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Ds tooled him. I think BP might take a majority. Still, the advantage of flight in a featureless environment would be something to consider.

Slade tooled Hawkman? I seem to remember a stalemate...

At any rate, Hawkman's ridiculous damage soak and flight give him the win here IMO.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Slade tooled Hawkman? I seem to remember a stalemate...

At any rate, Hawkman's ridiculous damage soak and flight give him the win here IMO.

Not to mention his new full length Nth metal body armor at will.

Originally posted by namorsubby
Deathstroke #14:

Quickly dispatches a warhawk
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Notice where hawkman marvels at his speed and where ds has him dead to rights

The Nth armor was supposed to protect Hawkman, but whatever.

This is close. But Panther has teleport, invisibility, force fields, and the cunning to win.

Originally posted by Vanguard
This is close. But Panther has teleport, invisibility, force fields, and the cunning to win.

If the Nth armor works like it has in the past, it can create fields as well. Also, it showed that Hawkman didn't need to be fully aware.

Also, in the final issues, he can unleash the battle armor, which would give him the solid majority.

Originally posted by Golgo13
If the Nth armor works like it has in the past, it can create fields as well. Also, it showed that Hawkman didn't need to be fully aware.

Also, in the final issues, he can unleash the battle armor, which would give him the solid majority.

Current BP has his energy daggers(seems Hickman didnt get rid of them) and IIRC they are able to phase through adamantium. He can use them as projectiles(even swarm them) or for close combat.

I dont know if BP has his anti metal claws.

Originally posted by Golgo13
If the Nth armor works like it has in the past, it can create fields as well. Also, it showed that Hawkman didn't need to be fully aware.

Also, in the final issues, he can unleash the battle armor, which would give him the solid majority.

In the past hawkman had no knowledge how to use nth metal this way, despite being fully aware of this capability. If he had this knowledge it would be an unfair spite match as the only one who had it (to my knowledge) was Omar Synn. With his knowledge he was basically a reality warper with full control over wrong and weak nuclear forces as well as electromagnetic and gravity. Carter/ Karter never showed such ability ever.

Originally posted by beatboks
In the past hawkman had no knowledge how to use nth metal this way, despite being fully aware of this capability. If he had this knowledge it would be an unfair spite match as the only one who had it (to my knowledge) was Omar Synn. With his knowledge he was basically a reality warper with full control over wrong and weak nuclear forces as well as electromagnetic and gravity. Carter/ Karter never showed such ability ever.

We're talking DCnU here. Not Pre-Flashpoint.

Black Panther wins.

Originally posted by Golgo13
We're talking DCnU here. Not Pre-Flashpoint.

Your the one who quoted the past



So don't kill the messenger for shooting it down. Nu52 Hawkman has shown a LOT less knowledge on the uses of Nth metal and it's capability than say Carter Hall did mack in JSA 23,24,25. Those were the only issues ever where he came close to showing the capability of using the full potency of the metal the Ominar Synn did to become a virtual reality warper. And all he managed to do was wrest control of the Nth metal under Synn's control because of his and Kenra's connection to the Claw of Horus within Synn.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I seem to remember....aww eff it I'll just post it.

Notice where hawkman marvels at his speed and where ds has him dead to rights

True, but Hawkman has Slade dead to rights at the end of the fight, and Slade got the jump on Carter. So, as far as I'm concerned stalemate.

Either way, post-Liefield, into the JLA Carter is being portrayed a lot differently, much tougher, almost immune to pain, and pretty easily slugging it out with 100 tonners.

Originally posted by beatboks
Your the one who quoted the past



So don't kill the messenger for shooting it down. Nu52 Hawkman has shown a LOT less knowledge on the uses of Nth metal and it's capability than say Carter Hall did mack in JSA 23,24,25. Those were the only issues ever where he came close to showing the capability of using the full potency of the metal the Ominar Synn did to become a virtual reality warper. And all he managed to do was wrest control of the Nth metal under Synn's control because of his and Kenra's connection to the Claw of Horus within Synn.

I meant his past in the DCnU.

BTW, one of his better feats of endurance and pain was when he was fighting Shaggy Man in JLA and was losing a fatal quantity of blood, yet he showed no sigh of fatigue.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
True, but Hawkman has Slade dead to rights at the end of the fight, and Slade got the jump on Carter. So, as far as I'm concerned stalemate.

Either way, post-Liefield, into the JLA Carter is being portrayed a lot differently, much tougher, almost immune to pain, and pretty easily slugging it out with 100 tonners. Except HM never had him dead to rights. When he had his claw pointed at Slade, Slade also had his gun doing the same thing.

Slade has similar armor in which he slugged it out with lobo and the legacy guy that lifted a submarine the size of a city block.

Regardless, If say bp gets so much help from his tech that he may take a majority here. But I could really go there other way as well.