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I know very little about Narnia, but I'm pretty sure ME is stronger than Westeros.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I know very little about Narnia, but I'm pretty sure ME is stronger than Westeros. The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe was very well done.

I don't think Narnia has anything of worth besides the Witch (whose name is lost on me) and Jesus-lion.

Jesus Lion is a bona fide pocket dimension buster at the very least and can tell time what to do.

But as Quan is making this movie version only I can't remember anything good from Aslan there(he logically still created Narnia and such).

Originally posted by BloodRain
I don't think Narnia has anything of worth besides the Witch (whose name is lost on me) and Jesus-lion. You need to watch the movies again if you feel like Narnia is of no consequence.

I voted Narnia

Originally posted by quanchi112
You need to watch the movies again if you feel like Narnia is of no consequence. Eh, the animals and people weren't that fearsome.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Eh, the animals and people weren't that fearsome. The magic and what not definitely was. The armies were pretty impressive and can compete here. You act as if this army can't keep up with Westeros.

What was the most notable magic they had, besides the witch? They were impressive but lacking in power. And Westeros? IIRC the show so far has only shown two dozen Walkers and 3 teen dragons? Otherwise just strong humans, right?

Don't know anything about Narnia, but Middle Earth would crush Westeros. Unless there's some OP magical shenanigans, High Fantasy usually shits on Low/dark fantasy settings.

Originally posted by BloodRain
What was the most notable magic they had, besides the witch? They were impressive but lacking in power. And Westeros? IIRC the show so far has only shown two dozen Walkers and 3 teen dragons? Otherwise just strong humans, right? Lion, dragon, Witch, etc.

So your thing is to dismiss armies so matter of factor. Hilarious since Zelda games rarely if ever demonstrate an effective army.

Middle Earth. Narnia doesn't have the numbers, and Westeros is mostly untrained peasants.

Middle Earth has Smaug.

/thread

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lion, dragon, Witch, etc.

So your thing is to dismiss armies so matter of factor. Hilarious since Zelda games rarely if ever demonstrate an effective army. This isnt a Zelda thread. Keep up.

See, you're just agreeing with me. Theres barely any power in Narnia besides a few, and that power wont be enough. I have full permission to dismiss an army when its outclassed by the opposition.

LOTR stomps

Originally posted by BloodRain
This isnt a Zelda thread. Keep up.

See, you're just agreeing with me. Theres barely any power in Narnia besides a few, and that power wont be enough. I have full permission to dismiss an army when its outclassed by the opposition. But the same applies to them. Random nobodies with no real armies or organization.


Narnia has armies and a few beings with massive power. The difference is you seem to believe certain characters from your beloved franchise can solo despite proof to the contrary.

Ser Gregor Clegane chokeslams Sauron and breaks Aslan's back over his knee.

Is this a race to see which side beats Hyrule the fastest?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Is this a race to see which side beats Hyrule the fastest? You are starting to catch on.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Narnia has armies and a few beings with massive power.

The problem is that their armies are too small, barely a few thousand strong in the movies as I recall. Meanwhile Westeros and Middle Earth field armies of hundreds of thousands as a matter of course.

Between those two though, ME has the better troops and the more powerful beings. Sauron, the Nazgul, Balrog and Smaug are going to clean house.

Don't forget about Beorn, the Spiders, Witch King and all the Elves. As well as the Eagles and tons of Wargs. And Ogres.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The problem is that their armies are too small, barely a few thousand strong in the movies as I recall. Meanwhile Westeros and Middle Earth field armies of hundreds of thousands as a matter of course.

Between those two though, ME has the better troops and the more powerful beings. Sauron, the Nazgul, Balrog and Smaug are going to clean house. We have not seen hundreds of thousands of soldiers on the HBO series.

I never said Lotr didn't win but Narnia is no pushover and definitely defeats Westeros.

False.

Ser Gregor Clegane will stunner everyone in Narnia.

Originally posted by NemeBro
False.

Ser Gregor Clegane will stunner everyone in Narnia. Nah, he couldn't even best the Queen of Narnia.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We have not seen hundreds of thousands of soldiers on the HBO series.

I never said Lotr didn't win but Narnia is no pushover and definitely defeats Westeros.

People mention that they have those numbers in war meeting and stuff. Robb Stark had, what, 40,000 men? And he was outnumbered by the Lannisters and Stannis. Renly did have 100,000 men before he died and that was absorbed by Stannis.

Originally posted by Nephthys
People mention that they have those numbers in war meeting and stuff. Robb Stark had, what, 40,000 men? And he was outnumbered by the Lannisters and Stannis. Renly did have 100,000 men before he died and that was absorbed by Stannis. We do not see them so they cannot be used in such a manner. No one shows the power of the Narnians magic or the skill in the all out battle either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We do not see them so they cannot be used in such a manner.

lol

Originally posted by NemeBro
lol We see the Lotr side having over ten thousand badass henchmen. It makes the eyes water to even gaze upon such an awesome sight. Westeros cannot compete with Middle Earth.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We do not see them so they cannot be used in such a manner. No one shows the power of the Narnians magic or the skill in the all out battle either.

Lol. They directly state these numbers in the show.

Daenerys' 8,000 Unsullied alone eclipse the armies seen in all of the Narnia movies with change iirc.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol. They directly state these numbers in the show.

Daenerys' 8,000 Unsullied alone eclipse the armies seen in all of the Narnia movies with change iirc. I never said their numbers didn't exceed Narnia I said that Narnias forces would stomp them due to magic and aerial assaults.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see the Lotr side having over ten thousand badass henchmen. It makes the eyes water to even gaze upon such an awesome sight. Westeros cannot compete with Middle Earth. Ser Gregor Clegane would heel drop Gandalf so hard that Gondor would sink into the abyss never to return.

Also, Game of Thrones didn't have the budget to have 100,000 guys running around on camera.

Neither did Lord of the Rings. They used CGI.

hohoho. This argument is dumb though.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Ser Gregor Clegane would heel drop Gandalf so hard that Gondor would sink into the abyss never to return.

Also, Game of Thrones didn't have the budget to have 100,000 guys running around on camera. What film had 100,000 real live men.

Middle Earth stomps
Westeros is in the middle
Narnia is too disorganized. If they didn't depower the White Witch and Aslan in the movies things could have been different.

Where did I say that?

Can you even read?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Where did I say that?

Can you even read? You said 100,000 guys running around. You were corrected twice. Be smarter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
But the same applies to them. Random nobodies with no real armies or organization.


Narnia has armies and a few beings with massive power. The difference is you seem to believe certain characters from your beloved franchise can solo despite proof to the contrary. Oh, you seem to still be going on about a verse not in this thread.. don't let LoZ have such a tight grip on you. Not healthy.

Anyhow, numbers are only part of the equation for victory. A thousand men against a hundred? The only way the hundred can win is through a massive skill and strategy advantage, otherwise the numbers are daunting. The same thousand against ten? No amount of human skill or standard strategy will help them. Now, if those ten consisted of not humans but robots who can flip tanks and have the opponents swords bounce off and break on contact with their armour? Well what will their numbers and on-scene plans do when facing a handful of foes they literally cannot harm, stop and get one-shotted by?

Narnia? Well the verse doesn't meet that. It's armies consist of nothing but human and animal level characters, nothing supernatural about them. Asland and Witch are strong, but their power hasn't been shown to either affect a large area in a potent way nor has it iirc been to such a level where it would change the outcome, especially when faced with other top players in LotR.

Basically, what is Narnia to do with less numbers, human level players and less firepower?




Even though I know your reply to me was only in some angry nerd rage against another franchise.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You said 100,000 guys running around. You were corrected twice. Be smarter. I said Westeros does not. And it doesn't.

Do you even lift?

Originally posted by NemeBro
I said Westeros does not. And it doesn't.

Do you even lift? No franchise really has 100,000 peeps running around.


I'm lifting right now.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Oh, you seem to still be going on about a verse not in this thread.. don't let LoZ have such a tight grip on you. Not healthy.

Anyhow, numbers are only part of the equation for victory. A thousand men against a hundred? The only way the hundred can win is through a massive skill and strategy advantage, otherwise the numbers are daunting. The same thousand against ten? No amount of human skill or standard strategy will help them. Now, if those ten consisted of not humans but robots who can flip tanks and have the opponents swords bounce off and break on contact with their armour? Well what will their numbers and on-scene plans do when facing a handful of foes they literally cannot harm, stop and get one-shotted by?

Narnia? Well the verse doesn't meet that. It's armies consist of nothing but human and animal level characters, nothing supernatural about them. Asland and Witch are strong, but their power hasn't been shown to either affect a large area in a potent way nor has it iirc been to such a level where it would change the outcome, especially when faced with other top players in LotR.

Basically, what is Narnia to do with less numbers, human level players and less firepower?




Even though I know your reply to me was only in some angry nerd rage against another franchise. Narnia has air support and a lot of beasts as well. The Minotaurs, Centaurs, etc. would assault normal men in combat such as from Westeros which comprise the bulk of the their army.

We see her magic negate fire altogether. She can turn anyone into a statue is very powerful.

Middle-Earth stomps. Westeros can't win because the leaders are too busy backstabbing each other while their vassals rape everything with legs. And Narnia is of little consequence.

/thread.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No franchise really has 100,000 peeps running around.


I'm lifting right now. Sure they do. The generals tell us as much.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Sure they do. The generals tell us as much. You acted like they needed 100,000 real people to pull these scenes off. They don't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You acted like they needed 100,000 real people to pull these scenes off. They don't. Point out where I said that fgt.

On the other hand, you said that because we don't see 100,000 people, we can't use them. What an idiot.

Westeros wins.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Point out where I said that fgt.

On the other hand, you said that because we don't see 100,000 people, we can't use them. What an idiot.

Westeros wins. We can see the cgi simulate these kinds of numbers. I gave them credit for the unsullied. You're lucky.

Run away like you did from Scenario and I little man.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Run away like you did from Scenario and I little man. I am meeting him head on. He's begging me like a succubus. He's pmed me to teach him how to debate 10 percent better. He needs to chill.

Provide the PM.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Provide the PM. I am too honorable to do that to him.

I accept your concession.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's begging me like a succubus.
But I thought you were my waifu.

I.
WILL NOT.
STAND FOR THIS.

Scenario, I will fite u.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
But I thought you were my waifu.

I.
WILL NOT.
STAND FOR THIS.

Scenario, I will fite u. Scenario is being really weasely.

You have my permission to provide him the PM, quan.

Originally posted by The Scenario
You have my permission to provide him the PM, quan. I just deleted it.

Sissy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just deleted it. laughcry

Originally posted by NemeBro
Sissy. I won't let you vermin use this against him. LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
laughcry Scen is very sensitive. He may disappear again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just deleted it.

quan claims things he can't back up.

What else is new?




Let them use it against me. Expose all of our most private moments, quan.

Ghey

Originally posted by NemeBro
Ghey You guys are relentless when it comes to humiliating scenario. Lucky for him I deleted it for Christmas.

Originally posted by The Scenario
quan claims things he can't back up.

What else is new?




Let them use it against me. Expose all of our most private moments, quan. You begged me to delete them. Since it is Christmas I honored your request and even deleted the groveling pms.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You guys are relentless when it comes to humiliating scenario. Lucky for him I deleted it for Christmas.

I can't believe you deleted my confessions to you.

That was supposed to our special moment.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You guys are relentless when it comes to humiliating scenario. Lucky for him I deleted it for Christmas. I got Scenario something a little more interesting for Christmas.
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Originally posted by The Scenario
I can't believe you deleted my confessions to you.

That was supposed to our special moment. If the pms were four minutes later I probably would have posted them. You are so lucky.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I got Scenario something a little more interesting for Christmas.
http://image.dhgate.com/albu_305481410_00-1.0x0/bondage-gear-sex-toys-bdsm-neck-collar-rope.jpg He is probably into this sort of thing. Not judging.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He is probably into this sort of thing. Not judging. How surprisingly open minded of you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If the pms were four minutes later I probably would have posted them. You are so lucky.

Those PMs were special to me. How could you be so insensitive?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
How surprisingly open minded of you. He has one more minute until I start judging him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He has one more minute until I start judging him.

Make it scathing. Hurt me, if you think you can.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Make it scathing. Hurt me, if you think you can. I am not into male bondage. Best of luck.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
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Originally posted by NemeBro
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Narnia has air support and a lot of beasts as well. The Minotaurs, Centaurs, etc. would assault normal men in combat such as from Westeros which comprise the bulk of the their army.

We see her magic negate fire altogether. She can turn anyone into a statue is very powerful. A lot, but not as strong as the LotR ones. Sure they'd prove useful against the humans, but when faced against stronger beasts, they will fall. Useful magic, just not great in the grand scheme of things.


And just because I have not yet said so, I believe Westeros as of yet consists of the weakest army here.

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On a more serious note, Middle Earth ripes the other two apart.

Originally posted by BloodRain
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A lot, but not as strong as the LotR ones. Sure they'd prove useful against the humans, but when faced against stronger beasts, they will fall. Useful magic, just not great in the grand scheme of things.


And just because I have not yet said so, I believe Westeros as of yet consists of the weakest army here. So you agree Narnia beats Westeros. You agree with me. Everyone keeps riding my coattails.

Originally posted by BloodRain
And just because I have not yet said so, I believe Westeros as of yet consists of the weakest army here.

The weakest, but likely the largest. Altogether Westeros can field about 210,000 men (Stark - 40,000 Lannister - 60,000 Baratheon - 100,000 Daenerys - 8,000). I don't know about Narnia but at most they have less than 10,000 just from eyeballing the battle scenes. Middle Earth has quite a lot of orcs, but I don't think they have as much as GoT.

Magic and better troops are good, but against overwhelming numbers they just don't match up. Beasts are good fighters, but 4 peasants with spears will still easily dispatch 1 of them. I think its obvious that Narnia is basically a non-entity here.

Originally posted by Utrigita
On a more serious note, Middle Earth ripes the other two apart. Seems that way, but it also depends on what period we're discussing it from. If it's all beings in Middle Earth the later in the series we discuss the harder it becomes. At the end of LoTR Sauron is crippled, Smaug is gone, I'm not sure any Balrogs remains, the Wizards are reduced save perhaps Gandalf, the undead army is dispersed, and most armies have been completely decimated from war.

I'm not going to comment on who would win in any definitive way, though, because this is restricted to the movies and I can't recall much from the Narnia movies and have not seen Game of Thrones.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Is this a race to see which side beats Hyrule the fastest?
That's a shame, because all these franchises lost said race. By an enormous margin.

Also, Westeros has wildfire, which could seriously nuke the opposing armies if positioned correctly (by Tyrion).

fuNyWMAWptE

1.40.

Originally posted by Epicurus
That's a shame, because all these franchises lost said race. By an enormous margin. You honestly think Twilight Princess can best Middle Earth from the film depictions ?


Please say yes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You honestly think Twilight Princess can best Middle Earth from the film depictions ?


Please say yes.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Also, Westeros has wildfire, which could seriously nuke the opposing armies if positioned correctly (by Tyrion).

fuNyWMAWptE

1.40. Why can't the Queen of Narnia put it out ?

With what? Her big ol' ass?

Wildfire is magic anyway, not even water puts it out. Only large quantities of sand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We do not see them so they cannot be used in such a manner.
Not really. Unless you think that Robb Stark and the Tywin Lannister lie every time they talk about fielding troops numbering in several tens of thousands just to fight a localized civil war, then we oucan use it in such a manner. Not to mention the immense size of the Dothraki hordes under Khal Drogo's command alone.

Tell me, do you think Tywin Lannister is a liar?

Originally posted by Nephthys
With what? Her big ol' ass?

Wildfire is magic anyway, not even water puts it out. Only large quantities of sand. She is magical and has put out fire before. She covered the entire land in never ending winter for crying out loud. Her magic craps on the dwarfs secret weapon.

Originally posted by Epicurus
Not really. Unless you think that Robb Stark and the Tywin Lannister lie every time they talk about fielding troops numbering in several tens of thousands just to fight a localized civil war, then we oucan use it in such a manner. Not to mention the immense size of the Dothraki hordes under Khal Drogo's command alone.

Tell me, do you think Tywin Lannister is a liar? Since you cried they are allowed. It changes nothing and they still lose.

Do you disagree ?

Originally posted by BloodRain
And Westeros? IIRC the show so far has only shown two dozen Walkers and 3 teen dragons?
The actual Walkers have only been shown in handfuls. The zombified ice corpses do number in the dozens though. Also, saying those are teen dragons is an overstatement imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She is magical and has put out fire before. She covered the entire land in never ending winter for crying out loud. Her magic craps on the dwarfs secret weapon.

When did she put out fire?

Oh snap, I forgot about the Dothraki. Add 40,000 screamers on there. Westeros has 250,000.

Originally posted by Nephthys
When did she put out fire?

Oh snap, I forgot about the Dothraki. Add 40,000 screamers on there. Westeros has 250,000. In the first film.

No shit.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No shit. Then why ask a question you already know the answer to.

I meant what scene specifically. When in the first movie did she do it.

Also I forgot about the wildlings and the watch as well as Daenerys' new mercenary forces. Add another 50,000.

300,000. Westeros is stacked.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I meant what scene specifically. When in the first movie did she do it.

Also I forgot about the wildlings and the watch as well as Daenerys' new mercenary forces. Add another 50,000.

300,000. Westeros is stacked. Do you believe Westeros wins ?


Around 1:25 she puts out the Phoenix fire.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dRaRhAWI85o

I think its between Westeros and Middle Earth. Westeros has the numbers and the better leadership, but ME has crazy supernatural monsters and stuff.

That fire was pretty tiny. Nothing compared to the wildfire.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I think its between Westeros and Middle Earth. Westeros has the numbers and the better leadership, but ME has crazy supernatural monsters and stuff.

That fire was pretty tiny. Nothing compared to the wildfire. The fire was very long and her magic effortlessly put it out. I backed my claim.


She puts out the wild fire. Phoenix fire is magical as well.


Narnia would crush Westeros as well. Supernatural creatures and magic me thinks.

Wildfire is still a hell of a lot bigger and much harder to put out. Its burns even steel.

Those supernatural creatures and magicians wouldn't last a single volley from 40,000 Dothraki horse archers. Your link shows the Witches forces getting mowed down by arrow fire. It would be easy considering the sheer quantity of arrows.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Wildfire is still a hell of a lot bigger and much harder to put out. Its burns even steel.

Those supernatural creatures and magicians wouldn't last a single volley from 40,000 Dothraki horse archers. You're link shows the Witches forces getting mowed down by arrow fire. It would be easy considering the sheer quantity of arrows. How do you know ? That was Phoenix fire she put out. Wildfire is something in a weaker universe such as Westeros.


Dragon, armies, vastly powerful magic, etc.

There isn't just one movie here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How do you know ? That was Phoenix fire she put out. Wildfire is something in a weaker universe such as Westeros.


Dragon, armies, vastly powerful magic, etc.

There isn't just one movie here.

Feats for Phoenix fire?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Feats for Phoenix fire? Halted an entire supernatural army. Did you not watch the clip ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How do you know ? That was Phoenix fire she put out. Wildfire is something in a weaker universe such as Westeros.


Dragon, armies, vastly powerful magic, etc.

There isn't just one movie here.

I don't *know*, but we can only go by what is shown. Wildfire is shown to be extremely destructive and difficult to put out. Phoenix fire has shown nothing. It drew a line in the grass. Whoopii.

The combined forces of all the Narnia movies gets stomped.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Halted an entire supernatural army. Did you not watch the clip ?

And is that it? It burned basically nothing but grass and some flesh. That some monsters didn't want to get burned isn't a feat.

So you have nothing.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Seems that way, but it also depends on what period we're discussing it from. If it's all beings in Middle Earth the later in the series we discuss the harder it becomes. At the end of LoTR Sauron is crippled, Smaug is gone, I'm not sure any Balrogs remains, the Wizards are reduced save perhaps Gandalf, the undead army is dispersed, and most armies have been completely decimated from war.

I'm not going to comment on who would win in any definitive way, though, because this is restricted to the movies and I can't recall much from the Narnia movies and have not seen Game of Thrones.

I was under the impression that we used the most recent setting shown in the movies. For instance, lotr gets the Nazgul, Sauron, Gandalf, the Orcs (shown at Minas Tirith), Rohan (at Minas Tirith), Gondor, Elves (helms Deep), dwarves (I suspect we will see a army in the third Hobbit movie), but not Smaug (not part of a army) same goes for the Balrog, they get the ents though and the Uruk Hai and Saruman. Westeros doesn't get the dragons because Daenerys isn't a part of them, hence they don't get any of the Dothraki as well. I'm also highly skeptical about Narnia getting Aslan as he isn't a part of a army. But that is just my take.

We can ofcause just take the armies shown in the movies and combine them all. To that I just say watch the first part of the Lotr movie and weep for Westeros.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The weakest, but likely the largest. Altogether Westeros can field about 210,000 men (Stark - 40,000 Lannister - 60,000 Baratheon - 100,000 Daenerys - 8,000). Daenerys isn't in Westeros.

Nor are the Dothraki or the Wildlings, though at least the Wildlings are directly adjacent.

Come on man.

Actually, the Wildlings are on Westeros, since Westeros is the name of the continent, not the country. Thats the Seven Kingdoms.

A nice effort though.

I included Dany and the Dothraki because quan has talked about allowing them.

Point about the Wildlings, but the Dothraki and Daenerys and friends are not in Westeros. I am sure quan will see my reasoning.

No taksies backsies.

Also, the wildlings have giants and mammoths, so Westeros isn't completely devoid of monsterous creatures, Quan.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I included Dany and the Dothraki because quan has talked about allowing them.

If I recall correctly, it was you who brought them up in the first place, by mentioning the 8000 Unsullied from Dany.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Since you cried they are allowed. It changes nothing and they still lose.

Do you disagree ?
So you concede that the Westeros armies number in the hundreds of thousands. Good. You're beginning to catch up, boy.

Originally posted by Utrigita
If I recall correctly, it was you who brought them up in the first place, by mentioning the 8000 Unsullied from Dany.

Yeah, but Quan allowed it.

I meant included them in my tally of combined numbers.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, but Quan allowed it.

I meant included them in my tally of combined numbers.

To be used in the battle, or just be used as a indication of what the entire world of A song of fire and Ice could field?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Point out where I said that fgt.

On the other hand, you said that because we don't see 100,000 people, we can't use them. What an idiot.

Westeros wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We can see the cgi simulate these kinds of numbers. I gave them credit for the unsullied. You're lucky.

And if the Unsullied are allowed, I don't see with Drogo's khalasar shouldn't be.

Originally posted by Epicurus
So you concede that the Westeros armies number in the hundreds of thousands. Good. You're beginning to catch up, boy. No, I don't but since you cried I pitied you and allowed it.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I don't *know*, but we can only go by what is shown. Wildfire is shown to be extremely destructive and difficult to put out. Phoenix fire has shown nothing. It drew a line in the grass. Whoopii.

The combined forces of all the Narnia movies gets stomped. Stopped a supernatural army in its tracks. Thats a helluva feat.

Originally posted by The Scenario
And is that it? It burned basically nothing but grass and some flesh. That some monsters didn't want to get burned isn't a feat.

So you have nothing. It burned those it touches just like fire. Wtf. Halted a gigantic army and the Queen easily dispelled it.

Are you allowing the Dothraki and the Unsullied Quan?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Are you allowing the Dothraki and the Unsullied Quan? Yes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It burned those it touches just like fire. Wtf. Halted a gigantic army and the Queen easily dispelled it.

Just like normal fire, woo. So it has no feats to put it above normal fire, while Wildfire apparently has feats of melting steel?

Wildfire is clearly better in that case.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes.

Then it's not Westeros, it's Essos and Westeros. I take it your including the Telmar as well?

Originally posted by Utrigita
Then it's not Westeros, it's Essos and Westeros. I take it your including the Telmar as well? Entire fictional worlds of each one save modern technology and the like as in Narnia.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Just like normal fire, woo. So it has no feats to put it above normal fire, while Wildfire apparently has feats of melting steel?

Wildfire is clearly better in that case. it is magical though in nature since the Phoenix is magical. Magic put it out. Why is wildfire better iyo ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
it is magical though in nature since the Phoenix is magical. Magic put it out. Why is wildfire better iyo ?

Fire always wins

Originally posted by quanchi112
it is magical though in nature since the Phoenix is magical. Magic put it out. Why is wildfire better iyo ?

Why would magic make it better? Does that make it stronger? (If so, prove it.) Does that make it harder to put out? (If so, prove it.)


"Magical" by itself does not mean anything.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Entire fictional worlds of each one save modern technology and the like as in Narnia. All right, that does significantly boost Westeros' numbers.

Though they did not need it. Gregor Clegane solos.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Why would magic make it better? Does that make it stronger? (If so, prove it.) Does that make it harder to put out? (If so, prove it.)


"Magical" by itself does not mean anything. We see the fire clearly an obstacle to this army but Queen of Narnia easily dispel.

Granted but halting an entire supernatural army does give it credibility.

Syrio would stomp Gregor.

He would not.

He'd stomp him like Oberyn did. And not get stupid at the end.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We see the fire clearly an obstacle to this army but Queen of Narnia easily dispel.

Granted but halting an entire supernatural army does give it credibility.

But it doesn't have feats, and its portrayal is not that impressive. You can't say it's superior to Wildfire based only on that.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He'd stomp him like Oberyn did. And not get stupid at the end. Gregor let Oberyn win so he could become immortal.

Did he scream like a little b*tch after to become immortal too?

Originally posted by The Scenario
But it doesn't have feats, and its portrayal is not that impressive. You can't say it's superior to Wildfire based only on that. It halted a supernatural army. It wasn't used as often or in a large area like the wildfire but it was easily dispelled by Queen of Narnia. Show some damn respect.

He wasn't screaming, he was singing. Ser Gregor Clegane is a pioneer of Thrash Metal, being the frontman of the band Mad Dog, known for their hit single Raped by a Mountain.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you agree Narnia beats Westeros. You agree with me. Everyone keeps riding my coattails. Was the first to rank Westeros as the worst threat. Trendsetter :T



Then again.. the Wildfire scene with the numbers Neph gave, thats both numbers and firepower.

Hmm.