Ven Zallow vs Cade Skywalker

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Jmanghan
Who's the winner of this?
Battle takes in the Rebel base on Hoth, No one inteferes.

Intrepid37
Cade.

Q99
Yea, Cade. By the end of the series, Cade's an excellent duelist, and he definitely has much more force power.

Nephthys
Cade.

Allankles
Originally posted by Q99
Yea, Cade. By the end of the series, Cade's an excellent duelist, and he definitely has much more force power.

ares834
Cade, easily.

Nephthys
I don't think its that easy. Zallow did give a good fight to Malgus.

Allankles
Zallow is slightly suicidal, but it will be a good match, you're right - non lethal conclusion.

ares834
He was getting his ass handed to him pretty hard. Don't get me wrong he is pretty skilled but, in the end, he only dueled with Malgus for half a minute before being gutted.

Allankles
He'd already beat Malgus as far as scoring a critical hit is concerned. He just had this suicidal-walk straight-into-my enemy space thing. Plus Malgus probably TK locked him.

Intrepid37
Zallow got a few hits in. It definitely wasn't a stomp.

ares834
Zallow got one inconsequential hit in. By contrast Malgus got three fairly significant hits in, one of which was fatal.

Not saying it was a stomp but Zallow was totally outmatched by Malgus.

Intrepid37
Malgus only got one physical hit in and it was as insignificant as Zallow's. Malgus forced Zallow back in the start, Zallow forced back Malgus in the end.

Not seeing the disparity.

Nephthys
The fights closer in the book and they're described as near equals.

ares834
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Malgus only got one physical hit in and it was as insignificant as Zallow's. Malgus forced Zallow back in the start, Zallow forced back Malgus in the end.

Not seeing the disparity.

Except, Malgus's kick sent Zallow flying backwards. He also sent Zallow threw concrete with a force push. But, of course, the big one is when he stabs Zallow.

And forcing people back is pretty meaningless it just typically means you are on the defensive, nothing more or less.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The fights closer in the book and they're described as near equals.

True, the book does change the duel. But I favor what happened in the trailer. If only because it is far cooler. Not sure which version is more canon however.

Intrepid37
Again, the only significant blow Malgus dealt him was the fatal one. The kick did as little as Zallow's hit did. The Force push came thanks to Zallow being distracted by other Sith warriors.

The book should undoubtedly be of higher canonicity level.

ares834
Uh, no. Zallow was distracted by Malgus throwing his saber...

Why? The trailer is a cutscene within the game itself.

Intrepid37
Which would be easier to dodge had Zallow not be distracted by the Sith.

We can look at release dates. What was released first, the trailer or the book?

ares834
erm Malgus doesn't throw his lightsaber until after Zallow kills the Sith. Perhaps, were the Sith not there Zallow may have doged it a differnt way. Regardless, Malgus still took down Zallow is a short fight. Seems pretty clear Zallow was quite outmatched.

The trailer was released first, the book second, and the cutscene third.

Intrepid37
I know... but it would have been easy to dodge had he not been occupied with the Sith. Regardless, it was an insignificant hit. It did nothing in Malgus's favor.

Good. Book is newer, it enjoys superiority over the older trailer.

ares834
Nope, edited cutscene is newer still.

Intrepid37
Cutscene? As in the game?

ares834
Yep. It pops up when you chose to play a Sith character.

Intrepid37
Do you have a link?

ares834
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Intrepid37
That's exactly the same as the trailer.

ares834
Nope different dialogue. stick out tongue

Intrepid37
lol

Allankles
Originally posted by Intrepid37
Malgus only got one physical hit in and it was as insignificant as Zallow's. Malgus forced Zallow back in the start, Zallow forced back Malgus in the end.

Not seeing the disparity.

They were equals, Zallow was simply more forgiving.

S_W_LeGenD
Cade is possibly superior over-all but Zallow can hold his own against him.

NewGuy01
Cade.

chilled monkey
Ven would put up a good fight, but ultimately Cade would take the win.

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