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Taking history and feats into account, who wins the battle of archers?

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Hawkeye. Both have ridiculous aim but Hawkeye has the better stats and the more powerful arrows from what I've seen.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hawkeye. Both have ridiculous aim but Hawkeye has the better stats and the more powerful arrows from what I've seen.

Agreed

What an original thread idea.

Hawkeye IMO.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hawkeye. Both have ridiculous aim but Hawkeye has the better stats and the more powerful arrows from what I've seen.

Start reading some DCnU GA. IMMEDIATELY. A lot of Ollie's impressive showings (like getting shot in the head and still living) is under a different writer, but Lemire's GA is one of the best books on the stand and Ollie (he used to anyway) had an arrow for pretty much anything.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Agreed


You too.

Ollie wins.

Ollie got this one.

The high hard shaft (Hawkeye)

TBH, I think it could go either way.

People haven't actually seen the ridiculous crap Ollie has pulled off over the years.

Aged DCNu Ollie is freaking amazing but Hawkeye seems to be a beast as well

olie has punch glove arrows. he wins

Honestly depends on who writes Ollie.

Under Grell Ollie would take it even though he never had trick arrows. Quite frankly he just didn't need them. When a sniper had a bead on him that required a telescopic sight to get Ollie just put a normal arrow into the sight and knocked the sniper out with the gun but of his own riffle.

If that hack Winick is writing him then Clint cleans his clock.

With almost anyone else as writer it's an even money bet.

Hawk eye for the win.

It can definitely go either way depending on the writer.

Both, this is one of those matches were a true 50/50 is the end result.

Nah.

Clint wins.

Originally posted by beatboks
Honestly depends on who writes Ollie.

Under Grell Ollie would take it even though he never had trick arrows. Quite frankly he just didn't need them. When a sniper had a bead on him that required a telescopic sight to get Ollie just put a normal arrow into the sight and knocked the sniper out with the gun but of his own riffle.

If that hack Winick is writing him then Clint cleans his clock.

With almost anyone else as writer it's an even money bet.

We're using current Ollie. Read the GA series. It's friggen awesome. Outsider war coming up. Should put Ollie over the edge.

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Originally posted by Existere
Nah.

Renner wins.

Originally posted by Existere
Nah.

Clint wins.

Agreed.

I don't know which of the two has better aim as both are ridiculous (Hawkeye shooting a Sniper bullet out of the air though is the best feat I've seen yet) but Clint has more powerful arrows then I've seen Ollie use (Explosive arrows, Pym Particle Arrows, Asgardian Arrows etc.) and his physical stats as well as martial art skills are a lot closer to guys like Captain America then Green Arrow's nowadays. Keep in mind, I haven't read the newest Green Arrow series so maybe he's gotten a push.

Under Bendis, Hawkeye was just silly though tbh. Him piercing Thanos' skin was....well, unexpected.

Also doesn't Hawkeye still have Pym Particles in his system for growth in times of emergency? Here's the scan but I don't remember what happened afterward:
http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp176/Strafe_Prower/PymParticles.png

Here's his last fight with Captain America where he actually won through a trick arrow back when he was blind or whatever:
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That's a better feat then anything Ollie has ever done in my book.

cap gave him this one for old time's shake

Ollie (DCnU) has similar feats of taking down "superman level" foes in his run, too. He also tangled with a bot who easily through a loading dock at him.

Search function sucks use google next time

Originally posted by abhilegend
People haven't actually seen the ridiculous crap Ollie has pulled off over the years.

I still can't forgive Hawkeye for loosing to Gambit.

ARROW

Green Arrow wins, with ease.

50/50 both chars have great feats. But i put my money on oliver

Originally posted by The Sorrow

He has beaten both hawkman and batman h2h. That's better than anything Clint has done.

Here he beats Batman in pure h2h though Bruce is holding back.

http://i.imgur.com/ZIqQliHs.jpg http://i.imgur.com/iSqgTQFs.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xS25hQEs.jpg http://i.imgur.com/s5YjQXBs.jpg http://i.imgur.com/YfFZq3bs.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xmxN9BTs.jpg

Ollie doesn't need fancy arrows to beat somebody and he became even better after receiving training from Deathstroke's teacher.

Or the time he owned the Prometheus.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5136/gavsprometheusis6.jpg
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Does the new Ollie still 'carry the steel'?

Traditional Ollie probably has the best pure shooting feats with regards to distance accuracy, but would have lost to Clint HTH and in an overall fight. But with Ollie's Batman-like power-up in skill, I don't know about a fight anymore. And I'm not sure Ollie's pure shooting feats are as obscene anymore.

Both are cool, both are good, it's a first draw first kills fight, 50-50.

Ollie wins.

I was going to say Green Arrow but did Hawkeye really shoot a sniper bullet out of the air? Mid flight? If so that's an insane accuracy and speed feat.

Need more info on that

Alright, I've looked around and can't find anything on Clint shooting a sniper bullet out of the air, so I'd say Ollie but if that feat does exist I'd sway the other way.

WTF a DC char that is winning against his Marvel counterpart.. on KMC.. THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!

Originally posted by SamZED
WTF a DC char that is winning against his Marvel counterpart.. on KMC.. THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!! I noticed that too, but it only seems to specific people rather than the entire forum. I won't call anyone out but they know who they are. Thankfully I obsessing over battle forums a while ago.

They're basically the same character.

Originally posted by SamZED
WTF a DC char that is winning against his Marvel counterpart.. on KMC.. THIS IS MADNESS!!!!!!

Blue Beetle would stomp Spiderman too.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Blue Beetle would stomp Spiderman too. Blue Beetle would become a deputy head of Tony Stark's newest AAA except in this case it doesn't stand for "Alcoholics Anonymous Association" but for "Armored Ass-kicked Association".

Seriously though, he is considered to be DC's Spider-man counterpart? Wasn't aware of that. BB makes me think of someone like Guyver.

Originally posted by SamZED
Blue Beetle would become a deputy head of Tony Stark's newest AAA except in this case it doesn't stand for "Alcoholics Anonymous Association" but for "Armored Ass-kicked Association".

Seriously though, he is considered to be DC's Spider-man counterpart? Wasn't aware of that. BB makes me think of someone like Guyver.

That's the worst part.

The Beetle who stomps is Ted Kord.

He is a true Gargan level opponent.