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Thor
(Any version except for Sky Father level)



vs



Dr. Manhattan

Thor absorbs him into Mjolnir.

Gg

Thor would have to fight really weird to think of that. Plus Plus Manhattan can go intangible or solid mass or teleport to prevent it.
Anyway Manhattan is always looking into the future. So Thor can do nothing.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor would have to fight really weird to think of that. Plus Plus Manhattan can go intangible or solid mass or teleport to prevent it.
Anyway Manhattan is always looking into the future. So Thor can do nothing.

He uses energy absorption a lot. And he's absorbed living energy before. It's not even an OOC tactic for him.

Thor can effect intangible beings and can teleport himself and others, too, for the record.

Manhattan looking in the future doesn't mean he can change the outcome of the inevitable. Kinda the whole point of Watchmen. Thor can do plenty to him, too.

Is the ability to see into the future now a reason for being unbeatable?

Uuuuuuuuugggghhhh

Thor 9/10

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Is the ability to see into the future now a reason for being unbeatable?

Uuuuuuuuugggghhhh Oh intangibility aswell

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor would have to fight really weird to think of that. Plus Plus Manhattan can go intangible or solid mass or teleport to prevent it.
Anyway Manhattan is always looking into the future. So Thor can do nothing.

1) Thor can and has effected people that were intangible
2) Thor can and has absorbed energy beings
3) Thor can and has teleported

You should really read up on the characters involved before replying to topics.

Im using his hammer but even I lose...DM is beyond any world we know of...thor cannot stop him. his tj will prolly overside the hammer as well

Originally posted by Supra
Im using his hammer but even I lose...DM is beyond any world we know of...thor cannot stop him. his tj will prolly overside the hammer as well You are incorrect

Originally posted by iceman24567
You are incorrect

what on earth can thor do to him..that has not already been tried?

Originally posted by Supra
Im using his hammer but even I lose...DM is beyond any world we know of...thor cannot stop him. his tj will prolly overside the hammer as well

Was that supposed to make sense?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Was that supposed to make sense?

no

Originally posted by Supra
what on earth can thor do to him..that has not already been tried?

Uh, magic? Specifically the mystical abilities of one of the most haxxed weapons in comics outside of universal or omnipotent level artifacts?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Was that supposed to make sense? Soul sucking? Koing his ass with a charged hammer toss? None of thats been tried not to mention Thor has fought beings several times more powerful than Manhatten.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Uh, magic? Specifically the mystical abilities of one of the most haxxed weapons in comics outside of universal or omnipotent level artifacts?

and then if somehow that "can" touch him or create temporel wake and disperse his energy he will just reform himself and come back even more made.

he controls all that is bro, he can create from thought, he can destroy from thought, he needs no air, he is omnipotent-having unlimited power; able to do anything.

Originally posted by Supra
and then if somehow that "can" touch him or create temporel wake and disperse his energy he will just reform himself and come back even more made.

he controls all that is bro, he can create from thought, he can destroy from thought, he needs no air, he is omnipotent-having unlimited power; able to do anything. Wrong he isnt omnipotent or the story would have been different

Originally posted by iceman24567
Wrong he isnt omnipotent or the story would have been different

go read the comic book, he is in having unlimited power; able to do anything. create anything, and destroy even his own creations and able to create life itself

show me him being harmed and not recovereing from it, i can show you plenty of times thor gets whaled on..

I love thor more then most but a beat down is a beat down

Originally posted by Supra
and then if somehow that "can" touch him or create temporel wake and disperse his energy he will just reform himself and come back even more made.

he controls all that is bro, he can create from thought, he can destroy from thought, he needs no air, he is omnipotent-having unlimited power; able to do anything.

As I pointed out to h1a8

1) Thor can and has effected people that were intangible
2) Thor can and has absorbed energy beings

Originally posted by Silent Master
As I pointed out to h1a8

1) Thor can and has effected people that were intangible
2) Thor can and has absorbed energy beings

When did I say he was using energy blasts and even if he can effect the intangible he reforms himself as many times as he wants..he can go into other dimensions not even thor could follow..based on he had no clue where he went after dispersing him..

DM cannot be killed..

Originally posted by Supra
go read the comic book, he is in having unlimited power; able to do anything. create anything, and destroy even his own creations and able to create life itself

show me him being harmed and not recovereing from it, i can show you plenty of times thor gets whaled on..

I love thor more then most but a beat down is a beat down

Manhattan claimed a lot of those things but didn't show it. Silver Surfer has just as much hyperbolic statements of his power and actually has the feats to show for it, too. And Surfer has been stalemated and beaten by Thor.

You have to realize that by Manhattan living in a world with no superpowers other than his own, of course he's going to look godlike.

I mean, if Thor can absorb energy from a universal entity such as the Phoenix Force, or absorb energy from a bomb capable of destroying a galaxy, there's really nothing to suggest he can't absorb the energy of Manhattan, who is just composed of atomic energy...paltry in comparison to the sources of energy Thor has contained.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Manhattan claimed a lot of those things but didn't show it. Silver Surfer has just as much hyperbolic statements of his power and actually has the feats to show for it, too. And Surfer has been stalemated and beaten by Thor.

You have to realize that by Manhattan living in a world with no superpowers other than his own, of course he's going to look godlike.

I mean, if Thor can absorb energy from a universal entity such as the Phoenix Force, or absorb energy from a bomb capable of destroying a galaxy, there's really nothing to suggest he can't absorb the energy of Manhattan, who is just composed of atomic energy...paltry in comparison to the sources of energy Thor has contained.

he had so much power he said "if there is a god, i am surely not him"

yet he cannot be killed..

Originally posted by Supra
go read the comic book, he is in having unlimited power; able to do anything. create anything, and destroy even his own creations and able to create life itself

show me him being harmed and not recovereing from it, i can show you plenty of times thor gets whaled on..

I love thor more then most but a beat down is a beat down He was never harmed because in his universe no superhuman beings were present...except HIM. Thousands of people died and he couldnt do shit about. Thor traps him in his hammer

Originally posted by iceman24567
He was never harmed because in his universe no superhuman beings were present...except HIM. Thousands of people died and he couldnt do shit about. Thor traps him in his hammer

We resorting to cussing now to fill blanks in knowledge?

Originally posted by Supra
When did I say he was using energy blasts and even if he can effect the intangible he reforms himself as many times as he wants..he can go into other dimensions not even thor could follow..based on he had no clue where he went after dispersing him..

DM cannot be killed..

Again, Thor can and has absorbed energy beings, please note that I specified energy beings and not energy blasts...in case you missed it...Thor can and has absorbed energy beings.

BTW, Thor can and has teleoprted bewteen dimensions.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, Thor can and has absorbed energy beings, please note that I specified energy beings and not energy blasts...in case you missed it...Thor can and has absorbed energy beings.

BTW, Thor can and has teleoprted bewteen dimensions.


Yes I know he has but how can he find and chose which one DM phases to? Can Thor now sense energy in other dimensions?

Originally posted by Supra
he had so much power he said "if there is a god, i am surely not him"

yet he cannot be killed..

Manhattan says a lot of shit, though. I can find dozens of examples of Surfer monologuing over the Power Cosmic and how his power knows no limits. Hell, I can find plenty of examples of Thor monologuing over how mighty he is. Thing is, both Surfer and Thor have tons of feats at least backing up their claims. Manhattan doesn't. And again, he lives in a world with no other superpowered beings.

He can't be killed in the sense that, typically, energy cannot be created or destroyed as science would tell us. In the world of comics, that's not true. A sufficiently powerful enough energy manipulator would just absorb Manhattan or dissipate him. And the likes of Thor and Surfer are exponentially more powerful than the machines that briefly dispersed Manhattan.

Originally posted by Supra
We resorting to cussing now to fill blanks in knowledge? Nice dodging ignoring facts because i said the S word oh no .

Originally posted by Supra
Yes I know he has but how can he find and chose which one DM phases to? Can Thor now sense energy in other dimensions?

Mjolnir can, yes.

It's tracking abilities transcend dimensions and have for, well, pretty much since Thor was created as a character. Furthermore, if Manhattan warps to another dimension, leaving the battleground, that would be a self BFR.

Originally posted by Supra
Yes I know he has but how can he find and chose which one DM phases to? Can Thor now sense energy in other dimensions?

As a matter of fact, yes...Thor can and has used Mjolnir to track.

Dr Manhattan doesn't even reform that quick...

And considering he was ripped to shreds by things nowhere near Thor level... that doesn't exactly bode well. After the 3rd or 4th time Thor tears him apart (and assuming we just wait around for Dr Manhattan to reform), he either absorbs him, or sends him into the sun like he's done before.

Also to the people that think reforming means you can't lose no matter the time, do you also think someone being knocked out for a comic page and getting up is proof that they can't be knocked out?

Although, imagine even someone like a noob Firestorm in that series. He'd be capable of EVERYTHING Dr Manhattan was and more, seeing as he probably wouldn't have been destroyed in the first place

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Manhattan says a lot of shit, though. I can find dozens of examples of Surfer monologuing over the Power Cosmic and how his power knows no limits. Hell, I can find plenty of examples of Thor monologuing over how mighty he is. Thing is, both Surfer and Thor have tons of feats at least backing up their claims. Manhattan doesn't. And again, he lives in a world with no other superpowered beings.

He can't be killed in the sense that, typically, energy cannot be created or destroyed as science would tell us. In the world of comics, that's not true. A sufficiently powerful enough energy manipulator would just absorb Manhattan or dissipate him. And the likes of Thor and Surfer are exponentially more powerful than the machines that briefly dispersed Manhattan.


Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Dr Manhattan doesn't even reform that quick...

And considering he was ripped to shreds by things nowhere near Thor level... that doesn't exactly bode well. After the 3rd or 4th time Thor tears him apart (and assuming we just wait around for Dr Manhattan to reform), he either absorbs him, sends him into the sun like he's done before.

Also to the people that think reforming means you can't lose no matter the time, do you also think someone being knocked out for a comic page and getting up is proof that they can't be knocked out?

Although, imagine even someone like a noob Firestorm in that series. He'd be capable of EVERYTHING Dr Manhattan was and more, seeing as he probably wouldn't have been destroyed in the first place


I will only debate with you two now as you are the only here who knows what they are talking about in this thread.

IF he cannot be killed and can transfer his energy when disbursed and re formed..how does he lost?

One thing if I may, if we are going to talk about Thor vs DM can we leave out SS and others here..this is about DM and Thor..

IF Thor dissipates him even though energy cannot be destroyed then he would ultimately reform correct?

Originally posted by Silent Master
As a matter of fact, yes...Thor can and has used Mjolnir to track. Recently during his run in with Ego. Thor has way more abilities than Manhatten

Originally posted by Supra
I will only debate with you two now as you are the only here who knows what they are talking about in this thread.

IF he cannot be killed and can transfer his energy when disbursed and re formed..how does he lost?

One thing if I may, if we are going to talk about Thor vs DM can we leave out SS and others here..this is about DM and Thor..

IF Thor dissipates him even though energy cannot be destroyed then he would ultimately reform correct? Which goes onto the KO'ed example.

Everything you said is applicable to Thor getting KO'ed. He will eventually get up. And I'd count a KO as less extreme than getting blasted to molecules. Also, the fact that Dr Manhattan pulls his pieces back together implies it would be even longer had he been completely scattered farther distances

Although I gave two perfectly reasonable ways for Thor win without counting on the length of time Dr Manhattan stays down.

Originally posted by Supra
I will only debate with you two now as you are the only here who knows what they are talking about in this thread.

IF he cannot be killed and can transfer his energy when disbursed and re formed..how does he lost?

One thing if I may, if we are going to talk about Thor vs DM can we leave out SS and others here..this is about DM and Thor..

IF Thor dissipates him even though energy cannot be destroyed then he would ultimately reform correct?

Again, Thor can and has absorbed energy beings....what part of this are you having trouble underestanding?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, Thor can and has absorbed energy beings....what part of this are you having trouble underestanding? Supra does a good job ignoring facts

Stop harassing the poor guy, you @$$holes.

uhuh

Originally posted by Supra
I will only debate with you now as you are the only here who knows what they are talking about in this thread.

IF he cannot be killed and can transfer his energy when disbursed and re formed..how does he lost?

One thing if I may, if we are going to talk about Thor vs DM can we leave out SS and others here..this is about DM and Thor..

IF Thor dissipates him even though energy cannot be destroyed then he would ultimately reform correct?

I do have a Doom sig/avatar. mmm

The thing to realize here is that, according to the Watchmen universe, Manhattan is effectively unkillable by their means. They don't have the ridiculous supertech the likes of which Marvel or DC has. They also don't have the insane superpowered beings that either company has. It's a very grounded take on superheroics.

The other thing to take into account is that Thor and Mjolnir specifically spit in the face of science and logic simply by existing. He's a god from myth and Mjolnir is a magically enchanted weapon of among the highest order. Many of the rules of science do not apply to either of them. If Thor incapacitates Manhattan long enough for a forum victory, Manhattan would lose. If he's absorbed into Mjolnir or scattered across time and space, he wouldn't be able to reform, arguably ever considering the scale in which Mjolnir can do these things.

Bringing up Silver Surfer is a very valid point, though. Surfer possesses many of the powers and abilities of Manhattan and to grander scales than what Manhattan displayed. And Thor has a winning record against him. It's perfectly logical to bring up the people Thor has beaten to argue in favor of him.

Typically, energy can't be destroyed, but Mjolnir is magic and as such is capable of feats that defy science and logic. Even if Manhattan can eventually reform, Thor is powerful enough to disperse and/or absorb Manhattan to such a degree he would be able to fight, therefore making Thor the inevitable winner in a battle.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I do have a Doom sig/avatar. mmm

The thing to realize here is that, according to the Watchmen universe, Manhattan is effectively unkillable by their means. They don't have the ridiculous supertech the likes of which Marvel or DC has. They also don't have the insane superpowered beings that either company has. It's a very grounded take on superheroics.

The other thing to take into account is that Thor and Mjolnir specifically spit in the face of science and logic simply by existing. He's a god from myth and Mjolnir is a magically enchanted weapon of among the highest order. Many of the rules of science do not apply to either of them. If Thor incapacitates Manhattan long enough for a forum victory, Manhattan would lose. If he's absorbed into Mjolnir or scattered across time and space, he wouldn't be able to reform, arguably ever considering the scale in which Mjolnir can do these things.

Bringing up Silver Surfer is a very valid point, though. Surfer possesses many of the powers and abilities of Manhattan and to grander scales than what Manhattan displayed. And Thor has a winning record against him. It's perfectly logical to bring up the people Thor has beaten to argue in favor of him.

Typically, energy can't be destroyed, but Mjolnir is magic and as such is capable of feats that defy science and logic. Even if Manhattan can eventually reform, Thor is powerful enough to disperse and/or absorb Manhattan to such a degree he would be able to fight, therefore making Thor the inevitable winner in a battle. All of this is assuming Dr Manhattan can't be KO'ed in the first place. I mean, just because the only things that damaged him destroyed him, that doesn't say he can't lose consciousness. Because we all know how that works in comics.
Manhattan would probably end up receiving a mollywhopping KO from Superman the first time they met.

But I digress. Best to go off proof, instead of making shit up like the Dr Manhattan supporters.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I do have a Doom sig/avatar. mmm

The thing to realize here is that, according to the Watchmen universe, Manhattan is effectively unkillable by their means. They don't have the ridiculous supertech the likes of which Marvel or DC has. They also don't have the insane superpowered beings that either company has. It's a very grounded take on superheroics.

The other thing to take into account is that Thor and Mjolnir specifically spit in the face of science and logic simply by existing. He's a god from myth and Mjolnir is a magically enchanted weapon of among the highest order. Many of the rules of science do not apply to either of them. If Thor incapacitates Manhattan long enough for a forum victory, Manhattan would lose. If he's absorbed into Mjolnir or scattered across time and space, he wouldn't be able to reform, arguably ever considering the scale in which Mjolnir can do these things.

Bringing up Silver Surfer is a very valid point, though. Surfer possesses many of the powers and abilities of Manhattan and to grander scales than what Manhattan displayed. And Thor has a winning record against him. It's perfectly logical to bring up the people Thor has beaten to argue in favor of him.

Typically, energy can't be destroyed, but Mjolnir is magic and as such is capable of feats that defy science and logic. Even if Manhattan can eventually reform, Thor is powerful enough to disperse and/or absorb Manhattan to such a degree he would be able to fight, therefore making Thor the inevitable winner in a battle.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
All of this is assuming Dr Manhattan can't be KO'ed in the first place. I mean, just because the only things that damaged him destroyed him, that doesn't say he can't lose consciousness. Because we all know how that works in comics.
Manhattan would probably end up receiving a mollywhopping KO from Superman the first time they met.

But I digress. Best to go off proof, instead of making shit up like the Dr Manhattan supporters.

Oh, I have no doubt that the likes of Thor would physically hurt him with a punch, let alone with Mjolnir. As you said, comics routinely show us that beings made out of energy can be hurt and even KO'd.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Which goes onto the KO'ed example.

Everything you said is applicable to Thor getting KO'ed. He will eventually get up. And I'd count a KO as less extreme than getting blasted to molecules. Also, the fact that Dr Manhattan pulls his pieces back together implies it would be even longer had he been completely scattered farther distances

Although I gave two perfectly reasonable ways for Thor win without counting on the length of time Dr Manhattan stays down.

Ok I agree with you, those..

Now how come DM cannot disintegrate Thor in the same way? He commands the atoms and energy itself which bind Thors makeup does he not?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I do have a Doom sig/avatar. mmm

The thing to realize here is that, according to the Watchmen universe, Manhattan is effectively unkillable by their means. They don't have the ridiculous supertech the likes of which Marvel or DC has. They also don't have the insane superpowered beings that either company has. It's a very grounded take on superheroics.

The other thing to take into account is that Thor and Mjolnir specifically spit in the face of science and logic simply by existing. He's a god from myth and Mjolnir is a magically enchanted weapon of among the highest order. Many of the rules of science do not apply to either of them. If Thor incapacitates Manhattan long enough for a forum victory, Manhattan would lose. If he's absorbed into Mjolnir or scattered across time and space, he wouldn't be able to reform, arguably ever considering the scale in which Mjolnir can do these things.

Bringing up Silver Surfer is a very valid point, though. Surfer possesses many of the powers and abilities of Manhattan and to grander scales than what Manhattan displayed. And Thor has a winning record against him. It's perfectly logical to bring up the people Thor has beaten to argue in favor of him.

Typically, energy can't be destroyed, but Mjolnir is magic and as such is capable of feats that defy science and logic. Even if Manhattan can eventually reform, Thor is powerful enough to disperse and/or absorb Manhattan to such a degree he would be able to fight, therefore making Thor the inevitable winner in a battle.

You have proven to me beyond a reasonable doubt with your knowledge that DM would lose..

Thank you for helping me understand things I wish to learn about

Originally posted by Supra
Ok I agree with you, those..

Now come come DM cannot disintegrate Thor in the same way? He commands the atoms and energy itself which bind Thors makeup does he not?

Because 1) Dr Manhattan has no feats of doing so to someone/thing with Thor's durability and 2) Thor actually has feats where he's resisted being transmuted

Originally posted by Silent Master
Because 1) Dr Manhattan has no feats of doing so to someone/thing with Thor's durability and 2) Thor actually has feats where he's resisted being transmuted

Now I know, thank you

Originally posted by Supra
Ok I agree with you, those..

Now come come DM cannot disintegrate Thor in the same way? He commands the atoms and energy itself which bind Thors makeup does he not?

In the world of comics, most beings with superhuman strength and durability are strong and tough because of their atomic structure being much much more denser and "tougher" as a result.

The Destroyer Armor actually has a disintegration ray as its primary weapon and couldn't disintegrate Thor. It eventually killed him in one of their battles, sure, but physically, Thor's body was still intact. And again, Manhattan was able to disperse human beings with no super powers or enhanced atomic structure and tanks. Doing that is one thing. Disintegrating, let alone killing someone with ridiculous energy resistance feats like Thor is something else entirely.

Originally posted by Supra
You have proven to me beyond a reasonable doubt with your knowledge that DM would lose..

Thank you for helping me understand things I wish to learn about



No problem.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
In the world of comics, most beings with superhuman strength and durability are strong and tough because of their atomic structure being much much more denser and "tougher" as a result.

The Destroyer Armor actually has a disintegration ray as its primary weapon and couldn't disintegrate Thor. It eventually killed him in one of their battles, sure, but physically, Thor's body was still intact. And again, Manhattan was able to disperse human beings with no super powers or enhanced atomic structure and tanks. Doing that is one thing. Disintegrating, let alone killing someone with ridiculous energy resistance feats like Thor is something else entirely.

So Thor can die but his body is still intact..how does that work I do not understand that

Ummm... nonviable thread? Manhattan feats vs any other herald are non-existent and we never see him push the upper limits of his capabilities so I don't see how he even be used in a herald vs herald fight he just doesn't have the feats. I mean there is nothing that says he has energy absorbtion immunity or not, his projection/molecular manip has nothing to contest it so yeah.... I don't see how you can argue him as for anything besides classifying his perceived powerset as herald level.

Originally posted by Supra
So Thor can die but his body is still intact..how does that work I do not understand that

He experiences pain and trauma like most beings do (though his tolerance for both are obviously extreme), but his body is just that durable enough to exist. In the case of the Destroyer Armor, his body is pretty burnt up and mangled, but still physically intact.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He experiences pain and trauma like most beings do (though his tolerance for both are obviously extreme), but his body is just that durable enough to exist. In the case of the Destroyer Armor, his body is pretty burnt up and mangled, but still physically intact.

So Thor truly is an immortal for his body cannot be destroyed even by disintegration and thus he can return to his lifeless body because of the Magics of Odin?

Thor can never truly never cease to exist then..

Originally posted by Supra
So Thor truly is an immortal for his body cannot be destroyed even by disintegration and thus he can return to his lifeless body because of the Magics of Odin?

Thor can never truly never cease to exist then..

Technically, Thor's immortality is linked to the Golden Apples of Iduun, all are all Asgardians (though some writers make them less dependant on this than others). His body CAN be destroyed, mind you, it just takes a powerful enough being/attack to do so. The Destroyer Armor was powerful enough to kill Thor, just not completely vaporize him.

The Odin Force did revive Thor, though, restoring his soul back to his body and fully healed. That said, he can be killed and even completely obliterated by something/someone powerful enough to do it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
That said, he can be killed and even completely obliterated by something/someone powerful enough to do it.

Which we have yet to see in print?

thor unless manhatan produces feats to match his implied power levels

Thor.

I was going to do a write up, but my Doombot Jake has already done so.

Thanks, Doombot!

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He uses energy absorption a lot. And he's absorbed living energy before. It's not even an OOC tactic for him.

Thor can effect intangible beings and can teleport himself and others, too, for the record.

Manhattan looking in the future doesn't mean he can change the outcome of the inevitable. Kinda the whole point of Watchmen. Thor can do plenty to him, too.

DM is made of solid matter just like Surfer is. Thor doesn't absorb solid matter beings. Thor absorbs energy blasts, explosions, and drains energy from devices. Sorry but I don't see Thor pointing Mjolnir at DM and absorbing him into the hammer. Otherwise he can do Surfer or any being in existence like that.

DM will become intangible to avoid an attack, nothing more.

Ozy prevented DM from seeing into the future to prevent him from stopping his plan. The inevitable is something DM can't stop even if he tried.

Why do you keep ignoring that Thor can effect intangible beings?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why do you keep ignoring that Thor can effect intangible beings? I didn't. I addressed it by saying that DM would only become intangible to avoid Thor's attacks. Thor wont use an intangible attack if DM is not intangible (because it would be useless). Rather he would use a normal attack.

Actually I curious. Are you referring to the Vision feat as a basis that Thor can affect intangible beings?

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't. I addressed it by saying that DM would only become intangible to avoid Thor's attacks. Thor wont use an intangible attack if DM is not intangible (because it would be useless). Rather he would use a normal attack.

If DM goes intangible, then Thor will start using attacks that will effect the intangible, which means that going intangible isn't going to help.

Now please stop ignoring facts.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If DM goes intangible, then Thor will start using attacks that will effect the intangible, which means that going intangible isn't going to help.

Now please stop ignoring facts.

DM will only be intangible to avoid the attack. He wouldn't stay that way. Also what feat or showing you are suggesting that proves Thor can affect the intangible? Is it the vision feat?

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor would have to fight really weird to think of that. Plus Plus Manhattan can go intangible or solid mass or teleport to prevent it.
Anyway Manhattan is always looking into the future. So Thor can do nothing.

He can look but he cant change nothing. He said that. This wont will help much in a fight.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
He can look but he cant change nothing. He said that. This wont will help much in a fight.

Prove it. That makes no sense. If DM see someone about to shoot a blast at him then he can alter it by moving out of the way. Ozy used the weapon to prevent DM from seeing into the future.

Originally posted by h1a8
Prove it. That makes no sense. If DM see someone about to shoot a blast at him then he can alter it by moving out of the way. Ozy used the weapon to prevent DM from seeing into the future.

Read the comic again. Please. Anymore and you're just trolling, as it was spelled quite clearly.

Neither is this a comic with 100s of issues for you to dig through.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
He can look but he cant change nothing. He said that. This wont will help much in a fight. This being able to see the future has its limits. Thor traps DM in his hammer

Here is: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/123441/2927965-1600412_5_super.jpg

He is a "Puppet who can see the Strings".

Also, like everyone know, Surfer can do everything Dr. can do, and more.

He also can see " past and future" : http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_138_06.jpg

Still, he dont have a free over Thor because of that.

Damn you eabiakuya for doing his homework for him.

This is Ozy/KP all over again. Worse, because at least KP has decades of history to trawl through.

Originally posted by iceman24567
This being able to see the future has its limits. Thor traps DM in his hammer

See what I mean?
People have Thor doing crazy shit yet Glads can't use simple speed to fight. That makes no sense. It's not like I made Gladiator used tactics that's very creative and against his character. But for Thor it's fair game.

Prove that Thor can absorb beings into Mjolnir please.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Also, like everyone know, Surfer can do everything Dr. can do, and more.

He also can see " past and future" : http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_138_06.jpg

Still, he dont have a free over Thor because of that.

He doesn't always do that though, especially in battle. DM is constantly looking into the future at all times.

Yes, but he said he is unable to change, you read ?

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Yes, but he said he is unable to change, you read ?

Surfer has nothing to do with DM

Im talking about Dr.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
Im talking about Dr. That doesn't mean anything. He can still make choices. Like how he chose to let comedian shoot that woman because he didn't like humans that much. He still had free will. So you are making no sense. He can see himself avoiding the attack because he saw it coming. Those are the strings.

He is still a puppet, with no control over his future. He just is aware of it

Vision and Shadow Cat to name of few Thor has affected

Originally posted by h1a8
He doesn't always do that though, especially in battle. DM is constantly looking into the future at all times.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/114312/2148272-thormjolnir193_energyabsorptionaemh.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111132618/3377490-2053722-thormjolnir164_lifeforceeradication.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir145b-EnergyAbsorptionAve.jpg

Again people ignoring whats probably the biggest issue here. Dr. Manhattan has 0, Nunca, aucun, Nada etc. etc. showings against anything above street level and hearsay. We have no idea what his energy resistance stands at. Mjolnir might be able to absorb his body/energy but we know he can reform from having his intrinsic field holding his atoms together. We also know he did it with relative ease. What we don't know is how easy it is for him to do it multiple times. 3 times, a dozen, infinitely. We know that his perception is really good i.e. when he comments to ozzy about how he sees the world followed by his statement that Ozzy means no more to him than a roach. But how does any of this apply to a fight with a herald level being let alone a top tier herald... Nothing I mean this is an absolute moot point we have no idea how good his attacks would do if he simply deconstructed Thor on a molecular level. Does he have the power to overcome Thor's defenses against such an attack or is it rendered completely useless.

Is anyone else seeing the problem here.

Originally posted by Supra
Yes I know he has but how can he find and chose which one DM phases to? Can Thor now sense energy in other dimensions?


You are grasping at straw's man.

Originally posted by h1a8
DM will only be intangible to avoid the attack. He wouldn't stay that way. Also what feat or showing you are suggesting that proves Thor can affect the intangible? Is it the vision feat?

Which won't work because Thor can affect intangible beings and has better speed feats than Dr M.

Now please stop ignoring facts.

Not sure Thor can put DM down.
DM could just phase through every Thor attack, magic is not something we meet - at all - in Watchmen-verse.

So no reason to suppose Thor's attacks will do anything other than strictly physical damage and DM can reform from atomisation, like Sentry does and Thor doesn't seem to have an answer to that.

Originally posted by janus77
Not sure Thor can put DM down.
DM could just phase through every Thor attack, magic is not something we meet - at all - in Watchmen-verse.

So no reason to suppose Thor's attacks will do anything other than strictly physical damage and DM can reform from atomisation, like Sentry does and Thor doesn't seem to have an answer to that.

Except going intangible doesn't actually help as Thor can effect intangible beings.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Except going intangible doesn't actually help as Thor can effect intangible beings.
He can?

Didn't seem to have anything other than a few hammer strikes against Sentry. Who basically just reforms like DM/Surfer any matter manipulator.

Originally posted by janus77
He can?

Didn't seem to have anything other than a few hammer strikes against Sentry. Who basically just reforms like DM/Surfer any matter manipulator.

Multiple people have been pointing that out for pages, Darkone even gave two examples just a few posts ago.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Multiple people have been pointing that out for pages, Darkone even gave two examples just a few posts ago.
I've not gone through the whole thread, but who were the intangibles?

Darkone even gave two examples just a few posts ago.,IE page 4.

Ah, I thought you meant scans/context/details.

Not sure how Shadow Cat and Vision compare with DM. I see DM as sort of a Surfer-lite, with the benefit of having only a limited number of showings and a high % of them demonstrating utilisation of de-materialisation and reformation and such.

Vision alters his density, iirc. Shadow Cat ... Not sure about her.

They show that Thor can effect intangible beings.

Oh is it that time of year where we speculate Manhattan and what he can do again? How I enjoy people call him a god and treat him like the end all be all of powerful characters in a world where he's really the only super powered being. It's not like that title and wank of power loses any meaning or translation when compared to other characters on bigger or similar scales of power.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Thor.

I was going to do a write up, but my Doombot Jake has already done so.

Thanks, Doombot!

Blasphemer.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Which won't work because Thor can affect intangible beings and has better speed feats than Dr M.

Now please stop ignoring facts. show me a feat Thor affecting intangible beings. The vision feat doesn't count as he wasn't intangible.

Also how Thor would affect DM?
You know DM would only phase through Thors attacks.
What is your answer to DM seeing into the future? Or DM teleporting Thor to black hole?

Originally posted by h1a8
show me a feat Thor affecting intangible beings. The vision feat doesn't count as he wasn't intangible.

Also how Thor would affect DM?
You know DM would only phase through Thors attacks.
What is your answer to DM seeing into the future? Or DM teleporting Thor to black hole?

The Vision feat does count because Mjolnir was physically inside his chest, IOW that part of the Vision was intangible...so once again I have to ask you to stop lying. plus there is still the SK feat that the Darkone mentioned.

As for teleporting Thor into a black hole, Thor can just fly or teleport out.

Manhattan seeing into the future just means he'd see how Thor is going to kick his ass. His foresight doesn't enable him to change the future...which again, was one of the major points of Watchmen.

Also, based on feats, Manhattan isn't going to win a teleportation war with Thor.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Manhattan seeing into the future just means he'd see how Thor is going to kick his ass. His foresight doesn't enable him to change the future...which again, was one of the major points of Watchmen.

Also, based on feats, Manhattan isn't going to win a teleportation war with Thor. No, Ozy prevented DM from changing anything by blocking his future vision. Also, you are making stuff up. DM still has choice. He chooses to do what he wants. It's all based on his desire. If he wants to avoid an attack then he will. But he can't change what he will decide to do.

Also DM can simply teleport Thor's head off or rather Thor to a black hole where immediate death awaits.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The Vision feat does count because Mjolnir was physically inside his chest, IOW that part of the Vision was intangible...so once again I have to ask you to stop lying. plus there is still the SK feat that the Darkone mentioned.

As for teleporting Thor into a black hole, Thor can just fly or teleport out. Being inside vision's chest doesn't mean vision was intangible. Vision alters his density. He could have been water density or air density when Thor did that. He was hardening his body when Thor did that, so he wasn't 100% intangible.

I want to see the Shadow Cat feat and make my own judgements thank you.

Originally posted by h1a8
No, Ozy prevented DM from changing anything by blocking his future vision. Also, you are making stuff up. DM still has choice. He chooses to do what he wants. It's all based on his desire. If he wants to avoid an attack then he will. But he can't change what he will decide to do.

From the Big Blue himself:

I mean, why didn't you do something?

I CAN'T PREVENT THE FUTURE. TO ME, IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/qwirtle/Watchmen0416_zps550d64ad.jpg

SNEER

Originally posted by h1a8
Being inside vision's chest doesn't mean vision was intangible. Vision alters his density. He could have been water density or air density when Thor did that. He was hardening his body when Thor did that, so he wasn't 100% intangible.

I want to see the Shadow Cat feat and make my own judgements thank you.

His hand was also inside Thor's chest, dooder.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
His hand was also inside Thor's chest, dooder.

Vision's hand can be inside Thor with ANY density.
Vision increases his density and can become diamond hard, all while being inside Thor's chest.

we continue this pointless thread after DM already lost...

Originally posted by h1a8
Being inside vision's chest doesn't mean vision was intangible. Vision alters his density. He could have been water density or air density when Thor did that. He was hardening his body when Thor did that, so he wasn't 100% intangible.

I want to see the Shadow Cat feat and make my own judgements thank you.

Actually, yes it does...plus there is still the SK example....so stop ignoring the facts...Thor can and has effected intangible beings.

Originally posted by h1a8
Vision's hand can be inside Thor with ANY density.
Vision increases his density and can become diamond hard, all while being inside Thor's chest. Vision wants to be inside Thor? Cute

Originally posted by h1a8
Vision's hand can be inside Thor with ANY density.
Vision increases his density and can become diamond hard, all while being inside Thor's chest.

So Thor has a hand shaped hole in his chest? Even if it was the density of air, it still has volume and mass. Which needs to be displaced. You're just trolling now.

Originally posted by janus77
I've not gone through the whole thread, but who were the intangibles?

DM can make himself intangible

Originally posted by Supra
DM can make himself intangible

Doesn't help against a mystical mallet.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Doesn't help against a mystical mallet.

Why not? Thor throws the hammer and it goes right through him. Thor tries to slam and the hammer goes right through him.

After thinking about it DM beats Thor easily. Teleport the hammer away, atomize Thor, teleport Thor to black hole, teleport Thor's head off, **** Thor's insides up. All just by thinking about it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So Thor has a hand shaped hole in his chest? Even if it was the density of air, it still has volume and mass. Which needs to be displaced. You're just trolling now.

Vision increases his density while inside his victims chest. That means his density is ever increasing as time passes. Otherwise vision would not be able to harden at all. This is not "hard" to understand.

Manhattan has no feats of being able to atomize someone like Thor, let alone teleport organs or body parts off. facepalm

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Manhattan has no feats of being able to atomize someone like Thor, let alone teleport organs or body parts off. facepalm Manhattan has no feats of fighting somebody on Thors level

Originally posted by Uriel005
Again people ignoring whats probably the biggest issue here. Dr. Manhattan has 0, Nunca, aucun, Nada etc. etc. showings against anything above street level and hearsay. We have no idea what his energy resistance stands at. Mjolnir might be able to absorb his body/energy but we know he can reform from having his intrinsic field holding his atoms together. We also know he did it with relative ease. What we don't know is how easy it is for him to do it multiple times. 3 times, a dozen, infinitely. We know that his perception is really good i.e. when he comments to ozzy about how he sees the world followed by his statement that Ozzy means no more to him than a roach. But how does any of this apply to a fight with a herald level being let alone a top tier herald... Nothing I mean this is an absolute moot point we have no idea how good his attacks would do if he simply deconstructed Thor on a molecular level. Does he have the power to overcome Thor's defenses against such an attack or is it rendered completely useless.

Is anyone else seeing the problem here. to restate the issue.... can someone close this thread. I think its pretty clear its a moot point because there is nothing to compare Dr. Manhattan to in his home universe to say how he would do in a herald level+ fight.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Manhattan has no feats of being able to atomize someone like Thor, let alone teleport organs or body parts off. facepalm Does that mean he can't do it? Does having no feats prove that one can't do something? If it doesn't then fight is inconclusive and thread is over.

My reasoning was that DM can control not only molecules, but subatomic particles. He has also been shown to teleport matter (which is made of molecules). So logically speaking, DM can teleport any matter he chooses, that means organs, heads, etc. Durability doesn't protect against being teleported. That's why Nightcrawler can teleport heads off.

Originally posted by Uriel005
to restate the issue.... can someone close this thread. I think its pretty clear its a moot point because there is nothing to compare Dr. Manhattan to in his home universe to say how he would do in a herald level+ fight.

Pretty much , Manhattan thinks he's a god, we will see when he faces a real God in Thor who is not only a Thunder God but also a God of War. Manhattan sh** in his pants after he sees the future as Thor beats the living sh** out of him and there is nothing Manhattan can do about it accept take his a$$ whooping like a man!!

Manhattan doesn't think that he's a god.

Originally posted by h1a8


Vision increases his density while inside his victims chest. That means his density is ever increasing as time passes. Otherwise vision would not be able to harden at all. This is not "hard" to understand.

So how did his hand get into his chest in the first place?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So how did his hand get into his chest in the first place?

Easy. Vision was first intangible to enter his chest. After that he was increasing his density. So he became tangible while in Thor's chest when Thor affected him.

Pretty sure Manhattan would beat Iron Man. Anyone above that level...idk.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Pretty sure Manhattan would beat Iron Man. Anyone above that level...idk. The problem is whether he can beat anyone above IM but not whether anyone above IM can beat him. IMO, I don't see anyway beating someone who can reform over and over, duplicate himself many times, grow to maybe any size, become intangible to phase through attacks, has shown Planck reflexes, and can see into the future.

Also I believe he can beat most beings above IM by simply separating their atoms or teleporting parts of their body off or simply teleporting them to black holes, core of stars, etc.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Pretty sure Manhattan would beat Iron Man. Anyone above that level...idk.

Iron would be dead on a door step if DM put his gaze on him

DM Wins

Originally posted by Supra
DM Wins You can't argue it either way. Just like how Surfer has molecular manips does not necessarily mean he instakills hulk. He has to overcome durability/resistances/defenses. Manhattan has no showings one way or the other to say how he would do.

Originally posted by Uriel005
Just like how Surfer has molecular manips does not necessarily mean he instakills hulk

Or it could also be cis/pis coming into play.

Originally posted by Uriel005
You can't argue it either way. Just like how Surfer has molecular manips does not necessarily mean he instakills hulk. He has to overcome durability/resistances/defenses. Manhattan has no showings one way or the other to say how he would do. The problem is that Surfer hardly ever tries to matter manipulate anyone. The one's he tried it on worked.

Also Surfer's matter manipulation isn't the same as DM's matter manipulation. Surfer needs to shoot blasts to matter manipulate. DM can matter manipulate just by thinking about it. He not only controls matter at a fine degree (below the sub atomic level) but time and space as well.
He has the option of matter manipulate or teleportation or a combination of both.
I see DM as basically omnipotent (potentially anyways).

Originally posted by h1a8
The problem is that Surfer hardly ever tries to matter manipulate anyone. The one's he tried it on worked.

Also Surfer's matter manipulation isn't the same as DM's matter manipulation. Surfer needs to shoot blasts to matter manipulate. DM can matter manipulate just by thinking about it. He not only controls matter at a fine degree (below the sub atomic level) but time and space as well.
He has the option of matter manipulate or teleportation or a combination of both.
I see DM as basically omnipotent (potentially anyways).

Only DM has zero feats to suggest that he's omnipotent, this is just another example of you making things up.

Originally posted by h1a8

I see DM as basically omnipotent (potentially anyways).



Originally posted by h1a8

I never claimed he was omnipotent. It's irrelevant one way or the other.

DM wins

Originally posted by Silent Master
Only DM has zero feats to suggest that he's omnipotent, this is just another example of you making things up.

lol go read the comic, you are wrong as usual

From other thread..sums this thread up

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos can't do anything physical to DM. DM can reform, duplicate to multiple beings, become intangible, grow to immense sizes, etc. DM can either matter manipulate Thanos, teleport parts of his body off, or simply teleport him to black holes. DM isn't just going to sit there and allow Thanos to do his best.



When has Thor absorbed a being into Mjolnir? Come on now. You telling me Thor has done those things? We all know DM can teleport beings away because he has done it. So inferring that DM (genius level intellect) can teleport someone to a black hole is wrong? While inferring what Thor can do isn't?(when he never specifically done such things in a comic)

Healing factor doesn't protect you from getting your atoms separated instantly or parts of your body teleported away. DM has options. If all options fail then teleporting to a black hole is feasible.

Originally posted by Supra
lol go read the comic, you are wrong as usual

Then by all means, post the feats.

DM isn't omnipotent.

He could only stop 99% of all nukes headed to America.
He couldn't be everywhere at once (Ozy's words)
He couldn't stop Comedian from killing the Vietnamese woman, or even reverse the killing after it was done.
He couldn't stop JFK from being killed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
DM isn't omnipotent.

He could only stop 99% of all nukes headed to America.
He couldn't be everywhere at once (Ozy's words)
He couldn't stop Comedian from killing the Vietnamese woman, or even reverse the killing after it was done.
He couldn't stop JFK from being killed.

You know the Vietnamese Woman thing was because DM just really didn't give a **** right.

He said it multiple times before, he doesn't really care what mankind ultimately do with there lives. Maybe not in those exact words.

DM sees and changes what suits him, not what suits Humankind. That's why he didn't let the world know it was Ozy that killed all of those people. Because in the end it wouldn't really benefit him.

It's stupid to think that a genius like DM, that can see events before they unfolds can't think of a way of winning.

DM gives himself prep even before the fight even began.

Originally posted by SquallX
You know the Vietnamese Woman thing was because DM just really didn't give a **** right.

He said it multiple times before, he doesn't really care what mankind ultimately do with there lives. Maybe not in those exact words.

DM sees and changes what suits him, not what suits Humankind. That's why he didn't let the world know it was Ozy that killed all of those people. Because in the end it wouldn't really benefit him.

It's stupid to think that a genius like DM, that can see events before they unfolds can't think of a way of winning.

DM gives himself prep even before the fight even began.

Am currently arguing this with h1a8 at the moment, but no, he doesn't change things 'just to suit him'. He made this decision in the past, but for DM, the past is the future is the present:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/qwirtle/BeforeWatchmen-DrManhattan004-010_zpsd5c67138.jpg

In addition, 'changing the future' doesn't mean the original timeline gets erased. So say for example, Thor pummels him with Mjolnir. He sees this in advance, and moves his head out of the way. All that means is that he creates a second reality where he doesn't get hit. The first reality, where his face got punched in, still exists:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/qwirtle/BeforeWatchmenDrManhattan003-Zone-005_zpsfe3dae29.jpg

Not to mention, his own words: 'I can't prevent the future'.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/qwirtle/Watchmen0416_zps550d64ad.jpg

Ozymandias later creates his machine to interfere with DM's future vision, because he is paranoid and has contingency plans for everything. It doesn't mean that DM would have actually stopped him, had he known about it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
this is just another example of you making things up.
Dude, it's Supra. That's all he ever does.

Originally posted by janus77
I've not gone through the whole thread, but who were the intangibles?

Surtur at one time was attacked by the Black knight wielding the ebony blade.The ebony blade by the way was able to cut the Android Vision while being intangible.Yet the same ebony blade went straight through Surtur without getting cut as if you're wielding a sword and trying to cut fire.Yet Thor with his hammer Mjolnir hit Surtur and made him feel pain.Vision also tried being intangible but got hit by Thor using Mjolnir.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not to mention, his own words: 'I can't prevent the future'.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b52/qwirtle/Watchmen0416_zps550d64ad.jpg

Ozymandias later creates his machine to interfere with DM's future vision, because he is paranoid and has contingency plans for everything. It doesn't mean that DM would have actually stopped him, had he known about it. He can't prevent the future he already sees himself doing (because it is the most logical thing to do). Meaning, if it is logical for him to duck an attack then this is the future he sees and thus can't prevent it.

This is supported by how DM used the future predictions to make actions in the past. This is supported by DM saying that Ozy was clever for using tachyons to prevent him from interfering.
This is supported by DM attempting to use predictions to try to find Ozy.

Originally posted by Igniz
Surtur at one time was attacked by the Black knight wielding the ebony blade.The ebony blade by the way was able to cut the Android Vision while being intangible.Yet the same ebony blade went straight through Surtur without getting cut as if you're wielding a sword and trying to cut fire.Yet Thor with his hammer Mjolnir hit Surtur and made him feel pain.Vision also tried being intangible but got hit by Thor using Mjolnir. LOL writer's have different interpretations. Surtur for the most part has been tangible (fire is tangible anyway). Otherwise he couldn't to touch or pick up anything, including his sword. Also Vision wasn't intangible at all. He was only intangible when entering Thor's chest. After that he started increasing his density (he became tangible) and that's when Thor affected him. Remember water is tangible and so is air.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When you are desperate looking for someone to make an error not only will you not find it but commit one of your own.









There is no contradiction here.
1. I said, "see" as in I believe (which is an opinion).
2. I said, "basically" which means not exactly
3. I said, "potentially" which means it is not the case yet.
4. DM was getting more powerful as the story progressed.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Dude, it's Supra. That's all he ever does.

Godspeed

Originally posted by Silent Master
Then by all means, post the feats.

Do you even know what omnipotent means. Please dont make me look it up for you..DM is that.

Originally posted by h1a8
When you are desperate looking for someone to make an error not only will you not find it but commit one of your own.









There is no contradiction here.
1. I said, "see" as in I believe (which is an opinion).
2. I said, "basically" which means not exactly
3. I said, "potentially" which means it is not the case yet.
4. DM was getting more powerful as the story progressed.


GOD BLESS AMERICA..Someone finally said it

Originally posted by h1a8
When you are desperate looking for someone to make an error not only will you not find it but commit one of your own.









There is no contradiction here.
1. I said, "see" as in I believe (which is an opinion).
2. I said, "basically" which means not exactly
3. I said, "potentially" which means it is not the case yet.
4. DM was getting more powerful as the story progressed. DM was not getting 'more powerful' as the story progressed he was shown using his already existing power level more.

And he still did not show anything coming close to Thor's power levels.

And this is what boils down to every DM vs High Herald debate.

DM never showed what he was truly capable of. There were some quantifiable notches given to him like he can only stop 99% of the nuclear warheads launched at the US.

Other than that he was a god character inserted into a world where he was the only superpowered being. Minus some of the time relational things(Even though Heralds possess those traits as well) beings like Superman, Thor, Surfer, Green Lantern would have been able to do the exact same things, and based on feats much more than DM ever did.

So what ends up happening in these threads is you get people arguing DM's powerset and implied power vs what was shown which isn't enough to take on Heralds.

Originally posted by Supra
Do you even know what omnipotent means. Please dont make me look it up for you..DM is that. A truly omnipotent being would have stopped 100% of those warheads without a doubt. Show Manhattens omnipotent power or shut up.

Originally posted by iceman24567
A truly omnipotent being would have stopped 100% of those warheads without a doubt. Show Manhattens omnipotent power or shut up.

Show me the war heads going off or shut up

Originally posted by Supra
Show me the war heads going off or shut up Good job showing you dont know what omnipotent means

Originally posted by iceman24567
Good job showing you dont know what omnipotent means

Good job showing the warheads going off. You still don't know what omnipotent means..It means being able to be in all places at once but have the same conscience and be able to control all your omnipotence under the same mind..

Meaning he can be in 1000 places at once and control each for as it was different than the next as show in the the series...

DM hype is ridiculous, he would get ass raped by Thor who is more versatile and vastly more powerful. Thor can literally bfr Manhattan and send him the crossroads and leave his a$$ their for all eternity.

Originally posted by the Darkone
DM hype is ridiculous, he would get ass raped by Thor who is more versatile and vastly more powerful. Thor can literally bfr Manhattan and send him the crossroads and leave his a$$ their for all eternity.

You shall not pass

Originally posted by Supra
Good job showing the warheads going off. You still don't know what omnipotent means..It means being able to be in all places at once but have the same conscience and be able to control all your omnipotence under the same mind..

Meaning he can be in 1000 places at once and control each for as it was different than the next as show in the the series... No

Originally posted by iceman24567
No

Yes

Originally posted by Supra
Yes Your definition is a cross between omnipresence and omnipotent Dr Manhatten was neither unless you can actually prove it.

Originally posted by Supra
Good job showing the warheads going off. You still don't know what omnipotent means..It means being able to be in all places at once but have the same conscience and be able to control all your omnipotence under the same mind..

Meaning he can be in 1000 places at once and control each for as it was different than the next as show in the the series...

Ozymandias said he couldn't be everywhere at once.

Originally posted by iceman24567
If showing a list of powers is all that was needed somebody would have done it already plus Thors list is longer even Loki can go intangible

So he can be on Mars and Earth at the same Time..yet hes not omnipotent..strange..what the hell do you call it?