panel. That doesn't take much imagination to how powerful he was.

Also getting your bones broke and skull being split open by a class 100 isn't a very good showing any way you slice it.

Where was he shown beaten? Do you happen to have a scan that I missed or something?

What makes you think Kuurth was just a Class 100? The way he beat up Colossus indicates above Herald level power pretty easily. We saw Colossus interact with middle level and elite strong men in the form of Thing, Namor, Rulk and he received nowhere near that type of damage.

Incidentally, this was also by the same writer who wrote the Serpent/Devil subplots. He considered the Serpent's power to far beyond what you'd expect even of Odin.

For the record, I was simply pointing out to JBL, the reson why a weaker person can beat up a stronger opponent. He then went off about his favorite cartoons and started acting like a Internet thug.

BTW I don't brag about how much I bench, I post video of it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I posted a thread that was maybe two weeks old (?) and you quote link specific posts from over 3 years ago that I don't even remember but I'm the one digging up stuff? Okay lol.

Also these are the only references I see to what you're talking about:



And it isn't what you said I said. As a matter of fact, I readily acknowledge that they can easily be interpretations of one another. Hardly comparable to the 180 you did in between threads.

Anyways, the fact that you think this is about you looking bad in an argument makes it clear that the point sailed over your head. This is about consistency. You readily acknowledge something in a thread then jump to another one and argue the opposite. It's ridiculous and hypocrisy just rubs me the wrong way. I don't know why you think it being on different boards makes it any better for you though?

Well whatever, take solace in the fact that three years ago (Seriously, lol) I thought it was possible for a scene to be a reference to something else before indicating it makes no difference when I next point out your inconsistency.
Does it matter how much time passed? A stupid argument is stupid. You arguing "hours" and "hour" was funny though. It was just on your posting history and easy to pick. I've much more embarrassing posts from you but bada has said to stop this, so I would stop here. You are the one who started this mud-slinging contest with a post which wasn't even directed to you. Bravo bro, bravo.

Also I just read AvX 2 again and JrJr never depicted Colossusnaut with a helmet before that fight. So its not an artistic error but consistent portrayal.

Whiny thorbags rub me the wrong way too.Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where was he shown beaten? Do you happen to have a scan that I missed or something?

What makes you think Kuurth was just a Class 100? The way he beat up Colossus indicates above Herald level power pretty easily. We saw Colossus interact with middle level and elite strong men in the form of Thing, Namor, Rulk and he received nowhere near that type of damage.

Incidentally, this was also by the same writer who wrote the Serpent/Devil subplots. He considered the Serpent's power to far beyond what you'd expect even of Odin.
He was beaten by wolverine IIRC.

The only legit class 100 he faced was Rulk and at one point Rulk calmly caught his punch and tossed him away like garbage.

Serpent=/=Cain Marko with his powers. Serpent was never beyond odin by portrayals.

is it still going on? colossusnaut clearly can be hurt he is not classic juggernaut he gets raped without any vaseline by superman.
its laughable and retarded at the same time to assume colossusnaut wont get owned by superman.

^ shush

Originally posted by maxivitopowe
^ shush

dude who are you? another meaningless sock , if you are not going to contribute then sit quietly in the corner like you did so far.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He considered the Serpent's power to far beyond what you'd expect even of Odin.
How can this be true? Didn't Odin crush the Serpent's army, his worthy, and the Serpent himself in the past?

Odin's sword, wielded by Thor, killed the Serpent. Odin didn't even need to be there.

Originally posted by wolverinos
dude who are you? another meaningless sock , if you are not going to contribute then sit quietly in the corner like you did so far. http://www.oxonianreview.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/irony.jpg

Is this normal colossonaut or Demon Colossonaut? Outside of a Soul Sword we don't really know what it takes to hurt Demon Colossus. Cyttorak also said he gave him more power then your typical Juggernaut.

Not saying he wins, just throwing it out there...

Originally posted by ODG
http://www.oxonianreview.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/irony.jpg

keep ironing my tie.

Originally posted by wolverinos
keep ironing my tie. Can't. Too busy dealing with the socks.

Originally posted by ODG
Can't. Too busy dealing with the socks.

ironing socks is kinda dumb...

Originally posted by wolverinos
ironing socks is kinda dumb... Nailed it.

Originally posted by ODG
Nailed it.
so you barefoot? ... ok

Do you own only one pair of socks?

Superman can probably weather demon Colossunaut long enough for him to revert.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Do you own only one pair of socks?

Superman can probably weather demon Colossunaut long enough for him to revert.

He only reverted because he wanted to right? What happens if peter allows himself to continue on in his higher form? I'm not saying that Rulk is on Superman's level, because he isn't and hasn't been for 3 or more years now, but he isn't a push over. Peter would have killed him if he fully allowed himself to remain in that monstrous state. I don't see how Superman would win this if he just sat there and banged out with him.

However if he fought him like he fought Doomsday Rex, and didn't allow himself to be hit he could stalemate I guess.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Do you own only one pair of socks?
.

i am a sock model on FTV.

Originally posted by Diesldude
No you dimwit, how can I debate with an idiot who couldn't understand that you being a Klutz was the reason for you to lose against your "weaker" coach.

Superman the comic book character is stronger than colossusnaut.
Superman the comic book character isn't a klutz like you are in real life. So he wouldn't lose to a weaker comic book character like you would lose to your "weaker" coach. You're just a loser, accept it, it's the first step to recovery. Return to the real world. Take a break off the comic book sites and learn just how foolish you look typing insults about a make believe man that can lift mountains and fly under his own power. Grow up and stay off moms computer. By the way, superman HAS lost to weaker characters. Superman is the hero, he is controlled by REAL people, thus REAL people will LET the hero win in the comics to sell books and put a smile on some idiots face ( hint hint ). My coach being a REAL persons, controls himself, there is no ink, paper and storyline to follow. Remember in that COMIC where superman got his azz beat boxing? Boxing has nothing to do with lifting, a boxer spends 90% of his time punching and trying to get faster yet some are of such a size that speed is hard to improve on. If this was a weightlifting contest, then supermans weight lifting feat is the PERFECT feat to use, but this is fighting h2h which involves punching and dodging. Wait! a 5 year old just told me to leave you alone.

And here I thought MR MORE was just a typo and meant to be "give me more".

That being said, why don't we get back on topic about this fight and how Superman slaps Colossus around.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He was beaten by wolverine IIRC.

The only legit class 100 he faced was Rulk and at one point Rulk calmly caught his punch and tossed him away like garbage.

Serpent=/=Cain Marko with his powers. Serpent was never beyond odin by portrayals.

It's very simple, do you have a scan showing Wolverine having defeated Kuurth? It's a yes or no question. It's pretty clear that you don't or you would have posted it by now but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Still, getting tired of you constantly making claims without being able to support them.

That's a different way from how I'd describe it but the underlying fact is that Rulk even when written by Loeb didn't so much as scratch Colossus. As a matter of fact, did anyone other then Kuurth do anywhere near that kind of damage to Colossus? If not, that should tell you something.

The bottom line is that you have absolutely no basis for assuming Kuurth is just a regular Class 100 when his only feat is absolutely devastating Colossus Juggernaut in a matter that even Trans level characters would be hard pressed to match. Oh yeah, I forget, he was also shown being cut by an Odin amped Wolverine.

Originally posted by zopzop
How can this be true? Didn't Odin crush the Serpent's army, his worthy, and the Serpent himself in the past?

Odin's sword, wielded by Thor, killed the Serpent. Odin didn't even need to be there.

I said expect.

The entire Marvel Hell Lord community was terrified of the Serpent IIRC and the Fear Crown (Forged from the small portion of the Serpent's Power) would have granted Mephisto enough might take over the seat of hell (And he'd continue growing). Mephisto even admitted it would be suicide to face the Serpent in open combat and that the Destroyer would get slagged against him.

Thor and Odin beating him like they did is pretty goddamn ridiculous.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I said expect.

The entire Marvel Hell Lord community was terrified of the Serpent IIRC and the Fear Crown (Forged from the small portion of the Serpent's Power) would have granted Mephisto enough might take over the seat of hell (And he'd continue growing). Mephisto even admitted it would be suicide to face the Serpent in open combat and that the Destroyer would get slagged against him.

Thor and Odin beating him like they did is pretty goddamn ridiculous.
How is it ridiculous? We saw ON PANEL Odin annihilating the Serpent's army, the Serpent's Worthy, and the Serpent himself.

Later on, we saw Thor destroy him using the Odin Sword. Game Over.

So either Odin is exponentially more powerful than every Hell Lord in the universe or Kieron Gillen was smoking dope when he wrote those JiM issues.

Originally posted by zopzop
How is it ridiculous? We saw ON PANEL Odin annihilating the Serpent's army, the Serpent's Worthy, and the Serpent himself.

Later on, we saw Thor destroy him using the Odin Sword. Game Over.

So either Odin is exponentially more powerful than every Hell Lord in the universe or Kieron Gillen was smoking dope when he wrote those JiM issues.

Ridiculous in that it's a crazy feat for both of them outside the norm of what you'd expect.

I'll go with the first option.

For some context, pretty much every demonic entity in Marvel continuity is considered a Hell Lord in some form of another and as Mephisto pointed out, none of them would allow someone to take the throne:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16601601_Journey_Into_Mystery_627_010.jpg

But with the Fear Crown, Mephsito would seize control of everything and anyone who disobeyed would be annihilated:
http://s4d3.turboimagehost.com/t/16601600_JIM-Zone-005.jpg

Love this showing with Colossus. He pretty much tanks everything Ben is throwing at him.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12218188/AVX-Zone_003.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12218190/AVX-Zone_004.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12218193/AVX-Zone_006.jpg.html

LOL Ben.

Philo, JBL and Diesl, stop now.

Rage and Abhi, shut up.



Get back to the topic, stop trolling and bashing.

Originally posted by JBL
Return to the real world. Take a break off the comic book sites and learn just how foolish you look typing insults about a make believe man that can lift mountains and fly under his own power. Grow up and stay off moms computer. By the way, superman HAS lost to weaker characters. Superman is the hero, he is controlled by REAL people, thus REAL people will LET the hero win in the comics to sell books and put a smile on some idiots face ( hint hint ). My coach being a REAL persons, controls himself, there is no ink, paper and storyline to follow. Remember in that COMIC where superman got his azz beat boxing? Boxing has nothing to do with lifting, a boxer spends 90% of his time punching and trying to get faster yet some are of such a size that speed is hard to improve on. If this was a weightlifting contest, then supermans weight lifting feat is the PERFECT feat to use, but this is fighting h2h which involves punching and dodging. Wait! a 5 year old just told me to leave you alone.

I think you are getting the picture. Your weaker coach is able to smack u around, not because he is stronger but because
He is a better fighter,
bettrr tech and
Has more experience. I hope that you finally see that you were arguing for superman the entire time, because superman is everything to collosusnaut that your coach is to you except superman is also stronger.
I'll explain the above in simpler terms.
Superman is faster
superman is a better fighter.
superman is more experienced.
And now wait for it, Superman is stronger.

Clean sweep for superman.

Originally posted by Diesldude
I think you are getting the picture. Your weaker coach is able to smack u around, not because he is stronger but because
He is a better fighter,
bettrr tech and
Has more experience. I hope that you finally see that you were arguing for superman the entire time, because superman is everything to collosusnaut that your coach is to you except superman is also stronger.
I'll explain the above in simpler terms.
Superman is faster
superman is a better fighter.
superman is more experienced.
And now wait for it, Superman is stronger.

Clean sweep for superman. How many times in comics has a faster, better fighter, more experienced and stronger character lost to a lesser character? When did superman become a better fighter or more experience than peter? The reason that my coach wins is because he can take far more punishment than i can. There is not a writer in the world of comics that determines the outcome of a comic by speed, better fighter, more experience or strength. But im done on this subject.

Originally posted by JBL
How many times in comics has a faster, better fighter, more experienced and stronger character lost to a lesser character? When did superman become a better fighter or more experience than peter? The reason that my coach wins is because he can take far more punishment than i can. There is not a writer in the world of comics that determines the outcome of a comic by speed, better fighter, more experience or strength. But im done on this subject.

Alright I understand u don't want to continue this, not trying to get the last word either but I agree hero's win in comics when they should have no business to even step in the "ring". But this is a message board right, so these physical and mental attributes have to count right?

Originally posted by Diesldude
Alright I understand u don't want to continue this, not trying to get the last word either but I agree hero's win in comics when they should have no business to even step in the "ring". But this is a message board right, so these physical and mental attributes have to count right? Yes they count.

Originally posted by zopzop
How is it ridiculous? We saw ON PANEL Odin annihilating the Serpent's army, the Serpent's Worthy, and the Serpent himself.

Later on, we saw Thor destroy him using the Odin Sword. Game Over.

So either Odin is exponentially more powerful than every Hell Lord in the universe or Kieron Gillen was smoking dope when he wrote those JiM issues. Odin used the Odinsword and special gear that made him immune to the Serpent's power to defeat him.

As did Thor.

Plot devices are plot devices. And this shouldn't be surprising considering one little old Fear Crown crafted out of a few human nightmares would have given any one of those Fear Lords dominion over all other Fear Lords in the universe. Y'know, the storyline that you clearly read since you quoted from it.

Stupidity runs rampant in lame slugfest threads. The make fool to Mk one should be knees in the nuts.