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This is based off of physical fts...best showings! No Pre Crisis era or classic fts. Date range from the yr 1990 on up. Consist of trans tier down. Nothing above the trans power scale.

What's the best combat speed ft.
Best durability ft.
Best flight speed ft.
Best lifting fts (big objects).
Best pushing ft (big objects).

Originally posted by carver9
This is based off of physical fts...best showings! No Pre Crisis era or classic fts. Date range from the yr 1990 on up. Consist of trans tier down. Nothing above the trans power scale.

What's the best combat speed ft.
Best durability ft.
Best flight speed ft.
Best lifting fts (big objects).
Best pushing ft (big objects).

Quantifiable or Metaphysical or Esoterical?

Originally posted by carver9
This is based off of physical fts...best showings! No Pre Crisis era or classic fts. Date range from the yr 1990 on up. Consist of trans tier down. Nothing above the trans power scale.

What's the best combat speed ft.
Best durability ft.
Best flight speed ft.
Best lifting fts (big objects).
Best pushing ft (big objects).

1. Probably Zoom
2. SBP universe-buster
3. Impossible. Distance/Time are rarely mentioned so this usually just becomes a hypothetical guessing game between SS and Superman, with a few people throwing around actually quantified speeds such as Azrael 1M.
4. Ultraman
5. Pushing? Who the hell pushes anything?

1) Dodging Batgod.

2) Superman's head still attached to his body after taking Batgod's punch.

3) Almost tagging Batgod.

4) Lifting your mom's car.

5) Moving your mom's car.

All feats performed by no one else than the Man of Steel, of course.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
2) Superman's head still attached to his body after taking Batgod's punch.

Batkick would have done him in for sure

It would turn Kent to ash...

Feats more on the quantifiable side, I'm assuming?

Combat speed: Zoom-- consistently out-speeding ANY versions of Flash represents speed that really cannot be rivaled by anyone, sans massive amps.

Durability to energy attacks: Prime-- tanking anti-matter as well as universe-busting energies. Durability to physical and/or piercing attacks:
classic Juggernaut-- 'nuff said.

Flying speed: Azrael 1M-- flew from Pluto to Mars in a nanosecond. A distance of roughly 3,500,000,000 miles in one billionth of a second. Do the math.

Lifting strength: Superman-- pressed earth-weight for 5 consecutive days non-stop.

Pushing feats: Prime pushed multiple planets across the universe at high speeds with ease, does that count? If not, WAR Hulk pushing Juggernaut back, maybe?

Originally posted by Galan007
Feats more on the quantifiable side, I'm assuming?

Combat speed: Zoom-- consistently out-speeding ANY versions of Flash represents speed that really cannot be rivaled by anyone, sans massive amps.

Durability to energy attacks: Prime-- tanking anti-matter as well as universe-busting energies. Durability to physical and/or piercing attacks:
classic Juggernaut-- 'nuff said.

Flying speed: Azrael 1M-- flew from Pluto to Mars in a nanosecond. A distance of roughly 3,500,000,000 miles in one billionth of a second. Do the math.

Lifting strength: Superman-- pressed earth-weight for 5 consecutive days non-stop.

Pushing feats: Prime pushed multiple planets across the universe at high speeds with ease, does that count? If not, WAR Hulk pushing Juggernaut back, maybe?



Who is that guy in you Avatar?

Originally posted by Galan007
Feats more on the quantifiable side, I'm assuming?

Combat speed: Zoom-- consistently out-speeding ANY versions of Flash represents speed that really cannot be rivaled by anyone, sans massive amps.

Durability to energy attacks: Prime-- tanking anti-matter as well as universe-busting energies. Durability to physical and/or piercing attacks:
classic Juggernaut-- 'nuff said.

Flying speed: Azrael 1M-- flew from Pluto to Mars in a nanosecond. A distance of roughly 3,500,000,000 miles in one billionth of a second. Do the math.

Lifting strength: Superman-- pressed earth-weight for 5 consecutive days non-stop.

Pushing feats: Prime pushed multiple planets across the universe at high speeds with ease, does that count? If not, WAR Hulk pushing Juggernaut back, maybe?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime


Who is that guy in you Avatar? Yorick Brown and his pet monkey Ampersand from Y: The Last Man.

Would Zoom count as a 'speed' feat? Because technically he's not using superspeed, just manipulating time.

Galan007 right on point with each feat

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
Would Zoom count as a 'speed' feat? Because technically he's not using superspeed, just manipulating time. Relative to everyone else, Zoom does utilize super-super-super-speed. So yes, his showings should definitely count as speed feats.

couple of things

does prime universe buster counts as universe buster? the universe was seen in FC not destroyed, unless it was receated in 52.

dont know if it counst

also when has War Hulk pushed back the juggernaut? He stopped him, Thor's GB was the one who pushed him back. and still it dwarfs compared to moving planets at ftl.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1) Dodging Batgod.

2) Superman's head still attached to his body after taking Batgod's punch.

3) Almost tagging Batgod.

All feats performed by no one else than the Man of Steel, of course. Can't argue with any of those feats.

Judt realised Galans sig is UM snorting Powdered K

best relative in meta terms is spiderman in all :3

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
couple of things

does prime universe buster counts as universe buster? the universe was seen in FC not destroyed, unless it was receated in 52.

dont know if it counst

also when has War Hulk pushed back the juggernaut? He stopped him, Thor's GB was the one who pushed him back. and still it dwarfs compared to moving planets at ftl. Monarch's blast did destroy universe-51, but soon thereafter the Monitors recreated it. Solomon then introduced the Morticoccus virus into universe-51, killing all sentient life within it-- we saw this lifeless universe in the pages of Superman Beyond. Essentially, universe-51 was killed twice during Countdown:
http://i.imgur.com/VPUivpf.jpg
Nix recreated universe-51(his universe) for a final time at the end of Final Crisis.

So yes, Prime survived a universe-busting detonation, and was sent hurling through the timestream.

And you're right about War Hulk: he didn't push Juggy back. He did stop him dead in his tracks, though, which is still a very impressive 'pushing' feat.

Thor God blast and Hulk is the only things that stopped Juggernaut enchantment. I would rank it above planetary since I can't see Hulk having a hard time pushing one versus stopping Juggernaut enchantment.

Originally posted by Galan007
Monarch's blast did destroy universe-51, but soon thereafter the Monitors recreated it. Solomon then introduced the Morticoccus virus into universe-51, killing all sentient life within it-- we saw this lifeless universe in the pages of Superman Beyond. Essentially, universe-51 was killed twice during Countdown:
http://i.imgur.com/VPUivpf.jpg
Nix recreated universe-51(his universe) for a final time at the end of Final Crisis.

So yes, Prime survived a universe-busting detonation, and was sent hurling through the timestream.

And you're right about War Hulk: he didn't push Juggy back. He did stop him dead in his tracks, though, which is still a very impressive 'pushing' feat.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor God blast and Hulk is the only things that stopped Juggernaut enchantment. I would rank it above planetary since I can't see Hulk having a hard time pushing one versus stopping Juggernaut enchantment.

Let me see if I get this correctly?

You are saying that pushing a planet out of it's orbital trench at the speed of light, with a nudge is easier than to make the Juggernaut take one step back or stop him?

I strongly disagree, That punch in HOTM will most likely stop the Juggernaut, but still was not enough to move the planet out of it's orbital trench.

Originally posted by Galan007
Feats more on the quantifiable side, I'm assuming?

Combat speed: Zoom-- consistently out-speeding ANY versions of Flash represents speed that really cannot be rivaled by anyone, sans massive amps.

Durability to energy attacks: Prime-- tanking anti-matter as well as universe-busting energies. Durability to physical and/or piercing attacks:
classic Juggernaut-- 'nuff said.

Flying speed: Azrael 1M-- flew from Pluto to Mars in a nanosecond. A distance of roughly 3,500,000,000 miles in one billionth of a second. Do the math.

Lifting strength: Superman-- pressed earth-weight for 5 consecutive days non-stop.

Pushing feats: Prime pushed multiple planets across the universe at high speeds with ease, does that count? If not, WAR Hulk pushing Juggernaut back, maybe?

Originally posted by carver9
Thor God blast and Hulk is the only things that stopped Juggernaut enchantment. I would rank it above planetary since I can't see Hulk having a hard time pushing one versus stopping Juggernaut enchantment. I think you want Hulk "pushing" your buttocks! durhulk

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
1) Dodging Batgod.

2) Superman's head still attached to his body after taking Batgod's punch.

3) Almost tagging Batgod.

4) Lifting your mom's car.

5) Moving your mom's car.

All feats performed by no one else than the Man of Steel, of course.

I hope you aren't serious.

OP said trans tier down; that disqualifies the Bat...

Hyperion survived two universes destroying on top of him that completely destroyed everything when he was point blank.

Hyperion > Prime

Originally posted by Badabing
I think you want Hulk "pushing" your buttocks! durhulk

WTF

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Let me see if I get this correctly?

You are saying that pushing a planet out of it's orbital trench at the speed of light, with a nudge is easier than to make the Juggernaut take one step back or stop him?

I strongly disagree, That punch in HOTM will most likely stop the Juggernaut, but still was not enough to move the planet out of it's orbital trench.

I agree with you. Just like the Superman holding the Black hole showing. It was contained, so why does everyone over exaggerate the ft? You get what I'm saying.?




Me and you can become partners one day. We are already heading there.

^ There's a joke there

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you. Just like the Superman holding the Black hole showing. It was contained, so why does everyone over exaggerate the ft? You get what I'm saying.?




Me and you can become partners one day. We are already heading there.

We didn't agree anything on that. You failed to answer any questions I asked...... Just like right now.

If you want to debate feats, we could get a Mod, so you don't try to escape as usual

I still like you, mr virtual simulation

Ultraman lifting the infinite book.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Hyperion survived two universes destroying on top of him that completely destroyed everything when he was point blank.

Hyperion > Prime

Hyperion's performance there pretty much wins the durability and pushing feats simultaneously.

Originally posted by carver9
Me and you can become partners one day. We are already heading there. Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I still like you, mr virtual stimulation You both need to get a room. facepalm

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
We didn't agree anything on that. You failed to answer any questions I asked...... Just like right now.

If you want to debate feats, we could get a Mod, so you don't try to escape as usual

I still like you, mr virtual simulation

You're not ready. Come at me in about a yr when you get your debating game up.

Originally posted by carver9
You're not ready. Come at me in about a yr when you get your debating game up.



as long as you keep me entertained I shall let you live.

Originally posted by Badabing
You both need to get a room. facepalm

Hey! is not my fault that this flirt likes to be everybodys punching bag,

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
also when has War Hulk pushed back the juggernaut? He stopped him, Thor's GB was the one who pushed him back. technically that's opposite acceleration till it reached 0

Originally posted by psycho gundam
technically that's opposite acceleration till it reached 0

Elaborate?

slowing down something is not the same as pushing something back

one requires more

Not slowing down but STOPPING someone.

Originally posted by carver9
Not slowing down but STOPPING someone.


To stop something you have to slow it down first regardless of how sudden or subtle this is done and it is not clear weather this was a full stop in the wwh case or just a slow down

Aaaaaaaaaaand there are better pushing feats than that.

Now, please, grown ups are having a conversation so shhh!!!

What pushing fts are better?

Originally posted by carver9
What pushing fts are better?

Read your own thread buddy, you will find out

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Read your own thread buddy, you will find out

That's not better imo.

Originally posted by carver9
That's not better imo.



I think there is a couple of feats mentioned in here that trump that one.

You know the faster you move an object the more power it requires right?