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Can Quasar take down the Hulk?

No

Yes. Dont see any reason Hulk would even be able to touch him. Quasar could stay in the upper stratosphere and bombard Hulk.

Hulk kills him.

If Quasar fights smart he will win but most likely he won't fight smart.

Quasar always fight smart. he wins I think in the long battle

q SHOULD be able to drain gamma energy a la ss. if he does, he can win. if hulk gets his mitts on him, q is a dead man.

How would Hulk get ahold of him? Quasar can stay 10 miles in the air and theres not a damn thing Hulk can do about it. Quasar 10/10

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
How would Hulk get ahold of him? Quasar can stay 10 miles in the air and theres not a damn thing Hulk can do about it. Quasar 10/10

By blitzing him.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
How would Hulk get ahold of him? Quasar can stay 10 miles in the air and theres not a damn thing Hulk can do about it. Quasar 10/10 Hulk can jump.

which hulk???

have they fought in the past??

Hulk on average

And you even get a healing factor. Your gonna be in a lot of pain for a long time.

Hulk wins. Only someone who has never seen any of Hulk's multiple fights with FTL flying heralds would consider flight and speed to be determinants in a fight with Hulk.

He can thunderclap Thor out of the sky, Quasar is little challenge in comparison. And he easily tags a flying Surfer - infinitely superior in both speed and agility - when leaping at him.

Hulk will win this 10/10. Energy siphoning only works on Savage Hulk, not Green Scar, Armageddon tried it already and failed. As did Rulk with similar disappointment.

As for Healing Factor, you presume too much of Quasar, to necessitate much use of HF from Hulk.


ThunderClap + good leap and grab and then dead Quasar. Rinse and repeat. And repeat. And repeat....

Hulk wins in comics because his opponents who all have a vastly superior powerset act like retards. He is superhumanly fast and at close range his explosive speed would undoubtedly catch Quasar leading to a ground and pound. But if quasar was a good disrance away like I stated there is no reason to believe this is gonna happen. Surfer if actually using his powers would kill Hulk forever in the first few seconds of the "fight". I call it a murder but whatever.

Originally posted by janus77
Hulk wins. Only someone who has never seen any of Hulk's multiple fights with FTL flying heralds would consider flight and speed to be determinants in a fight with Hulk.

He can thunderclap Thor out of the sky, Quasar is little challenge in comparison. And he easily tags a flying Surfer - infinitely superior in both speed and agility - when leaping at him.

Hulk will win this 10/10. Energy siphoning only works on Savage Hulk, not Green Scar, Armageddon tried it already and failed. As did Rulk with similar disappointment.

As for Healing Factor, you presume too much of Quasar, to necessitate much use of HF from Hulk.


ThunderClap + good leap and grab and then dead Quasar. Rinse and repeat. And repeat. And repeat.... nono

^ you know you were thinking it....

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Hulk wins in comics because his opponents who all have a vastly superior powerset act like retards. He is superhumanly fast and at close range his explosive speed would undoubtedly catch Quasar leading to a ground and pound. But if quasar was a good disrance away like I stated there is no reason to believe this is gonna happen. Surfer if actually using his powers would kill Hulk forever in the first few seconds of the "fight". I call it a murder but whatever.

Jack of Hearts was a good distance away from Hulk and got speed blitzed. JOH travels at light speed.

Lol at any Herald killing Hulk in a few seconds if at all. What's the last Hulk comic you read so that I can't start from there posting fts.

I perfectly understand Hulk wins pretty much every time he fights in comics. But a guy whose sole abilities is a healing factor and punching things really hard. He should not be able to beat people who have a plethoranof other powers and who regularly beat entities Hulk wouldnt begin to fight. Thor, Surfer, Sentry, Quasar. I give Hulk thebwin in a brawl whoever he fights. I give him the win over glads, supes, doomsday. Because at the end of the day their strongest attacks is punching stuff hard. As former military and someone who spars with others on a weekly basis I understand that punching hard is not going to get me a win especially if I happened to be sparring with someone who can punch hard as well and also shoots magic blasts and flies and opens portals and etc. etc.

And if someone came up with better reasons as to why Hulk wins other than he hits them. They die. I might be inclined to concede. As it stands though, I firmly believe that Thor, Surfer, Sentry and people like them should beat Hulk and other bricks every time. Without much trouble at all. Unless they brawl like they do in the comics.

And I used to buy Hulk comics in the late 80s and 90s when I was a kid Carver. I used to think he could beat everyone. Then these past couple years I started getting back into it. Have purchased the last few issues of The Incredible Hulk. Then he beat up time. Wont be reading Hulk except for his appearances in the Avengers or something special catches my eye

Your problem with Hulk's victories lies mostly in your failure to grasp that hulk is not "merely a brick", he has always been something far more - and more mysterious.

For one thing, he's always been able to grab and rip energy - pure energy, gamma radiation, Sentry's glowing aura and more. This has allowed him to do things like suspend himself in the air and pummel away at Sentry or rip forcefields with his hands.


Another major problem is that you seriously underestimate Hulk's durability and healing factor. If he just stood there and took punishment without reply, Quasar would die of exhaustion long before Hulk's HF began to wane.

This is a character that tore through Nightmare in his own realm, that fought without respite in Hell and has shown a glimpse of what he can do when unrestrained in HOTM.

Same outcome as in the Juggernaut vs Quasar thread. If BFR is off, Quasar cannot win. But Hulk will never touch Quasar (forget about the FTL travel speeds and energy constructs that can momentarily delay Hulk, Quasar can Quantum Jump whenever Hulk gets too close for comfort). So if Quasar plays it smart, the best possible outcome for him is a draw.

If Hulk gets his hands on him..............Hulk wins.

One more point. Comics are not written by former military officers, physicists (theoretical or otherwise), astronomers, engineers etc...

They posit a world that only has tangential relation to ours in its 'mechanics', and in Marvel's Universe, Hulk punches out time. Accept it, embrace it, move on .

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I perfectly understand Hulk wins pretty much every time he fights in comics. But a guy whose sole abilities is a healing factor and punching things really hard. He should not be able to beat people who have a plethoranof other powers and who regularly beat entities Hulk wouldnt begin to fight. Thor, Surfer, Sentry, Quasar. I give Hulk thebwin in a brawl whoever he fights. I give him the win over glads, supes, doomsday. Because at the end of the day their strongest attacks is punching stuff hard. As former military and someone who spars with others on a weekly basis I understand that punching hard is not going to get me a win especially if I happened to be sparring with someone who can punch hard as well and also shoots magic blasts and flies and opens portals and etc. etc.

And if someone came up with better reasons as to why Hulk wins other than he hits them. They die. I might be inclined to concede. As it stands though, I firmly believe that Thor, Surfer, Sentry and people like them should beat Hulk and other bricks every time. Without much trouble at all. Unless they brawl like they do in the comics.

Hulk has more abilities than just punching things. That's what you are missing.

Originally posted by janus77
One more point. Comics are not written by former military officers, physicists (theoretical or otherwise), astronomers, engineers etc...

They posit a world that only has tangential relation to ours in its 'mechanics', and in Marvel's Universe, Hulk punches out time. Accept it, embrace it, move on .
NEVER!!!!!!!!! >

Don't forget the QZ is featureless and lacking gravity. Without flight, he'd just be drifting there forever.

Originally posted by zopzop
NEVER!!!!!!!!! >

Don't forget the QZ is featureless and lacking gravity. Without flight, he'd just be drifting there forever.
He'd thunderclap Quasar to death regardless.

Either Quasar gains such distance that he self-bfrs or he dies .







Seriously though, Hulk's ThunderClaps cover some range and I doubt they would fail to affect Quasar.

I understand that, but in the comics they also fight like idiots. These are forum battles and a little different. And there is no reason to be condescending because I disagree about something. I can "grasp" such complicated ideas thank you very much. I just am not interested in reading about a character who can punch time because he got more angry. So I choose to no longer purchase his solo comic.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I understand that, but in the comics they also fight like idiots. These are forum battles and a little different. And there is no reason to be condescending because I disagree about something. I can "grasp" such complicated ideas thank you very much. I just am not interested in reading about a character who can punch time because he got more angry. So I choose to no longer purchase his solo comic. I didn't mean to be condescending, just tired of people whining (and they do, though that is not what you did), that "Hulk is a brick and cannot beat versatility".

There's a point at which it because meaningless to use a character in a vs fight, when you disregard everything - literally every herald fight - in comics regarding that character. To the service of some desired "proper" reality that would not work the way it does in comics.

So sorry that I came across condescending, I just wanted to cut to the point. Hulk isn't a brick and the only way to force an argument that he is, is to basically create a character that bears no actual resemblance to the one established by Marvel.

Originally posted by carver9
Jack of Hearts was a good distance away from Hulk and got speed blitzed. JOH travels at light speed.

Lol at any Herald killing Hulk in a few seconds if at all. What's the last Hulk comic you read so that I can't start from there posting fts.

Are you saying Hulk is faster than the speed of light?

Originally posted by Odekahn
Are you saying Hulk is faster than the speed of light?
He clearly is, he time travels by smashing so, ofcourse!

Originally posted by janus77
He clearly is, he time travels by smashing so, ofcourse!

/facepalm

Originally posted by Odekahn
/facepalm
I'll smash you into 1955!

http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt11/Odekahn/60A52D63-07C5-4D52-9C7C-1907C1FDA71D.jpg

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/timetravel-bill-and-teds-excellent-adventure-590x350.jpg

Originally posted by Odekahn
Are you saying Hulk is faster than the speed of light?

What I'm saying is Hulk hits his target and I have no idea how fast current Hulk is. His speed fts are insane. The guy just outpaced time stop.

Originally posted by ODG
Hulk can jump. With a Giant miss. Hulk can't fly or change directions so he would be a sitting duck in the air.

Looks like he is changing direction during this scene.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/Mobile%20Uploads/snapshot3_zpsf8f6b1d0.jpg.html

Originally posted by janus77
I didn't mean to be condescending, just tired of people whining (and they do, though that is not what you did), that "Hulk is a brick and cannot beat versatility".

There's a point at which it because meaningless to use a character in a vs fight, when you disregard everything - literally every herald fight - in comics regarding that character. To the service of some desired "proper" reality that would not work the way it does in comics.

So sorry that I came across condescending, I just wanted to cut to the point. Hulk isn't a brick and the only way to force an argument that he is, is to basically create a character that bears no actual resemblance to the one established by Marvel. so hulk is more versatile then superman? The hulk has other powers besides strength,healing? Oh didn't Zeus short out his healing factor. Hulk, supes, wolverine, batman, iron man wins fights because they are popular and make their respective companies money. Thor, Ss, bbolt, Dr strange, ghost rider, sentry should beat them each and EVERY TIME and on a forums they do fck debating characters we using logic up in here *****. Now yes hulk will only lose this fight due to bfr quasar do not have the fire power to put hulk down

Mighty Adam...

Yes, Hulk has more powers than Healing and Strength.

Hulk wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Mighty Adam...

Yes, Hulk has more powers than Healing and Strength. tell me and don't say thunderclap its still strength based. What powers do hulk have that I haven't seen in my 26 years of living.

Originally posted by ODG
XXVII. HULK ABILITIES


ADAPTIVE EVOLUTION

Last but not least, the Hulk developed a variety of superpower abilities separate and distinct from his super strength. Having emerged from underwater, Banner discovers that his body can develop glands which produce an oxygenated perfluorocarbon emulsion that fills his lungs, equalizes pressure, permits him to breathe fluid, and avoids decompression and nitrogen narcosis. From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #77:
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkEvolution03.jpg

These adaptive evolutionary abilities are revisited in Incredible Hulk vol.3 #9:
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkEvolution.jpg

S.H.I.E.L.D. data notes "that his mutation will somehow alter his body to adapt" even to a zero-atmosphere environment like outer space. From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #90:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkEvolution04v290.jpg

So hanging out on top of a space ship and fighting space pirates without a suit is not beyond his ability. From World War Hulk Prologue: Worldbreaker #1:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkEvolution05WWHPrologue1.jpg


ENERGY PROJECTION

Hulk's body not only feeds on gamma radiation, it emits it. And Hulk's used it in defensive and offensive ways. Here, he "expends his almost limitless energy and power, his temperature rises to an unimaginable degree," melting his icy prison in Incredible Hulk #5:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkGammaProjection01005.jpg

An uncontrollable torrent of gamma radiation ends up incinerating bullets in mid-flight in Incredible Hulk #446. The amount of radiation he projects is so lethal, it instantly kills a handler who exposes his suit and even melts a containment unit that would smother a nuclear warhead:
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When he approaches Worldbreaker levels, that gamma radiation can be projected for miles around. He can even direct it as a powerful blast and decimate city-sized spaceships. From World War Hulk #5 and Incredible Hulks #632:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkGammaProjection05WWH5.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkGammaProjection06632.jpg
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SUPERNATURAL SENSES

One of the more bizarre powers Hulk has manifested is an ability to see supernatural forms. Dr. Strange notes, "Something in the Hulk's warped nature enables him to see and hear my astral self." From Marvel Feature #1:
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http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkSense.jpg

These supernatural senses are revisited in Incredible Hulk #166 and 370:
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In fact, the Hulk is able to concentrate and communicate on the supernatural plane. This astounds Dr. Strange, "I've long known the giant's brutish brain was somehow strangely attuned to my mystic vibrations -- but, now for the first time, the Hulk's mind has called out to me," from Defenders #12:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkSense04Defenders12.jpg

This ability may or may not be related to an apparently supernatural sense of direction. When separated from Banner, the Hulk is able to track him down no matter how far away he is. From Incredible Hulk #130:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkSense01130.jpg

Doc Sampson references the supernatural when Hulk revisits the original gamma bombsite, "There's something about this place. Some almost mystical link." From Incredible Hulk #314 and revisited in Incredible Hulk #451 and 460:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkSense05314.jpg
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While he tunnels deep underground, Vision notes, "It would appear the Hulk's bearings are correct. His sense of direction borders on the supernatural." From Incredible Hulk #445:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Powers/HulkSense07445.jpg

Superspeed (FTL), jumping/flying, adapting, energy absorption, energy projection, time manipulation, shapeshifting, anger management

The energy release is dope. But if its so powerful why was reed just laying there next to him. I don't see him winning fights with it unless they expand on its capabilities.

Hulk

Same as vs GL

In a comic Hulk would probably win. If Quasar fights smart, the way he did quite often in his own series, he should take a comfortable majority.

BFR to deep space, the middle of the sun, a black hole, or the QZ should be the easiest option. Gamma drain might work, or something along the lines of anti-gamma like the U-Foes used to defeat Hulk. Or use anti-gravitons to make Hulk float in the air. Or blind Hulk and make him cry.

Originally posted by basilisk
In a comic Hulk would probably win. If Quasar fights smart, the way he did quite often in his own series, he should take a comfortable majority.

BFR to deep space, the middle of the sun, a black hole, or the QZ should be the easiest option. Gamma drain might work, or something along the lines of anti-gamma like the U-Foes used to defeat Hulk. Or use anti-gravitons to make Hulk float in the air. Or blind Hulk and make him cry.

Its already been stated. Hulk can jump. Quasar has no chance.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Hulk can jump.
Extremely fast.

And Quasar can fly..extremely fast. I have no problem conceding the fact that Quasar loses due to Janus and Carvers explanation. But Hulk has the power of jumping fast is not gonna cut it.

Depends. By "Extremely fast" what is meant is that Hulk does jump (with accuracy), fast enough to catch JoH, Surfer and any other herald, whilst they're in motion/attempting to evade him.

Also, if you want an idea of a lower bound, to his leaping speeds as Green Scar, just read Planet Hulk. He jumped from Sakaar to its moon, unaided.

That means he was faster than escape velocity on a planet where he was weakened. A planet that was twice the size of Earth and presumably had an increased gravitational force as a result.

His standing jumps are fast enough to catch out heralds, always have been. And his reaction speed, on-panel, is good enough to tag FTL attacks.


EDIT.

It makes perfect sense for Hulk to be a speedster, just that it's never been explicitly stated on-panel.

With the kinds of strength feats he has and the amount of energy he outputs, he should be able to propel himself, via leaps and jumps, at speeds approaching (and maybe exceeding) light.

Im just saying. Going "Hulk can jump" is kind of a lazy explanation.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Im just saying. Going "Hulk can jump" is kind of a lazy explanation.
I think it goes back to the point I made earlier. People don't like the character because they have a preconception that he's just "really, really strong" and "versatility beats strength".

He's much more than strength and he's versatile enough to counter most heralds without trouble.


Also, his durability, strength and hf are being grossly underrated when people put forward the notion that he would get overloaded by Quasar's attacks or that his ThunderClaps wouldn't affect Quasar etc ... It's much simpler just to leave it at "Hulk can jump".

Quasar can moniter the Hulk's capabilities.
Hulk would have a hard time pulling out a surprise.

Originally posted by mighty adam
The energy release is dope. But if its so powerful why was reed just laying there next to him. I don't see him winning fights with it unless they expand on its capabilities. He was trying immensely hard to rein in his rage, strength and gamma projection in World War Hulk. When he obliterates Arm'Chedon's city-sized ships during Heart of the Monster, he's holding back that much less.

Show me scans saying hulk is ftl running or jumping and I'll build a shrine to him

Originally posted by ODG
Arm'Chedon's city-sized ships for scale:

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/troyjanship.jpg

smash-force baby

Originally posted by ODG
He was trying immensely hard to rein in his rage, strength and gamma projection in World War Hulk. When he obliterates Arm'Chedon's city-sized ships during Heart of the Monster, he's holding back that much less.
Thing is you mightn't have even have noticed them being destroyed at first glance as it seemed almost secondary to the rest of the action, 3 city sized ships (and apparently "the rest of the continent" would've followed) were disintegrated just from his Broly 2.0 burst.