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Basically who would be considered the top dogs in marvel and dc.

Marvel - LT
DC - Spectre


On average I suppose

I think Silver Surfer got the most recent vote but Hercules defeats him in Twilight of a God so Hercules in a thousand years.

Doom
Kyle

/thread

Surfer. For both.

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer. For both.



I agree with this↑↑

Primal Monitor.

Pre retcon Brothers

Without amps like the IG or HOTU, Protege for Marvel, Prime Monitor for DC.

Marvel Spiderman
DC scooby doo

Stan Lee
Grant Morrison.

^

Originally posted by Golgo13
Primal Monitor.

I wouldn't say that. The supreme being of DC is the writer, as shown in Animal Man for instance (there are others, but Animal Man is a good example).

Id say the Presence should also be above Primal Monitor (even though in an interview, Morrison called it "God" and implied that it's the same thing as the source) only because he's used by a wider variety of writers as being the true "God".

Primal Monitor is a supreme entity featured only in 1 story, kind of like Una in the Warlord series (part of DC), for one.

Originally posted by operator616
kind of like Una in the Warlord series (part of DC), for one. You mean Anu from Warlord #132?:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17161870_1.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17161872_2.jpg

Yeah. Though as i recall Una was stopped in the last issue, but that was only due to a plot device (God-horn).

Anu was stopped by a toot from the God-horn-- the very definition of a ridiculous plot device:
http://imgur.com/B40M19h
http://imgur.com/T1TEPJc
http://imgur.com/qTUuWix
http://imgur.com/4PRFbkJ

Bob Iger and Jeff Bewkes respectively

Should be noted that Warlord did feature a number of powerful beings, it even introduced the abstract Death (in a female form) before Death of the endless was introduced, though she didn't do much.

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer. For both.

Shaddup!

Originally posted by Galan007
Doom
Kyle

/thread

^^ also, just wanted to add: TOAA is not a specific writer or anything, writers/artists change so as does TOAA, that's why Reed's and Ben's bio (2005) specifically say that the FF met the creatorS, despite the fact that they only met 1 (Jack Kirby):

http://i.imgur.com/Yis5z3i.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/eTRW6i1.jpg?1


imo, that says that TOAA represents all writers/artists.

What about the consumer or fans? What happens if they stop buying comics? Could this be the forces beyond the fictional all mighty's power? i also can not understand what makes one omnipotent fictitious character shine above another fictitious omnipotent character. How was Thanos with the HOTU less or more powerful than the way pre retcon Beyonder was initially written, or Thanos with the IG for that matter? How do we as readers step in, and make the distinction?

Originally posted by operator616
^^ also, just wanted to add: TOAA is not a specific writer or anything, writers/artists change so as does TOAA, that's why Reed's and Ben's bio (2005) specifically say that the FF met the creatorS, despite the fact that they only met 1 (Jack Kirby):

http://i.imgur.com/Yis5z3i.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/eTRW6i1.jpg?1


imo, that says that TOAA represents all writers/artists.

TOAA(or any variation of that title) is just a blanket term used in the comic world to describe the RL writers/artists. Essentially, each writer/artist in Marvel and DC is TOAA.

Aside from those you mentioned, Mike Carlin has been the Supreme Being a few times as well:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163106_ManOfSteel75p20.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163217_ManOfSteel75p21.jpg

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163109_Untitled-Scanned-06.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163112_Untitled-Scanned-07.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163115_Untitled-Scanned-08.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163118_Untitled-Scanned-15.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163120_Untitled-Scanned-16.jpg
(You could also consider Eddie Berganza the co-Supreme Being in the above sequence.)

There are several other examples, but the point should be pretty clear.

Iron Fist or Squirrel Girl

"A job for" Superman

Originally posted by Galan007


TOAA(or any variation of that title) is just a blanket term used in the comic world to describe the RL writers/artists. Essentially, each writer/artist in Marvel and DC is TOAA.

Aside from those you mentioned, Mike Carlin has been the Supreme Being a few times as well:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163106_ManOfSteel75p20.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163217_ManOfSteel75p21.jpg

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163109_Untitled-Scanned-06.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163112_Untitled-Scanned-07.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163115_Untitled-Scanned-08.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163118_Untitled-Scanned-15.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163120_Untitled-Scanned-16.jpg
(You could also consider Eddie Berganza the co-Supreme Being in the above sequence.)

There are several other examples, but the point should be pretty clear.

GMG (Grand-Master Galan) has entered the debate. You are all in a losing battle now!

Originally posted by operator616
Should be noted that Warlord did feature a number of powerful beings, it even introduced the abstract Death (in a female form) before Death of the endless was introduced, though she didn't do much.

Such as? Were they all mystic related?

Superman for both

Originally posted by operator616
Not true? well let's see then, Morrison appears as the writer in Animal Man #25, here's some scans from issue 26:

You didn't really understand what I was talking about, when it comes to TOAA - and then you kinda understood it and elaborated on it even further, which is nice I guess, but it still remains the same:

TOAA stands above anything else in terms of fiction, because it's the writer. It is not Morrison, who might have the control over Animal Man at that point, but not over 200 other characters at the same time.
TOAA has the control over everything, because he is a shifting idea.

You can't compare something like that to TOAA.
TOAA is an idea - what happened there was comical relief. It's like when Deadpool left the Marvel universe to kill the writers of his own comic. Was he going to kill TOAA? One could desperately try to make the argument, but that would be stupid. Comical relief.

I always laugh at someone arguing that Marvel's God>DC's God.

Doctor Doom.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Doctor Doom.

Welcome back!

Thanks!

Originally posted by Mindset
so lord rand is out?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Iron Fist or Squirrel Girl

"A job for" Superman not in my heart.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I always laugh at someone arguing that Marvel's God>DC's God.

That's not a problem, because no one on this entire planet takes you seriously.

Edit: Let me correct myself ... No one in the entire solar system takes you seriously.

Second Edit: I forgot to call you "Raj", Raj.

Classic Strange and Classic Fate would be up there

Originally posted by Enzeru
That's not a problem, because no one on this entire planet takes you seriously.

Edit: Let me correct myself ... No one in the entire solar system takes you seriously.

Second Edit: I forgot to call you "Raj", Raj.
Funny coming from you. Your butthurt is almost hilarious. How are things at comicvine?

Originally posted by Stoic
What about the consumer or fans? What happens if they stop buying comics? Could this be the forces beyond the fictional all mighty's power? i also can not understand what makes one omnipotent fictitious character shine above another fictitious omnipotent character. How was Thanos with the HOTU less or more powerful than the way pre retcon Beyonder was initially written, or Thanos with the IG for that matter? How do we as readers step in, and make the distinction?

There are levels of infinity (and in turn, omnipotence), it's been stated many times, here's one explanation from Fantastic Four annual #26:

http://i.imgur.com/qfnoie9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZwTR8Dj.jpg

I mean, look at the definition Marvel has for the term "omnipotence", in its official handbook (v2):

http://i.imgur.com/lNhlw5l.jpg?1

"vast power, although not unlimited"

and you'll notice it classifies Stranger, Celestials, Galactus, Watchers and LT as omnipotent, but we know for a fact that LT is leagues above them all.

It may be that levels of omnipotence refer to the scale upon which characters operate, for example, LT operates in all multiverses (which was actually shown more than once, im not going by 1 statement), while others such as Galactus (mostly) operate on a universal scale.

Who's more powerful between Thanos with the heart of Infinite or Pre retcon Beyonder is debatable, but the IG is well below them both, Marvel: the end even says that Heart of the universe > IG + cosmic cube:

http://i.imgur.com/Dmu62bh.jpg

Also, that's why an infinite universe is contained within a greater infinity (multiverse), and the multiverse itself (along with all others) is contained in the greater infinity (omniverse), from New Exiles #1 letter's page:

http://i.imgur.com/yARZYy7.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/hzXtbIR.jpg?1

Originally posted by Galan007


TOAA(or any variation of that title) is just a blanket term used in the comic world to describe the RL writers/artists. Essentially, each writer/artist in Marvel and DC is TOAA.

Aside from those you mentioned, Mike Carlin has been the Supreme Being a few times as well:
http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163106_ManOfSteel75p20.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163217_ManOfSteel75p21.jpg

http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163109_Untitled-Scanned-06.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163112_Untitled-Scanned-07.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163115_Untitled-Scanned-08.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163118_Untitled-Scanned-15.jpg http://s3d4.turboimagehost.com/t/17163120_Untitled-Scanned-16.jpg
(You could also consider Eddie Berganza the co-Supreme Being in the above sequence.)

There are several other examples, but the point should be pretty clear.

i really do like that superman issue where Mxy meets "the supreme being" (writer).

Originally posted by Golgo13
Such as? Were they all mystic related?

No, not all of them, basically, in the Warlord series, monsters are the most powerful, the last arc of the series is the one which features the most powerful beings (ill get to that in a while), but among some powerful things/beings:

the sword which can sent asunder time and space, from Warlord #34:

http://i.imgur.com/P6gZKHX.jpg

......It can time travel, though this is a concept which is - like many others - featured frequently in the Warlord series, and it should be noted that Warlord #80, for instance, says that there are an infinite number of alternate time-lines/universes:

http://i.imgur.com/D64MavN.jpg?1

There are also 2 extremely powerful wizards who are literally playing "God", they control everything on a chessboard, in the literal sense, as seen in Warlord #35:

http://i.imgur.com/8UtQGbP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bs4ON5T.jpg

Funny how the 2 wizards are Mike and John, you'll realize that the writer's name is Mike Grell and the Letterer's John Costanza. Coincidence? Maybe.

Here's confirmation that those are extra-dimensional omnipresent wizards (special feature inserted in issue 50 which serves as a guide tour to the previous adventures):

http://i.imgur.com/4ySlIsT.jpg?1



There's also some Nameless gods/demons (heh, which reminds me that DC has also another supreme being referenced in the martian manhunter v1 mini, called the Unnameable One) which when invoked tear apart the fabric of time-space, Warlord #49:

http://i.imgur.com/wYMlRTe.jpg?1

And a backup story featuring Claw the Unconquered (associated with in one of the issue shows time-space melting, then restored:

http://i.imgur.com/9uBJiyS.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/WvqJTSO.jpg

This dimension has 15 worlds, 7 to each light and dark, and 1 neutral.

There's also the Evil One, who's is the literal personification of evil, though he mostly never reaches his peak power, and even when he's destroyed in Warlord #66 (because his power source - his book - got destroyed), it's stated that he'll return because evil exist many forms:

http://i.imgur.com/gddw9k9.jpg?1

which is true, Evil One did return later, indirectly.

Death (Abstract) was also featured several times, introduced at the beginning of the series, and her last appearance was in Warlord #98, which was around the time the COIE was taking place, after that, Death of the endless was introduced, and basically hinted that all gods of mythologies/beliefs in DC are part of the endless in different forms.


There's also the Wizard king of new atlantis (Cykroth back then, who was later defeated because his power was drained to creating some sort of universe in Travis' mind...) who's associated with the evil that eats the universe, Warlord #96:

http://i.imgur.com/7V03Q4u.jpg?1

There are others like Wralf, V'zarr Hagar Zinn, Khnathaiti, a helmet which grants "limitless power" to the user, etc.. but meh, last arc is by far the most important one, especially power-wise.



-----

Now the last arc does feature extremely powerful beings, Galan already posted the Una/Anu stuff, here's some other beings from the same issue (Warlord #132):

Ea:

http://i.imgur.com/gm2PMMz.jpg

Tiamat:

http://i.imgur.com/nb9h9dy.jpg

Yk'kphat:

http://i.imgur.com/VRxTv32.jpg

Ningal:

http://i.imgur.com/ROuCIxT.jpg

--

Should be noted: while only nine planes are referenced (when Una created the universe) there is a tenth one which is the very incarnation of evil, as seen in Warlord #114:

http://i.imgur.com/4c4xktv.jpg?1

--


Another thing: Some people who read Warlord might be confused as to what the Skartaris is, because first it's referred to being within the hollow earth (this is a scan before the crisis was concluded):

http://i.imgur.com/UMn2SDC.jpg?1

However later this was changed to to Skartaris being an independent dimension (extra-dimension), here's 1 reference to it:

http://i.imgur.com/FSzWAJJ.jpg?1

"our dimension"

Furthermore, Who's Who confirms it:

http://i.imgur.com/po0UTRE.jpg?1

I have also Editorial confirmation if needed. But basically it's been consistently referred as this in the after the 100s issues. Though other writers (when Warlord crossovers with other titles) kind of ignored this, doesn't change the fact that it's been established.

I posted a lot, so let me know if there's something that doesn't fit with what i said, so i can recheck it.

Hercules with his adamantium mace is going to take out even the Hulk.

Originally posted by operator616
No, not all of them, basically, in the Warlord series, monsters are the most powerful, the last arc of the series is the one which features the most powerful beings (ill get to that in a while), but among some powerful things/beings:

the sword which can sent asunder time and space, from Warlord #34:

http://i.imgur.com/P6gZKHX.jpg

......It can time travel, though this is a concept which is - like many others - featured frequently in the Warlord series, and it should be noted that Warlord #80, for instance, says that there are an infinite number of alternate time-lines/universes:

http://i.imgur.com/D64MavN.jpg?1

There are also 2 extremely powerful wizards who are literally playing "God", they control everything on a chessboard, in the literal sense, as seen in Warlord #35:

http://i.imgur.com/8UtQGbP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bs4ON5T.jpg

Funny how the 2 wizards are Mike and John, you'll realize that the writer's name is Mike Grell and the Letterer's John Costanza. Coincidence? Maybe.

Here's confirmation that those are extra-dimensional omnipresent wizards (special feature inserted in issue 50 which serves as a guide tour to the previous adventures):

http://i.imgur.com/4ySlIsT.jpg?1



There's also some Nameless gods/demons (heh, which reminds me that DC has also another supreme being referenced in the martian manhunter v1 mini, called the Unnameable One) which when invoked tear apart the fabric of time-space, Warlord #49:

http://i.imgur.com/wYMlRTe.jpg?1

And a backup story featuring Claw the Unconquered (associated with in one of the issue shows time-space melting, then restored:

http://i.imgur.com/9uBJiyS.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/WvqJTSO.jpg

This dimension has 15 worlds, 7 to each light and dark, and 1 neutral.

There's also the Evil One, who's is the literal personification of evil, though he mostly never reaches his peak power, and even when he's destroyed in Warlord #66 (because his power source - his book - got destroyed), it's stated that he'll return because evil exist many forms:

http://i.imgur.com/gddw9k9.jpg?1

which is true, Evil One did return later, indirectly.

Death (Abstract) was also featured several times, introduced at the beginning of the series, and her last appearance was in Warlord #98, which was around the time the COIE was taking place, after that, Death of the endless was introduced, and basically hinted that all gods of mythologies/beliefs in DC are part of the endless in different forms.


There's also the Wizard king of new atlantis (Cykroth back then, who was later defeated because his power was drained to creating some sort of universe in Travis' mind...) who's associated with the evil that eats the universe, Warlord #96:

http://i.imgur.com/7V03Q4u.jpg?1

There are others like Wralf, V'zarr Hagar Zinn, Khnathaiti, a helmet which grants "limitless power" to the user, etc.. but meh, last arc is by far the most important one, especially power-wise.



-----

Now the last arc does feature extremely powerful beings, Galan already posted the Una/Anu stuff, here's some other beings from the same issue (Warlord #132):

Ea:

http://i.imgur.com/gm2PMMz.jpg

Tiamat:

http://i.imgur.com/nb9h9dy.jpg

Yk'kphat:

http://i.imgur.com/VRxTv32.jpg

Ningal:

http://i.imgur.com/ROuCIxT.jpg

--

Should be noted: while only nine planes are referenced (when Una created the universe) there is a tenth one which is the very incarnation of evil, as seen in Warlord #114:

http://i.imgur.com/4c4xktv.jpg?1

--


Another thing: Some people who read Warlord might be confused as to what the Skartaris is, because first it's referred to being within the hollow earth (this is a scan before the crisis was concluded):

http://i.imgur.com/UMn2SDC.jpg?1

However later this was changed to to Skartaris being an independent dimension (extra-dimension), here's 1 reference to it:

http://i.imgur.com/FSzWAJJ.jpg?1

"our dimension"

Furthermore, Who's Who confirms it:

http://i.imgur.com/po0UTRE.jpg?1

I have also Editorial confirmation if needed. But basically it's been consistently referred as this in the after the 100s issues. Though other writers (when Warlord crossovers with other titles) kind of ignored this, doesn't change the fact that it's been established.

I posted a lot, so let me know if there's something that doesn't fit with what i said, so i can recheck it.


Niiiice! I don't think any of these beings, except for Una were mentioned in DC's hierarchy list.

Marvel: The One Above All
DC: The Presence

Aside from God/TOAA and the Presance and shits supposed to be the companies, Thanos with THOTU takes the cake.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Aside from God/TOAA and the Presance and shits supposed to be the companies, Thanos with THOTU takes the cake.

Hulk pants>>>Thanos W/HOTU.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Hulk pants>>>Thanos W/HOTU.

The thread say characters, not artefact of awesome power

Batman with prep

Aquaman

Originally posted by Golgo13
Niiiice! I don't think any of these beings, except for Una were mentioned in DC's hierarchy list.

What hierarchy are you referring to?

But Yeah, Una should be the most powerful being in Warlord, standing above all of them, and what's even more impressive is that they had Una creating the universe at the end of the series, when it became more prominent in DC, unlike when the series began.

Originally posted by operator616
What hierarchy are you referring to?

But Yeah, Una should be the most powerful being in Warlord, standing above all of them, and what's even more impressive is that they had Una creating the universe at the end of the series, when it became more prominent in DC, unlike when the series began.

It was a list composed by Elarahprime. Not updated, but shows DC has a crap load that I'm not even aware of.

1) Beings/Forces who are beyond any creation (Beings that even Hypertime does apply to them)
The Presence/The Overseers

The Source/Carnivore with Presence's power/Gyges and Garamas/Ultimate Light/Ultimate Darkness (Ultimate Darkness and Ultimate Light are the balance of the Presence)/The Voice/The Unnameable One

The Decreator/Lucifer Morningstar/Archangel Michael/Elaine with Michael's power and Demiurgic Energy/The Adjudicator/Spectre/Eclipso (Wrath of God)

Archangel Gabriel, Uriel, Raphael, Michael (Chaos Bringer), Saraquel, Raguel

2) Hypertime abstract Beings/Forces (beings that could affect the whole Hypertimeline)
Hyperman (God of Hypertime Jonathan Kent)

World's Funnest Mr. Mxyzptlk and Bat-Mite (May not be the Central Hypertimeline or 'in-continuity' Mxyzptlk or Bat-Mite but still existed from a different hypertimeline)

3) Multiversal abstract beings/forces (beings that could affect the Multiverse)
Una, the Worm of Heaven and Hell/Ea/Mallo Keeper of the Cosmic Balance/The Sword of Destiny/The Word/The Void/Demiurgic Energy/The Witching Hour /Anti-Monitor (full version)/Entropy or Krona at full potential/The Great Light (no relations to the Ultimate Darkness or Ultimate Light)/The Darkness (could be the Anti-Monitor's shadow servants merged as one. But that's debatable)/Godwave/The Ultimator or 10th dimensional beings/The Abyss

4) Universal abstract beings/fundamental forces who embody a universe (Beings that could affect a single universe)
Kismet or Eternity (same being , but the name Pre-Crisis Superwoman called her universe in Superman Family Arc)/Death/Infinity (The Timestream)/Oblivion (Nothingness)/Angor/Entropy (End of Time after everything dies)/Maltusian Gods/The Moraiei/Three Witches/Other forms the Witching Hour manifest itself throughout the universe/Destiny/Dream I/Dream II/Darksome/Yk'Kphat/the Antechamber of Souls/The Great Tree/The Abyss (Pre-Boot Dial H For Hero Villain)/5th dimensional imp king or queen (Queen Gzntplzk or King Brpxz)/Omega Attractor/Epoch with Omega Attractor/The Oracle Entity/Maaldor/Ningal/The Aleph/Order/Chaos/Willow and her husband as one (one with the universe)/OA/Quantum Field/Speed Force/Parallax Entity/Azarath/Astro-Force/Omega Effect/Alpha Energy/Zero Hour Parallax (full power)/Ion/Sunbust energy/The Shadowlands/Joker with Maaldor Power/Mr. Mxyzptlk/Bat-Mite/Lkz/Ykz/The Mxy Twins (Mxyzptlk split into 2)/A typical 5th dimensional imp (Zrffians, Thunderbolts, and Mite-Imps) (average showing)/Emperor Joker/Cosmic Lotus/Nebula Man

The Concentrator/The Primal Atom/The Sun-Stone/Genesis Box/Warlogog/Warlogog wielder/Damage (Big Bang)/Anti-Matter Cannon/The Master Blaster

5) Abstract Concepts/physical body and manifestations of the Presence
Destruction/The Decay ancient force/Anomaly (also known as Fires of Creation itself)/Desire/Despair/Dellirium/The Union/Dark Lords of the Ultra-Realm (War, Chaos, Madness, Hate, Death, Greed and Rage), Light Lords of the Ultra-Realm (Peace, Grace, Enlightenment, Love, Order, Life and Bliss)/Rama Kushna/Meshta/Wally the God Boy/Godhead

6) Physical body and manifestations of abstract concepts
Black Racer/Black Flash/Nekron I/The Ecrus/Anti-Life Entity/Anyone wielding the ALE/Eon (full power)/Decay II/Tiamat

7) Godlike Metahumans/1st class Metaphysicals, Semi-Abstract, God-Like beings, race, Demons, Angels/Metaphysicals that could affect the universe
Hamilton Benedict/Gemini Entity/Alexander Luthor/Gemworld Dimension (currently Amethyst's spirit)/Jonathan Kent/Progenitor (Element Lad reaching his full potential and becoming God of a galaxy)/Progenitor and Omnipagues (merged as one being)/

The Promethian Giants/The Quantum Mechanics/The Anti-Matter Man (Pre-Boot)

Ramiel/Duma/Sandalphon/Archangel Amendaniel/Lord of Order (Shatru, St'ann, Terataya, Ynar, J'akk, Nabu the Wise, Patagones, Amethyst)/Lord of Chaos (Child, Gorrum, Hytuurnus, m'Shulla, Shivering Jemmy, The Weaver, T'Charr,The Shallow Brigade and the Laughing Dancers,The five original Lords of Chaos,Typhon, Vandaemon, Zanadu)/The Unity/Shattered God/SHAZAM's Elder Gods (Marzosh, Arel, Ribalvei, Voldar, Elbiam, Lumium)/S'ivaa The Destroyer/The Shadow Elements race/The Three Demons - Rath, Ghast, Abnegazar/Clockwerx/Trigon (in his dimension)/Krona/Bedlam/Dominus/Jakeem Thunder/Johnny Thunder/30th Century or present Mordru/The Great Darkness Saga Darkseid/Doctor Manhattan/Satan/Spear of Destiny/Azmodus (like the Spectre varies)/Shaitan/Shathan/Ultimate Man (fully evolved)/Ganthet possessed by Parallax/Superman Prime/Wonder Woman channeling the Godwave/Starbreaker/Yuga Khan/Imperiex/Brainiac 13/Fenris the Devourer/Omniphagues/Overmaster/Epoch/Vyronis/Preacherverse God/King of Tears/The Devil/Corinthian/The First of the Fallen/Saint of Killer/Angel of Death/Time Trapper I (Rokk Krinn)/Time Trapper II (Lori Morning?)/Glorith/Infinite Man/Timeless Ones/The Time Beast/Kulak/Eclipso (depowered and became Heart of Darkness)/Abraxis/Dr. Destiny/The Agents/Dark Angel/Zatanna and Adam (Godhead)/Agent If and the Realtor/The Carnivore (pre-God)/Cykroth/The Evil One/Maggedon/Alien Ator of the Timeless Place/Primordial Old Gods of Chaos/The Lords of Light/Nether-World Gods/Satan (Phantom Stranger issue pre-boot)/Willie Wisher/Father Time/Captain Skull/Cocoon of the Undying Ones

8) 1st Class Metahumans, supernatural, and aliens/2nd class Metaphysicals,Semi-Abstract, and God-Like beings/race/Demons/Angels
The Unimaginable/Unimaginable's race/Candlemaker/Egregores/TDHD MadGod of Sector 3600/Millinneum Giants/Cosmic Gamblers/OWner of the Earth/The A/Rift/Neron/The Second of the Fallen/The Third of the Fallen/The Endless One/Old Gods- Arzaz, Baaldur, Lokee, The Nameless One, Sirius, Wotan/A typical 5th dimensional imp (varies) (low showings)/The I/Luck Lords/X'Hal/Agamemno/The Aurakles/The One/The Fiend with Five Faces/Erishad's baby/Outer Gods (Shub-Niggurath, Azathoth, Yog-Sothoth, Nyarlathotep)/Elder Gods and the Old Ones (Cthulhu,M'Nagalah, k'zum'uggarth, Daemoniacus, Kolkothak, Koth-Shugoth, The Undying Ones and the N'Garai)/Netherworld Creatures/Andromeda and M'onel given powers by the Anomaly/The ID/The Miracle Machine/Parallax (Post Zero Hour)/Jericho (vessel of Azarath)/Zauriel (angel form)/Asmodel/Pax Dei host/Thrones/Saraphim/other angel host that Gabriel or Sandalphon are in charge of/Earth-Born Angels- Supergirl (angelic powers), Comet, and Blithe (if they actually use their powers), Twilight with Supergirl's Earth Born Angel Power (still has it I believe)/Jesse Custer/Genesis/The Light Entity/Leviathan (Phantom Stranger pre-boot)/Asmodeus/Oblivion II/Secret (full potential)

Sun Eater/Mr. Nebula/Cannibal Planet/Aquarius/Other Living Stars/Council of the Living Stars/Solaris/Morbiac the Zombie Star/The Vampire Sun/Mogo/Empire of Tears/Wonderworld inhabitors- Adam One, The Mote, and other Wonderworlders/Manhunter of Mars/Parliaments of Planets/Earth Elemental Swamp Thing/The Ancient Ones/Maya/Gaea

Monitor/Anti-Monitor (before he absorbed the multiverse)/Scarabus

9) Skyfather levels
Highfather Izaya/Darkseid/Takion/Stayne/a typical Guardians of the Univese/Ganthet/Phantom Stranger/Zeus/Odin or any skyfathers/SHAZAM wizard/The Controllers/The Zamarons/Guardians Council/Qwardians (creator of the Anti-Green Lantern Corps)/Ares/Harmonia/Deimos/Eris/Phobos/Thunderhead/Helia/Odin/Osiris/Mother Herrae and other Primitives/Osirect/Anubis/Hades/Cronus/Harrier/Disdain/Titan/Slaughter/Arch/Oblivion/other skyfathers and death gods/Superman 1 million/Superman Dynasty/Koth/The Seven/Wonder Woman (Goddess)/Animal Avatars Gods (Hawkgod, Snakegods, Beargods, Bullgods, etc.)/Rao and other Kryptonian gods/Gog/Evil Avatar Raven/Trigon's Daughter Raven/Lord Satanis/Trigon (on Earth)/Infernal One/The Redeemer/Mister Miracle (ruling New Genesis)/Stone Giant's race/Parliament of Flames/Parliament of Stones/Parliament of Waves/Parliament of Trees/Parliament of Vibes/Blaze/Lord Satanus/The Three Faces of Evil- Terror, Sin, and Wickedness/Validus (Pre-Boot)/The Powerstone or anyone wielding the Powerstone/Metron/Red Jack/Rhea Jones (reaching her full potential before killing Red Jack)/Shadowy Mr. Evans/Saint of Killer/Dark Gods/Lois Lane (Goddess of Integrity)/Dreamslayer/Spirit King/Ultimate Man/X'ult/Evolvo harnessing the space and time Anomaly/Willow/Willow's chils/Snapper Carr (genetic potential)/Human race (genetic potential)/Jesse Custer/Genesis/The Ancient Ones/Xenon/Disciple/H'ronmeer/C'eridyall/The Four Horsemen of Apocalypse - Death, War, Faminine, and Plague (manifestations of The Adjudator's will)

10) Time-travelers/2nd class metahumans, supernatural, and aliens
Extant/Waverider and Linear Man/Hourman III (without the worlogog)/Gabriel Walker/Doomsday with GL Ring/Decay III/Brimstone/The Annihilator/Eon (depowered)/Godfrey Gaius (true form)/Black Zero/Gayle Marsh (Psi)/Lex Luthor (portion of Darkseid's power)/Penguin (portion of Darkseid's power)/Joker (portion of Darkseid's power)/Brainiac (potion of Darkseid's power)/Agogg/Pre-Crisis Superman/Pre-Crisis Supergirl/Pre-Crisis Kryptonians/Pre-Crisis Daxamites/Mon-El/Pre-Crisis Superboy/Pre-Crisis Wonderwoman/Pre-Crisis Andromeda/Bloodthirst (could be higher, not much is known about him except that he could change his appearance and he beat the crap out of Superman)/Monarch/Dev-Em/OWAW Doomsday/Doomsday War Doomsday/Goldstar/Triumph given powers by Lkz/Pre-Crisis Maxima/OWAW Superman (merged with Strange Visitor)/Pre-Crisis Ultraboy/Superwoman (Kristen Wells)/Hunter and Prey Doomsday/Element Lad/Element Man/Starfinger/Star Boy/Kid Quantum II/Kid Pyscho/Graviton Man/Gravity Lord (both could be higher)/Superboy Robot (pre-crisis)/Atmos/Brother Blood/Dr. Light (full potential, enraged, and very crazy)/Dr. Light II/Superboy of the 843rd Century/Superboy 1 million

11) Herald-Class Level/3rd class angels, metahuman, supernautrals, and demons/Hulk-Level
Helspont/Lord Defile/Saviour/Regis and Blue Aliens/Preacherverse Devil/Dark Lantern/Dark Flash/Fernus/Burning Martians/Vartox/Amazo/The OMAC Androids/BION/Composite Superman/Garok/Dr. Fate/Dr. Fate II/Dr. Fate III/Dr. Fate IV/Tim Hunter/Tim Hunter II (Tim Hunter's evil counterpart from another universe)/Anti-Fate (high portrayal in the Fates and TM)/Kestrel I/Krestrel II/Composite Man/Deadman (varies)/Green Lantern Priest/Creator-2/Zatanna/Jennifer Morgan/Janissary with Book of Eternity/Despero/Zoom 2/Shaggy Man/The General/The Elementals (Swamp Thing, Red Tornado, Firestorm, Naiad)/Orion (highest showing)/Brainiac 2.5/Doomsday Rex/Sun-dipped Superman

Martian Manhunter/Malefic/Hyperclan- A-Mortal, Armek, Fluxus, Primad, Protex, Tronix, Zenturion and Zum/Green, Pale, Red and White Martians (at their best)/Alan Scott/Kyle Rayner/Raker/Hal Jordan/Kilowog/John Stewart/Guy Gardner/typical Green Lantern (highest showing)/Wally West (highest showing or using Speed Force)/Sinestro/Effigy/Nero/Major Force/Captain Atom (highest showing)/Firestorm I and Firestorm II (highest showing)/Celeste Rockfish/Cobalt Blue/Kilg%re/Obsidian/Dr. Polaris

Superman/Mr. Majestic (could be ranked higher)/M'onel/The Martians (average to high)/Kryptonians/Daxamites/Andromeda/Captain Marvel/Lightray/Black Adam/Eradicator/Martian Mahunter/Alan Scott/Kyle Rayner/Raker/Hal Jordan/Kilowog/John Stewart/Guy Gardner/typical Green Lantern (average)/Ultraman/Orion (average showing)/Captain Atom (average showing)/Doomsday/Firestorm I/Firestorm II (average to high)/Breach/Max Faraday/The Void/Providence/Manchester Black/Power Ring/Massacre/High-Tech/Anti-Green Lanterns/Malefic/Green Martians/Rhea Jones/Preus/Cyborg Superman/Mongul/Zatanna (average showing)/Auron/Radiant/Despero/Thor/Captain Comet/Starboy/Starman I/Starman II/Starman III/Starman IV/Starman V/Starman VI/Starman VII/Starman VIII/Starman 1,000,000/Lord Malvolio/Jade/Evil Star/General Zod/Ignition/Kancer/Warrior/Lex Luthor (Armor)/Manchester Black/Triumph/Strata/The Crusade/The Union/Golgoth/Superman Robots/Superman Androids/Brainiac/Pulsar Stargrave/Ultivac/Manhunters/Darkstars/Arion/Dr. Occult/Echantress/Steel (Aegis Entropy Armor)/Ultraboy/Warlord of Ys/Anti-Matter Man/Antithesis/Brainwave II/Ferro Lad/Cosmic Boy (pre-Crisis)/Gaius (in coma)/Lobo/Etrigan

Wonder Woman/Circe/Maxima (high showing)/Samaritan/Apollo/Icon/The Martians (low showings)/the Green Lanterns (average to low showings)/Captain Atom (average to low showings)/Maul/Solomon Grundy/Uncle Sam/Death Rite (Draaga)/Hercules/Mantis/Ultra Boy/Captain Marvel Jr./Mary Marvel (high showing on the Marvel sidekicks)/Geoforce (high showing)/Faora/Arclight/Son of Vulcan/Bizarro/Thor/Wanjina/Red Tornado/
Body Defenses of the Owner of the Earth/Kalibak/Grayven/Superwoman/Zealot/Validus (Post Zero-Hour)/Steve Dayton/Solaar/The Olympian/Ferro/Cosmic Boy (post-Crisis)/Scanner/White Drawf/Drone/4D/The Key/Imperiex Probes/Heralds of the Owner of the Earth/Terraformer of the Owner of the Earth /Jenny Quantum

Adam Strange/Animal Avatars (Hawkman,Hawkwoman,Lord Viper, avatars of Bears, Barracudas, Snakes, etc.)

12) Lower Class metahumans
Powergirl (high showing)/Hippolyta/Barda/OMAC (Buddle Blank)/Mary Marvel and Captain Marvel Jr. (standard)/Maxima/Fury II/Loose Cannon/Blockbuster I/Blockbuster II/Touch 'n Go/Jack-o-Lantern

Flash II (high showing)/Flash III(post terminal velocity)

Power Girl (standard to low showings)/Mary Marvel/Cap Marvel Junior (standard to low showing on the Marvel)/Donna Troy/Artemis & Hyppolita (highest showings)/Superboy (high showings)/Aquaman (with full on TP and magic hand)

Flash I/Flash II (standard)/Flash III (pre terminal velocity)/Dr. Zoom/Impulse/Johnny Quick/Captain Speed/Kid Flash (former Impulse)/Reverse Flash/Savitar/Speed Demon/Max Mercury/Johnny Quick/Red and Blue Trinity/Christina Alexandrova/Jesse Quick/Barry West/Kid Flash 2/Impulse/23rd Century Flash/Sela Allen/John Fox/speed Metal/Blaine Allen/Jace Allen/Tornado Twins/Hyperguard/Inertia/XS/Flash Kryad/JOhn Fox/Impulse II/Superboy (standard)/Wonder Girl/Aquaman (hook/mechanical hand + full on TP)/Steel/Natasha Irons/Metamorpho/Starman(low showing)/Thunder/Grace/Kid Impala

Atom Smasher/Colossal Boy/Hourman I and II/Geoforce (standard)/Black Lightning/Static/Black Lightning/Jenny Sparks/Vera Black/Behemoth/Scirocco/Prometheus (Hybrid)/Pulse-8/666

Sand/Clayface/Alloy

Aquaman (not full on TP)/Jay Garrick (standard)/Rival/Stargirl/Hawkman/Hawkgirl/Hawkwoman (standard)/Plastic Man

Wally West (Return of Barry Allen)

Silver Age Aquaman/Atom I/Atom II/Apparition/Aqualad/Aquagirl/Aruna/Gorgon/Harpi/Pteradon/Black Nebula/Elongated Man/Flow/Tasmanian Devil

14) 1st clas humans
Overbat (Mitefall)/Croc/Batman's Dark Knight Armor/Vixen/Ragman

15) 2nd class humans
Batman (both Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis)/Bane/Richard Dragon/Bronze Tiger/Blackwing/Warmaker One/Mr. Terrific/Deathstroke/Deadshot/The Joker/Two Face/Nightwing/Robin/Red Hood/The Husk/Black Mask/Green Arrow/Arsenal/Connor Hawke/Batgirl/Catwoman/Lady Shiva/The Squire/The Knight (Ultramarine)/Fleur-De-Lis/Goraiko

Originally posted by Stoic
What about the consumer or fans? What happens if they stop buying comics? Could this be the forces beyond the fictional all mighty's power? i also can not understand what makes one omnipotent fictitious character shine above another fictitious omnipotent character. How was Thanos with the HOTU less or more powerful than the way pre retcon Beyonder was initially written, or Thanos with the IG for that matter? How do we as readers step in, and make the distinction?

very interesting thought and it does make a lot of sense. Surprise nobody is picking up on this. If u think about it, readers can very likely influence the direction, motive and creation/creativity of writers.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Hercules with his adamantium mace is going to take out even the Hulk.

Adamantine, not adamantium.

@Golgo: Interesting,

Elarahprime (though i never met him) obviously put effort in this, though i must say, the hierarchy does contain some major flaws. Several characters are way out of place.