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In TP? Sauron, the only ones who know Ganondorf is still alive are the sages.

But at least someone didn't just walk into mordor and drop his shit in some lava, I guess.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Sauron. VICTORY!!!!!!!!

Sauron is a big scary dude.

Five dudes know that Ganondorf even exists in Twilight Princess, it's not like there really is anyone to fear him since no one knows. haermm

But hey, whatever gets your boypussy moist.

link-rape

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Sauron.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Five dudes know that Ganondorf even exists in Twilight Princess, it's not like there really is anyone to fear him since no one knows. haermm

But hey, whatever gets your boypussy moist.

link-rape It is too late now to take back your words. Sauron inspires fear not the dumbass known as Dorf.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It is too late now to take back your words. Sauron inspires fear not the dumbass known as Dorf. Cute. I have nothing to take back, in Twilight Princess Ganondorf's existence was a secret, people can't fear what they don't know exists, so Sauron is more feared in LOTR than Ganondorf is in TP.

What amuses me is that somehow this simple fact seems to get your rocks off. Why is that?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Cute. I have nothing to take back, in Twilight Princess Ganondorf's existence was a secret, people can't fear what they don't know exists, so Sauron is more feared in LOTR than Ganondorf is in TP.

What amuses me is that somehow this simple fact seems to get your rocks off. Why is that? You betrayed your Dorf. Simply beautiful. My victory over you is complete. I agree Sauron is much scarier than a guy too blind to any danger who is bound and gagged.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You betrayed your Dorf. Simply beautiful. My victory over you is complete. I agree Sauron is much scarier than a guy too blind to any danger who is bound and gagged. I'm not sure I follow, I don't blindly claim Ganondorf is more feared, due to his existence literally not being known, and I'm betraying a character who doesn't exist?

You're kind of a weird and irrational guy.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'm not sure I follow, I don't blindly claim Ganondorf is more feared, due to his existence literally not being known, and I'm betraying a character who doesn't exist?

You're kind of a weird and irrational guy. You have betrayed Hyrule. Glorious day. Back to the topic I agree Sauron is way scarier and feared more than Dorf.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

But at least someone didn't just walk into mordor and drop his shit in some lava, I guess.

They didn't simply do it though.

Look at all the butthurt!



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Originally posted by quanchi112
You have betrayed Hyrule. Glorious day. Back to the topic I agree Sauron is way scarier and feared more than Dorf. So, let me get this right, anytime I claim that Ganondorf is not the scariest thing in all of fiction, you're going to claim I have 'betrayed' a fictional universe.

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I don't find the revelation that someone who is not known to exist can't be more feared than Sauron nearly as noteworthy as you, I guess.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
They didn't simply do it though. He is upset he betrayed Ganondorf. He came rushing right in to betray him. Hyrule Judas.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
So, let me get this right, anytime I claim that Ganondorf is not the scariest thing in all of fiction, you're going to claim I have 'betrayed' a fictional universe.

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I don't find the revelation that someone who is not known to exist can't be more feared than Sauron nearly as noteworthy as you, I guess. You got the right answer but at the same time betrayed your fanboyism. I will never let you forget this day.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You got the right answer but at the same time betrayed your fanboyism. I will never let you forget this day. I haven't betrayed anything. It's nice that you've got a little scrapbook dedicated to every post I make, though. Sweet, in a needy kind of way.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I haven't betrayed anything. It's nice that you've got a little scrapbook dedicated to every post I make, though. Sweet, in a needy kind of way. Nah, just making a note of your betrayal of Dorf. Wearing my victory sig. Sauron a much scarier guy than the ginger.

Do you feel you have an allegiance to any fictional character you like which forbids you from not claiming they're the best at everything ever? That would explain quite a bit.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Do you feel you have an allegiance to any fictional character you like which forbids you from not claiming they're the best at everything ever? That would explain quite a bit. I still can't believe you rushed right into betray him.

I can't believe you'd think five people can experience more collective fear than the men and Elves of Middle Earth.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I can't believe you'd think five people can experience more collective fear than the men and Elves of Middle Earth. I think Sauron scares people more. Link wasn't scared at all of him. Just straight beat his ass.

The Raigen Effect is strong with this thread

Someone voted for Ganon. Not sure if trolling or stupid.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Someone voted for Ganon. Not sure if trolling or stupid.



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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
They didn't simply do it though.

Indeed. One does not simply walk into Mordor.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Indeed. One does not simply walk into Mordor.

I was hoping someone would respond to that.

I'll be your wingman anytime, Wei.

They did though. They simply walked into Mordor.

I definitely wouldn't say they did it within any definition of the word "simple".

I am.

Submit yourselves to the will of the Dread Lord NemeBro, Lord of Terror and Justifier of Brown Pants.

Originally posted by quanchi112
VICTORY!!!!!!!! thirsty ass nigga

Zelda pretty clearly states that everyone is living in fear of a "nameless evil."

I submit for consideration that people were afraid of Ganondorf despite no one even knowing his name. The unknown is always scarier.

Sauron. Not really close either.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Zelda pretty clearly states that everyone is living in fear of a "nameless evil."

I submit for consideration that people were afraid of Ganondorf despite no one even knowing his name. The unknown is always scarier. So who do you believe is feared more ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So who do you believe is feared more ?

For discussion purposes I'll say Ganondorf.

Are you going somewhere with this?

Originally posted by The Scenario
For discussion purposes I'll say Ganondorf.

Are you going somewhere with this? I knew you wouldn't let me down. Scenario really dropped the ball for Hyrule.


Do you think Ganondorf really scared Link and Midna ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I knew you wouldn't let me down. Scenario really dropped the ball for Hyrule.


Do you think Ganondorf really scared Link and Midna ?

I think Link was awarded a divine artifact for his courage, so he's rather difficult to scare.

Midna nearly gave in to despair before she found the Fused Shadows and Sacred Beast, so yes she was scared.

The implication that Link would be scared of Sauron is kind of lulz. Link would simply walk into Mordor, smash the black gates and kill Sauron himself.

Originally posted by The Scenario
I think Link was awarded a divine artifact for his courage, so he's rather difficult to scare.

Midna nearly gave in to despair before she found the Fused Shadows and Sacred Beast, so yes she was scared. Gandalf was blessed with divinity as well in some manners but he was scared of Sauron.

She despaired her situation not Ganondorf.

Once she had that she wasn't scared especially when she ran into him.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The implication that Link would be scared of Sauron is kind of lulz. Link would simply walk into Mordor, smash the black gates and kill Sauron himself.


Link would get annihilated. This is an impressive realm unlike Hyrule.


Gandalf would beat Link's ass.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Gandalf was blessed with divinity as well in some manners but he was scared of Sauron.

Light Spirits and Sages were scared of Ganondorf.



And then he stomped her into the ground.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Light Spirits and Sages were scared of Ganondorf.



And then he stomped her into the ground. Link was not. Midna was not. Light spirits and the sages were obviously pansies.


Yes, he beat her. Gandalf feared Sauron and he easily crushed him too.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Link was not. Midna was not. Light spirits and the sages were obviously pansies.

Hobbits weren't scared of Sauron.



And your point is?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Hobbits weren't scared of Sauron.



And your point is? Which ones weren't afraid of him ?

Sauron was better than Dorf by leaps and bounds.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Which ones weren't afraid of him ?

Sam.



Prove it.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Sam.



Prove it. Lol. Sam was afraid of him but he did have courage.

The entire world was aware of him. Dorf was just the guy behind the curtain who didn't scare Midna or Link. I don't even know if Zelda feared the red head.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lol. Sam was afraid of him but he did have courage.

Are you implying that Samwise Gamgee can experience fear?



Zelda surrendered her kingdom rather than fight. You think she wasn't afraid?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Are you implying that Samwise Gamgee can experience fear?



Zelda surrendered her kingdom rather than fight. You think she wasn't afraid? He experienced fear throughout his journey but loyalty to his friend allowed him to persist.

She was afraid for her people and of Zant's threats not Ganondorf.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He experienced fear throughout his journey but loyalty to his friend allowed him to persist.

Same with Midna, only it was loyalty to her people. You're not making a very convincing case here.



Which Ganondorf is responsible for, "fear of a nameless evil," and all.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Same with Midna, only it was loyalty to her people. You're not making a very convincing case here.



Which Ganondorf is responsible for, "fear of a nameless evil," and all. Midna banished people away and faced him one on one. Sam never did so.

Sauron gave the evil a name unlike Dorf. The spell did so and a few of the people that met him weren't scared.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Midna banished people away and faced him one on one. Sam never did so.

Sam simply walked into Mordor.



Ganondorf can inspire fear without being known, Sauron needs a name.

I think it's clear Ganondorf wins that exchange.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Sam simply walked into Mordor.



Ganondorf can inspire fear without being known, Sauron needs a name.

I think it's clear Ganondorf wins that exchange. Sauron was not there. They were specifically trying to sneak in. Midna challenged Dorf as did link one on one. Entirely different.


Due to a spell. Without the spell they weren't scared. That's worse since it was dependent on the spell.

Sauron is on another level.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sauron was not there. They were specifically trying to sneak in. Midna challenged Dorf as did link one on one. Entirely different.

Midna had ancestral magic backing her up.



People remained scared even after Twilight was lifted, were you not paying attention?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Midna had ancestral magic backing her up.



People remained scared even after Twilight was lifted, were you not paying attention? Ganondorf had the Triforce of power backing him. I love how it is ok for Dorf to use an artifact but not for anyone else. Hypocrite.

The entire people weren't scared of a nameless evil. Dorf didn't scare all the people who knew his name. He was scarier when he was nameless and the spell was enacted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ganondorf had the Triforce of power backing him. I love how it is ok for Dorf to use an artifact but not for anyone else. Hypocrite.

And the One Ring doesn't count? I don't see how that's relevant to Ganondorf being more terrifying than Sauron.



Zelda clearly states the entire people were scared.

Before the Hobbits knew about Sauron, do you think they were scared of him?

Originally posted by The Scenario
And the One Ring doesn't count? I don't see how that's relevant to Ganondorf being more terrifying than Sauron.



Zelda clearly states the entire people were scared.

Before the Hobbits knew about Sauron, do you think they were scared of him? You tried saying because Midna brought an artifact that it changed things. It did not. You use self serving logic all the time. I do not.


Due to the spell.

Everyone who knew about Sauron feared him unlike Dorf.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You tried saying because Midna brought an artifact that it changed things. It did not. You use self serving logic all the time. I do not.

It gave her the courage to fight. If she did not have it she would not have fought, that changes the equation completely.



So?



Even people who didn't know about Ganondorf feared him. That puts him above Sauron.

Originally posted by The Scenario
It gave her the courage to fight. If she did not have it she would not have fought, that changes the equation completely.



So?



Even people who didn't know about Ganondorf feared him. That puts him above Sauron. No, it didn't. It gave her power to fight. Suddenly this becomes like the Triforce of courage too. You're so biased I cant take anything you say seriously anymore.

That isn't due to him it is due to a spell.

False, as those who met Dorf two weren't scared at all. People of Middle Earth also outnumbered so greater numbers and higher percentage.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it didn't. It gave her power to fight. Suddenly this becomes like the Triforce of courage too. You're so biased I cant take anything you say seriously anymore.

And because she had the power to fight, she fought. You can be scared and still fight.



Which he cast, meaning it's due to him.



Greater number, but not total percentage, actually. There is one person who will stand up to Ganondorf unafraid, but Sauron has armies willing to fight him.

Originally posted by The Scenario
And because she had the power to fight, she fought. You can be scared and still fight.



Which he cast, meaning it's due to him.



Greater number, but not total percentage, actually. There is one person who will stand up to Ganondorf unafraid, but Sauron has armies willing to fight him. There is no evidence she feared him at all. She wasn't stupid and knew to take him on she needed power. She couldn't even beat Zant prior to her powerup.

Zant cast it.

Two people stood up to him in a much smaller number. Very weak percenatage compared to Sauron.

Originally posted by quanchi112
There is no evidence she feared him at all. She wasn't stupid and knew to take him on she needed power. She couldn't even beat Zant prior to her powerup.

That's evidence she was afraid.



They both did.



2 people out of 100 is 2%

100 people out of 1000 is 10%

Ganondorf's coming out ahead.

Originally posted by The Scenario
That's evidence she was afraid.



They both did.



2 people out of 100 is 2%

100 people out of 1000 is 10%

Ganondorf's coming out ahead. No, it isn't. It is like bringing a gun to a fight in which your opponent is armed. Intelligence.

Zant is the one who cast it against the people and the one who took over Hyrule.

False since there were far more people in Lotr. Three people who saw Dorf weren't even scared of him. Link took him right down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't. It is like bringing a gun to a fight in which your opponent is armed. Intelligence.

Healthy fear.



As directed to by Ganondorf. You don't think the Nazghul and orc armies are part of the reason Sauron is feared?



It's not false. LotR has more people, but it also has far more people willing to stand up to Sauron.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Healthy fear.



As directed to by Ganondorf. You don't think the Nazghul and orc armies are part of the reason Sauron is feared?



It's not false. LotR has more people, but it also has far more people willing to stand up to Sauron. She didn't act afraid of him. What makes you say she was scared ?

That doesn't matter Zant did so.

They all know to fear Sauron as without him there is no army.

They all feared Sauron unlike those who stood up to Dorf. He was also an unknown for the most part who was soundly defeated by one little guy in fair combat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She didn't act afraid of him. What makes you say she was scared ?

Her speech in the desert, and she showed fear against Zant.



Same with Ganondorf.



Most of that fight was 3 on 1 with Light Spirits helping. So actually closer to 7 on 1. And he was feared despite being unknown.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Her speech in the desert, and she showed fear against Zant.



Same with Ganondorf.



Most of that fight was 3 on 1 with Light Spirits helping. So actually closer to 7 on 1. And he was feared despite being unknown. Zant isn't Dorf. Wtf man.

Link, Midna, nor Zelda feared him. Just the sages did and they were sissies.

Dorf had a horse and used phantoms to battle. The spirits were just weapons. In the end it was a one on one fight in which Link resoundingly won.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Zant isn't Dorf. Wtf man.


I feel like you're not reading my posts. Fearing Zant is the same as fearing Ganondorf.



Midna and Zelda feared him, as id everyone else who was afraid of the "nameless evil."



Only after a knock down, drag out fight with 2 other people helping Link and exploiting Ganondorf's weaknesses. You really think that was a fair fight?

Considering the high council will barely speak of his name..

Sauron is the most feared.

Originally posted by The Scenario
I feel like you're not reading my posts. Fearing Zant is the same as fearing Ganondorf.



Midna and Zelda feared him, as id everyone else who was afraid of the "nameless evil."



Only after a knock down, drag out fight with 2 other people helping Link and exploiting Ganondorf's weaknesses. You really think that was a fair fight? No, it isn't since they are different beings and the fact Zant had a personal history with Midna.

No, they didn't as they took him on and showed no fear in his presence.


Yes, considering Dorf had an army aiding him along with Zant. Odds were against link.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't since they are different beings and the fact Zant had a personal history with Midna.

As a direct result of Ganondorf.



Both did show fear.



Ganondorf had neither an army nor Zant with him during that fight. Link did have Zelda, Midna, and the Light Spirits actively helping him.

I would say Sauron, but that is mostly because it's my impression that only a few actually knows that Ganondorf exist. Else it would be hard to call imo.

Originally posted by The Scenario
As a direct result of Ganondorf.



Both did show fear.



Ganondorf had neither an army nor Zant with him during that fight. Link did have Zelda, Midna, and the Light Spirits actively helping him. That doesn't matter as it is Zant not Dorf.

No, they didn't.

Dorf has the top of power. He also used Zelda's lifeless body against him. What a coward. In the end Link overpowered and crushed him in combat.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Cute. I have nothing to take back, in Twilight Princess Ganondorf's existence was a secret, people can't fear what they don't know exists, so Sauron is more feared in LOTR than Ganondorf is in TP.

What amuses me is that somehow this simple fact seems to get your rocks off. Why is that?

Well, to be fair, Sauron was never legitimately in LOTR, right? Isildur kinda cheap-shotted him. :/

Whereas, Ganon, was defeated countless times by Link.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Well, to be fair, Sauron was never legitimately in LOTR, right? Isildur kinda cheap-shotted him. :/

Whereas, Ganon, was defeated countless times by Link. Lolwat? Isildur was getting ****ed up when he cut the finger off of Sauron. Link, who is so far beyond Isildur it's kind of funny, only manages wins over Ganondorf because he has Fi.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Lolwat? Isildur was getting ****ed up when he cut the finger off of Sauron. Link, who is so far beyond Isildur it's kind of funny, only manages wins over Ganondorf because he has Fi. False. Link beat him in fair combat whereas Sauron was toying with Isildur.

Originally posted by quanchi112
False. Link beat him in fair combat whereas Sauron was toying with Isildur. You're bad at this.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You're bad at this. You try to ignore the context or his point. Link beat his ass. Sauron was toying with Isildur.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You try to ignore the context or his point. Link beat his ass. Sauron was toying with Isildur. The opposite is true, you're trying to ignore context. Sauron was felled by a man, Ganondorf required the power of Fi to be stopped.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
The opposite is true, you're trying to ignore context. Sauron was felled by a man, Ganondorf required the power of Fi to be stopped. Did Fi even exist at that point ? The biased just make crap up. A man he toyed with later died due to the ring which is Sauron.

A boy crushed Ganondorf in fair combat.

Man>boy.