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How do we rank this in the most canonically sound way? my top 5 is:

1. Sidious
2. caedus(?)
3. Dooku
4. Exar Kun (?)
5. Ulic Qel Droma/Darth Malgus
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Without further ado, let us proceed in the creation of this list. I probably am missing/forgetting some people who should be in top 5, so correct me if i'm wrong.

1. Darth Sidious
2. Count Dooku/Darth Bane
3. Darth Caedus/Exar Kun
4. TCW Maul
5. Ulic Qel-Droma/Darth Malgus
6. Darth Krayt
7. Kas'im
8. Darth Vader
9. Darth Revan






















































10. Vitiate

1.Tulak Hord
2.Marka Ragnos
3.Lord Simus
4.Naga Sadow
5.Ludo Kressh
6.Exar Kun
7.Darth Revan
8.Kas'im
9.Darth Bane
10.ROTS Darth Vader

Originally posted by XRKun
1. Darth Sidious
2. Count Dooku/Darth Bane
3. Darth Caedus/Exar Kun
4. TCW Maul
5. Ulic Qel-Droma/Darth Malgus
6. Darth Krayt
7. Kas'im
8. Darth Vader
9. Darth Revan
























































10. Vitiate

crap I knew I forgot Bane/Krayt. But why's darth revan on your list? he's virtually featless.

revised list:

1. Sidious
2. Caedus
3. Dooku
4. Bane
5. Exar Kun
6. Darth Krayt
7. Darth Malgus
8.
9.
10.

Does this sound about right so far?

1. Sidious
2. Caedus
3. Tyranus
4. Vader/Maul
5. Vader/Maul
6. Krayt/Malgus
7. Krayt/Malgus
8. Bane
9. Opress
10. Kun

I wouldn't consider Maul>bane in dueling, as Bane has strength edge (extremely important for Djem So), extremely fast, being able to match speed with Maul most likely, can overwhelm a master of Soresu (Zannah) in dueling, was beating Kas'im till he whipped out jar'kai (note: kas'im is one of the greatest technical swordmasters in all of star wars), etc.

Maul's got greater feats. Bane's got a slight strength advantage, Maul's got a slight speed advantage.

Beating Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon Jinn is better than winning against Zannah and beating Kas'im.

You mean padawan Obi Wan and old, out of his prime, most likely tired qui-gonn jinn?

No, I mean Kenobi late-CW and one of the most skilled Jedi ever produced by the order Qui-Gon Jinn.

Oh yeah, the emotionally off-balance Obi Wan, and again, the older, tired, out of his prime Qui Gonn. He was one of the best ever produced in his prime, but at this point he's what, 60? And he was most likely tired in his fight.

Yeah, and same goes for Maul (and I can refer to their fight in Revival, where they stalemate for a minute while Maul was holding himself back , and again, prove Qui-Gon was past his prime.

First of all, Jinn, while a master of ataru, was still victim to the forms weaknesses, most notably a lack of defense/spending of energy. Both of these came into play against Darth Maul, as he was in close quarters, which severely hindered Jinn's form, forcing him onto the defensive, adding in Ataru's lack of defense, plus being fatigued from duel leading up to this, plus his large physical disadvantage, lead to Jinn's ultimate demise.

Edit: Maul was using Dun Moch in the tag battle of ventress and obi wan vs. maul and opress. This knocked Obi-wan's emotions completely off-balance, making him take a much more aggressive demeanor, leading to his defeat.

You've just made up a bunch of crap. Never is it stated that the environment favored Maul or hindered Jinn or vice-versa.

Maul was just better, that's a fact.

And nice to see you ignoring Maul beating/stalemating Obi-Wan.

Wait, so close quarters doesn't hinder ataru?

edit: didn't ignore it, lol

If it was an important factor in the duel, it'd been mentioned.

And I don't think close quarters were helping Maul's saberstaff either.

You're adding your own reasons onto established canon.

Still doesn't remedy the fact that Qui Gonn was most likely tired from previous duel, plus the large physical advantage Maul had.

What previous duel? The one on Tatooine? And Maul had a speed advantage, not a strength advantage.

Its impossible to rank duelists.

Some of the finest (in no specific order) are:-

- Sidious
- Luke
- HoT
- Tulak
- Scourge
- Dooku
- Obi-Wan
- Kas'im
- Anakin
- Jaric
- Malgus
- Bane
- Praven
- Aryn
- Kao
- Yoda
- Satele
- Zallow
- Kun
- Ulic
- Jacen/Caedus
- Windu
- Nyriss (possibly)
- Marr (possibly)
- Second Emperor's Wrath (possibly)

well we're trying to rank duelists in most canonically sound order, so that's why i'm trying to come up with list.

Intrepid has defeated me, therefore list shall rank as follows (imo):

1. Sidious
2. Caedus
3. Dooku
4. Krayt (has fought Cade as a superior, despite having enormous physical disadvantage, held his own against Kenobi shortly after order 66, but ended up being defeated, whooped pissed off anakin, has killed 4 imperial knights in seconds, defeated Darth Wyyrlok III, etc)
5. Maul/Vader
6. Maul/Vader
7. Bane
8. Malgus/Kun
9. Malgus/Kun
10. Ulic Qel droma

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Its impossible to rank duelists.

Some of the finest (in no specific order) are:-

- Sidious
- Luke
- HoT
- Tulak
- Scourge
- Dooku
- Obi-Wan
- Kas'im
- Anakin
- Jaric
- Malgus
- Bane
- Praven
- Aryn
- Kao
- Yoda
- Satele
- Zallow
- Kun
- Ulic
- Jacen/Caedus
- Windu
- Nyriss (possibly)
- Marr (possibly)
- Second Emperor's Wrath (possibly)

No Revan?

I am disappoint.

Your status as KotOR fanboy is hence forth revoked.

Originally posted by ares834
No Revan?

I am disappoint.

Your status as KotOR fanboy is hence forth revoked
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/vader.jpg

lol.

Forgot Plagueis though.

Meh, Plagueis lacks actual feats though, plus he despises lightsaber dueling, so he wouldn't want to be on this list

He's still a master swordsman and one of the strongest and fastest characters in the mythos.

Totally arbitrary order:

1. Sidious
2. Caedus
3. Dooku
4. Plagueis
5. Maul
6. Bane
7. Kun
8. Vader
9. Krayt
10. Malgus

Nice to see most people placing Dooku right near the top.

Are we talking about complete dueling ability or just lightsaber mastery?

Cuz Kas'im gets my vote as no 1 for the latter.

complete dueling ability (not just technical mastery)

Why is everyone putting Caedus at #2?
Dooku and Bane appear to be better duelists than Caedus, and has Caedus even mastered a form?

IMMM back but i forgot my old acount.
anways why did anyone even think of placing opress on the listt.*cough* fanboy!
and plagueis? If im not mistaken ive never seen him referred to as master achieved fencer.

Originally posted by XRKun
Why is everyone putting Caedus at #2?
Dooku and Bane appear to be better duelists than Caedus, and has Caedus even mastered a form?

I dunno, I wouldn't put him at 2 either.

And sure, probably multiple, but 'mastery' isn't the finish line for skill.