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I was just curious to see who does people believe is faster in combat between this Marvel characters

So if Gladiator is 100

what are the following?

Thor
Hulk
Spiderman
Silver Surfer
Sentry

"Just curious"

uh-huh...

Originally posted by -Pr-
"Just curious"

uh-huh...

I am, I do not want to derail the other thread, so the obvious thing to do, is to open another thread. If this breaks the rules of threads you can close it if you want.

Lol

I know this is what you want to hear so here it is...

Thor 50
Spiderman 30
Hulk 1
Sentry 90
Surfer 100

Originally posted by carver9
I know this is what you want to hear so here it is...

Thor 0.5
Spiderman 30
Hulk 1
Sentry 90
Surfer 0

fix'd

Sentry at his best is the closest to Glads, rest doesn't really matter.

You put Spidey 2nd..?

SamZED was threatening me with a gun, I had no choice

Originally posted by carver9
I know this is what you want to hear so here it is...

Thor 50
Spiderman 30
Hulk 1
Sentry 90
Surfer 100
Thor 45 (but reaction time > 9000)
Spidey 30
Hulk 45
Sentry 100
Surfer 90

Current Hulk is faster than Thor imo.

Originally posted by carver9
Current Hulk is faster than Thor imo.
I agree for now.

Hulk 50

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thor 45 (but reaction time > 9000)
Spidey 30
Hulk 45 Yeah sure...

Originally posted by carver9
Current Hulk is faster than Thor imo.

Only current?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Yeah sure...

There's a popular ritual among thorbags involving getting hit in the head with a hammer durthor

You guys should really decide if you're talking about pure reflexes, or things like blitzing which is part travel speed part combat speed.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You guys should really decide if you're talking about pure reflexes, or things like blitzing which is part travel speed part combat speed.
I'm guessing all things considered when in combat??

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Only current?



There's a popular ritual among thorbags involving getting hit in the head with a hammer durthor
Thor can turn things up a notch when he doesn't have to play by the rules of lesser beings.

i typically view combat speed as a simple ability to overwhelm an opponent with physical attacks before the person can react to said attacks. glads is one of the very few in marvel who can blitz by that definition--many dc characters have shown that ability. using my own personal definition, i'd say:

thor--25
current hulk--30
spiderman--75
silver surfer--n/a (he's never performed that type of attack before, though he has used energy--still, i won't rate him, but by powerset, he should be at least as fast, or be able to perceive and react to attacks at least glads' level)
sentry--80

odd grouping though. it's really apples and oranges and difficult to gauge. can danny throw more punches than thor in, say, a 5sec span? i'd say yes, at least based on feats. does that mean thor COULDN'T throw as many punches? not sure about that. i'm using my limited definition, and what i've seen on panel. it doesn't follow necessarily that a much slower opponent would be unable to react DURING said blitz though. this is very difficult to sort through tbh.

Leo...

Have you been keeping up with Hulk?

i've missed the last couple issues, but yeah. i've enjoyed indestructible hulk and i actually like the increased emphasis on his speed. it's still a far cry from glads' level of speed though imo.

So you're aware of this?



http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12010.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12011.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12012.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/IndestructibleHulk12013.jpg

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/1307/26/hulk112.jpg

http://media.bestlittlesites.com/images/users/uploads/10300/HULK2012011_int_LR-3-4.jpg

This up there as well. I can also post him moving in a blur blitzing Ironman, or this.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14449206/IH-02-017.jpg.html

Or this...
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14061794/IH-01-15.jpg.html

Are you sure you've been keeping up with him? I can post more if you want. I'm trying to figure out why you ranked him so low...looking at his fts, his burst of speed, even his reflexes put him in 2nd place...that's minus flight of course.

lol i posted some of those scans in other threads.... a lot of straight line motion though. the one scene where he throws some punches at clear superspeeds is a little ambiguous and he still hasn't done enough for me to place him on spidey's level of blitzing. fact is, in the past, spidey has blitzed and easily danced around hulk, hence my thinking spidey is still clearly faster. that could certainly change, but i'd need to see more and more consistent speed-related feats from hulk though. i think combat speed entails the use of a complex set of motions: starting, stopping, jumping, punching, kicking. i've yet to really see anything like that from hulk. that's why i place the others so far below glads. someone like quicksilver or northstar would be much closer than spidey to me.

@Leo...

Those days are gone though. Back in the day Wolverine use to blitz him as well but looking at Hulk later fight against Wolverine, a weakened Hulk was going blow for blow with Thing and Wolverine.

As for speed. I think these are good showings.

Dodge Mjlonir and blitz Thor afterwards.

http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/Fernando072295/media/hulkvsavengers01_zps487bcb53.jpg.html

Catch Cap shield while blocking Ironman Uni beams at the same time.

http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/Fernando072295/media/hulkvsavengers02_zps78838d4b.jpg.html

Throws Cap shield at him and turn around in enough time to punch a blitzing Ironman in the face.

http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/Fernando072295/media/hulkvsavengers03_zpsdfec4c64.jpg.html

Catch Tony Uni Beams...

http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/Fernando072295/media/hulkvsavengers08_zpsd4b431dc.jpg.html

Hulk being fast =/= Hulk being as fast as the top heralds.

And he wasn't "catching" uni-beams.

i'm not sure what you're trying to convince me of here....are you saying he's faster than spidey? catching cap's shield is...ok, dodging the hammer is ok as well. spidey has done both pretty easily as well. dd has feats similar to those. i will concede that based on the most recent showings, i may have placed hulk a bit low. maybe 50 would be more appropriate, but i'm pretty certain that if hulk tried any of those blitzes on spidey, they would not be successful. spidey has too long a track record, and too many speed feats (combat style feats) for me to be saying hulk is faster than he is. so, if you wanted me to admit i may have come down a little low on hulk's score, consider your job well done. if you want me to say hulk is faster than spidey though, that isn't going to happen--least not yet.

He didn't blitz Thor, either.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Hulk blitzed the hell out of Thor.



Leo...

Naah, I was just trying to carry a debate. I don't have a problem with you thinking Spiderman is faster...Spidey has some of the best blitzing fts in comics...even blitzed characters with light speed showings. We can agree to disagree.

Originally posted by carver9
I know this is what you want to hear so here it is...

Thor 50
Spiderman 30
Hulk 1
Sentry 90
Surfer 100

Well that shows compliance

But don't lowball the Hulk just to please me.

Originally posted by carver9
Spidey has some of the best blitzing fts in comics...even blitzed characters with light speed showings.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/155/594/yesitis2.gif

Originally posted by Parmaniac
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/155/594/yesitis2.gif

Minus Goku of course.

I've noticed that debates that do not include inter company characters tend to be more civil and less heated.

group

Anyway here is my take on it

Thor: 35
Hulk: 45
Spiderman: 55
Silver Surfer: (this one is hard his senses should be FLT, but somehow his limbs do not move at those speeds, though I believe He can match the Hulk)
Sentry: 75

Punching Thor = blitzing him I guess.

Hulk's always been fast. Apperently adding in blurry lines though is what makes you a speedster.

Originally posted by carver9


Leo...

Naah, I was just trying to carry a debate. I don't have a problem with you thinking Spiderman is faster...Spidey has some of the best blitzing fts in comics...even blitzed characters with light speed showings. We can agree to disagree.

indeed he has....and again, i think combat speed is different from hulk has been CONSISTENTLY showing. in a running race he'd crush spidey. in a contest of who could land the most punches in a tiny span of time, i'd take spidey fo'sho. good job with the scans though. that is indeed how you carry a debate.

Originally posted by carver9
@Leo...

Those days are gone though. Back in the day Wolverine use to blitz him as well but looking at Hulk later fight against Wolverine, a weakened Hulk was going blow for blow with Thing and Wolverine.

As for speed. I think these are good showings.

Dodge Mjlonir and blitz Thor afterwards.

http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/Fernando072295/media/hulkvsavengers01_zps487bcb53.jpg.html

Catch Cap shield while blocking Ironman Uni beams at the same time.

http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/Fernando072295/media/hulkvsavengers02_zps78838d4b.jpg.html

Throws Cap shield at him and turn around in enough time to punch a blitzing Ironman in the face.

http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/Fernando072295/media/hulkvsavengers03_zpsdfec4c64.jpg.html

Catch Tony Uni Beams...

http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/Fernando072295/media/hulkvsavengers08_zpsd4b431dc.jpg.html


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL... You're working too hard for this one Carver "Catching Tony's Uni-beam?

You mean blocking it right?

Scandaddy Carvster

Where's Hulk doing some super speed swimming ?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Scandaddy Carvster

Where's Hulk doing some super speed swimming ?

Originally posted by carver9

I'm serious. Didn't he punk some dragon recently with super speed?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I'm serious. Didn't he punk some dragon recently with super speed?

Thought you was trying to be funny. Yes, he did...at blinding speeds. Rapped his tail around him before he could react.

http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot7_zps16e150cc.jpg.html?sort=3&o=14
http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot8_zps64756ecb.jpg.html?sort=3&o=13