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Captain America Shield.
Diana Bracers (pre reboot version).
Thor hammer.

If possible, rank them.

Both the shield and Mjolnir have been broken whereas the Bracers have not(to my knowledge)

molecule man would prolly say caps shield

Bracers
Shield
Hammer

Agreed.

Seeing as how Uru was easily scooped out of a mountain by Thor after Mjolnir broke, it's a mix of the material and the enchantment that makes it so strong.

1st= Diana's bracelet n was handed over to her by zeus after zeus strenghten it with is lightening] 2nd=Thor's hammer was made by the dwarfs of uru n can survive heat up to 5 times the sun without a scratch 3rd captain america's shield is made of vibranium which is the toughest metal on earth

Problem is that the shield is often used for the Worf effect.

And no, its not just made of vibranium. Used to have iron and adamantium in it, now it also has uru.

Hulk Pants

Originally posted by Inhuman
Hulk Pants

I'd say that the bracers are the more durable.

After that, i'd say the shield, and finally, the Uru hammer.

If my memories are ok, Uru hammer = 1st grade adamantium as far as durability goes, but I'm not sure.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Hulk Pants Robin's b-hole.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Problem is that the shield is often used for the Worf effect.

And no, its not just made of vibranium. Used to have iron and adamantium in it, now it also has uru.

"Experimental iron alloy" OR adamantium depending on the writer. Vibranium part under every writer.

It has uru mixed in now, too... (edit: you already posted it, sry)

Originally posted by carver9
Captain America Shield.
Diana Bracers (pre reboot version).
Thor hammer.

If possible, rank them.
Nowadays

Bracers
Thor's hammer
CA Shield

But before the last ten years it was
Bracers
CA Shield
Thor's hammer

Cap's shield has lost stock these recent years.

You mean because Serpent broke it?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Problem is that the shield is often used for the Worf effect.

And no, its not just made of vibranium. Used to have iron and adamantium in it, now it also has uru.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
You mean because Serpent broke it? yes and other instances of it getting broken as well.

Originally posted by h1a8
yes and other instances of it getting broken as well.

What other instances.?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Bracers
Shield
Hammer

Originally posted by carver9
What other instances.?

It was broken in the Age of Ultron.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
It was broken in the Age of Ultron. No helping please.

Bracers, Shield, Hammer.

Not saying I disagree with the Bracers being the most durable, but...

The hammer can pretty much match any durability feat it has. Same with Cap's shield.

It just goes up against some other worldly shit and gets smashed.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Not saying I disagree with the Bracers being the most durable, but...

The hammer can pretty much match any durability feat it has. Same with Cap's shield.

It just goes up against some other worldly shit and gets smashed.

I honestly have no problem saying one is more durable than the others, was just giving my personal preference. Any actual gap between them is going to be incredibly small...

Damn, I wanted to insert a joke about Diana's virginity in there somehow, but It just won't fit.

Originally posted by -Pr-

Damn, I wanted to insert a joke about Diana's virginity in there somehow, but It just won't fit.

That's what she said.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I honestly have no problem saying one is more durable than the others, was just giving my personal preference. Any actual gap between them is going to be incredibly small...

Damn, I wanted to insert a joke about Diana's virginity in there somehow, but It just won't fit. You son of a gun you

vin

Bracers
Shield
Hammer

Hulk pants > all 3

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Not saying I disagree with the Bracers being the most durable, but...

The hammer can pretty much match any durability feat it has. Same with Cap's shield.

It just goes up against some other worldly shit and gets smashed.

True.

Mjolnir has been destroyed what, a dozen times already?

Shield, hammer, bracers.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mjolnir has been destroyed what, a dozen times already?
Maybe about as many times Thor has died. Which is too many.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Maybe about as many times Thor has died. Which is too many.
Actually, how many times has Thor died? I know destroyer killed him, he died in Ragnarok and in fear itself. Any other times?

The hammer has withstood some ridiculous crap. It actually tanked the eyebeams that cut through the shield.

Originally posted by Damborgson
The hammer has withstood some ridiculous crap. It actually tanked the eyebeams that cut through the shield.

Yeah, the hammer has been broken more times, but I don't think it will ever fail against something in direct comparison to the Shield. Or enchanted metal like the Bracers.

Originally posted by Damborgson
The hammer has withstood some ridiculous crap. It actually tanked the eyebeams that cut through the shield.
When? Don't tell me in Reigning. How did it fare against Perikkus BTW?

vin

Originally posted by abhilegend
When? Don't tell me in Reigning. How did it fare against Perikkus BTW?

vin

Right before Thor ripped New York apart. So prelude to reigning I guess.

As good as the shield and bracers would've held up.


Originally posted by abhilegend
vin

Originally posted by Damborgson
Right before Thor ripped New York apart. So prelude to reigning I guess.

As good as the shield and bracers would've held up.
Scans please. I don't remember that part where mjolnir withstood his eyebeams.

Also even Cassie's inferior bracers withstood Persuader's axe.

vin

Originally posted by abhilegend
Scans please. I don't remember that part where mjolnir withstood his eyebeams.

Also even Cassie's inferior bracers withstood Persuader's axe.

vin

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/KillsJake5.jpg

Yipee lol. Logans hair resisted the eyebeams better than the shield did. http://images.killermovies.com/forums/customsmilies/haw-som.gif

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Bracers
Shield
Hammer

I agree but.. BUT the respective universes are different. DC has its rules and laws, and so does Marvel. On the grounds of track record you're correct, but the bracers may have been destroyed by the same forces that have broken Mjolnir, and America's shield. I certainly believe that if Thanos grabbed Diana by the wrist and attempted to rip them off like he assaulted America's shield that they too would have been scrapped.

Now there could be an argument placed upon the hammer being more durable than the shield because they both had a collision and the hammer won when in the hands of King Thor. Could it be that due to the Odin Force that he possessed that the hammer could actually become more durable?

In this one case I would say that the list should go like this.

1. Bracer's
2. America's Shield
3. Mjolnir (wielded by Normal Thor)

OR

1. Bracer's
2. Mjolnir (wielded by Odin Force Thor)
3. America's Shield

OR

1. Mjolnir (wielded by RK Thor)
2. Bracers
3. America's Shield

This is if my theory is correct and the hammer actually becomes more powerful, and more durable depending on the level on the magical Asgardian/Odin Force or better character that possesses it.

Originally posted by Damborgson
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/KillsJake5.jpg

Yipee lol. Logans hair resisted the eyebeams better than the shield did. http://images.killermovies.com/forums/customsmilies/haw-som.gif

That's the point where the timeline diverged, its no longer 616 mjolnir.

You doubt Lord Wolverine and his indestructible hair? Srank is coming for you.

Originally posted by Damborgson
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/KillsJake5.jpg

Yipee lol. Logans hair resisted the eyebeams better than the shield did. http://images.killermovies.com/forums/customsmilies/haw-som.gif

Yup. In comparison, both Adamantium and Captain America's shield faltered.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's the point where the timeline diverged, its no longer 616 mjolnir.

You doubt Lord Wolverine and his indestructible hair? Srank is coming for you.

That doesn't change anything though. The entire run was using 616 characters, weapons, etc. Even when King Thor went back and assured that he didn't bring the Earth to its knees, he just went on living after that. He used the same Mjolnir, cap used the same shield, and Wolverine had the same hair. In other words, the shield that was broken, was caps 616 shield while the Mjolnir that was not, was also 616 Mjolnir. The events would've played out exactly the same had Thor not intervened.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That doesn't change anything though. The entire run was using 616 characters, weapons, etc. Even when King Thor went back and assured that he didn't bring the Earth to its knees, he just went on living after that. He used the same Mjolnir, cap used the same shield, and Wolverine had the same hair. In other words, the shield that was broken, was caps 616 shield while the Mjolnir that was not, was also 616 Mjolnir. The events would've played out exactly the same had Thor not intervened.
Then you don't know how marvel cosmology works. An alternate timeline automatically changes the characters. What-ifs are also just an example of that, they are 616 characters untill one point where they diverge. Gambit destroyed both mjolnir and shield in such a what-if, do you think he can do it to 616 mjolnir and shield too?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Then you don't know how marvel cosmology works. An alternate timeline automatically changes the characters. What-ifs are also just an example of that, they are 616 characters untill one point where they diverge. Gambit destroyed both mjolnir and shield in such a what-if, do you think he can do it to 616 mjolnir and shield too?

That's an arbitrary assumption. What-ifs are designed to be non-canon, non applicable stories. Some of them are exact copies of the 616 universe, some have completely different.

The point being, the divergence only stopped 616 characters from doing what they were already capable of doing. Meaning Thor can still shoot through the shield with the eyebeams, and Mjolnir can still resist them.

Scans of the gambit incident out of curiosity, but I don't see how that's relevant.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yup. In comparison, both Adamantium and Captain America's shield faltered.

http://www.nexusofnerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/thor_out.jpg

Originally posted by Damborgson
That's an arbitrary assumption. What-ifs are designed to be non-canon, non applicable stories. Some of them are exact copies of the 616 universe, some have completely different.

The point being, the divergence only stopped 616 characters from doing what they were already capable of doing. Meaning Thor can still shoot through the shield with the eyebeams, and Mjolnir can still resist them.

Scans of the gambit incident out of curiosity, but I don't see how that's relevant.
They are all just alternate universes diverged from 616 just like alternate timelines like Reigning. Heck Quasar once journeyed to every what-if issue published by jumping to alternate universes.

Of course not, Reigning is a different universe altogether now just like Age of Apocalypse which was created from 616 characters too.

I don't have scans of it. I just saw it in the ownage thread a long time ago and you know how hard it is to search in that big thread.

Lol, so in the 2 minutes before Jake Olsen died (And King Thor intervened), Mjolnir magically became more durable. Has to be what happened. Instead of the writer, you know, considering it to be that tough. The same writer who mind you, had Mjolnir dent Captain America's shield.

That desperation man, that desperation. Mind you, Damborg, this is the same individual who has used Kismet's vision of a potential future as evidence.

The Reigning story line was the canon future for Thor and the only changes that occurred were seen by us, it's not even remotely comparable to a What If. The King Thor from the recent Gorr arc might even be the same Thor from the Reigning.

It should be noted, in Fear Itself, it was stated that inserting Uru into Captain America's shield actually made it more tougher then ever. The blood axe, Captain America's shield, Wolverine's claws and so on all explicitly failed to withstand King Thor's power, while Mjolnir was not scratched. Not a happy coincidence.

The hammer has definitely been broken more often then the other objects, but looking at it's track record, it's held up ridiculously well.

How many times would you repeat the same lie as me using "Kismet's future as an evidence for superman" rage? Putting me on ignore and then taking potshots at me? Classic.

Also lulz @ being canon future. No future in marvel is canon, they all are from a different universe. Lets see what marvel has to say about it.

http://marvel.com/universe/Thor_(Thor_Odinson)

Originally posted by abhilegend
They are all just alternate universes diverged from 616 just like alternate timelines like Reigning. Heck Quasar once journeyed to every what-if issue published by jumping to alternate universes.

Of course not, Reigning is a different universe altogether now just like Age of Apocalypse which was created from 616 characters too.

I don't have scans of it. I just saw it in the ownage thread a long time ago and you know how hard it is to search in that big thread.

That doesn't change anything though. The way it went down was 616 King Thor enraged, killed Jake Olsen, and went on to rule Earth. Later, that same 616 Thor from his 616 timeline, goes on to prevent it from happening again. But at the end of the day, it still happened in a 616 universe. With 616 items, characters, and events to shape the histories of the characters involved.

It's not like a what if where the characters are still alternate realities that are just variations of the 616.

Ah ok. Yeah, it's a pain to go looking through it. Not the best evidence then without context of any sort lol.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The Reigning story line was the canon future for Thor and the only changes that occurred were seen by us, it's not even remotely comparable to a What If. The King Thor from the recent Gorr arc might even be the same Thor from the Reigning.


That's what I've been going off of. He just happens to be missing the same arm and eye as reigning Thor? I can't confirm, but it'd make the most sense to me and it'd make sense that Aaron was trying to go that direction by bringing back King Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Actually, how many times has Thor died? I know destroyer killed him, he died in Ragnarok and in fear itself. Any other times?
The effects of the Necrosword/Godbomb eventually killed Thor. All-Father Thor revived him soon after.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, so in the 2 minutes before Jake Olsen died (And King Thor intervened), Mjolnir magically became more durable. Has to be what happened. Instead of the writer, you know, considering it to be that tough. The same writer who mind you, had Mjolnir dent Captain America's shield.

That desperation man, that desperation. Mind you, Damborg, this is the same individual who has used Kismet's vision of a potential future as evidence.

The Reigning story line was the canon future for Thor and the only changes that occurred were seen by us, it's not even remotely comparable to a What If. The King Thor from the recent Gorr arc might even be the same Thor from the Reigning.

It should be noted, in Fear Itself, it was stated that inserting Uru into Captain America's shield actually made it more tougher then ever. The blood axe, Captain America's shield, Wolverine's claws and so on all explicitly failed to withstand King Thor's power, while Mjolnir was not scratched. Not a happy coincidence.

The hammer has definitely been broken more often then the other objects, but looking at it's track record, it's held up ridiculously well.

So is it or could it be possible that Mjolnir becomes sturdier and/or more durable depending on how powerful the wielder is in terms of the amount of Odin Force that the wielder possesses to a certain extent?

I do recall it being stated that the shield had become stronger due to it being mended with uru, so the shield has to be weaker than the hammer as you just stated. But does this little fact offset the idea that Mjolnir may become sturdier while in the possession of Odin, or an Odin Force Thor?

Originally posted by abhilegend
No future in marvel is canon This isn't true.

GotG is one example, of many.

Originally posted by Stoic
So is it or could it be possible that Mjolnir becomes sturdier and/or more durable depending on how powerful the wielder is in terms of the amount of Odin Force that the wielder possesses to a certain extent?

I do recall it being stated that the shield had become stronger due to it being mended with uru, so the shield has to be weaker than the hammer as you just stated. But does this little fact offset the idea that Mjolnir may become sturdier while in the possession of Odin, or an Odin Force Thor?

Possible I guess, he did use Mjolnir to overcome the Destroyer's beam and decapitate it:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/DefeatsDesak25.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/DefeatsDesak26.jpg

But in the example Damorg is referring to, it was simply Jake Olsen who used Mjolnir to block King Thor's onslaught:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/King%20Thor/KillsJake5.jpg.html

One-shotting Desak in the Destroyer armor... One of Thor's best feats ever, imho.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Possible I guess, he did use Mjolnir to overcome the Destroyer's beam and decapitate it:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/DefeatsDesak25.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/King%20Thor/DefeatsDesak26.jpg

But in the example Damorg is referring to, it was simply Jake Olsen who used Mjolnir to block King Thor's onslaught:
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/RageOfTheGod/media/Thor/King%20Thor/KillsJake5.jpg.html

So if that were true, as RK Thor the hammer may even be more durable than the bracers. I mean, this is what I'm thinking due to the idea that the Destroyer was meant to be more durable than Mjolnir. If not, the hammer in the scan that you provided should have shattered upon impact instead of damaging the construct.

Take note* That I am just power scaling the might and durability of the hammer, and bypassed King Thor's levels within my theoretical scope by jumping up to Rune King Thor.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That doesn't change anything though. The way it went down was 616 King Thor enraged, killed Jake Olsen, and went on to rule Earth. Later, that same 616 Thor from his 616 timeline, goes on to prevent it from happening again. But at the end of the day, it still happened in a 616 universe. With 616 items, characters, and events to shape the histories of the characters involved.

It's not like a what if where the characters are still alternate realities that are just variations of the 616.

Ah ok. Yeah, it's a pain to go looking through it. Not the best evidence then without context of any sort lol.
Nope. As soon as King Thor changed the past, the whole reality altered and it was reality 3515's mjolnir which was diverged from 616 which got attacked. Those events still happened, only in an alternate universe. Those scans aren't canon to 616 reality anymore than age of apocalypse is canon to 616.Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The effects of the Necrosword/Godbomb eventually killed Thor. All-Father Thor revived him soon after.
Ah, yeah. I forgot about that. He also died from a poison right?Originally posted by Galan007
This isn't true.

GotG is one example, of many.
No. GotG is Earth-691.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_(1969_team)

Reed has confirmed that even going a second in future makes you go into an alternate universe.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. As soon as King Thor changed the past, the whole reality altered and it was reality 3515's mjolnir which was diverged from 616 which got attacked. Those events still happened, only in an alternate universe. Those scans aren't canon to 616 reality anymore than age of apocalypse is canon to 616.


That doesn't really counter anything I said. And seeing as how that's more or less the same argument you've posted, just slightly re-worded, that's concession accepted Abhi-Chan

Originally posted by Damborgson
That doesn't really counter anything I said. And seeing as how that's more or less the same argument you've posted, just slightly re-worded, that's concession accepted Abhi-Chan


Nice quan impression. Though you've done nothing to prove your case here. That mjolnir isn't 616 mjolnir, its a diverged timeline and its feats can't be attributed to 616 mjolnir.

Originally posted by abhilegend


Nice quan impression. Though you've done nothing to prove your case here. That mjolnir isn't 616 mjolnir, its a diverged timeline and its feats can't be attributed to 616 mjolnir.

He didn't coin it, he just abused it

Whatever you feel like repeating Abhi-Chan All good.

Originally posted by Damborgson
He didn't coin it, he just abused it

Whatever you feel like repeating Abhi-Chan All good.
So he did.

Whatever you say, Damborgson112.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Bracers
Shield
Hammer

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. As soon as King Thor changed the past, the whole reality altered and it was reality 3515's mjolnir which was diverged from 616 which got attacked. Those events still happened, only in an alternate universe. Those scans aren't canon to 616 reality anymore than age of apocalypse is canon to 616.
Ah, yeah. I forgot about that. He also died from a poison right?
No. GotG is Earth-691.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_(1969_team)

Reed has confirmed that even going a second in future makes you go into an alternate universe. Okay?

You made a blanket statement that "no future in Marvel is canon." GotG is one example(of many) that contradicts your claim, as it is a 100% canonical future timeline. If you were exclusively referencing 616, you should have been more specific.

Originally posted by Galan007
Okay?

You made a blanket statement that "no future in Marvel is canon." GotG is one example(of many) that contradicts your claim, as it is a 100% canonical future timeline. If you were exclusively referencing 616, you should have been more specific.
It was more like no future is canon future of 616 universe.