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Rank the top 10 Sith of the TOR empire.


Here's mine

1. Emperor
2. The Dread Masters (Collectively)
3. Darth Jadus
4. Darth Malgus
5. Darth Marr
6. The Emperor's Wrath
7. Darth Baras
8. Darth Mortis (Hype)
9. Darth Ravage (Hype)
10. Darth Nox

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Mizukage Yoda, maybe you will help us with this:
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1. Emperor




2. Dread Masters
3. The First Son
4. darth Jadus (maybe)
5. Emperor's Wrath/Darth Nox
6. Emperor's Wrath/Darth Nox
7. darth Malgus
8. Darth Marr.
9. mortis/ravage
10. mortis/ravage

1. Vitiate
2. Dread Masters
3. Darth Jadus
4. Darth Nox
5. Darth Malgus
6. The First Son
7. The Emperor's Wrath
8. Darth Marr
9. Darth Thanaton
10. Darth Baras

No's 3 to 6 are kind of interchangeable. Jadus has the hugely impressive feat of shielding his cruiser from destruction and was said to be the most powerful Sith barring Vitiate but he has little else. I'm mostly putting him at the top out of personal feeling. I'm not sure I'd actually back him over the others in a thread. Malgus has extremely potent abilities and combat prowess that make him a dominating combatant. Nox has the combined power of 6 Master-level Force Users, powerful lightning, TK and shields and good mental power, owned Thanaton and is noted to be the most powerful Sith in generations. The First Son was able to conceal hundreds of Force Users at once constantly, is supreme amongst the powerful Emperor's Children and was a good fight for the Barsen'thor. All of them are incredible in their own ways.


I think its quite a big gap between them and the rest of the list. Marr might be above the Wrath. Dunno.

I don't think there's a huge gap btwn. Malgus/First Son and the Wrath, there probably isn't one at all TBH.

Meh. The Wrath seemed to be only a bit above Baras in that video I posted. More or less equal really. And Baras hasn't done anything that makes me think he approaches Malgus, the First Son, Jadus or Nox.

Except that Nox/Wrath undoubtedly became more powerful after having to face their respective dark council opponents, during their missions to stop the dread masters/Makeb and what not

Don't forget that Baras was being amped by outside sources

Originally posted by Nephthys
Meh. The Wrath seemed to be only a bit above Baras in that video I posted. More or less equal really. And Baras hasn't done anything that makes me think he approaches Malgus, the First Son, Jadus or Nox.

Uhh Baras at the height of his power was strong enough that the Emperor's Hands didn't think the Wrath had what it took to down him.
Marr and Ravage are most likely above the Wrath considering even after having his witnessing the Wrath's power Baras had faith that (especially Marr) could 'strike on the Emperor's behalf'.

Ravage's blatant trash talking of Thanaton, and his calmness in suggesting both he and Mortis could "silence" him hints towards a degree of superiority.

Also Marr, Ravage and Mortis were the big dogs towards the end of the war, with nominal political power also being in the hands of Vowrawn.

I did forget about the First Son though...

So revised list.

1. Emperor
2. Dread Masters
3. Darth Jadus/ First Son
4. Darth Malgus
5. Darth Marr
6. Emperor's Wrath
7. Darth Baras
8. Darth Ravage
9. Darth Mortis
10. Darth Nox

Yeah, i'm confident that one of those councilors could take down the wrath after a long fight with a vastly powerful dark council member...

Yeah I don't think Marr and Ravage are above the wrath. anyways, why Nox so low?

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Yeah, i'm confident that one of those councilors could take down the wrath after a long fight with a vastly powerful dark council member...

Yeah I don't think Marr and Ravage are above the wrath. anyways, why Nox so low?

I am confident Marr could take the Wrath. The man has control of 3 Sphere's of the Empire and is nominally the most powerful Sith in the galaxy by the late-game war.

Because defeating Thanaton isn't that impressive. He's mid-tier as far as the Council is concerned. Ravage seemed confident both him and Mortis could take him to the curb.

No Darth Caba?

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Because defeating Thanaton isn't that impressive. He's mid-tier as far as the Council is concerned. Ravage seemed confident both him and Mortis could take him to the curb.

Marr seemed to think Thanaton was top-tier. He says that he'd never thought to see anyone beat Thanaton.

And its impressive because Nox completely owns him. Nox is the most powerful Dark Council Member imo.

Perhaps, but I feel far too much implied power is being used.

but Nox completely owned Thanaton, a powerful dark councilor by all rights.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Marr seemed to think Thanaton was top-tier. He says that he'd never thought to see anyone beat Thanaton.

And its impressive because Nox completely owns him. Nox is the most powerful Dark Council Member imo.

isn't jadus a dark councilor?

He gets stripped of his seat early on in the game, but I guess I did overlook him a bit.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Marr seemed to think Thanaton was top-tier. He says that he'd never thought to see anyone beat Thanaton.

That's because Marr is old as shit. He's been a Dark Councilor for 40 years. Ravage's manner of speaking towards Nox and Thanaton is completely different than from Baras and the Wrath.



Nox is most certainly not the most powerful Dark Council member from hype. That almost certainly will go to Darth Marr. If Nox was so powerful she'd be consulted on matters of import. Instead Marr, Ravage, Mortis, and Vowrawn are the ones who are consulted on matters such as selecting the new Dark Council members.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
That's because Marr is old as shit. He's been a Dark Councilor for 40 years. Ravage's manner of speaking towards Nox and Thanaton is completely different than from Baras and the Wrath.

His tone would suggest otherwise. To me he was saying that he didn't think Thanaton would lose to anyone so easily. It fits with him being complimetary of Thanaton after you beat him.

Ravage is a punk, so who cares what he says. His objection was because Nox was only a Lord. When talking to the Emperor's Chosen of course he'd be more polite.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Nox is most certainly not the most powerful Dark Council member from hype. That almost certainly will go to Darth Marr. If Nox was so powerful she'd be consulted on matters of import. Instead Marr, Ravage, Mortis, and Vowrawn are the ones who are consulted on matters such as selecting the new Dark Council members.

I don't see how that follows. Nox is kind of.... stupid and inexperienced, so it makes sense to not to consult her on matters of actual import. In terms of demonstrated power she is above all the Dark Council. The way she got onto the Council was through raw power. Why would they even consult her about new Dark Council members when she's so green she hardly knows any of the candidates they'd be discussing?

Originally posted by Nephthys
His tone would suggest otherwise. To me he was saying that he didn't think Thanaton would lose to anyone so easily. It fits with him being complimetary of Thanaton after you beat him.

Except in that situation he is begging Nox to put aside her powerplays and such. So of course he's going to be flattering towards her accomplishments. All he says was that he was a better Sith than Ravage gives him credit for.



That 'punk' is nominally one of the top 3 Sith left in the Empire, and casually threatened to stomp your overhyped Thanaton. Except most if not all of the Council knew Baras was full of shit.




Because she has a considerable power base and powers of her own. If she was the most powerful Darth on the Council, I am pretty sure they'd consult her. Also again, I doubt Marr, Ravage or Mortis would have a problem taking Thanaton to the curb.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Except in that situation he is begging Nox to put aside her powerplays and such. So of course he's going to be flattering towards her accomplishments. All he says was that he was a better Sith than Ravage gives him credit for.

And if Ravage was such hot shit he'd be the one entrusted with the "This is the Empire's last chance" mission, not Nox.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
That 'punk' is nominally one of the top 3 Sith left in the Empire, and casually threatened to stomp your overhyped Thanaton. Except most if not all of the Council knew Baras was full of shit.

Only because he's one of the only ones left alive. Probably because he hasn't freaking done anything. His threats mean nothing. Thanaton threatens to beat up the entire Council after Ravages threat so who gives a shit about idle words? Baras had a considerable power base and no-one wanted to piss off the Emperor if it was true. Marr flat out says this.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Because she has a considerable power base and powers of her own. If she was the most powerful Darth on the Council, I am pretty sure they'd consult her. Also again, I doubt Marr, Ravage or Mortis would have a problem taking Thanaton to the curb.

Again, I don't see why they would. Her opinion is worthless since she's too inexperienced to know any of the candidates. She is good for beat shit up. Very good. By feats she is above them.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And if Ravage was such hot shit he'd be the one entrusted with the "This is the Empire's last chance" mission, not Nox.

Bullshit. Ravage, Mortis and Marr have an entire war to oversee. Or did you miss the whole 'We will face total defeat within the year' thing.




Yes, but its also due to his power. If anyone could claim to be the Voice, more would do it.




I'm not talking about feats, obviously.

Collectively, I'm not even sure Vitiate's better than the Dread Masters, honestly. At least not as a warrior. Styrak alone proved a viable threat to a Republic Strike team, one of the members being Vitiate's slayer.

I think Malgus is stronger than Nox and the Wrath, actually. He did take them on at the same time, as well as Cipher 9 and TGCOTH after all.

Also--Ravage is full of shit, M.Y. He likes Baras better. Baras's interests are more to his liking than Thanaton's. He's a cocky hothead. He's more politically and economically powerful than powerfully powerful, what what we've seen of him.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Collectively, I'm not even sure Vitiate's better than the Dread Masters, honestly. At least not as a warrior. Styrak alone proved a viable threat to a Republic Strike team, one of the members being Vitiate's slayer.

I think Malgus is stronger than Nox and the Wrath, actually. He did take them on at the same time, as well as Cipher 9 and TGCOTH after all.

Also--Ravage is full of shit, M.Y. He likes Baras better. Baras's interests are more to his liking than Thanaton's. He's a cocky hothead. He's more politically and economically powerful than powerfully powerful, what what we've seen of him.


Dude...Operations are most certainly not canon with the characters. I'm pretty sure its just a random team.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Collectively, I'm not even sure Vitiate's better than the Dread Masters, honestly. At least not as a warrior. Styrak alone proved a viable threat to a Republic Strike team, one of the members being Vitiate's slayer.

I think Malgus is stronger than Nox and the Wrath, actually. He did take them on at the same time, as well as Cipher 9 and TGCOTH after all.

Also--Ravage is full of shit, M.Y. He likes Baras better. Baras's interests are more to his liking than Thanaton's. He's a cocky hothead. He's more politically and economically powerful than powerfully powerful, what what we've seen of him.

Well, think about it. In flashpoints and operations, you have to basically fight through an entire army to get to the main enemy. wouldn't the strike team be, you know, tired b4 they get to the boss? Especially if some of the other bosses are canon. I mean, for the false emperor fp, you have to fight the leader of the trandoshan warriors, Jindo Krey (who seems to be a very skilled mandalorian), HK-47 (who has been upgraded vastly by this point), a sith entity, then malgus.

Plus, we don't know what strike team even does these flashpoints in the first place.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Bullshit. Ravage, Mortis and Marr have an entire war to oversee. Or did you miss the whole 'We will face total defeat within the year' thing.

The mission to Makeb was more important. If Ravage or Mortis were more powerful than Nox they would be the ones fighting for the future of the Empire and Nox would be overseeing the war. Their personal fighting skills are of more help there than simply overseeing battles.

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Yes, but its also due to his power. If anyone could claim to be the Voice, more would do it.

"The Hand then reveals that Baras intends to usurp the Emperor's power, an act of treason only made possible because the absent Emperor is preparing for a greater calling." - SWTORE

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
I'm not talking about feats, obviously.

Well you should be.