Man of Steel - World Engine feat

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Rage.Of.Olympus
I was curious what some of the opinions were.

Did the World Engine during Man of Steel blow a hole through the entire planet?

Rage.Of.Olympus
During Man of Steel, we saw the World Engine pulsating with some gravity beam between both ends. I'm of the opinion that this reasoning is totally bat shit insane as we saw the ground in both Metropolis and when Superman was standing and there was no hole on either end at all, not even a small crater but flat dirt:
http://s30.postimg.org/ml7bj4kjx/2222.jpghttp://s24.postimg.org/lstd21bm9/2222.jpg

Gravitational forces act through intervening matter in the real world after all and this is fictional Kryptonian tech where even a black hole doesn't act like a real black hole.

Epicurus
I think it could have potentially ran through the Earth, but didn't thanks to Superman stopping it in time.

Those beams were probably meant to change the density of the Earth to increase its gravity. Meh, whatever, it's one of those feats that people will never agree upon.

Silent Master
As there is no hole on either side, it's obvious that the beams didn't physically dig through the Earth...not that it'd need to, what with it being gravity based.

Supra

Fifthchild
It clearly and unambiguously did not blow a hole through the entire planet.

It was an impressive feat no doubt - difficult to quantify - but nothing like this occurred.

Supra
Originally posted by Fifthchild
It clearly and unambiguously did not blow a hole through the entire planet.

It was an impressive feat no doubt - difficult to quantify - but nothing like this occurred.

Im not sure how its "difficult to quantify'

COG Veteran
Pretty sure it was just increasing gravity. No hole.

Tzeentch
Never took it to be a whole, personally.

FrothByte
No it wasn't a hole. It's not like it was a drill or anything. It was delivering a "pulse" connecting to the ship on the other side of the planet, creating havok with gravity.

marwash22
one end (the end Superman destroyed) was pumping energy into the core, the other end (the end in Metropolis) is where the gravity pulse was. There was no hole being drilled.

Supra
What are we being talked about here a non existent hole in the ground or him destroying the world engine?

Silent Master
Originally posted by Supra
What are we being talked about here a non existent hole in the ground or him destroying the world engine?

The question was whether or not it drilled a hole through the planet.

Robtard
It didn't drill a hole. It was sending some sort of energy pulse through the entire planet, which Superman powered himself through, despite his powers being weakened.

FrothByte
So in short, it's really a hard feat to qualify. We have no idea how strong it was exactly, thus we don't know how good a feat Superman powering through it is.

Robtard
Originally posted by FrothByte
So in short, it's really a hard feat to qualify. We have no idea how strong it was exactly, thus we don't know how good a feat Superman powering through it is.

How much power would it take to send a (gravity?) pulse through the entire planet? But yeah, there is no "Oh, it's an 8.8 level feat" clear answer, but it seems very high.

Esau Cairn
It was all just a silly excuse for Superman to fight standard cliched sci-fi tentacles.

Robtard
Yeah, hands down the worst part of the movie, tentacles.

FrothByte
Originally posted by Robtard
How much power would it take to send a (gravity?) pulse through the entire planet? But yeah, there is no "Oh, it's an 8.8 level feat" clear answer, but it seems very high.

The spaceship over Metropolis has actual gravitational destructive powers shown, as it is flattening cars and what not. There's nothing from the World engine side though that shows just how strong it's pulse is.

Robtard
Originally posted by FrothByte
The spaceship over Metropolis has actual gravitational destructive powers shown, as it is flattening cars and what not. There's nothing from the World engine side though that shows just how strong it's pulse is.

It seemed like the world engine was supplying the power to the ship, since it's the terraformer and not the ship, by all appearances.

Also have to wonder what power levels it would take to send that energy through the Earth.

NemeBro
Anyone who thinks you can't quantify the energy to kill all life on Earth and reshape a world is an idiot.

It is quantified as better than Thor. thumb up

Anyway, to be honest the two pictures you posted don't really show me anything, do you have any better ones?

FrothByte
Originally posted by NemeBro
Anyone who thinks you can't quantify the energy to kill all life on Earth and reshape a world is an idiot.

It is quantified as better than Thor. thumb up

Anyway, to be honest the two pictures you posted don't really show me anything, do you have any better ones?

Ok fine. Quantify it then. How strong is it? Is it equivalent to a nuclear bomb? Maybe 2? Maybe 10? Or maybe it's just as strong as a thousand light bulbs?

How long would it have needed to terraform the Earth? How many tons of force was each pulse generating if at all? Do we have anything we can compare it with so we have an idea of how strong it was?

Besides, it's not a destructive force, otherwise it would destroy the Earth. It's "terraforming" it to look like Krypton, meaning it's not simply a destructive force.

NemeBro
Originally posted by FrothByte
Ok fine. Quantify it then. How strong is it? Is it equivalent to a nuclear bomb? Maybe 2? Maybe 10? Or maybe it's just as strong as a thousand light bulbs?

It would be more powerful than every nuclear bomb ever created. Combined.



Yes, apparently.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/terraforming2.htm

"If it is possible to smash an asteroid of such enormous size into Mars, the energy of one impact would raise the temperature of the planet by 3 degrees Celsius. The sudden raise in temperature would melt about a trillion tons of water, which is enough water to form a lake, with a depth of one meter, that could cover an area larger than the state of Connecticut. Several of these missions over 50 years would create a temperate climate and enough water to cover 25 percent of the planet's surface. However, the bombardment by asteroids, each releasing energy equivalent to 70,000 one-megaton hydrogen bombs, would delay human settlement of the planet for centuries."

Here is a theoretical method of terraforming Mars to be like Earth. Said method is far slower than the World Engine's.

Here is another:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/quora/2013/09/12/outer_space_can_we_make_mars_or_venus_habitable.html

http://www.slate.com/blogs/quora/2013/09/12/outer_space_can_we_make_mars_or_venus_habitable.html

The lowest estimates for the amount of energy needed to terraform Mars being 10^16 J of energy, aka nearly a thousand times more powerful than the Fat Man bomb.



It was visibly destroying Metropolis and was going to kill all life on Earth and reshape its very climate.

"Oh but it wasn't going to destroy Earth"

Neither is a hand grenade, is that not a destructive force?

It is a very destructive force, just not to the extent that it can destroy the entire planet.

Tzeentch
Hulk would have destroyed it with a thunderclap. thumb up

NemeBro
Hm.

You're right. thumb up

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