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BA has access to divine powers
Superman is bloodlusted - is not holding back
Both at peak strength
no prep
no bfr
no CIS or PIS

who wins?

Mid Herald vs bloodlusted High Herald? This isn't gonna end well for BA.

Originally posted by zopzop
Mid Herald vs bloodlusted High Herald? This isn't gonna end well for BA.

BA is a mid herald? what are you smoking

Adam wins.

What do you mean by divine powers?

Originally posted by kgkg
What do you mean by divine powers?

His godly magic powers

Originally posted by Firefly218
His godly magic powers Ohh I thought you meant he had some type of amp.

So pretty much BA vs bloodlust Superman?

Superman wins.

Superman duh

BA is faster and stronger - he actually already fought a pissed off supes and, despite no intention of actually fighting him, BA held him off pretty well.

Originally posted by Firefly218
BA is faster and stronger - Even if this was true you would be hard pressed trying to prove BA's superiority over someone with Superman's feats.

Originally posted by Firefly218
BA is faster and stronger - he actually already fought a pissed off supes and, despite no intention of actually fighting him, BA held him off pretty well.

You must be new here.

Superman never loses in this forum.

He's KMC god

He is our savior.

looking at supermans feats, one could easily see the trouble he has against magic. Oh right, and Adams strongsuit is magic!!!

BA smashes supes with his magic fists

Originally posted by Firefly218
BA is faster and stronger - he actually already fought a pissed off supes and, despite no intention of actually fighting him, BA held him off pretty well.
Oh really? How did they both agree that superman's punch here would end the fight when he finally had enough of adam.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AC831VSBLACKADAM9.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AC831VSBLACKADAM10.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AC831VSBLACKADAM11.jpg

What gave you the idea that Adam was stronger and faster? The slowest flash, jay garrick was blitzing him.

Originally posted by Magic Joe
You must be new here.

Superman never loses in this forum.

He's KMC god
You never went in a surfer vs superman thread where he loses 10/10?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh really? How did they both agree that superman's punch here would end the fight when he finally had enough of adam.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AC831VSBLACKADAM9.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AC831VSBLACKADAM10.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AC831VSBLACKADAM11.jpg

What gave you the idea that Adam was stronger and faster? The slowest flash, jay garrick was blitzing him.

Pretty sure he was saying let's end the fight, not agreeing he was about to get knocked out or something.

And he did indeed take a big risk, he was about to take a punch from Superman to the back of the head.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You never went in a surfer vs superman thread where he loses 10/10?

No, I went into the thread where Surfer was winning 100/10

Originally posted by Damborgson
Pretty sure he was saying let's end the fight, not agreeing he was about to get knocked out or something.

And he did indeed take a big risk, he was about to take a punch from Superman to the back of the head.
Superman said "let's end this" and he agreed to it.

He would've been KTFO. All out superman is damn scary.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman said "let's end this" and he agreed to it.

He would've been KTFO. All out superman is damn scary.

Yes, end the encounter. You don't really think Adam was saying "end me" do you? Or am I not quite understanding what you're trying to say?

With a punch to the back of the head, very likely.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Oh really? How did they both agree that superman's punch here would end the fight when he finally had enough of adam.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AC831VSBLACKADAM9.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AC831VSBLACKADAM10.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AC831VSBLACKADAM11.jpg

BA was holding back against superman big time and still held him off. I do admit that supes has much better feats, but that does not make him superior to BA.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Yes, end the encounter. You don't really think Adam was saying "end me" do you? Or am I not quite understanding what you're trying to say?

With a punch to the back of the head, very likely.
Possible. Anyway that's not a normal depiction of Adam. Gail Simone later stated that she thought Adam was stronger than Captain Marvel as Superman states here.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AC831VSBLACKADAM2.jpg

"Blessed with all the powers of captain marvel AND MORE."

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_AC831VSBLACKADAM4.jpg

"Hits harder than Captain Marvel too." She later apologized when she learned that Adam is equal to Cap in strength.

People don't realize that this issue further established that Superman is stronger than average Captain Marvel/Black Adam even while holding back.

Originally posted by Firefly218
BA was holding back against superman big time and still held him off. I do admit that supes has much better feats, but that does not make him superior to BA.
Superman was holding back too and Adam's all out punch at the beginning when Psycho controlled him had no effect on superman except knocking him back. Superman wasn't holding back as much as he does near humans, that doesn't mean he was going all out.

Originally posted by Firefly218
I do admit that supes has much better feats, but that does not make him superior to BA.


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Black Adam is to Superman what Terrax is to Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman said "let's end this" and he agreed to it.

He would've been KTFO. All out superman is damn scary. Ask WW his scary he is. Guy was clutching his throat at the end of their skirmish.

Superman.

lol @ people going off topic and trying to use Sacrifice. Desperation abounds.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman.

lol @ people going off topic and trying to use Sacrifice. Desperation abounds.
Yup. Its quan after all.

This doesn't mean that Gail thought Superman could end the fight with any punch, just that if BA took one to the back of the head without defending himself he'd be in trouble.

With PIS off, Adam wins easily since PIS is what keeps the magic weakness so inconsistent. Just like PIS keeps Martian Manhunter from being fried by fire all the time, or Alan Scott from being skewered by wood every fight, etc.

Originally posted by Pillow Biter
This doesn't mean that Gail thought Superman could end the fight with any punch, just that if BA took one to the back of the head without defending himself he'd be in trouble.

With PIS off, Adam wins easily since PIS is what keeps the magic weakness so inconsistent. Just like PIS keeps Martian Manhunter from being fried by fire all the time, or Alan Scott from being skewered by wood every fight, etc.
What? Magic is a vulnerability of superman, not outright crippling like kryptonite and it has never been a factor in a superman/cap fight outside a single time in S/B and even in that comic Superman took several punches from Cap with just a nose bleed.

Originally posted by Bentley
Black Adam is to Superman what Terrax is to Silver Surfer.

What Kang is to Doom.

Hmm...yeah maybe no PIS still won't define Superman's exact degree of weakness to magic.

OTOH it will mean that Black Adam will use as much magic as he can, all the time, in the most effective ways he can.

But I agree, the degree of weakness Superman has to magic is all over the place.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What Kang is to Doom.

You must be the biggest Terrax/Black Adam fanboy in the universe!


I was expecting this comment from the moment I posted that phrase. I'm disappointed it took so long

Originally posted by Pillow Biter
Hmm...yeah maybe no PIS still won't define Superman's exact degree of weakness to magic.

OTOH it will mean that Black Adam will use as much magic as he can, all the time, in the most effective ways he can.

But I agree, the degree of weakness Superman has to magic is all over the place.
At best its shazam lightning and superman has taken them with as much problem as a wonder woman punch.

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_271_Superman_v2_216_Page_12_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_271_Superman_v2_216_Page_13_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_271_Superman_v2_216_Page_14_Image_0001.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/th_271_Superman_v2_216_Page_15_Image_0001.jpg

Heck he even took several lightning attacks from ****ing shazam himself.

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/superman216i.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/superman216j.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/superman216k.jpg

If superman grabbed him like he did to billy, its game over for him.

Superman.

lol @ Black Adam being mid herald, though.

Yeah, that's laughable.