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Who wins?
No prep..




Blue Marvel
Spectrum(M.R)

Vs

Ultraman
Superwoman



Fight takes place in Metropolis

Team 1. UM's exploitable weakness is custom made for Monica. She'll rapidly shift through energy signatures till she finds one that hurts (like she did vs Mindless Hulk).

BM can handle any one on Team Two. AM blasts and amped punches ftw.

Monica is probably the second beat person vs Kryptonians in marvel. (Quasar being first imo)

Black people ftw.

Originally posted by zopzop
Team 1. UM's exploitable weakness is custom made for Monica. She'll rapidly shift through energy signatures till she finds one that hurts (like she did vs Mindless Hulk).

BM can handle any one on Team Two. AM blasts and amped punches ftw.
Before or after Ultraman backhands her and KTFO her like spidey has done on two occasions?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Monica is probably the second beat person vs Kryptonians in marvel. (Quasar being first imo)
In getting their asses handed to them? I agree.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Before or after Ultraman backhands her and KTFO her like spidey has done on two occasions? Obviously after. Seriously though, you do know that she can turn into different forms of energy (and she regularly turns into lightrays at the start of a fight)?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Before or after Ultraman backhands her and KTFO her like spidey has done on two occasions?
Context. Was this during the period in her career when she couldn't transform into pure energy? Because she doesn't have that problem now.

Not much info on Superwoman. Ultraman beats BM, though.

In fact, that's pretty much her go to battle strategy. Turn into energy, destroy opponent, move on.

Also, Marvel can and more than likely will boost her if that power boost he gave her against Shuma Gorath isn't permanent.

And unless UM's got some krytocracktinite on hand and it's night time, he won't be too much trouble for Marvel.

Originally posted by deathslash
Obviously after. Seriously though, you do know that she can turn into different forms of energy (and she regularly turns into lightrays at the start of a fight)? Originally posted by zopzop
Context. Was this during the period in her career when she couldn't transform into pure energy? Because she doesn't have that problem now.
She could, but spidey was too fast for her.Originally posted by KingD19
In fact, that's pretty much her go to battle strategy. Turn into energy, destroy opponent, move on.

Also, Marvel can and more than likely will boost her if that power boost he gave her against Shuma Gorath isn't permanent.

And unless UM's got some krytocracktinite on hand and it's night time, he won't be too much trouble for Marvel.
Haha, what? Ultraman would kick marvel's ass.

With the stipulations that the sun isn't out and he's got a fresh dose of powered neon green crack to snort.

Otherwise Marvel is one of the most powerful guys in Marvel period. Up there with Thor, Sentry, Hyperion, etc... And I don't see UM having an easy time with any of them.

I get it though, you'd die for DC so it's obligatory that you argue for Ultraman.

I thought we use characters to the best of their abilities? Kryptonite isn't really an amp for Ultraman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
She could, but spidey was too fast for her.

Pretty sure there's more to it than this. What issues did this take place in?

Originally posted by Golgo13
I thought we use characters to the best of their abilities? Kryptonite isn't really an amp for Ultraman.

Kryptonite for Nu-52 Ultraman is like Sunlight for Nu-52 Superman. Without it he weakens just like Clark weakens without the sun.

And the sun actively weakens him like kryptonite actively weakens Clark.

Originally posted by KingD19
Kryptonite for Nu-52 Ultraman is like Sunlight for Nu-52 Superman. Without it he weakens just like Clark weakens without the sun.

And the sun actively weakens him like kryptonite actively weakens Clark.

But we use Ultraman do the best of his abilities, right? Just like Superman.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Not much info on Superwoman. Ultraman beats BM, though. I'm sorry but what's Ultraman's track record against antimatter?

Originally posted by deathslash
I'm sorry but what's Ultraman's track record against antimatter?

Good.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Good. I don't think that it is.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, what? Ultraman would kick marvel's ass. Let's not get too crazy here. Marvel has clearly shown that he can hang with the likes of King Hyperion and even battled the Mighty Avengers single handedly.

Originally posted by KingD19
With the stipulations that the sun isn't out and he's got a fresh dose of powered neon green crack to snort.

Otherwise Marvel is one of the most powerful guys in Marvel period. Up there with Thor, Sentry, Hyperion, etc... And I don't see UM having an easy time with any of them.

I get it though, you'd die for DC so it's obligatory that you argue for Ultraman.
Ultraman wasn't amped in any way or form, he was weakened and he got at full power by inhaling it. Its like saying superman would win if he was near solar power, it doesn't work like that.

Also @ trying to turn it into a biased arguments. Ultraman crushed Black Adam like a feeb, Blue Marvel has no business fighting him.Originally posted by deathslash
Let's not get too crazy here. Marvel has clearly shown that he can hang with the likes of King Hyperion and even battled the Mighty Avengers single handedly.
King Hyperion was shit, dude broke his hand on a depowered juggernaut.

Originally posted by zopzop
Pretty sure there's more to it than this. What issues did this take place in?
I don't remember the issue number. Let me check.

Has Superwoman even done anything yet? Monica would be a such a pain for a being like Ultraman to fight with him being vulnerable to certain wavelengths of energy and being powered by Kryptonite radiation. Unless he speed blitzes her from the get go (Assuming it can even work because IIRC her body was made of light or something at one point), she'd beat him imho.

Superwoman hasn't done anything so Blue Marvel would obviously take her just on feats and Ultraman vs. Blue Marvel is a pretty good fight. Don't forget, this guy took on Anti-Man solo for a time, he's a beast.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Has Superwoman even done anything yet? Monica would be a such a pain for a being like Ultraman to fight with him being vulnerable to certain wavelengths of energy and being powered by Kryptonite radiation. Unless he speed blitzes her from the get go (Assuming it can even work because IIRC her body was made of light or something at one point), she'd beat him imho.

Superwoman hasn't done anything so Blue Marvel would obviously take her just on feats and Ultraman vs. Blue Marvel is a pretty good fight. Don't forget, this guy took on Anti-Man solo for a time, he's a beast. Yeah, Monica would beat Ultraman but don't forget, she doesn't know his abilities and weaknesses right off the bat, so she's just as likely to accidentally power him up as she is to depower him.

Yes, Marvel does beat Superwoman on feats alone, but I couldn't really see him taking Ultraman after taking down Superwoman (by logic alone, Superwoman is in Wonder woman's weight class and she would give Marvel a good fight).

Originally posted by deathslash
Yeah, Monica would beat Ultraman but don't forget, she doesn't know his abilities and weaknesses right off the bat, so she's just as likely to accidentally power him up as she is to depower him.

Yes, Marvel does beat Superwoman on feats alone, but I couldn't really see him taking Ultraman after taking down Superwoman (by logic alone, Superwoman is in Wonder woman's weight class and she would give Marvel a good fight).

Monica is very capable at scanning and determining energy signatures and so on at this point. I also find it unlikely that she'd blast him with the same foreign radiation (Kryptonite is not part of Marvel) that he's radiating. Just seems like a bad idea imo.

I don't think he could take both, I was including Monica in fighting one of them in that assessment. Although Wonder Woman's physical power is pretty suspect at the moment imo.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Monica is very capable at scanning and determining energy signatures and so on at this point. I also find it unlikely that she'd blast him with the same foreign radiation (Kryptonite is not part of Marvel) that he's radiating. Just seems like a bad idea imo.

I don't think he could take both, I was including Monica in fighting one of them in that assessment. Although Wonder Woman's physical power is pretty suspect at the moment imo. True, but if she blasts him with say red sunlight then he should get more powerful (just as Clark gets weaker from red sunlight). However, you are right, she is pretty skilled at scanning energy signatures so I doubt that she'd do that (even on accident).

My mistake then, I must have misread what you'd written.

Originally posted by KingD19
With the stipulations that the sun isn't out and he's got a fresh dose of powered neon green crack to snort.

Otherwise Marvel is one of the most powerful guys in Marvel period. Up there with Thor, Sentry, Hyperion, etc... And I don't see UM having an easy time with any of them.

I get it though, you'd die for DC so it's obligatory that you argue for Ultraman.




I was wondering the same myself..
Why he arguing so hard for Ultraman?

Because he has better feats?