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Silver Surfer

VS

Darkseid- Classic
Darkseid- NU52

1) CIS off for Surfer
2) CIS on for Surfer

Herald or Horror?

Pre DCNU DS wins quite handily.

Post reboot... It depends. His implied power should put him well above Surfer, but I'd like to see more feats from him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Pre DCNU DS wins quite handily.

Post reboot... It depends. His implied power should put him well above Surfer, but I'd like to see more feats from him. what he said

Originally posted by -Pr-
Pre DCNU DS wins quite handily.

Post reboot... It depends. His implied power should put him well above Surfer, but I'd like to see more feats from him.

I can't argue with this.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Pre DCNU DS wins quite handily.

Post reboot... It depends. His implied power should put him well above Surfer, but I'd like to see more feats from him.

This but CIS off for Surfer...can't see Dakrseid pulling a majority.

Originally posted by carver9
This but CIS off for Surfer...can't see Dakrseid pulling a majority.

I read the OP. It doesn't change anything imo. Darkseid is above herald level.

Originally posted by carver9
This but CIS off for Surfer...can't see Dakrseid pulling a majority.

sneer

Originally posted by carver9
This but CIS off for Surfer...can't see Dakrseid pulling a majority. Carver, I may have to kill you soon. mmm

Originally posted by Badabing
Carver, I may have to kill you soon. mmm

I would pay to see it biscuits

Darkseid just depowers him.

DS oneshots him.
Pre or Post nu 52.

SS is a herald.
DS is simply above that.

PS. Carver get real.

Originally posted by Badabing
Carver, I may have to kill you soon. mmm

Would you delay it until after I get to shoot him in the face on Xbox LIVE?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Pre DCNU DS wins quite handily.

Post reboot... It depends. His implied power should put him well above Surfer, but I'd like to see more feats from him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Pre DCNU DS wins quite handily.

Post reboot... It depends. His implied power should put him well above Surfer, but I'd like to see more feats from him.

If Surfer tries to keep his distance, Darkseid kills Omega Beams him to death. If he tries to get in close, Darkseid beats him down like a redheaded stepchild.

Surfer wins, in both scenarios.

DS's OBeams took out SS pretty handily in the Galactus vs Darksied one shot.

He snuck attacked him.

Yeah, because Surfer, bracing for it, would totally tank the Omega... Right.

Naah, he would have dodged it or shielded the blast. Surfer was destroying apocalypse without trouble, even ran through Orion with ease. Can't see Darkseid defeating that Surfer if he was actually paying attention to him.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, he would have dodged it or shielded the blast. Surfer was destroying apocalypse without trouble, even ran through Orion with ease. Can't see Darkseid defeating that Surfer if he was actually paying attention to him.

If Surfer tried to dodge, the beams would just follow him.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, he would have dodged it or shielded the blast. Surfer was destroying apocalypse without trouble, even ran through Orion with ease. Can't see Darkseid defeating that Surfer if he was actually paying attention to him.

1. Crossovers aren't canon.
2. You're talking out of your ass and lowballing as usual.

"Can't see Darkseid defeating that Surfer"

What are you, ****ing high?

really, I don't get this "pretend objectivity" people have. If you want the Marvel guy to win, just ****ing say so.

Originally posted by -Pr-


really, I don't get this "pretend objectivity" people have. If you want the Marvel guy to win, just ****ing say so.

Exactly

Originally posted by -Pr-
1. Crossovers aren't canon.
2. You're talking out of your ass and lowballing as usual.

"Can't see Darkseid defeating that Surfer"

What are you, ****ing high?

really, I don't get this "pretend objectivity" people have. If you want the Marvel guy to win, just ****ing say so.

I gave Darkseid the majority...in a stomp fashion. I'm referring to CIS off Surfer who could basically do anything. If it makes anyone feel better, I think CIS off Surfer can beat Thanos and WBH as well.

Originally posted by carver9
I gave Darkseid the majority...in a stomp fashion. I'm referring to CIS off Surfer who could basically do anything. If it makes anyone feel better, I think CIS off Surfer can beat Thanos and WBH as well.

You mean forum avatar Surfer. CIS off Surfer is not the same thing.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, he would have dodged it or shielded the blast. Surfer was destroying apocalypse without trouble, even ran through Orion with ease. Can't see Darkseid defeating that Surfer if he was actually paying attention to him. I just have two questions for you.
1. Are you high right now?
2.Are you funtionally retarded?

Originally posted by -Pr-
1. Crossovers aren't canon.
2. You're talking out of your ass and lowballing as usual.

"Can't see Darkseid defeating that Surfer"

What are you, ****ing high?

really, I don't get this "pretend objectivity" people have. If you want the Marvel guy to win, just ****ing say so.

CIS off SS wins 10/10.

Opens a blockhole in DS's anus.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, he would have dodged it or shielded the blast. Surfer was destroying apocalypse without trouble, even ran through Orion with ease. Can't see Darkseid defeating that Surfer if he was actually paying attention to him.

Yes, because Surfer has never ever been hit by an energy blast when his opponent is facing him.

And really? DARKSEID VS GALACTUS: THE HUNGER(or whatever the title was) was filled with WTF? moments. Not that I don't think Surfer can't beat Orion(though I'd give Orion the majority) but it was pure bullshit bad writing for Surfer to treat Orion like he did. Surfer has been one-shot by Thor(twice I think), one-shot by Beta Ray Bill, helplessly strangled by Drax, manhandled by Lunatik, one-shot by Thing and Thing also manhandled him at Human Torch(although not really a factor) combined, and overpowered by Adam Warlock(and I'm not even getting into Surfer's EMBARRASSING showings like against Medusa, Spider-Man or bricks to his head), and yet Orion, one of DC's strongest, IMO stronger than any of those I've mentioned from Marvel, is treated like nothing when he gets in close? And that's without pointing-out how Surfer was getting owned by the Parademons before. And Surfer sensed Apokolips was fit for Galactus to feed on, and yet it wasn't, and nobody but Darkseid actually knew it? And probably other WTF? moments I can't remember.

Surfer wins


Is Superman slaps Darky around
Surfer can do it better..

To vers for Darky

Originally posted by Supermex
Surfer wins


Is Superman slaps Darky around
Surfer can do it better..

To vers for Darky

El. Oh. El.

Originally posted by Supermex
Surfer wins


Is Superman slaps Darky around
Surfer can do it better..

To vers for Darky
Superman would slap surfer around in h2h too. Its what he does.

That's your opinion.

Originally posted by carver9
That's your opinion.

So, you think Surfer would "slap around" Darkseid better than Superman like Supermex thinks(assuming he's not joking/trolling)?

Originally posted by Delta1938
So, you think Surfer would "slap around" Darkseid better than Superman like Supermex thinks(assuming he's not joking/trolling)?

Naah, ABHI didn't say that though and Surfer have some amazing combat showings.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, ABHI didn't say that though and Surfer have some amazing combat showings.

Abhi's response was to Supermex claiming if Superman slaps around Darkseid(which has happened Pre-DCnU, and both pre and post FLASHPOINT versions are in this thread) that Surfer does it better. You think Superman can't slap around Surfer close-up considering this post you didn't reply to?

Originally posted by Delta1938
Yes, because Surfer has never ever been hit by an energy blast when his opponent is facing him.

And really? DARKSEID VS GALACTUS: THE HUNGER(or whatever the title was) was filled with WTF? moments. Not that I don't think Surfer can't beat Orion(though I'd give Orion the majority) but it was pure bullshit bad writing for Surfer to treat Orion like he did. Surfer has been one-shot by Thor(twice I think), one-shot by Beta Ray Bill, helplessly strangled by Drax, manhandled by Lunatik, one-shot by Thing and Thing also manhandled him at Human Torch(although not really a factor) combined, and overpowered by Adam Warlock(and I'm not even getting into Surfer's EMBARRASSING showings like against Medusa, Spider-Man or bricks to his head), and yet Orion, one of DC's strongest, IMO stronger than any of those I've mentioned from Marvel, is treated like nothing when he gets in close? And that's without pointing-out how Surfer was getting owned by the Parademons before. And Surfer sensed Apokolips was fit for Galactus to feed on, and yet it wasn't, and nobody but Darkseid actually knew it? And probably other WTF? moments I can't remember.

Originally posted by carver9
That's your opinion.
You can ask surfer fanboys too if you think its just my opinion about who wins in a h2h fight between surfer and superman.

Anyone would argue Silver Surfer can beat an avatar of Darkseid However, real Darkseid would take wins.Silver Surfer could beat DCNU Darkseid if he went for a BFR.If Silver Surfer forgets about his powers and decides to take this up close and personal, then Silver Surfer will be in a world of hurt

Originally posted by abhilegend
You can ask surfer fanboys too if you think its just my opinion about who wins in a h2h fight between surfer and superman.


I never said Surfer can beat Superman in a fist fight but he can make a major fight out of it imo.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said Surfer can beat Superman in a fist fight but he can make a major fight out of it imo.
You can ask surfer fans about that too. See how many agree with you.

Darkseid wins this with the same ease that Thanos would.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said Surfer can beat Superman in a fist fight but he can make a major fight out of it imo.

So, what has Surfer done for you to think he can give Superman a major fight hand-to-hand?

Originally posted by Stoic
Darkseid wins this with the same ease that Thanos would.
Darkseid isn't in the same league power wise as Thanos. Regarding this fight, if Superman can do it.......................

Superman almost never beats ds without help. Stupid forum myths.

Originally posted by zopzop
Darkseid isn't in the same league power wise as Thanos. Regarding this fight, if Superman can do it.......................

Smdh. You severely underestimate DS.

All I ever seen is Superman beat up Darky


Dc fuc:;::k up Darky big time

They should of made Darky powerful like Thanos
So Superman can't just beat him so easy..

Thats why I think SS wins this fight
Like I said before SS is to vers for him

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman almost never beats ds without help. Stupid forum myths. Take a gander at this Superman hater.

Originally posted by Mindset
Take a gander at this Superman hater.

I think we should report him for DC hate, and lowballing.

Originally posted by Supermex
All I ever seen is Superman beat up Darky


Dc fuc:;::k up Darky big time

They should of made Darky powerful like Thanos
So Superman can't just beat him so easy..

Thats why I think SS wins this fight
Like I said before SS is to vers for him

You must not read much DC.

Originally posted by Supermex
All I ever seen is Superman beat up Darky


Dc fuc:;::k up Darky big time

They should of made Darky powerful like Thanos
So Superman can't just beat him so easy..

Thats why I think SS wins this fight
Like I said before SS is to vers for him
You... you're joking right? Superman has only ever beaten Darkseid due to either bad writing, getting help from others, or being amped (usually it's a mixture of two of those three things). Superman doesn't beat him easily and usually he can only beat him because the plot permits him to.

Originally posted by Mindset
Take a gander at this Superman hater.

I have.

His closings of various Superman involved threads is somewhat disturbing as well.

The House Of El is watching!

I AM the House of El, boy. uhuh

Originally posted by -Pr-
I AM the House of El, boy toy. uhuh

Fixed















just kidding MR MOD!

Originally posted by Delta1938
So, what has Surfer done for you to think he can give Superman a major fight hand-to-hand?

He tanked a She hulk punch!!!

Originally posted by -Pr-
I AM the House of El, boy. uhuh

Be careful how you address the TRUE ruler of the House of El.

You've witnessed my power already!

I closed your thread... shrug

DS 9/10

Originally posted by pym-ftw
DS 9/10

Originally posted by -Pr-
I closed your thread... shrug

Yes, and you're paying for it already.

You just don't know it yet!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Yes, and you're paying for it already.

You just don't know it yet!

Oh, okay...

Originally posted by Badabing


SILENCE, DELI MEAT!

After the revolution we'll use your skull to serve refreshments at the Badabonfire.

I wonder how many nachos fit in a raptor skull?

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
SILENCE, DELI MEAT!

After the revolution we'll use your skull to serve refreshments at the Badabonfire.

I wonder how many nachos fit in a raptor skull?

Deli Meat?! ROFL

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
SILENCE, DELI MEAT!

This thread's off-topic aspects have become

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/1912-so-much-win.jpg

i wanna smoke weed that man

I think the QueerFromBrokeback needs a timeout. Who made this drag the voice of the house of El? I might have to take my bat and visit the hood, but don't want to get convicted of a hate crime.

Originally posted by Diesldude
I think the QueerFromBrokeback needs a timeout. Who made this drag the voice of the house of El? I might have to take my bat and visit the hood, but don't want to get convicted of a hate crime. I doubt anyone will care.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Yes, because Surfer has never ever been hit by an energy blast when his opponent is facing him.

And really? DARKSEID VS GALACTUS: THE HUNGER(or whatever the title was) was filled with WTF? moments. Not that I don't think Surfer can't beat Orion(though I'd give Orion the majority) but it was pure bullshit bad writing for Surfer to treat Orion like he did.

Oh yeah, Surfer acted like he barely noticed Orion was trying to hurt him. I mean, the Obliterator, an obvious Orion ripoff, was staggering him and knocking him on his ass.

Orion got jobbed out, basically. While Darkseid never looked better. You'd never believe Orion could kill Darkseid, let alone fight him, from that story.

Originally posted by cdtm
Oh yeah, Surfer acted like he barely noticed Orion was trying to hurt him. I mean, the Obliterator, an obvious Orion ripoff, was staggering him and knocking him on his ass.

Orion got jobbed out, basically. While Darkseid never looked better. You'd never believe Orion could kill Darkseid, let alone fight him, from that story. I don't know about that last part. Because arguably, Darkseid was treated pretty horribly also. He attacked Surfer and had him on the ground, seemingly at his mercy... by bushwhacking him from behind. Which happened after Galactus had blasted the sh1t out of Surfer for defying him.

I'm not sure you could say Orion wouldn't have anywhere near the success with a sneak attack from behind like Darkseid did, had Orion also ambushed him from behind after Surfer had suffered at Galactus' hands.

Surfer wins.

Originally posted by ODG
I don't know about that last part. Because arguably, Darkseid was treated pretty horribly also. He attacked Surfer and had him on the ground, seemingly at his mercy... by bushwhacking him from behind. Which happened after Galactus had blasted the sh1t out of Surfer for defying him.

I'm not sure you could say Orion wouldn't have anywhere near the success with a sneak attack from behind like Darkseid did, had Orion also ambushed him from behind after Surfer had suffered at Galactus' hands.

Looks like Galactus restored/healed Surfer before Darkseid took him down.

http://s1199.photobucket.com/user/Delta1938/library/Captain%20Nazi%20exposure/_HUNGER

Originally posted by Delta1938
So, what has Surfer done for you to think he can give Superman a major fight hand-to-hand?

Because Superman isn't mexican or has a sledgehammer to beat Silver Surfer And everybody knows that is the only way Silver Surfer can be beaten Darkseid on the other hand can summon and mind control a mexican to knockout Silver Surfer

Originally posted by Igniz
Because Superman isn't mexican or has a sledgehammer to beat Silver Surfer And everybody knows that is the only way Silver Surfer can be beaten Darkseid on the other hand can summon and mind control a mexican to knockout Silver Surfer

Darkseid scans Rao's DNA and adds it to his own making him Mexican and uses matter manipulation to produce a sledgehammer, thus one-shotting Surfer every damned time. Darkseid 10,000,000,000,000/10.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Darkseid scans Rao's DNA and adds it to his own making him Mexican and uses matter manipulation to produce a sledgehammer, thus one-shotting Surfer every damned time. Darkseid 10,000,000,000,000/10.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El


What? He chose YOU because you're special!!! Like Carter.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Darkseid scans Rao's DNA and adds it to his own making him Mexican and uses matter manipulation to produce a sledgehammer, thus one-shotting Surfer every damned time. Darkseid 10,000,000,000,000/10.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El

Originally posted by Diesldude
I think the QueerFromBrokeback needs a timeout. Who made this drag the voice of the house of El? I might have to take my bat and visit the hood, but don't want to get convicted of a hate crime.

Make your mistake,boy!

Don't hesitate!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Make your mistake,boy!

Don't hesitate!

Honestly, I don't think you will like that.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Honestly, I don't think you will like that.

The Ruler of The House of El fears no one!

Surfer wins.

DS wins, handily

Originally posted by Insane Titan
DS wins, handily Based on ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer wins. based on ?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
based on ? Feats, powers, board.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Feats, powers, board. name such feats.

Power set means nothing as Surfer has more powers than Thor and he regularly has the upper hand on Surfer.

Lol board it's been broken by people far weaker than DS .

Try some real answers nect time please

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The Ruler of The House of El fears no one!

You're right; I don't.

Darkseid wins

Originally posted by Insane Titan
name such feats.

Power set means nothing as Surfer has more powers than Thor and he regularly has the upper hand on Surfer.

Lol board it's been broken by people far weaker than DS .

Try some real answers nect time please Board can be reformed. Easily crushing BrB whereas Aquaman stabbed Seid's eyes out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Board can be reformed. Easily crushing BrB whereas Aquaman stabbed Seid's eyes out. lol it didn't even put BRB down and it was a heap shot.

And, Surfer has tons of low cannon feats...Mexicans for starters

Classic fts. What low fts does Surfer have during and after Annihlation (his rebirth).?

Jobbing to Thor.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You're right; I don't.

You're obviously high on potato skins and cheap liquor, leprechaun.

SILENCE, USURPER!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer wins.

Why do you hate DC?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Board can be reformed. Easily crushing BrB whereas Aquaman stabbed Seid's eyes out.

Stabbed his eyes out, and yet he obviously still had his eyes in the next panel. Smh. That can't even be called lowballing, that's like Noballing lol. It's so far in left field that the only logical response seems to be to laugh and move on.

So here goes...

LOL!

Originally posted by Odekahn
Why do you hate DC? I don't.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Stabbed his eyes out, and yet he obviously still had his eyes in the next panel. Smh. That can't even be called lowballing, that's like Noballing lol. It's so far in left field that the only logical response seems to be to laugh and move on.

So here goes...

LOL! If it takes far less power to injure him so by someone of Aquman caliber than Surfer is going to wreck him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If it takes far less power to injure him so by someone of Aquman caliber than Surfer is going to wreck him. Isn't Aquaman's trident magical and unbreakable?

Originally posted by deathslash
Isn't Aquaman's trident magical and unbreakable? Hyperbole. Surfer wins based off feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hyperbole. Surfer wins based off feats. Hasn't Darkseid shown in the new52 that he can casually bust planets and oneshot superman?

Originally posted by deathslash
Hasn't Darkseid shown in the new52 that he can casually bust planets and oneshot superman? Surfer can casually bust planets and the Nu Superman isn't that great IMO.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You're obviously high on potato skins and cheap liquor, leprechaun.

SILENCE, USURPER! As if cheap liquor can even phase him

Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer can casually bust planets and the Nu Superman isn't that great IMO. Do you think that surfer could solo the Justice league like Darkseid did?

Originally posted by deathslash
Do you think that surfer could solo the Justice league like Darkseid did? Yes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes. Oh, I get it. As long as they're not Mexicans with hammers surfer can take them.

Originally posted by deathslash
Oh, I get it. As long as they're not Mexicans with hammers surfer can take them. Better than a thug with a chain.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Better than a thug with a chain. See, there's two things wrong with that post. Surfer getting beaten up by those Mexicans is still canon and he wasn't depowered. Darkseid was depowered and that story isn't even canon.

Originally posted by deathslash
See, there's two things wrong with that post. Surfer getting beaten up by those Mexicans is still canon and he wasn't depowered. Darkseid was depowered and that story isn't even canon. Wasnt the surfer pretending to be hurt just to spare them ?

Surfer wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If it takes far less power to injure him so by someone of Aquman caliber than Surfer is going to wreck him.

Really? Because Namor has injured Surfer too. You're lowballing and not taking the entire story within its context.

And you appear to loathe DC because all you do is argue DC low feats vs Marvel high feats...

Originally posted by Odekahn
Really? Because Namor has injured Surfer too. You're lowballing and not taking the entire story within its context.

And you appear to loathe DC because all you do is argue DC low feats vs Marvel high feats... Yes, he has but he did not stab his eyes out.

Darkseid doesn't have many showings. Quit ignoring it just because you hate it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he has but he did not stab his eyes out.

Darkseid doesn't have many showings. Quit ignoring it just because you hate it.

I'm not ignoring anything, I'm calling you out on some BS that you are trying to shovel. Show the panel with Darkseid's eyes out of his skull. You can't find it? That's because it doesn't exist. He got stabbed in the eyes, but he ate it like it was nothing and wasn't even impaired because of it. You treat it like Aquaman went all Pai Mai from Kill Bill and just snatched out both his eyes, blinding him. Your embellishment is at a ridiculous level.

Why don't we bring up some of Darkseid's feats, like soloing the league and one shotting Superman.

Or since you like picking at characters low showings, we could start digging through some of Surfer's?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he has but he did not stab his eyes out.
That's probably because he doesn't have an unbreakable magical trident. Also, you're acting like it was just Aquaman against Darkseid when in reality, it took Diana and her magical sword to take out his other eye while the others distracted him and even then he was still manhandling them.

Originally posted by Odekahn
I'm not ignoring anything, I'm calling you out on some BS that you are trying to shovel. Show the panel with Darkseid's eyes out of his skull. You can't find it? That's because it doesn't exist. He got stabbed in the eyes, but he ate it like it was nothing and wasn't even impaired because of it. You treat it like Aquaman went all Pai Mai from Kill Bill and just snatched out both his eyes. Your embellishment is at a ridiculous level.

Why don't we bring up some of Darkseid's feats, like soloing the league and one shotting Superman.

Or since you like picking at characters low showings, we could start digging through some of Surfer's? It is an expression when someone says stab eyes out which doesn't literally mean out of the skull. I didn't lie about anything,

League was inexperienced and Darkseid doesn't have numerous impressive feats. Surfer wins. Let it go, sport.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is an expression when someone says stab eyes out which doesn't literally mean out of the skull. I didn't lie about anything,

League was inexperienced and Darkseid doesn't have numerous impressive feats. Surfer wins. Let it go, sport.

Oh, so now that you can't provide proof to your claim it was "just an expression"?

And you are intentionally trying to mislead and deceive with HOW you are saying things, where I come from, that's called lying.

The league was inexperienced AS A TEAM. That doesn't make DS's feat of one shotting Superman, and manhandling the other members of the league any less impressive.

And since you want to play the game that way, I will oblige. Tell you what, find the lowest possible showing that you can for Nu52 DS and I will find one for Surfer, then we can compare them. It's not going to work out in your favor.

Also, the "s" in "sport" should be capitalized if you are trying to name an individual.

It took the entire team working together to beat Darkseid; no one character was able to match him by themselves, and even working as a team they were still on the back-foot until Superman and Cyborg joined in.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You're obviously high on potato skins and cheap liquor, leprechaun.

SILENCE, USURPER!

lol, cheap liquor.

What kind of Irishman do you think I am?

Originally posted by deathslash
Isn't Aquaman's trident magical and unbreakable?

Yes, Geoff Johns said so, even if some people want to try to lowball it.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Oh, so now that you can't provide proof to your claim it was "just an expression"?

And you are intentionally trying to mislead and deceive with HOW you are saying things, where I come from, that's called lying.

The league was inexperienced AS A TEAM. That doesn't make DS's feat of one shotting Superman, and manhandling the other members of the league any less impressive.

And since you want to play the game that way, I will oblige. Tell you what, find the lowest possible showing that you can for Nu52 DS and I will find one for Surfer, then we can compare them. It's not going to work out in your favor.

Also, the "s" in "sport" should be capitalized if you are trying to name an individual. He stabbed his eyes. You not being able to understand a basic expression is your problem.

This is an internet message board not a college setting so relax, sport. It is undeniable that the trident ripped through his soft eyes while the Surfer has planetary destroying power. Do the math. Surfer wins.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It took the entire team working together to beat Darkseid; no one character was able to match him by themselves, and even working as a team they were still on the back-foot until Superman and Cyborg joined in.



lol, cheap liquor.

What kind of Irishman do you think I am?



Yes, Geoff Johns said so, even if some people want to try to lowball it.

Exactly. And furthermore, the JL had to resort to BFR in desperation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He stabbed his eyes. You not being able to understand a basic expression is your problem.

This is an internet message board not a college setting so relax, sport. It is undeniable that the trident ripped through his soft eyes while the Surfer has planetary destroying power. Do the math. Surfer wins.

And I would have been fine with you saying he stabbed his eyes, but it's when you say he stabbed his eyes OUT that I take issue. You not being able to use terms correctly is your problem.

And I know it's an internet message board, I was trying to help you out. If you are trying to demean someone, it's works better if you don't look like an idiot in the process.

Also, Math done... Superman has planetary power as well and got one shotted by DS. Surfer loses. Badly.

Originally posted by Odekahn
And I would have been fine with you saying he stabbed his eyes, but it's when you say he stabbed his eyes OUT that I take issue. You not being able to use terms correctly is your problem.

And I know it's an internet message board, I was trying to help you out. If you are trying to demean someone, it's works better if you don't look like an idiot in the process.

Also, Math done... Superman has planetary power as well and got one shotted by DS. Surfer loses. Badly. again an expression.


Look sport don't get worked up. You getting riled up over Surfer's win is something you need to learn to deal with, sport.


Superman isn't the Surfer and didn't lay into him like the Surfer can and will. Surfer wins. Ds needs time to accrue more feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
again an expression.


Look sport don't get worked up. You getting riled up over Surfer's win is something you need to learn to deal with, sport.


Superman isn't the Surfer and didn't lay into him like the Surfer can and will. Surfer wins. Ds needs time to accrue more feats.

So at first it was a fact, now it's an expression... You're backpedaling.

And please, it would take way more than "sport" to get me riled up. I've been called MUCH worse! Lol

He didn't because he couldn't, he was busy being KO'd by Darkseid's OMEGA beams. Just like Surfer would be.

Originally posted by Odekahn
So at first it was a fact, now it's an expression... You're backpedaling.

And please, it would take way more than "sport" to get me riled up. I've been called MUCH worse! Lol

He didn't because he couldn't, he was busy being KO'd by Darkseid's OMEGA beams. Just like Surfer would be. His eyes being stabbed is a fact and using the word out makes it an expression.

Surfer is more durable and is not Superman. Abc logic.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His eyes being stabbed is a fact and using the word out makes it an expression.

Surfer is more durable and is not Superman. Abc logic.

No, using the word OUT is a directional descriptive.

And isn't ABC logic what you are using by saying since Aquaman could stab DS in the eyes, that he will be no match for Surfer?

Originally posted by Odekahn
No, using the word OUT is a directional descriptive.

And isn't ABC logic what you are using by saying since Aquaman could stab DS in the eyes, that he will be no match for Surfer? An expression.


Surfers power level is higher than that which shows he can definitely do so. Throw the board in there and its a wrap.


Surfer is also more durable than Superman IMO.

Originally posted by quanchi112
An expression.


Surfers power level is higher than that which shows he can definitely do so. Throw the board in there and its a wrap.


Surfer is also more durable than Superman IMO.

An expression that you deceivingly used to try and make DS look bad, while ignoring his insane feats. Your bias is transparent.

Yet we have many instances of beings far less powerful than Superman who are able to harm Surfer...

The lowest showing you can even come up with for DS isn't even what you portray it as. It didn't even inhibit DS, lol.

If you really want to go there though, then fine. Ok, let's say AQ tore through DS's eyes and damaged them to the point of blinding him. The fact that he is fine and with eyes in the next couple of panels shows DS has a healing factor then, no? So anything Surfer throws, DS will take or heal from.

And then he will one shot Surfer.

Originally posted by Odekahn
An expression that you deceivingly used to try and make DS look bad, while ignoring his insane feats. Your bias is transparent.

Yet we have many instances of beings far less powerful than Superman who are able to harm Surfer...

The lowest showing you can even come up with for DS isn't even what you portray it as. It didn't even inhibit DS, lol.

If you really want to go there though, then fine. Ok, let's say AQ tore through DS's eyes and damaged them to the point of blinding him. The fact that he is fine and with eyes in the next couple of panels shows DS has a healing factor then, no? So anything Surfer throws, DS will take or heal from.

And then he will one shot Surfer. His eyes were stabbed which is the point. I am stating a fact.

Such as ? Hurting and stabbing eyes are two completely different things.

Ds was a Voorhees like brick in that arc. Not the sharpest tool in the box in that arc.


There are limits and we see him clearly bested by an inexperienced, ignorant team when it comes to Darksied.

Based on ?

Originally posted by -Pr-
1. Crossovers aren't canon.
2. You're talking out of your ass and lowballing as usual.

"Can't see Darkseid defeating that Surfer"

What are you, ****ing high?

really, I don't get this "pretend objectivity" people have. If you want the Marvel guy to win, just ****ing say so.


You know the answer to that

Originally posted by quanchi112
His eyes were stabbed which is the point. I am stating a fact.

Such as ? Hurting and stabbing eyes are two completely different things.

Ds was a Voorhees like brick in that arc. Not the sharpest tool in the box in that arc.


There are limits and we see him clearly bested by an inexperienced, ignorant team when it comes to Darksied.

Based on ?

No, the point is the picture you tried to paint when talking about the instance. One that you are now, thankfully, backpedaling on.

His one shotting a high herald and your apparent logic.

He was stabbed twice: Once with a magical Amazonian blade, and once with a trident forged by magical atlanteans.

Both attacks hurt him, but neither put him down. the dude was still fighting. How any body can be desperate enough to try to turn it in to some sort of low showing is beyond me.

Originally posted by -Pr-
He was stabbed twice: Once with a magical Amazonian blade, and once with a trident forged by magical atlanteans.

Both attacks hurt him, but neither put him down. the dude was still fighting. How any body can be desperate enough to try to turn it in to some sort of low showing is beyond me.

Not to mention both attacks were made by class 100 characters.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If it takes far less power to injure him so by someone of Aquman caliber than Surfer is going to wreck him.

The trident can go through Surfer too, with much more significant effects, since Surfer doesn't really go it raw regularly.

lol @ "Aquaman's calibre".

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, he would have dodged it or shielded the blast. Surfer was destroying apocalypse without trouble, even ran through Orion with ease. Can't see Darkseid defeating that Surfer if he was actually paying attention to him.

Orion's form see saws because of all the injuries he gets from constant battle. So SS going through him, ain't much of a surprise. On a different day Orion may have taken his teeth out.

As far as Apokolips is concerned, he took out some parademons and probably some Dog cavalry, rank and file soldiers by New God standards - hardly a precedent.

Originally posted by Odekahn
No, the point is the picture you tried to paint when talking about the instance. One that you are now, thankfully, backpedaling on.

His one shotting a high herald and your apparent logic. Superman went up against an unknown foe and despite their lack of knowledge still defeated him along with showing what level of power can wreck his pupils.

Originally posted by Allankles
The trident can go through Surfer too, with much more significant effects, since Surfer doesn't really go it raw regularly. I disagree entirely. No proof it would go through the Surfer. He's just more durable than Darkseid, apparently.

Norrin

Originally posted by brownqk
Norrin

Originally posted by brownqk
Uxas fixed that for you.

Originally posted by -Pr-
lol, cheap liquor.

What kind of Irishman do you think I am?


The kind that gets floored by 2 cups of Bailey's.

The House of El certaintly can do better than that for leadership.

The Surfer tapped out to an armbar by Black Panther!

Darkseid IS the winner!

Never happened.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The Surfer tapped out to an armbar by Black Panther!

Darkseid IS the winner! Again, Surfer wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman went up against an unknown foe and despite their lack of knowledge still defeated him along with showing what level of power can wreck his pupils.

You're horrendously taking things out of context.

Originally posted by Odekahn
You're horrendously taking things out of context. No, just accept it. Quit arguing because you like Darkseid more against Surfers longer history and greater feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, just accept it. Quit arguing because you like Darkseid more against Surfers longer history and greater feats.

Surfer also has some way lower showings than Nu52 DS.

DS lowest showing > SS lowest showing

Originally posted by Odekahn
Surfer has way lower showings than Nu52 DS.

DS lowest showing > SS lowest showing Because he has more showings. He also has higher showings.

Surfer wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because he has more showings. He also has higher showings.

Surfer wins.

Surfer can't solo the JL. DS did. Surfer is outclassed. Just embrace the truth.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Surfer can't solo the JL. DS did. Surfer is outclassed. Just embrace the truth. Seid lost so he never solo'd them either.



Surfer wins. Aquaman power can rape Seid's eyes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Aquaman power can rape Seid's eyes.

Mmhmm, clearly he did that alone. Do you enjoy deliberately misrepresenting the facts?

Originally posted by Cogito
Mmhmm, clearly he did that alone. Do you enjoy deliberately misrepresenting the facts? His power can pierce his eyes. I don't think Aquaman can beat Seid. Try understanding my point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Seid lost so he never solo'd them either.



Surfer wins. Aquaman power can rape Seid's eyes.

There were multiple fights within that arc, where he easily soloed the team...