Who is fast enough to dodge lightning???

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carver9
Title speaks for itself. What character is fast enough to dodge lightning.?

Supra
Goku via instant transmission

Q99
If you have a little warning? Buncha characters.


Most 'lightning dodging' is not 'physically see it coming, then start moving,' after all.

Based
Apparently Zuko.

BloodRain
Becomes possible to anyone with Mach 180 and up feats.


Then again as Q99 said most fictions have character aim-dodging lightning, like knowing a bolt is about to be launched at them. That or if the character sees the bolt from a notable distance and moves by the time it reaches them.

For instance: A Mach 180 lightning bolt goes from sky to ground and a guy sidesteps it. If that guy saw the bolt when it was 1km away and it takes that time to move a single meter, means he would only have to be moving at Mach 0.2. Around a mere 150mph.

All depends on the situation really.

Demonic Phoenix
^ Pretty much. Reaction feats are directly dependent upon the time it'll take for an attack to hit, and not the attack's speed itself. It's from there that speed can be calculated.

cdtm
Originally posted by BloodRain
Becomes possible to anyone with Mach 180 and up feats.


Then again as Q99 said most fictions have character aim-dodging lightning, like knowing a bolt is about to be launched at them. That or if the character sees the bolt from a notable distance and moves by the time it reaches them.

For instance: A Mach 180 lightning bolt goes from sky to ground and a guy sidesteps it. If that guy saw the bolt when it was 1km away and it takes that time to move a single meter, means he would only have to be moving at Mach 0.2. Around a mere 150mph.

All depends on the situation really.

I can agree with this...

Talking about reacting only after the lightning is on its way, something like Val Armorr dodging lightning at point blank range is different from moving out of the way from 1 kilometer's distance, certainly.

As far as aim dodging goes, that's kind of a "dime a dozen" skill, though. All it takes, is being faster then someone can track, which almost any street leveler worth his salt is.

NemeBro
Any sufficiently powerful DBZ character.

There Carver. That is the question you were really asking, and we both know it. We can close the thread.

Damborgson
Originally posted by NemeBro
Any sufficiently powerful DBZ character.

There Carver. That is the question you were really asking, and we both know it. We can close the thread.

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carver9
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I really wanted to know if anyone can dodge it. No aim dodging either.

SSJGGogeta
Anyone Zuko level plus. thumb up

TheTyrant
Kakashi cut actual lightning from the sky with his raikiri or chidori according to data books and Gai. So he can do it.

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Kakashi cut actual lightning from the sky with his raikiri or chidori according to data books and Gai. So he can do it.

When did he do that? In a video game? lol

Anyway, Kakashi could dodge lightning easily with sharingan, as shown when he fought Kakazu. Plenty of people can dodge lightning that are weaker and slower than Kakashi. thumb up

TheTyrant
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7671/light1hd.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6249/light2q.png

And Sharingan doesn't help when there's no chakra involved, so...

DarkRaiden
Kakashi never dodged natural lightning, which is said to be faster and more powerful than chakra lightning. As for who can? Didn't Luffy do that against enel? Also I'd say some S-class, high level YYH demons.

TheTyrant
Kakashi physically reacted to natural lightning.

KingD19
He cut a natural lightning bolt in half. It wouldn't be impressive or even really noteworthy if he just chopped through a lightning jutsu.

NemeBro
It might have been more impressive if he actually did so on-panel.

yungz22
Kakashi's cutting lighting feat is a myth that has yet to be confirmed

SSJGGogeta
Originally posted by TheTyrant
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7671/light1hd.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6249/light2q.png

And Sharingan doesn't help when there's no chakra involved, so...

Keyword; "Legend" thumb up

First image don't work. At least not for me.

chasedown
s class demons YYH, DBZ, some S-cry-ed characters

TheTyrant
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Keyword; "Legend" thumb up

First image don't work. At least not for me. https://starkana.org/manga-img/741/27165/Naruto%20-%20114%20-%2003.jpg

God Cloth Seiya
Based on anime logic anybody could dodge lightning.

NemeBro
Originally posted by TheTyrant
https://starkana.org/manga-img/741/27165/Naruto%20-%20114%20-%2003.jpg There's still no on-panel proof, lol.

dadudemon
Originally posted by NemeBro
There's still no on-panel proof, lol.

I think it is obvious that it is hyperbole. Sakura is supposed to be the normal "smart one" n'stuff and she thinks it is stupid that someone can cut a particle beam. It's like ****ing air that has a charge. You can't cut it: only redirect it.


It is almost like saying you can cut the air. Stupid. That's why Sakura is thinking what she's thinking.

yungz22
Originally posted by TheTyrant
https://starkana.org/manga-img/741/27165/Naruto%20-%20114%20-%2003.jpg

have you ever heard of the concept of hyperbole.

its also a myth/legend that he did that it was never confirmed

TheTyrant
Originally posted by dadudemon
I think it is obvious that it is hyperbole. Sakura is supposed to be the normal "smart one" n'stuff and she thinks it is stupid that someone can cut a particle beam. It's like ****ing air that has a charge. You can't cut it: only redirect it.


It is almost like saying you can cut the air. Stupid. That's why Sakura is thinking what she's thinking. This is Naruto where people can use their chakra to become gods. What you said doesn't apply.

And as for hyperbole:

http://i.imgur.com/DKzjepi.jpg

^ According to the source, you need to have both Mangekyo Sharingan in order to summon Susano'o. Itachi had only one eye opened as Kirin was about to reach him.

http://dl01.mangashare.com/manga/Naruto/391/008.jpg

So if Itachi's a lightning timer on his death bed, then there's nothing to suggest that Kakashi could not replicate the same feat.

chasedown
Originally posted by TheTyrant
This is Naruto where people can use their chakra to become gods. What you said doesn't apply.

And as for hyperbole:

http://i.imgur.com/DKzjepi.jpg

^ According to the source, you need to have both Mangekyo Sharingan in order to summon Susano'o. Itachi had only one eye opened as Kirin was about to reach him.

http://dl01.mangashare.com/manga/Naruto/391/008.jpg

So if Itachi's a lightning timer on his death bed, then there's nothing to suggest that Kakashi could not replicate the same feat.


Itachi had plenty of time to react to kirin so iwouldnt really call him a lightning dodger as he already knew what was coming

TheTyrant
Did you even read what I said? Itachi didn't have both of his eyes opened which would be necessary for summoning Susano'o.

BloodRain
Doesn't say eyes open, just that you need the eyes. Itachi still has both of his.

Itachi was blind and still using Susanoo, so its not the case.

KingD19
Madara used Susanoo without even having eyes.

wakkawakkawakka
Even with Itachi pulling up Susanoo to block Kirin he still wasn't fast enough to actually get out the way so he still isn't fast enough to dodge lightning stick out tongue

psycho gundam
Originally posted by BloodRain
Doesn't say eyes open, just that you need the eyes. Itachi still has both of his.

Itachi was blind and still using Susanoo, so its not the case. eyelids > susano'o

TheTyrant
Originally posted by BloodRain
Doesn't say eyes open, just that you need the eyes. Itachi still has both of his.

Itachi was blind and still using Susanoo, so its not the case. Are you going by the art? Because Itachi was still able to see and nothing was said about him having gone blind. For instance, he was able to see when Orochimaru appeared out of the huge snake's body ("you finally show yourself"wink. He also 'lent' his eyes to Sasuke upon his death (see when Obito was revealing Itachi's past to Sasuke). So how could he do that if he had gone blind at the end and was unable to use his own Sharingan? Also, how does one control Mangekyo Sharingan with their eyes closed? Like Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi both require at least one eye to be open, so why would Susano'o, the third ability granted by the Uchiha eyes, be any different? Another thing to note is that Susano'o's build-up is fairly quick (Itachi set up the incomplete version instantly after it was destroyed by Kirin) and we didn't it being in the process of creation while Kirin was directed towards him. I'd post the scans, but not on a computer right now so

Originally posted by KingD19
Madara used Susanoo without even having eyes.
And Madara's obviously a special case since all the shit he's done to his body. Because him being able to summon Susano'o without his eyes doesn't match anything that Kishimoto has given us about Mangekyo Sharingan or Sharingan in general.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Even with Itachi pulling up Susanoo to block Kirin he still wasn't fast enough to actually get out the way so he still isn't fast enough to dodge lightning stick out tongue
He obviously didn't need to dodge it. Kirin didn't do any visible damage to him, it only destroyed his cloak.

KingD19
Originally posted by TheTyrant


He obviously didn't need to dodge it. Kirin didn't do any visible damage to him, it only destroyed his cloak.

The point though is that he didn't show the speed to dodge it.

TheTyrant
Originally posted by KingD19
The point though is that he didn't show the speed to dodge it. But there was no need for him to show the speed to dodge it. That doesn't prove anything in regards to Itachi's speed or reflexes.

KingD19
If he could dodge it, why would he bother using Susanoo? Was he just feeling lazy?

TheTyrant
Originally posted by KingD19
If he could dodge it, why would he bother using Susanoo? Was he just feeling lazy? Because he was ready to die and wanted to show Sasuke what Mangekyo Sharingan are capable of as well as make the fight more believable?

KingD19
Regardless. What I'm asking is did he showcase the speed to dodge the lightning called down by Kirin? If he didn't, you can't claim he has the speed to dodge it.

BloodRain
@Ty: Not just the art. He was already well in the process of losing his sight. Not long earlier we saw Sasuke through Itachi's point of view and it was heavily degraded, and we know using the M.S wrecks the eyes the more you use it or the more potent the usage. Like how Sasuke's eyes were starting to go after his extensive usages, so its not unlikely at all that the already near blind Itachi who was already using M.S lost his sight after the final use of Susanoo. There was even him stating he needs Sasuke's eyes to.. something to do with getting back the light.

And Oro? People are known for sensing chakra, especially someonehe's been around for so long. Plus he knows about the curse mark.

chasedown
Originally posted by TheTyrant
But there was no need for him to show the speed to dodge it. That doesn't prove anything in regards to Itachi's speed or reflexes.


Itachi got hit by a shuriken litterally in the begining of the fight. are you saying that shuriken are fastrer than lightning.

TheCompanions
A, Naruto and Might Guy i would all say going dodge lightning and not aim dodge. All Powered up of course.

atv2
The giant-sized man with short legs, wearing red with earrings and a Mohawk.

Sacred 117
Gajeel from Fairy Tail actually intercepted lightning rather early in the series. Hell, he was facedown behind Laxus just as he fired it at Levy.

This can probably scale to other characters, if you want to look at it that way.

Astner
http://i.imgur.com/bBtszChl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/uffc5CJl.jpg

TedKordJRBOSS
Minato

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