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5 on 5
hulk
iron man
thor
captain america
Hawk eye
Vs
Ash (pokemon)
Ed (full metal alchemist)
Ichigo
Naruto
Goku

So avengers vs. Goku and his cheerleaders.

Sounds about right

Holy balls! Anime Avengers needs to happen NOW!

Anyways, my guess is Goku could solo this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpscencYGCk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcIqfnftwIo
here is some other videos Although these are different from the 1st one so these are just for fun they dont matter in this thread.
Btw this isnt movie Avengers that are fighting

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Holy balls! Anime Avengers needs to happen NOW!

Anyways, my guess is Goku could solo this.

Nah. Thor would beat him. Thor is a horrible match up for Saiyans as Mjolnir allows Thor to absorb or deflect anything Goku can throw at him. Then, Thor would demolish Goku in close combat.

Originally posted by ares834
Nah. Thor would beat him. Thor is a horrible match up for Saiyans as Mjolnir allows Thor to absorb or deflect anything Goku can throw at him. Then, Thor would demolish Goku in close combat.

Are comics to be taken into consideration? I was under a different impression based on the link in the OP.

Todays comics

I don't know anything about them. Are there certain conditions to this engagement that we may need to know about?

Thor soloes.

Ash gets his choice of 6 lengendary pokemon. Goku is at ssjg

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Ash gets his choice of 6 lengendary pokemon. Goku is at ssjg

HOLY F**K!!! Ash soloes!


Originally posted by COG Veteran
Thor soloes.

(See above statement to know how wrong you are.)

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Thor soloes.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Thor soloes.

Wrong again.


Originally posted by battlemaster161
Ash gets his choice of 6 lengendary pokemon. Goku is at ssjg

There are at the very least THREE Abstract legendaries, and SSJG Goku can absorb ki.

Almost forget no arceus cause it destroys and makes worlds

That still leaves Dialga and Palkia. Also, Thor can bust planets as well.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Wrong again..

Citation needed.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Citation needed.

That's A LOT to look for, but I'm on it.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
That's A LOT to look for, but I'm on it.

Break a leg then.

Arceus beat palkia, and dialga

Originally posted by Sacred 117
HOLY F**K!!! Ash soloes!

Nah. Ash is woefully incompetent. Plus the anime versions of, say, Arceus and other legendaries aren't really that great.

And, if we are using the game version, Arceus, Dialgia, etc are suppressing their power.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Citation needed.

Arceus
Dialga
Palkia
Mewtwo
Mew
Rayquaza
Deoxys
Darkrai
Celebi
Groudon
Kyogre
Giratina
Lugia
Ho-oh
Reshiram
Zekrom
Regigigas

Ash can use any six of those (with the sudden exception of Arceus).

Goku (continuity)


I'll find videos for all of these whenever I can.

Originally posted by ares834
Nah. Ash is woefully incompetent. Plus the anime versions of, say, Arceus and other legendaries aren't really that great.

And, if we are using the game version, Arceus, Dialgia, etc are suppressing their power.

Fine. God Goku soloes.

Better?

Nah, Thor would beat him...

SSGod Goku is powerful, but, like I said earlier, Thor's powers are virtually a perfect counter for Saiyans. He can absorb/reflect any energy attack Goku sends at him with Mjolnir.

And, Thor is far greater when it comes to physical aspects such as strength and durability (against physical attacks).

Barring universal Pokey Mans Thor will solo this effortlessly, especially current Thor, God of Thunder run, anyone? Goku can break a planet, woo, good for him. Thor shatters planets and moons with the indirect force from his blows and can damage someone who survived a blast from King Thor that sent him light years away in mere moments. haermm

The fact Mjolnir completely rapes Goku's energy projection, his most powerful tool, isn't needed but definitely seals the deal.

Originally posted by ares834


Nah, Thor would beat him...

SSGod Goku is powerful, but, like I said earlier, Thor's powers are virtually a perfect counter for Saiyans. He can absorb/reflect any energy attack Goku sends at him with Mjolnir.

And, Thor is far greater when it comes to physical aspects such as strength and durability (against physical attacks).

SSJG can absorb the redirected ki, so offensively, that helps Thor none.

Also, he's likely fighting the rest of the team at this point.

No one on the team can bother Thor, though. He'd hit Goku with his hammer once and everyone on team Anime would die. 131

Lol. knew I was right about Thor. And this coming from a guy whos never read a Marvel comic.

Mewtwo is physic and can mind blast thor and hulk and thor is not immune to physic.

What kind of TP feats does Mewtwo have? As it take a telepath of Xavier's capabilities to put down Thor.

mewtwo Is telepathic too and as you just said hes not immune and mewtwo is one of the strongest physic pokemon.

Thor and Hulk on the same team? Iron Man backing them up? Avengers win hard. They'd almost win as fast as solo DOOM but they aren't that great.

Hulk is unconscious form the mind blast thor is injured from it iron man is useless against palkia and dialga. Captain america and hawk eye just died from Naruto and Ichigo ya their so gonna win.

Even Xavier have struggled in getting Hulk under control. The same xavier that have combined millions of minds together on the Skrull homeworld and have felt a connection with every being on earth. Can Mewtwo claim the same?

He tried to get Hulk under control mewtwo is gonna just knock him out cause its hard to calm him down but not as hard as to brain blast him.
Also the avengers will sub come to numbers with Cap and hawke being liabilities and the numbers of the anime team will be to much for them to handle.
Another thing like thor Goku can absorb and redirect ki in is SSJG form

Care to show where Mewtwo has using his telepathy to knock someone like the Hulk out?

I'm well aware of that Goku can absorb Ki, I'm just wondering how that will help against Thor that doesn't to my knowledge atleast utilize ki blasts.

Thor knocks it back at goku and goku just absorbs it. And if mewtwo cant knock out hulk he will just repeatedly mind blast him to the point where hulk Will be distracted from the fight leaving him wide open

Read this
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Mewtwo

I honestly don't see avengers coming out on top they don't have a wide variety in powers and if cap dies they wont have a game plan.

MewTwo's best TP feat is a mass memory wipe, lol. If you use movie MewTwo you don't get the game versions of Arceus and co, either.

Thor soloes.

Thor cant solo cause hell get mind blasted and when hes distracted goku can attack without thor knowing and landing a direct attack thor gets beats because he sucks at strategy and for some reason always seems to throw his best weapon leaving him wide open.

Thor solos once the telepath takes magical hammer to the face.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Thor cant solo cause hell get mind blasted and when hes distracted goku can attack without thor knowing and landing a direct attack thor gets beats because he sucks at strategy and for some reason always seems to throw his best weapon leaving him wide open. The only one MewTwo has mentally dominated is Nurse Joy, he did mindwipe many pokemon and humans at once, including an Alakazam, but that does not allow him to replicate this on Thor. Thor hits Goku once, all of team Anime dies.

There is more than one telepathic pokemon almost all the legendariy are telepathic so thats 6 mind blast at once thor is screwed

They won't gang mind rape Thor if he fight smart and gives them a lightning blast to the face.

their all over light speed he wont catch them and if he tries that leaves him wide open

Originally posted by battlemaster161
There is more than one telepathic pokemon almost all the legendariy are telepathic so thats 6 mind blast at once thor is screwed Except that in the movies, from which comes the MewTwo you're using, none of them have any notable telepathic attacks other than MewTwo, and Thor's mind is a tough nut to crack. Simply put they have no way to stop him from pasting their entire team in a single attack.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
their all over light speed he wont catch them and if he tries that leaves him wide open I just about spat my drink. haermm No. No they are not. Thor, however, is.

naruto kills hawk, ichigo kills cap, palkia and dialga kill iron man, Hulk is Gang mind raped, thor throws his hammer like an idiot misses, leaves him open everybody attacks at once thor dies end of story.

You assume Thor misses his hammer throw? Something he's been able to do for hundred of years?

its not that fast hell probably throw it at the pokemon but there all faster than light so he misses and dies end of story.

Hammer flies back to Thor on his command. Right thru the bodies of Pokemon.

hell be dead before that because its slow and still has to stop then re accelerate

It's being throw by an asguardian god.

Citation needed where his hammer is slow.

Watch the movie its slow as **** cant show a comic version cause its just a picture not only that if it is fast then thats bad cause he will miss and if the hammer is going fast that makes it harder to stop and come back so if its fast he cant react the hammer that fast.

So anime wins because of power, strategy, and not being idiots.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
You assume Thor misses his hammer throw? Something he's been able to do for hundred of years?


Originally posted by battlemaster161
naruto kills hawk, ichigo kills cap, palkia and dialga kill iron man, Hulk is Gang mind raped, thor throws his hammer like an idiot misses, leaves him open everybody attacks at once thor dies end of story. Hawkeye is here for moral support, nothing more, Ichigo can't get past Cap's shield in time to kill him before Thor, Iron Man, or Hulk kicks his ass. Hulk is heavily resistant to TP, so lol, and Thor missing, what? haermm Even if he did miss, how does that leave him open?
Originally posted by battlemaster161
its not that fast hell probably throw it at the pokemon but there all faster than light so he misses and dies end of story. Not one of them is faster than light, unlike Thor, who actually IS faster than light.

It doesn't matter who he throws it at, they die, but he's more likely to just hit someone with it.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Watch the movie its slow as **** cant show a comic version cause its just a picture not only that if it is fast then thats bad cause he will miss and if the hammer is going fast that makes it harder to stop and come back so if its fast he cant react the hammer that fast.
Lol. The hammer is ****ing magic and Thor is ****ing strong. What do you mean Thor can't react? He's faster than light, he's blitzed Quicksilver, tagged surfer, fought Gorr at FTL speeds, etc.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
He's faster than light, he's blitzed Quicksilver, tagged surfer, fought Gorr at FTL speeds, etc.
You have no idea how much sh1t you would get on comicvine for these statements, lol.

Ichigo is superfast and will just get behind and slice his ass all the legendary pokemon are FTL hulk is no match for multiple telepaths, thor is open cause he throws the main source of all his power. His hammer cant react that fast.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You have no idea how much sh1t you would get on comicvine for these statements, lol.
I do, but I don't particularly care. The counter argument always seems to be 'but Wolverine can blitz Thor' to which I reply

1. PIS/lowballing.
2. Thor explicitly holds back on Earth.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Ichigo is superfast and will just get behind and slice his ass all the legendary pokemon are FTL hulk is no match for multiple telepaths, thor is open cause he throws the main source of all his power. His hammer cant react that fast. Ichigo is not that fast, and can't hurt Thor, pokemon are not FTL, you're ignoring Thor's speed and accuracy.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I do, but I don't particularly care. The counter argument always seems to be 'but Wolverine can blitz Thor' to which I reply

1. PIS/lowballing.
2. Thor explicitly holds back on Earth.
By the way this is todays comics
Arceus
Dialga
Palkia
Mewtwo
Mew
Rayquaza
These pokemon are all faster than light and their not the only ones.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
By the way this is todays comics
Arceus
Dialga
Palkia
Mewtwo
Mew
Rayquaza
These pokemon are all faster than light and their not the only ones.
Yes, current Thor. The one who fought Gorr.

No, they are not. Not one of them has ever displayed Faster than Light speed, and the movie versions of all but MewTwo are weaker than the game versions so congratulations on using the anime pokemon who can't do anything to Thor.

Heres proof
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Dialga
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Palkia
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Mewtwo
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Giratina

and i woundnt talk about speed when thor has been tagged by hulk, spiderman, and wolverine

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Heres proof
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Dialga
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Palkia
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Mewtwo
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Giratina
That's not proof, that's a series of OBD profiles, which are frequently inaccurate and are ostensibly including the video game abilities of the pokemon. Those are not the anime pokemon.

No faster than light feats = not faster than light.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15848247_HarleyDavidsonAvengers_1_TheGroup_014.jpghttp://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/15848248_HarleyDavidsonAvengers_1_TheGroup_015.jpg

"Even distracted, still a deadly shot."

http://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15848249_Avengers_-_The_Enemy_Within_001-016.jpghttp://s3d3.turboimagehost.com/t/15848250_Avengers_-_The_Enemy_Within_001-017.jpg

More funny then a feat but whatever.



Exactly, and it was brought to my attention that Star matter in that form is incredibly dense. Unknown, the stuff in the bandages was all they had managed to sneak out from Gorr.

Thor's a dead shot with his hammer when he isn't even looking.

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16026618_Thor_-_God_of_Thunder_009-007.jpg

Gorr is blasted light years away in 'moments', and the Thors follow him at massively FTL speeds. Gorr percieves them and...

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16026619_Thor_-_God_of_Thunder_009-008.jpg

Hurls chunks of moon to intercept them, which they react to.

To reiterate, Thor, while moving FTL was targetted by and reacted to a FTL asteroid. This is current Thor.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Watch the movie its slow as **** cant show a comic version cause its just a picture not only that if it is fast then thats bad cause he will miss and if the hammer is going fast that makes it harder to stop and come back so if its fast he cant react the hammer that fast.

You should really enlighten yourself with some comics. You'll then realize what a rape for team comic this is for.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
So anime wins because of power, strategy, and not being idiots.

Anime loses due to not having the durability, speed, strength and energy projection as much on their side.

Cause thor is so fast that hulk can tag him and wolverine has also but hes so faster than light

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

1. PIS/lowballing.
2. Thor explicitly holds back on Earth.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Heres proof
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Dialga
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Palkia
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Mewtwo
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Giratina



That quote is about the point I stopped reading Dialga's entry, and why I don't think I'll bother with the rest. what is this i don't even

Anyway, Anime Dialga has good enough time manipulation to potentially wreck everybody and could possibly put Thor in an infinite time loop. Game Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina are all potential universe busters given the plot of the Generation 4 games is to stop them them from destroying the galaxy and making a new world for Cyrus. (On a side note, I dislike when games use the words "world," "galaxy" and "universe" like they're interchangeable.)

Regardless of which you use, though, none of the Creation Trio have the speed needed to pull this off. Nor do any of the other legendaries, for that matter.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Cause thor is so fast that hulk can tag him and wolverine has also but hes so faster than light

Agreed. Thor flies at insane speeds but he doesn't fight at said speeds.


Still, he wins this thread.

thor Loses cause of horrible strategy and Gets his but kicked by street leverlers

The fight is on Earth

Thor doesn't need strategy to solo, lol.

Hes been beaten by street levelers so what makes you think he solos apparently you are a die hard thor fan boy.

rolleyes2

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Cause thor is so fast that hulk can tag him and wolverine has also but hes so faster than light .......I don't think I've ever wanted to cut the eyes right out of my skull any more so than I do at this very moment.

Originally posted by Yamcha
.......I don't think I've ever wanted to cut the eyes right out of my skull any more so than I do at this very moment.
Its true though if he is FTL then why do slowpokes seem to always catch him and if he is so durable why has he been knock out by street levelers.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Its true though if he is FTL then why do slowpokes seem to always catch him and if he is so durable why has he been knock out by street levelers.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste Originally posted by ScreamPaste
1. PIS/lowballing.
2. Thor explicitly holds back on Earth.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Its true though if he is FTL then why do slowpokes seem to always catch him and if he is so durable why has he been knock out by street levelers.
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...........................Whew okay, breathe Yamcha just breathe....in through your nose out through your mouth...


Okay...see those OBD profiles you enjoy using? Hey I do too they're awesome...did you happen to look at Thor's? I'll help you out here, http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Thor oh and the Mjolnir away for 60 seconds isn't the case anymore hasn't been for a long time actually.

See...when you've been in the comic game as long as the God of Thunder...you expierence things called low showings..even Superman has them...it comes from having a series that doesn't end and keeps going..so that leaves more and more stories, some will have high feats and some will have low but you don't focus on the low you should focus on the AVERAGE to find out the base of the character...but now see remember those High end feats I mentioned? Those are for knowing just how far your hero can push it when things seem bleak and Thor has one that involves something called a World Engine, it's a strength feat..and it absolutely shits all over the highest strength feats the Anime team has to offer... There's also one involving lifting something called "The Midgard Serpent"..but hey you said only current characters right? That's cool too, cause Thor God Of Thunder (A truly great read I suggest you pick it up) he has some feats there that...again trump anything the other team has to offer... Gorr his opponent had a thing for killing Gods, even one that wrestled black holes I believe for fun...and hell Thor even stops a God Bomb...

But you know what, no, you're totally right, let's focus on those low end feats, lets just throw Thor under the bus, cause even though one full force mjolnir swing would bust open each of the anime contenders skulls wide open like a pumpkin and the fact that Thor could even tank hits like nothing, yeah he loses you're right buddy, you're so very right .

Originally posted by Yamcha
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http://s1278.photobucket.com/albums/y508/YamchaKMC/e2561296-9d09-4f48-a750-bae386d34cc9_zpsc3a534fb.jpg

...........................Whew okay, breathe Yamcha just breathe....in through your nose out through your mouth...


Okay...see those OBD profiles you enjoy using? Hey I do too they're awesome...did you happen to look at Thor's? I'll help you out here, http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Character+Profile+-+Thor oh and the Mjolnir away for 60 seconds isn't the case anymore hasn't been for a long time actually.

See...when you've been in the comic game as long as the God of Thunder...you expierence things called low showings..even Superman has them...it comes from having a series that doesn't end and keeps going..so that leaves more and more stories, some will have high feats and some will have low but you don't focus on the low you should focus on the AVERAGE to find out the base of the character...but now see remember those High end feats I mentioned? Those are for knowing just how far your hero can push it when things seem bleak and Thor has one that involves something called a World Engine, it's a strength feat..and it absolutely shits all over the highest strength feats the Anime team has to offer... There's also one involving lifting something called "The Midgard Serpent"..but hey you said only current characters right? That's cool too, cause Thor God Of Thunder (A truly great read I suggest you pick it up) he has some feats there that...again trump anything the other team has to offer... Gorr his opponent had a thing for killing Gods, even one that wrestled black holes I believe for fun...and hell Thor even stops a God Bomb...

But you know what, no, you're totally right, let's focus on those low end feats, lets just throw Thor under the bus, cause even though one Mjolnir swing would bust open each of the anime contenders skulls wide open like a watermelon and the fact that Thor could even tank hits like nothing, yeah he loses you're right buddy, you're so very right .

Hey, if he wants to focus on low feats, let's focus on high feats, like soaking abuse from Celestials.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorDurability20-300.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Avengers149_17b.jpg

^Thor talking about how he goes out of his way not to embarrass his peers or murder their enemies.

Scans courtesy of the Revamped Thor Respect Thread

Haha seriously xD. It always bothered me how people assumed Mjolnir was just some hammer that can be thrown and that's it when it's capable of so much more than that .
http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y508/YamchaKMC/image_zpsb6c31851.jpg

Originally posted by battlemaster161
Thor cant solo cause hell get mind blasted. This isn't an instant win against Thor in the least.

http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y508/YamchaKMC/image_zpsa86289f4.jpg
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http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y508/YamchaKMC/image_zpsaa759c45.jpg

Originally posted by Yamcha
Haha seriously xD. It always bothered me how people assumed Mjolnir was just some hammer that can be thrown and that's it when it's capable of so much more than that .
http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y508/YamchaKMC/image_zpsb6c31851.jpg Yeah, like absorbing an explosion across all of space and time that would kill every god ever.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor-GodofThunder011-006.jpg

Im not throwing him under the bus im giving reasons on how he cant solo.

But he can solo. Goku's reliant on Ki, without it he's a nonfactor.

Mjolnir > Ki.

Even with it, Thor can just hit him with his hammer.

Gokus to fast it wont hit him then hell end up behind him and take him out.

Prove that, please. Thor regularly fights people who are above light speed, and you think someone without relativistic speed is 'too fast'?

That was also in the 1st season running on snake way it was after king kais training and he learned to teleport in the cell saga.

Curious, Battlemaster. The link in the OP was based on the movie. If, hypothetically, Wolverine and Spider-Man had rightful places in the movie, who do you think in turn would join the Anivengers? Aang and, idk, someone from AoT? Just taking shots here. Help me with this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNB6CA1AGik
teleportation

Simply put, they job when Thor fights them.

Thor is fast, but not Goku fast.

Thor isn't even Quicksilver fast--who effortlessly dodged his lightning (thor is not faster than his own lightning), taunted Thor's speed and stating he's been dodging lightning since he was a teenager, and then Thor only even got him by slamming mjolnir into the ground hard enough to trip him up from a shockwave.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yeah, like absorbing an explosion across all of space and time that would kill every god ever.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor-GodofThunder011-006.jpg

Epicness! This is modern Thor?

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Epicness! This is modern Thor? Yes, it is. God of Thunder. It's only 11 or 12 issues so far, I HIGHLY suggest you read it. It's one of the best comics I've read. Ever.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Curious, Battlemaster. The link in the OP was based on the movie. If, hypothetically, Wolverine and Spider-Man had rightful places in the movie, who do you think in turn would join the Anivengers? Aang and, idk, someone from AoT? Just taking shots here. Help me with this.
Probably Zoro for Wolverine he also has a sword that kills regenerators

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Yes, it is. God of Thunder. It's only 11 or 12 issues so far, I HIGHLY suggest you read it. It's one of the best comics I've read. Ever.

I want to now. Haha. It'll be a first for me to be honest.


Originally posted by battlemaster161
Probably Zoro for Wolverine he also has a sword that kills regenerators

Zoro... from?

One Piece.

Though I wouldn't say he has a sword that kills regenerators. It's more like he can focus his will to prevent intangible beings from going intangible. Except they're not really intangible. Logias are complicated.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
That was also in the 1st season running on snake way it was after king kais training and he learned to teleport in the cell saga.
K, so he can run fast, and teleport. This is not quantifiable speed above what Thor can deal with. I know all about the Instant Transmission and I've watched the entire DBZ series. I am familiar with Goku.

This isn't what I meant by 'please prove Goku is too fast for Thor'. What feat gives you this idea? Goku is not faster than light, no one in DBZ approaches c, in fact, despite a great many of them being massively hypersonic+. This isn't about selling Goku short, he has no feat which makes him relevant in a thread against Thor, though.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
I want to now. Haha. It'll be a first for me to be honest.




Zoro... from? Read 1-11 at the least. That arc was so manly.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Prove that, please. Thor regularly fights people who are above light speed, and you think someone without relativistic speed is 'too fast'?

When has he fought anyone actively using light speed against him?

He's fought Surfer I guess, but then Surfer, like Superman, hardly ever uses his speed when he fights.

In recent history? Gorr, Surfer, the Demogorge, and arguably Valkyrie, but /meh. The case with Gorr is pretty much inarguable since we have multiple instances within that fight of people being percieved and intercepted/attacked while moving at FTL.

Ok. I'm gonna go back just to say...


Originally posted by COG Veteran
You should really enlighten yourself with some comics. You'll then realize what a rape for team comic this is for.



Anime loses due to not having the durability, speed, strength and energy projection as much on their side.

Yeah, uh... you're not one to talk. You JUST got into comics, so you're not one to tell anyone to do their research. Especially since you have no working knowledge of the respective Animeverse opposition. haermm

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Ok. I'm gonna go back just to say...




Yeah, uh... you're not one to talk. You JUST got into comics, so you're not one to tell anyone to do their research. Especially since you have no working knowledge of the respective Animeverse opposition. haermm
Not Told
Told

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
In recent history? Gorr, Surfer, the Demogorge, and arguably Valkyrie, but /meh. The case with Gorr is pretty much inarguable since we have multiple instances within that fight of people being percieved and intercepted/attacked while moving at FTL.

Gorr and Demogorge have never to my knowledge actually fought at light speed though.

Yes, Thor has good reflexes and can perceive people moving at FTL speeds but he has never shown the aptitude to keep up with someone who can fight at those speed.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Ok. I'm gonna go back just to say...




Yeah, uh... you're not one to talk. You JUST got into comics, so you're not one to tell anyone to do their research. Especially since you have no working knowledge of the respective Animeverse opposition. haermm

Stop being butthurt about team anime getting railed. And judging by all the support Thor has, I'm not in the wrong.

So assuming goku and thor could at least last five minutes, who wins with the leftovers?

Hulk.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Stop being butthurt about team anime getting railed. And judging by all the support Thor has, I'm not in the wrong.

You're not right though. You have no point to make. You actually suggested Thor use his lighting against Dialga and Arceus, BOTH of which are resistant to lightning. haermm

Besides, I was at work all day while this went on in my absence. I'm so far behind I don't even care anymore. Lol.

Originally posted by ares834
Gorr and Demogorge have never to my knowledge actually fought at light speed though.

Yes, Thor has good reflexes and can perceive people moving at FTL speeds but he has never shown the aptitude to keep up with someone who can fight at those speed.
One sec...Originally posted by ScreamPaste
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16026618_Thor_-_God_of_Thunder_009-007.jpg

Gorr is blasted light years away in 'moments', and the Thors follow him at massively FTL speeds. Gorr percieves them and...

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/16026619_Thor_-_God_of_Thunder_009-008.jpg

Hurls chunks of moon to intercept them, which they react to.

To reiterate, Thor, while moving FTL was targetted by and reacted to a FTL asteroid. This is current Thor.

This happens again later on, except instead of a chunk of moon Gorr full body tackles Current Thor as he's travelling back to the world where they'd begun fighting initially, and they continue to fight at those speeds which leads them to the planet and moon Thor was destroying indirectly.

Originally posted by ares834
Hulk. Here we are in agreement, though I'd also say Iron Man. uhuh

Originally posted by Sacred 117
You're not right though. You have no point to make. You actually suggested Thor use his lighting against Dialga and Arceus, BOTH of which are resistant to lightning. haermm

Besides, I was at work all day while this went on in my absence. I'm so far behind I don't even care anymore. Lol.

We don't know that they're resistant to magical lightning from magical hammers

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
One sec...

This happens again later on, except instead of a chunk of moon Gorr full body tackles Current Thor as he's travelling back to the world where they'd begun fighting initially, and they continue to fight at those speeds which leads them to the planet and moon Thor was destroying indirectly.

That doesn't mean they are fighting at FTL speeds IE punching each other thousands of times in a second. It just shows them fighting while moving at such speeds and being able to perceive such attacks. Something I have never argued against.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
We don't know that they're resistant to magical lightning from magical hammers

Dialga is a dragon-type, and Arceus has 'plates' representing every type. With all of said plates, he is resistant (or immune; can't remember) to the respective type. Electricity is among them.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Dialga is a dragon-type, and Arceus has 'plates' representing every type. With all of said plates, he is resistant (or immune; can't remember) to the respective type. Electricity is among them.

Thor has far more than just lightning. Plus, Arceus was knocked out by a meteor. Thor would waste him.

Originally posted by ares834
That doesn't mean they are fighting at FTL speeds IE punching each other thousands of times in a second. It just shows them fighting while moving at such speeds and being able to perceive such attacks. Something I have never argued against. Even that would be plenty enough to put Thor well above Goku, but Thor actively reacted to a chunk of moon moving to intercept him as he'd moved MFTL, and then Gorr intercepted him personally when he did it again, this says a lot about Gorr's combat speed and by extension Thor's own. If you can shoot a bullet out of the air, you're above bullet timing, imho, that's essentially what happened with the moon chunk, except the bullet could react to the other bul- You know what, this analogy is getting weird.

tl;dr, I think it's enough.

Oh, I have no doubt that Thor would be able to waste Goku in a fight.

Originally posted by ares834
Thor has far more than just lightning. Plus, Arceus was knocked out by a meteor. Thor would waste him. Anime* Arceus, yeah. Thor would waste him effortlessly. I think MewTwo is the only pokemon who has ever benefitted from the anime in terms of power.

Originally posted by ares834
Thor has far more than just lightning. Plus, Arceus was knocked out by a meteor. Thor would waste him.

I'm simply referring to one of Vet's previous uneducated arguments.

I never actually saw the movie, but I heard most of his low showings were essential PIS.

Anime Arceus would be wasted by Mystery Dungeon Rayquaza, honestly.

Heck, a couple hundred electric pokemon managed to harm him and keep still long enough for the plot device to work on him. Dude's kind of a pushover in that movie.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Anime* Arceus, yeah. Thor would waste him effortlessly. I think MewTwo is the only pokemon who has ever benefitted from the anime in terms of power.

I'm still not sure how the anime so greatly differentiates from the games. Shouldn't they essentially be the same being? I haven't noticed any real changes in power or otherwise.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
I'm still not sure how the anime so greatly differentiates from the games. Shouldn't they essentially be the same being? I haven't noticed any real changes in power or otherwise. There are some pretty massive differences between them. VG Arceus created the entire pokeverse, including space and time and their respective embodiments, as well as Giratina, who is a complete badass. VG Arceus is at least cube level.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
There are some pretty massive differences between them. VG Arceus created the entire pokeverse, including space and time and their respective embodiments, as well as Giratina, who is a complete badass. VG Arceus is at least cube level.

Name of the movie, please? I'll just watch the damn thing when I get a chance. Lol. I'd like to see these differences.

Arceus and the Jewel of Life

Ash is an anime character in an anime vs thread. Would is team not also be anime version?

Yep. c:

Originally posted by ares834
Arceus and the Jewel of Life

Much appreciated.

http://youtu.be/GgwUJnhLMWQ?t=38m41s

For the relevant bit. Or you can just start at the beginning.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Ash is an anime character in an anime vs thread. Would is team not also be anime version?

I thought that too, but don't the movies typically follow the games?

I don't remember fighting entei in a dream castle or hanging with young oak in the games...

Originally posted by The Scenario
http://youtu.be/GgwUJnhLMWQ?t=38m41s

For the relevant bit. Or you can just start at the beginning.

Unrelated to the clip, how to you post videos in bits like that?

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I don't remember fighting entei in a dream castle or hanging with young oak in the games...

What I'm saying is: aren't they modeled after their VG counterparts in a sense?

Get the video URL ending with the character string ( ex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRvnWBVpag4 ) And add "&t=xmys

where X is the minute and y is the second.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
What I'm saying is: aren't they modeled after their VG counterparts in a sense? Separate canons, separate universes. They're very loosely based on the games, sure, but it's not quite the same thing.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Get the video URL ending with the character string ( ex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRvnWBVpag4 ) And add "&t=xmys

where X is the minute and y is the second.

Thanks again, man.


Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Separate canons, separate universes. They're very loosely based on the games, sure, but it's not quite the same thing.

I get that the stories are separate, but why does that, in this case, affect the substance of the characters? In the case of a reboot, such as DMC to DmC, I could understand. Here, I'm not quite getting it.

Zoro... from?
one piece

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Thanks again, man.




I get that the stories are separate, but why does that, in this case, affect the substance of the characters? In the case of a reboot, such as DMC to DmC, I could understand. Here, I'm not quite getting it. Because they are different from in game, as well as not being canon to one another. Characters that are significantly different are not the same, even if they look alike.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeOPFEYN_E8
Proof dbz characters are Faster than life.

Lol

Originally posted by ares834
Lol

Originally posted by battlemaster161
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeOPFEYN_E8
Proof dbz characters are Faster than life.
Watching it.

I've seen this scan, he's misrepresenting it, no usable time frame is given, lol.

He takes Gotenks bragging out of context.

He powerscales mindlessly...

Hurr Hurr Kaioken x400! (This has never happened)

Kaioken stacking! IIRC that only ever happened in anime filler, and it's still not useful for guaging Goku's speed.

I like how he keeps saying he's being conservative while taking things out of context and making shit up. haermm


So yeah, that was crap. We didn't even get a speed feat from Goku. We got one from Gotenks, one that is not quantifiable and not above light speed, and then we got a lot of powerscaling that can't be taken seriously. So no, Goku is not faster than light.

It was in the comics you idiot you apparently only seen the show this is comic version.

And yes he is your just a huge thor fan boy who cant admit when is superhero loses.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
It was in the comics you idiot you apparently only seen the show this is comic version. I know that Gotenks moving slower than light was in the 'comics', I've seen this panel before. Manga Goku is not faster than light.
Originally posted by battlemaster161
And yes he is your just a huge thor fan boy who cant admit when is superhero loses.
I would if Thor losing were the case, it isn't. Thor is the perfect character to wreck the DBZverse due to their massive dependancy on Ki, and lower speed, strength, and durability.

their FTL you just wont admit it and hes not the only fighting thor cant handle them all at once and i already gave reasons why his companions will lose. And gotenks was moving FTL in the comics apparently you don't listen.

Originally posted by battlemaster161
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeOPFEYN_E8
Proof dbz characters are Faster than life.
Fail 1 - Assuming an instant is incredibly stupid with nothing to go on A speed feat like this is useless without an in-manga timeframe.

Fail 2 - Then going on to assume Powerlevels scale linearly and perfectly, which they do not.

Fail 3 - SS3 Goku > SS3 Gotenks? Clearly this guy doesn't know his shit as its stated in both the manga and the guide that SS3 Goku on the level of SS1 Gotenks.

Fail 4 - Lol 400 Kaioken? Yup, guy knows jack.

On that Kaioken is already dodgy. Everyone says its a perfect increase, when thats never been stated:

http://i.imgur.com/hM7gYzk.png



Long story short; No.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
They are capable of being turned into hammer meat and being Hulk-smashed.

Like I said, do your research. THEN you can pass verdicts.

Love the new sig, BTW. Lol'd hard at it. Hahaha.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Clearly this guy doesn't know his shit as its stated in both the manga and the guide that SS3 Goku on the level of SS1 Gotenks. Uh, when?

Comparisons to Buu, this was further looked into recently on the anime board. The daizenetc guide also says just that, but their site is broken or something when I tried to grab the quote.