Marvel/dc rankings

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battlemaster161
Were would the following rank in marvel/dc and who is the strongest person they could beat.

Kratos
Death (darksiders)
War (darksiders)
DK
Predator
Riddick

BloodRain
HM, MM, LM, MM, HS, HS.

ScreamPaste
Most of these characters are already on our tier list.

Also, you'd put DK and Kratos below Dante, BR?

battlemaster161
Originally posted by BloodRain
HM, MM, LM, MM, HS, HS.

What does that mean

ScreamPaste
HM = High meta, MM = Mid Meta, LM = Low Meta, HH = High Herald, MH = Mid Herald, LH = Low Herald.

battlemaster161
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
HM = High meta, MM = Mid Meta, LM = Low Meta, HH = High Herald, MH = Mid Herald, LH = Low Herald.

Why is war a low meta

ScreamPaste
He can't hang with most mid metas.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=583892&pagenumber=30#post14459741

Here's our tier list.

battlemaster161
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He can't hang with most mid metas.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=583892&pagenumber=30#post14459741

Here's our tier list.

I saw that Ryu was mid and im pretty sure war could beat him

ScreamPaste
You're free to argue as much.

battlemaster161
no give me your honest opinion do you really think ryu could beat war

ScreamPaste
I didn't vote on either Ryu or War's placement, but in my personal opinion yes, Ryu would win due to being faster and more destructive.

battlemaster161
No hes not War has all the advantages in long range, strength, has fought stronger people, his horse is on fire and war can slow down time so how can ryu win ive played a lot of street fighter and ive seen the series there is no way he can win

battlemaster161
But if im wrong tell me but at least show proof that im wrong

BloodRain
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Also, you'd put DK and Kratos below Dante, BR?
Only to Dante2. They'd share a rank with Dante4.

Donkey Kong? He has HM DC (if taking that mini-moon punch at face value) and the rest of him just superhuman with no abilities.

Kratos has Town strength, Ma1 speed, Ma5 reactions (or 10 from the waterhorsething, lightning if you consider it) and 3 versions of hax; Soul pull, temp time slow and the Golden Fleece's ability to repel attacks.

D4's an eighth of his strength, Ma20 to lightning speed, relativistic (min0.7%c to max60%c) with QS and 12 versions of hax; Regen, teleport, TK, time slow, time stop, clone, hyper-cutting sword, RG defending&absorbing attacks to heal/armour up/redirect combined energy in a single hit, BFR and DT boosting speed further and amping strength to Kratos' level.


Soo yeah, I'd put D2 on a rank above them seeing as overall they're a slight below D4. DT4 is the closest one to the LH border, but not enough in him yet.


Originally posted by battlemaster161
Why is war a low meta
As said in one of these recent threads War has shown superhuman speed and building level strength. He has the potential to be much greater but that has never been shown to be close to the in-game vague lines. That makes him LM, even with his Chaos Mode.
Originally posted by battlemaster161
I saw that Ryu was mid and im pretty sure war could beat him
IIRC Ryu is somewhat weaker but somewhat faster. Main point as mentioned above is his destruction level. His strongest Hadoukens, the beam variety, are far more powerful than anything War has done.

battlemaster161
War defeated immortals, angels, demons, and the devil all while mortal ryu has never done anyting close to this

BloodRain
And what does defeating them mean?

battlemaster161
Well 1st off it shows hes a badass and also he did some of that with ease while ryu has trouble fighting just humans so ya what sounds harder fight humans or fighting the likes of heaven and hell who wiped out the humans

BloodRain
Depends. What sounds more impressive, nigh supersonic speed or just being faster than a human? Beams that cause high destruction or throwing buses?

Sacred 117
Originally posted by battlemaster161
War defeated immortals, angels, demons, and the devil all while mortal ryu has never done anyting close to this

As said before, who the character can defeat has no bearing on tier placement. Otherwise, high-tier Sonic characters would be at least Skyfather.

battlemaster161
Advantages- speed ryu, strength war, intelligence war, weapons war, better game war, defeated gods was, best special move war (chaos form), best partner war his horse ruin boost his power and is faster then ryu

battlemaster161
Not only that he has more endurance, better stamina, can fly, slow down time, travel to different realms, can summon demons, can use blade geyser, has a fire and rock shield that protect him and boost his strength. Also his block counter deflects any projectiles so ryu's beams will be useless.

BloodRain
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0.50. Show me War attacking with more force than that and then we'll be getting somewhere.

battlemaster161
Dosent he slows down time and all physical attacks and projectiles are useless cause block counter rejects it all no matter what not only that and could just keep summoning demons then when ryu is tired hell unload mercy on his ass

battlemaster161
Dosent matter he slows down time and all physical attacks and projectiles are useless cause block counter rejects it all no matter what not only that and could just keep summoning demons then when ryu is tired hell unload mercy on his ass

battlemaster161
Sorry it repeated there but also war has taken city level blast and that will be nothin especially in chaos form

ScreamPaste
This is a no limits fallacy.

And nothing you listed will stop Ryu from HADOUKEN!ing War for the win, lol.

battlemaster161
Counter blocks it then shoves tremor guanlet threw his chest ftw come back when ryu can take on gods and not get his ass kicked by people who cant even lift up a bus. He has special moves but war has dealt with war ryus stats dont even compare.

ScreamPaste
Originally posted by battlemaster161
Counter blocks it then shoves tremor guanlet threw his chest ftw come back when ryu can take on gods and not get his ass kicked by people who cant even lift up a bus. He has special moves but war has dealt with war ryus stats dont even compare.
Feats? Without feats it's just a title that doesn't mean anything. You seem to feel that because Ryu is human he loses by default. I can name many humans who would completely rape War.

BloodRain
War can only slow time when touching special orbs found in certain areas.

battlemaster161
Im not saying that but because war took city leveling blast and survived able to lift a bus jump 30 ft. In the air then throw 100 feet away, and also being a master stratagist and being smarter than ryu, and also fighting people that could solo SF universe lik that spider chick the stygian and the griever.

Yamcha
Ryu is being vastly underestimated by Team War here >_>.....plus better game is total opinion, I didn't really enjoy Darksiders but Street Fighter is one of my favorite game franchises.

Oh an those characters couldn't solo SF, check out Gill and Ingrid.

battlemaster161
Mk is one of my fav. Games but thats besides the point war has almost all the advantages here. With ruin hell have speed advantage, intelligence, stamina, strength, endurance, experience, weapons, tatics, will power, courage, armor, special skills and even a badass chaos form that boost almost all his advantages over ryu. Ryu has speed (nly if war dosent have ruin) and destuction so what ive never seen ryu level a city and war has took that punishment and god dang this is a long post.

Yamcha
If they're really gonna face each other Ruin probably won't be there since it'll be 1 vs 1 and this isn't nearly as one sided as you think, Ryu wouldn't just be tossed aside like a nobody and another form? Ryu also has an alternate form that isn't exactly a push over.
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battlemaster161
I never said he was a pushover but still war has almost all the advantages here ryu also wont have the killer instinct until his 2nd form so who knows how long that would take that just gives war that much more of an avantage.

ScreamPaste
You continue to claim War has advantages, but not prove that he does.

battlemaster161
Experience, Intelligence, tatics- over 1000's years of age and has fougth heaven and hell several times and when he lost his powers he had to improvise. Strength, endurance, speed- explained these several times.

ScreamPaste
Those aren't feats, those are claims. You claim War has all these advantages, but that has not been proven, and so cannot be taken as fact.

battlemaster161
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkziYtRx70w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkubWFkEr4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8aqiQVhEDM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofz1AQS2FTw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_561kcXaZ4
here are some boss fights in the game

ares834
Originally posted by Yamcha
If they're really gonna face each other Ruin probably won't be there since it'll be 1 vs 1 and this isn't nearly as one sided as you think, Ryu wouldn't just be tossed aside like a nobody and another form? Ryu also has an alternate form that isn't exactly a push over.


TBF, that version of Ryu is vastly more powerful than any other.

Yamcha
Originally posted by ares834
TBF, that version of Ryu is vastly more powerful than any other.
http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y508/YamchaKMC/image_zpse8324fc9.jpg
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the fair is a place where people go to ride rides and eat cotton candy, it has no place here ;~;.

NemeBro
Originally posted by battlemaster161
has fought stronger people

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NemeBro
Originally posted by BloodRain
Only to Dante2. They'd share a rank with Dante4.

Donkey Kong? He has HM DC (if taking that mini-moon punch at face value) and the rest of him just superhuman with no abilities.

Kratos has Town strength, Ma1 speed, Ma5 reactions (or 10 from the waterhorsething, lightning if you consider it) and 3 versions of hax; Soul pull, temp time slow and the Golden Fleece's ability to repel attacks.

D4's an eighth of his strength, Ma20 to lightning speed, relativistic (min0.7%c to max60%c) with QS and 12 versions of hax; Regen, teleport, TK, time slow, time stop, clone, hyper-cutting sword, RG defending&absorbing attacks to heal/armour up/redirect combined energy in a single hit, BFR and DT boosting speed further and amping strength to Kratos' level.

Soo yeah, I'd put D2 on a rank above them seeing as overall they're a slight below D4. DT4 is the closest one to the LH border, but not enough in him yet.

http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/share/view/63551608

CosmicComet
Originally posted by NemeBro
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/share/view/63551608

Huh. Interesting.

They did a bit of updating of his profile too.

Some things aren't fully correct but I'm going to start a revamped respect thread soon, going to go in chronological order.

NemeBro
Shut up.

CosmicComet
You suck my pen0r first.

BloodRain
Wasn't his wiki page edited by Stealth?
Originally posted by NemeBro
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/share/view/63551608
Point?

Demonic Phoenix
Originally posted by NemeBro
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/share/view/63551608

To be fair, it is BR's opinion that Dante2 > Kratos, and he has his right to it.

Of course, I still maintain that BR's been smoking something all this time. He doesn't even list half of Kratos' hax. sneer

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Huh. Interesting.

They did a bit of updating of his profile too.

Some things aren't fully correct but I'm going to start a revamped respect thread soon, going to go in chronological order.

You need help with it? Make sure you mention the durability of his blades which is > Titans. estahuh
Need to pin down his regen abilities. mmm

NemeBro
Originally posted by BloodRain

Point? You're not worth the effort of an actual argument.

BloodRain
Originally posted by NemeBro
You're not worth the effort of an actual argument.
Hey if you want to vaguely ride some random guys dick I wont stop your rodeo.

Though can bet that post was made only with a Ma20 MCity-Block Dante4 in mind. So before the relativistic, sub-town and City level feats or how D4 is in-verse 2 to 3 tiers below D2.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
To be fair, it is BR's opinion that Dante2 > Kratos, and he has his right to it.

Of course, I still maintain that BR's been smoking something all this time. He doesn't even list half of Kratos' hax. sneer Aw ermmtouched

What else did I miss? O.o I didnt mention element manip for both, can't think of other powers and abilities Kratos has :c

Demonic Phoenix
Originally posted by BloodRain
Aw ermmtouched

What else did I miss? O.o I didnt mention element manip for both, can't think of other powers and abilities Kratos has :c

This is the only time I stick up for a Dante wanker. estahuh

Light Manip, petrification, BoO, amps, etc.

NemeBro
Originally posted by BloodRain
Hey if you want to vaguely ride some random guys dick I wont stop your rodeo.

You seem upset.



Why would you do that?



Well, considering ODB actually lists his QS speed as massively hypersonic to sub-relativistic...



Dante has never busted a city nor does he have feats of killing beings with conclusive city+ durability.

BloodRain
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
This is the only time I stick up for a Dante wanker. estahuh

Light Manip, petrification, BoO, amps, etc.
Is this what they call love? :3

Left out the light, gauntlets and BoO/Sparda for both. Right, the stoning. Forgot about it since finding out its a shell, not transmutation.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You seem upset.

Why would you do that? Well, considering ODB actually lists his QS speed as massively hypersonic to sub-relativistic...

Dante has never busted a city nor does he have feats of killing beings with conclusive city+ durability.
You rejected my feels whimper

'cause the DMC island blast has only been spoken about on one blog there and not one actually about said feat. And besides that QS speed being added after the comment, it is the newest and least known feat as its only had a whisper broadcast here. Stealth checking it and editing means its likely not even known about there.

Powerscaling from the oomph of three guys D2 far surpasses, seeing as they all use the same energy for their feats. Low City, though.

Demonic Phoenix
Originally posted by BloodRain
Is this what they call love? :3

Left out the light, gauntlets and BoO/Sparda for both. Right, the stoning. Forgot about it since finding out its a shell, not transmutation.



Yes, e-love of the forbidden kind.

Dante has Light Manip? BoO > Sparda. estahuh
Considering that shattering is possible, it isn't a shell.

BloodRain
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yes, e-love of the forbidden kind.

Dante has Light Manip? BoO > Sparda. estahuh
Considering that shattering is possible, it isn't a shell. I could swoon. Yeah from Beowulf. Light augmentation, lightsplosions and lighthadoukens. Sparda never drained Dante into a useless husk pfft

Just something that came in in a thread, think it was a novel mention though.

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