Hyperion vs. Majestic and Icon

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Rage.Of.Olympus
Round One: Hyperion vs. Majestic.

Round Two: Hyperion vs. Icon.

This isn't a gauntlet. I was just too lazy to make two separate threads.

Side question: Rank these three in strength.

Just to avoid any confusion, I'm referring to this Hyperion:
http://retconpunchdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/can-these-two-just-get-their-own-ax-story-already.jpg?w=593

carver9
Hyperion is fighting both at the same time?

Rage.Of.Olympus
Nah. Just two separate fights.

Galan007
Beats Icon for sure.

Not sure how a fight between Hype and Maj would go, though. It would certainly appear that Hype has a definitive brute strength edge-- stopping an earth-sized mass traveling half a million mph from a standstill is phucking ridiculous. It would also seem that he has a durability edge as well, given that he endured multi-universal destruction or w/e. That being said, I am not convinced that he is beyond Majestic's ability to injure physically. I also haven't seen any noteworthy speed feats from Hype-- Majestic at least has a few.

So yeah, not sure. If I had to pick I'd probably give Hype the nod I guess.

pym-ftw
thumb up

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by Galan007
Beats Icon for sure.

Not sure how a fight between Hype and Maj would go, though. It would certainly appear that Hype has a definitive brute strength edge-- stopping an earth-sized mass traveling half a million mph from a standstill is phucking ridiculous. It would also seem that he has a durability edge as well, given that he endured multi-universal destruction or w/e. That being said, I am not convinced that he is beyond Majestic's ability to injure physically. I also haven't seen any noteworthy speed feats from Hype-- Majestic at least has a few.

So yeah, not sure. If I had to pick I'd probably give Hype the nod I guess.

Based on how it lines up with Earth:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319521/Avengers_v524.NOW-030.jpg.html

The rogue planet actually looks noticeably larger.

I wonder how long before we get a massive Hyperion speed feat. I predict a massive super speed showing in Avengers #44 for Hyperion. shifty

Also, I just noticed that platform Hulk knocked into orbit on the top right of the rogue planet. It's probably the size of a small country. A nice feat for Hulk since he knocked from orbit onto the rogue planet despite it's speed.

carver9
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Based on how it lines up with Earth:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319521/Avengers_v524.NOW-030.jpg.html

The rogue planet actually looks noticeably larger.

I wonder how long before we get a massive Hyperion speed feat. I predict a massive super speed showing in Avengers #44 for Hyperion. shifty

Also, I just noticed that platform Hulk knocked into orbit on the top right of the rogue planet. It's probably the size of a small country. A nice feat for Hulk since he knocked from orbit onto the rogue planet despite it's speed.

I posted that ft in the hulk respect thread.

As for the fight...Hyperion beats both imo. His fts are better.

Golgo13
Beats Icon.

Loses to Majestic.

a88378438
The rogue planet look like very small,when machine on the mars,ms marvel,iron man they are on the bottom of the machine,and writer show the overall dimensions of the machine,Roughly estimate its size not bigger than a city

a88378438
There

a88378438
You can see machine is as it covers a massive part of this "planet".
And here,when machine on the mars:

a88378438
And ms marvel/iron man cpation on the bottom of machine

a88378438
scan:

a88378438
Roughly estimate its size"

a88378438
Originally posted by a88378438
Roughly estimate its size"

Rage.Of.Olympus
What? We never got a good look at the scale of the machine on Mars. Nor did the Avengers actually stand by it at any angle for us to judge the size of it. We see them beside it in a panel or two but never get the view of more then a portion of it so we can have a scale.

Besides, this is unnecessary. We saw the rogue planet besides Earth and it looked to be noticeably larger:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319521/Avengers_v524.NOW-030.jpg.html

And the machine is about the size of a country.

a88378438
Machine

a88378438
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What? We never got a good look at the scale of the machine on Mars. Nor did the Avengers actually stand by it at any angle for us to judge the size of it. We see them beside it in a panel or two but never get the view of more then a portion of it so we can have a scale.

Besides, this is unnecessary. We saw the rogue planet besides Earth and it looked to be noticeably larger:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319521/Avengers_v524.NOW-030.jpg.html

And the machine is about the size of a country.
Well,that not true,you scan only show rogue planet and earth in the same space,that isnt prove rogue planet=earth
Also,check scan,when machine on the mars,ms marvel and iron man they are on the bottom,and note that the bottom,you can getting a rough idea how big rogue planet/machine

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by a88378438
Well,that not true,you scan only show rogue planet and earth in the same space,that isnt prove rogue planet=earth
Also,check scan,when machine on the mars,ms marvel and iron man they are on the bottom,and note that the bottom,you can getting a rough idea how big rogue planet/machine

What? We can see the borders of the rogue planet and they clearly extend a noticeably distance beyond Earth. The rogue planet isn't just = Earth, it's a decent amount larger.

I get what you're saying but that could easily be a more detailed look at a section of the bottom. It's definitely nothing that would give it precedence over the page that I posted as that gives us a comparison to Earth for scale.

a88378438
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What? We can see the borders of the rogue planet and they clearly extend a noticeably distance beyond Earth. The rogue planet isn't just = Earth, it's a decent amount larger.

I get what you're saying but that could easily be a more detailed look at a section of the bottom. It's definitely nothing that would give it precedence over the page that I posted as that gives us a comparison to Earth for scale.
It's hard to think when rogue planet close to earth,in the scan,we only see machine was very big on the rogue planet itself,so,if we are know how big of the machine,then we can know how big of the rogue planet(approximate range)

well,that can give you how big of the machine idea,Although they are really the same chassis, if you pay attention to their bottom,when iron man and ms marvel and caption america on the bottom,you can have a idea for how big of the machine
though

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by a88378438
It's hard to think when rogue planet close to earth,in the scan,we only see machine was very big on the rogue planet itself,so,if we are know how big of the machine,then we can know how big of the rogue planet(approximate range)

well,that can give you how big of the machine idea,Although they are really the same chassis, if you pay attention to their bottom,when iron man and ms marvel and caption america on the bottom,you can have a idea for how big of the machine
though

The red half circle on the right of the Earth? That's the surface of the rogue planet when lined up with Eart. It's larger then Earth based on this. Why are you ignoring a direct scale comparison for a POSSIBLE indirect theory? Especially in comics where size from certain angles can be misrepresented?

Like I said, it could EASILY be interpreted as a more detailed view. Either way it's unclear and gives us no clear indication of scale. Your theory relies on piecing together different panels from different angles to come up with a certain idea. Which is completely unnecessary because as I said, the machine is on the top right of the rogue planet and is the size of a country or a large island by earth standards:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319521/Avengers_v524.NOW-030.jpg.html

Nibedicus
http://i.imgur.com/25R1wgo.png

Scale comparison to mars.

I have the issue. I don't see a single time where characters were put beside the machine to determine scale.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh shit. So either Mars is conveniently REALLY tiny or a certain poster does not understand what perspective is.

Also, look at how tall the station is. Using the Avengers at the bottom as some sort of reference for scale is retarded. Especially sine they never stood beside it from a far enough view to determine size.

a88378438
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The red half circle on the right of the Earth? That's the surface of the rogue planet when lined up with Eart. It's larger then Earth based on this. Why are you ignoring a direct scale comparison for a POSSIBLE indirect theory? Especially in comics where size from certain angles can be misrepresented?

Like I said, it could EASILY be interpreted as a more detailed view. Either way it's unclear and gives us no clear indication of scale. Your theory relies on piecing together different panels from different angles to come up with a certain idea. Which is completely unnecessary because as I said, the machine is on the top right of the rogue planet and is the size of a country or a large island by earth standards:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319521/Avengers_v524.NOW-030.jpg.html
The scan it's prove rogue planet and earth on the same space,that not comparing the direct size two planet,also,the machine look like very big for rogue planet.if even rogue planet close to earth of size,the machine should be very big
but:
this is earth and moon of size
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3541198-5724299914-35411.gif
this is earth and mars of size
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3541199-1142630994-35411.gif
I dont think machine as big as the moon(if rogue planet as big as earth)when machine on the mars?well..that not Impossible,unless machine as big as 2/3 of the mars
Well,I dont know how can unclear,it's very clear,they are was same bottom,one,iron man they are on the bottom,two,whole machine size scan,
machine bottom:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3541206-6717353746-35411.jpg
iron man on the bottom of the machine:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3541201-2425552929-35411.jpg
And amplify

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3541205-9710616396-35411.jpg
That's very clear,they are was same machine,same bottom
anyway

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
http://i.imgur.com/25R1wgo.png

Scale comparison to mars.

I have the issue. I don't see a single time where characters were put beside the machine to determine scale.
Note first page,the machine isnt on the mars,it's was In the above Mars
This is no way to know how big it is

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by a88378438
The scan it's prove rogue planet and earth on the same space,that not comparing the direct size two planet,also,the machine look like very big for rogue planet.if even rogue planet close to earth of size,the machine should be very big
but:
this is earth and moon of size
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3541198-5724299914-35411.gif
this is earth and mars of size
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3541199-1142630994-35411.gif
I dont think machine as big as the moon(if rogue planet as big as earth)when machine on the mars?well..that not Impossible,unless machine as big as 2/3 of the mars
Well,I dont know how can unclear,it's very clear,they are was same bottom,one,iron man they are on the bottom,two,whole machine size scan,
machine bottom:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3541206-6717353746-35411.jpg
iron man on the bottom of the machine:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3541201-2425552929-35411.jpg
And amplify

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3541205-9710616396-35411.jpg
That's very clear,they are was same machine,same bottom
anyway

Yes it does because we get too see the surface of the rogue planet when lined up with Earth. They are occupying the same space but this is how they match up when lined up:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/White_circle_in_blue_background.svg/450px-White_circle_in_blue_background.svg.png

Not to exact same scale but you get the point.

The machine is NOT as big as the moon. It's not anywhere near that big. It's the size of a small country. You seem to be getting confused by this scan:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114397/3534449-5870089501-35339.jpg

But it doesn't have to be confusing. It's called perspective.

Anyways, I've made my point and I'm done with it. Nothing you say can possibly changes the fact that we got a direct comparison between the Earth and the Rogue planet and it is in fact larger then Earth. Unless the left half of the planet is somehow inexplicably tiny but planets are round to my knowledge.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by a88378438
Note first page,the machine isnt on the mars,it's was In the above Mars
This is no way to know how big it is

laughing out loud

The machine doesn't seem to be on the rogue planet here either:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114397/3534449-5870089501-35339.jpg

It's mostly buried in the surface in this scan but that's after Thor bashes it and anchors the two planets:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319521/Avengers_v524.NOW-030.jpg.html

Hmm, I thought you were just confused. Now I realize that there's an actual agenda behind this and you just don't like the feat.

Well let me give you some advice. I suggest you swallow the Hyperion feat because it's not going away. You do know that sooner or later, we'll get another view of the planet in the Avengers? I don't actually think you believe what you're saying and realize it's massive. So it's just a matter of time. evil face

Nibedicus
That page was BEFORE the machine was orbital. Three pages later, we see the machine clearly on the ground. You clearly haven't read the comic, stop th1orizing.

http://i.imgur.com/LAl3kkB.png

a88378438
Hold down guys,you just wrong here,I dont said machine not on the rogue planet
You can see energy signature from Manifold porting the team away,and the machine,then hulk push it
Anyway,the rogue planet isnt close to earth of size,
here was earth and moon
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114397/3541198-5724299914-35411.gif
here was machine on the rogue planet
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114397/3541197-3500683867-35411.jpg

Nibedicus
Also, another scaling comparison between the machine and the rogue planet, notice how much smaller it looks vs the rogue planet on this scan:

http://i.imgur.com/fb0xM78.png

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
Hold down guys,you just wrong here,I dont said machine not on the rogue planet

You said:

Originally posted by a88378438
Note first page,the machine isnt on the mars,it's was In the above Mars
This is no way to know how big it is

Which I then disproved with my scan as the machine was CLEARLY on the surface of Mars. Which makes you wrong and proves that you didn't read the comic.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by a88378438
Hold down guys,you just wrong here,I dont said machine not on the rogue planet
You can see energy signature from Manifold porting the team away,and the machine,then hulk push it
Anyway,the rogue planet isnt close to earth of size,
here was earth and moon
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114397/3541198-5724299914-35411.gif
here was machine on the rogue planet
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114397/3541197-3500683867-35411.jpg

You still don't understand what perspective is. As Nibecius scans show:
http://i.imgur.com/fb0xM78.png

The station is much smaller then the rogue planet. This scan also shows that the station is tiny compared to the rogue planet:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319521/Avengers_v524.NOW-030.jpg.html

It also indicates that the rogue planet is the size of the Earth.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by a88378438
Note first page,the machine isnt on the mars,it's was In the above Mars
This is no way to know how big it is Originally posted by Nibedicus
That page was BEFORE the machine was orbital. Three pages later, we see the machine clearly on the ground. You clearly haven't read the comic, stop th1orizing.

http://i.imgur.com/LAl3kkB.png

Also good catch, I missed that.

As Nibed's scan shows, the station was in fact on the surface.

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
You said:



Which I then disproved with my scan as the machine was CLEARLY on the surface of Mars. Which makes you wrong and proves that you didn't read the comic.
Not really,I said firt panel(not page,I'm wrong)the machine on the orbit,not on the mars,then next page,machine on the mars itself,well

a88378438
Originally posted by a88378438
You can see machine is as it covers a massive part of this "planet".
And here,when machine on the mars:
I'm post this scan,though

a88378438
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You still don't understand what perspective is. As Nibecius scans show:
http://i.imgur.com/fb0xM78.png

The station is much smaller then the rogue planet. This scan also shows that the station is tiny compared to the rogue planet:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/17319521/Avengers_v524.NOW-030.jpg.html

It also indicates that the rogue planet is the size of the Earth.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114397/3534449-5870089501-35339.jpg
I agree that,the machine is smaller than rogue planet,but not too much
And dont forgot,when iron man on the bottom of the machine,it's can give you how big of the machine's idea,though

a88378438
Well,the rogue planet not close to earth of size,unless the machine as big as moon
the scan prove how big of the machine
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114397/3534449-5870089501-35339.jpg

Nibedicus
Are you blind? Here's a DIRECT scaling of the machine, Earth AND the rogue planet cropped for your convenience:

http://i.imgur.com/ewv9l4K.png

This was taken, btw, from the large scan of the rogue planet being superimposed with the Earth.

Now pls, just admit your error and move on. We forgive you.

Rage.Of.Olympus
Originally posted by a88378438
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114397/3534449-5870089501-35339.jpg
I agree that,the machine is smaller than rogue planet,but not too much
And dont forgot,when iron man on the bottom of the machine,it's can give you how big of the machine's idea,though

http://s28.postimg.org/t72gpk6gr/Avengers_v524_NOW_030.jpg

The machine is a lot smaller.

I'm sorry, but either you're blind, trolling or just plain dumb. No matter how much you deny it, on panel evidence won't change.

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Are you blind? Here's a DIRECT scaling of the machine, Earth AND the rogue planet cropped for your convenience:

http://i.imgur.com/ewv9l4K.png

This was taken, btw, from the large scan of the rogue planet being superimposed with the Earth.

Now pls, just admit your error and move on. We forgive you.
Well,this is rogue planet and earth in the same space scan,it's not really from normal space to comparison of their size
anyway,I'm just give your a point,you isnt need hate me,This tone is not necessary

a88378438
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://s28.postimg.org/t72gpk6gr/Avengers_v524_NOW_030.jpg

The machine is a lot smaller.

I'm sorry, but either you're blind, trolling or just plain dumb. No matter how much you deny it, on panel evidence won't change.
I'm not blind,I give you scan when machine on the rogue planet how big,you Ignore it,and i give you when machine on the mars,iron man on the bottom of the machine,you ignore it too,when that can prove how big of the machine,or at least get rough idea for how big of the machine

Rage.Of.Olympus
And I've posted two scans showing that it's a lot smaller then you're implying.

Anyways, I'm done with this discussion as it's going nowhere. You already made up your mind.

a88378438
It's was much smaller than rogue planet,but that still too big for a planet,if rogue planet as big as earth

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
Well,this is rogue planet and earth in the same space scan,it's not really from normal space to comparison of their size
anyway,I'm just give your a point,you isnt need hate me,This tone is not necessary

Originally posted by a88378438
It's was much smaller than rogue planet,but that still too big for a planet,if rogue planet as big as earth

Yes it is. Didn't you look at the cropped scan I provided? It showed the machine in DIRECT comparison to the rogue planet (which it shares the same space with) without the issues caused by perspective. It's a tiny lump on its top. This is consistent to the machine's scale in comparison to Mars and consistent with how it would measure up to Earth given those comparisons.

There was NEVER a time where the machine was directly scaled with the characters and your theory of some random machine parts that could look like a crapton of other parts of a machine of that size is extremely weak that it, of course, should just be ignored, especially since a direct full page comparison exists.

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Yes it is. Didn't you look at the cropped scan I provided? It showed the machine in DIRECT comparison to the rogue planet (which it shares the same space with) without the issues caused by perspective. It's a tiny lump on its top. This is consistent to the machine's scale in comparison to Mars and consistent with how it would measure up to Earth given those comparisons.

There was NEVER a time where the machine was directly scaled with the characters and your theory of some random machine parts that could look like a crapton of other parts of a machine of that size is extremely weak that it, of course, should just be ignored, especially since a direct full page comparison exists.
But that normal space to comparison of their size,it's happen when rogue planet and earth into same space,if we know how big of them we need comparion of their size in the normal space not when each other into same space,that not a good show

Nibedicus
SMH. Again. Rogue planet and the machine shares the same space (as the machine is PHYSICALLY on the rogue planet when it was activated). Pls look at how big the machine is in direct non-perspective comparison.

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
SMH. Again. Rogue planet and the machine shares the same space (as the machine is PHYSICALLY on the rogue planet when it was activated). Pls look at how big the machine is in direct non-perspective comparison.
It's look at very big,though

a88378438
I think this is good show how big of the machine,when it's on the rogue planet:
Anyway,i found when machine on the mars,iron man on the bottom of the machine,it's could be to know how big of the machine,then rogue planet

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
It's look at very big,though

facepalm

Here is the machine on the rogue planet (which share the same physical space):

http://i.imgur.com/ewv9l4K.png

Taken from this scan with a DIRECT comparison of the machine vs Earth AND the rogue planet.

http://i.imgur.com/EHnQxnzl.png

If you don't get it by now, you're hopeless...

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
facepalm

Here is the machine on the rogue planet (which share the same physical space):

http://i.imgur.com/ewv9l4K.png

Taken from this scan with a DIRECT comparison of the machine vs Earth AND the rogue planet.

http://i.imgur.com/EHnQxnzl.png

If you don't get it by now, you're hopeless...
I see it,the machine is very big,but that not really comparison earth,because that not from normal space to comparison their of size,this scan it's show us when rogue planet into earth,they are in the same space,which isnt a real comparison

Nibedicus
It looks like we gotta go full spoonfeed mode now....

Ok, answer this, does the rogue planet and the machine share the same space (yes/no)?

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
It looks like we gotta go full spoonfeed mode now....

Ok, answer this, does the rogue planet and the machine share the same space (yes/no)?
Yes,but not same size

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
Yes,but not same size

Seeing as they share the same space, then there is no reason to assume that their sizes get affected in relation to each other (yes/no)?

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Seeing as they share the same space, then there is no reason to assume that their sizes get affected in relation to each other (yes/no)?
I dont agree with that,if you choise scan,the rogue planet should be much bigger than earth,but that mean iron man machine must be as big as moon or close to moon of size,which is obviously wrong

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
I dont agree with that,if you choise scan,the rogue planet should be much bigger than earth,but that mean iron man machine must be as big as moon or close to moon of size,which is obviously wrong

There's nothing in my question that alludes to a size measurement. Just an establishing of logical parameters.

Again, is there any reason/evidence that alludes to a change of size between the machine and the rogue planet IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER (yes/no)?

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
There's nothing in my question that alludes to a size measurement. Just an establishing of logical parameters.

Again, is there any reason/evidence that alludes to a change of size between the machine and the rogue planet IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER (yes/no)?
If you want to discussion, I'd like to, but it is not necessary to treat me like a child
I found when machine on the mars,iron man on the bottom of the machine,then it's should be know how big of machine,and i give you when machine on the rogue planet,it's look like very big
but what this?I mean,it's look like isnt like machine
http://imgur.com/ewv9l4K
See?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114397/3534449-5870089501-35339.jpg
that not machine's top

Nibedicus
Lol. This just keeps getting better and better. facepalm

Are you saying the artist just drew a random machine-like structure of similar color and approximate shape (given artistic license given distance) for laughs and decided NOT to include the ACTUAL machine?

laughing out loud

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Lol. This just keeps getting better and better. facepalm

Are you saying the artist just drew a random machine-like structure of similar color and approximate shape (given artistic license given distance) for laughs and decided NOT to include the ACTUAL machine?

laughing out loud
You scan show the machine's top was convex,but when machine on the rogue planet,it's concave,I dont think that not machine,just not top,we dont know that which part of machine,also,you cant comparison it,when each other into same space,that not normal space,which isnt enough credible,but when machine on the mars,you can see iron man,ms marvel,caption amertion on the bottom of the machine,and writer show whole machine size on Mars,by the size,you can rough to know how big of the machine then how big of the rogue planet
though,that my point

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
You scan show the machine's top was convex,but when machine on the rogue planet,it's concave,I dont think that not machine,just not top,we dont know that which part of machine,

When a round object is tilted away from the viewer, it tends to take that shape. Notice the antennae on top of the machine? It's there, too, use that for scale.

Also, artistic liscense in terms of distancing. It's not as if this is the first time an artist has made shortcuts in terms of details when an object is drawn from very far away. SMH.

Originally posted by a88378438
also,you cant comparison it,when each other into same space,that not normal space,which isnt enough credible,

The machine and the planet shared the same space. There is no reason that their representation of size in relation to each other should change. At this moment, you're just grasping at straws.

Either you post evidence on why their sizes in relation to each other would change or concede. Put up or shut up.

Originally posted by a88378438
but when machine on the mars,you can see iron man,ms marvel,caption amertion on the bottom of the machine,and writer show whole machine size on Mars,by the size,you can rough to know how big of the machine then how big of the rogue planet though,that my point

You don't have the comic, I do. There was never a time when the machine and Iron Man/Cap was scaled directly with the actual machine.

What you have is a THEORY about a RANDOM part of the ship that may as well be ANY OTHER RANDOM part of the ship that just may have many parts that look similar to each other. You have no proof that this part of the machine is the exact same part of the machine, they just look similar (actually, not even all that similar tbh).

Do you realize how weak your "evidence" is? You're requiring that our evidence be beyond reproach yet you cling to an extremely weak, theoretical, pretty damn near baseless concept and pretty much hold onto it for dear life even though you've been presented numerous corroborative evidence that proves that it is not the case...

At this point, you're just saying things just so that you'd have something to say h1-style.

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
When a round object is tilted away from the viewer, it tends to take that shape. Notice the antennae on top of the machine? It's there, too, use that for scale.

Also, artistic liscense in terms of distancing. It's not as if this is the first time an artist has made shortcuts in terms of details when an object is drawn from very far away. SMH.



The machine and the planet shared the same space. There is no reason that their representation of size in relation to each other should change. At this moment, you're just grasping at straws.

Either you post evidence on why their sizes in relation to each other would change or concede. Put up or shut up.



You don't have the comic, I do. There was never a time when the machine and Iron Man/Cap was scaled directly with the actual machine.

What you have is a THEORY about a RANDOM part of the ship that may as well be ANY OTHER RANDOM part of the ship that just may have many parts that look similar to each other. You have no proof that this part of the machine is the exact same part of the machine, they just look similar (actually, not even all that similar tbh).

Do you realize how weak your "evidence" is? You're requiring that our evidence be beyond reproach yet you cling to an extremely weak, theoretical, pretty damn near baseless concept and pretty much hold onto it for dear life even though you've been presented numerous corroborative evidence that proves that it is not the case...

At this point, you're just saying things just so that you'd have something to say h1-style.
Your mood is disgusting,even i'm wrong,This also proves that you are rude to the people,i dont want to debate it's was machine top or not,just give you my point,it's look like isnt machine top from my EYES,though,when iron man on the bottom of machine,it's was same bottom,When the machine image magnification, You can see ms marvel on the bottom,how big of she,then to know how big of the machine,it's very clear

a88378438
shut up?
Really?can you prove when rogue planet into earth that prove each other was same size?
Prove it,or shut up?
That?

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
Your mood is disgusting,

And many find people who are intentionally obtuse to be annoying and trollish. So boohoo to you.

Originally posted by a88378438
even i'm wrong

You are wrong.

Originally posted by a88378438
,This also proves that you are rude to the people,i dont want to debate it's was machine top or not,just give you my point,it's look like isnt machine top from my EYES,

You're seeing what you want to see. I already made my point, again, check the antennae for scale if you want.

Originally posted by a88378438
though,when iron man on the bottom of machine,it's was same bottom,

You're seeing what you want to see. Again, random part of a machine that may look just like any other random part of a machine does not equate to evidence.

Originally posted by a88378438
When the machine image magnification, You can see ms marvel on the bottom,how big of she,then to know how big of the machine,it's very clear

You're seeing what you want to see. All I see are random dots that does not look like ms marvel to me, at least not in the scan you provided.

There's a term we call people who only see what you want to see: Confirmation bias. And that, my friend, is what you are currently suffering from.

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
shut up?
Really?can you prove when rogue planet into earth that prove each other was same size?
Prove it,or shut up?
That?

Put up or shut up is an english expression. Meaning provide what is requested (in this case, evidence of size change as you made the assertion that the panel is not "credible" due to the the sharing of space) or concede the point.

Proof that the earth and the rogue planet was the same size? It's there clear as day in the scan I provided (which you constantly try to ignore).

Corroborated further by the size of the machine in relation to mars and the numerous scans that disprove your size relation scan. My evidence has a higher quantity and quality than yours in terms of size comparison between the machine and the rogue planet (the full page spread with the machine and the multiple panels showing the machine impacting the planet)

Your turn.

What is your proof that the machine changed its size in relation to the rogue planet during the merging?

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
And many find people who are intentionally obtuse to be annoying and trollish. So boohoo to you.



You are wrong.



You're seeing what you want to see. I already made my point, again, check the antennae for scale if you want.



You're seeing what you want to see. Again, random part of a machine that may look just like any other random part of a machine does not equate to evidence.



You're seeing what you want to see. All I see are random dots that does not look like ms marvel to me, at least not in the scan you provided.

There's a term we call people who only see what you want to see: Confirmation bias. And that, my friend, is what you are currently suffering from.
It's not random part of the machine,it's same bottom,not other place,when ms marvel irom man on the bottom,then image to enlarge,you can see bottom of the machine in the scan

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
It's not random part of the machine,it's same bottom,not other place,when ms marvel irom man on the bottom,then image to enlarge,you can see bottom of the machine in the scan

A random bottom of the machine that may or may not look like other parts of the machine.

Again, weak evidence only insisted upon by you due to your confirmation bias.

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Put up or shut up is an english expression. Meaning provide what is requested (in this case, evidence of size change as you made the assertion that the panel is "undependable" due to the the sharing of space) or concede the point.

Proof that the earth and the rogue planet was the same size? It's there clear as day in the scan I provided (which you constantly try to ignore).

Corroborated further by the size of the machine in relation to mars and the numerous scans that disprove your size relation scan. My evidence has a higher quantity and quality than yours in terms of size comparison between the machine and the rogue planet (the full page spread with the machine and the multiple panels showing the machine impacting the planet)

Your turn.

What is your proof that the machine changed its size in relation to the rogue planet during the merging?
You not prove it,I said they are was same space that not normal space,This comparison is not credible

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
A random bottom of the machine that may or may not look like other parts of the machine.

Again, weak evidence only insisted upon by you due to your confirmation bias.
How?bottom of the machine is flat,not uneven,any part of machine was same flat and size

DarkSaint85
This thread is incredible.

The two planets, when occupying the exact same space, overlap each other. One is noticeably larger than the other. It's like putting one hand on top of another, except in this case, it would be even more accurate as you don't have any tricks of perspective.

Like some other scans...

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
You not prove it,I said they are was same space that not normal space,This comparison is not credible

And why is it "not credible" is there any evidence that the size was altered in any way?

I'm talking about the machine and the rogue planet here.

Originally posted by a88378438
How?bottom of the machine is flat,not uneven,any part of machine was same flat and size

facepalm

Random bottom part that looks similiar (in a machine that would have many similar parts) does not equal same exact place.

How are you not absorbing this?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This thread is incredible.

The two planets, when occupying the exact same space, overlap each other. One is noticeably larger than the other. It's like putting one hand on top of another, except in this case, it would be even more accurate as you don't have any tricks of perspective.

Like some other scans...

Yeah, I'm thinking this guy is either just so desperate for the "feat" not to be so or is trolling me. Either way, he's being purposely obtuse.

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
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And why is it "not credible" is there any evidence that the size was altered in any way?

I'm talking about the machine and the rogue planet here.



facepalm

Random bottom part that looks similiar (in a machine that would have many similar parts) does not equal same exact place.

How are you not absorbing this?
So what you mean?when iron man stand a whole different bottom?what?it's was same bottom,that very clear
I dont have enough scan could prove it,but that not happen in the normal space,so it's maybe different,In my opinion it is questionable,No matter what you said

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
So what you mean?when iron man stand a whole different bottom?what?it's was same bottom,that very clear

facepalm

With a machine this large, there will be many "bottoms" that look similar to each other. Some may even look a bit like the larger parts of the ship. While Iron Man may well have stood at the "bottom" this is not the bottom of the machine you're trying to represent here in terms of scale.

Are you dense? How can you not see this?

BTW, this scan:

http://i.imgur.com/FQNDLA2l.png

Happened THREE DAYS before this scan:

http://i.imgur.com/LAl3kkBl.png


Originally posted by a88378438
I dont have enough scan could prove it,but that not happen in the normal space,so it's maybe different,In my opinion it is questionable,No matter what you said

Meaning you have no proof of your little theory, just that you're willing to say anything just to cast doubt on the EXTREMELY solid no-brainer evidence in front of you just because you don't like it.

thumb down

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
facepalm

With a machine this large, there will be many "bottoms" that look similar to each other. Some may even look a bit like the larger parts of the ship. While Iron Man may well have stood at the "bottom" this is not the bottom of the machine you're trying to represent here in terms of scale.

Are you dense? How can you not see this?

BTW, this scan:

http://i.imgur.com/FQNDLA2l.png

Happened THREE DAYS before this scan:

http://i.imgur.com/LAl3kkBl.png




Meaning you have no proof of your little theory, just that you're willing to say anything just to cast doubt on the EXTREMELY solid no-brainer evidence in front of you just because you don't like it.

thumb down
Where have different bottom???did you see iron man stand the mars which not any part of machine,he stand the mars,and give me other part of machine have Similar bottom when iron man stand the bottom,show me
It's not different,that not happen in the normal space,I doubt it what's wrong?if rogue planet bigger than earth,then machine must be close to moon of size,how?when a moon-size thing on the mars?

a88378438
See,that not have any other part of bottom,only one bottom

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
Where have different bottom???did you see iron man stand the mars which not any part of machine,he stand the mars,and give me other part of machine have Similar bottom when iron man stand the bottom,show me
It's not different,that not happen in the normal space,I doubt it what's wrong?

OMG....

This is getting really stupid.

Do you know how big the machine is?

Do you know how much of it is right on the surface of Mars?

Do you understand the concept of "a large machine will have many parts that look approximately alike"?

Do you understand the concept that Iron Man may well be standing on a part of the machine that is on the surface of Mars that share a FEW shape characteristics with some of the larger parts of the machine?

Are you just trolling or what?

Originally posted by a88378438
if rogue planet bigger than earth,then machine must be close to moon of size,how?when a moon-size thing on the mars?

How many times do I need to keep reposting this scan???

This is the actual size of the machine in relation to the rogue planet.

http://i.imgur.com/ewv9l4Kl.png

Which when compared to its size vs Mars:

http://i.imgur.com/25R1wgol.png

Is pretty damn near consistent comparatively.

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
OMG....

This is getting really stupid.

Do you know how big the machine is?

Do you know how much of it is right on the surface of Mars?

Do you understand the concept of "a large machine will have many parts that look approximately alike"?

Do you understand the concept that Iron Man may well be standing on a part of the machine that is on the surface of Mars that share a FEW shape characteristics with some of the larger parts of the machine?

Are you just trolling or what?



How many times do I need to keep reposting this scan???

This is the actual size of the machine in relation to the rogue planet.

http://i.imgur.com/ewv9l4Kl.png

Which when compared to its size vs Mars:

http://i.imgur.com/25R1wgol.png

Is pretty damn near consistent comparatively.
The writer show us machine on the mars,so,can you found any part of bottom?really,i dont know who is stupid,there isnt have different bottom,stop trolling
That not a good scan,only a unknow part of the machine'
here,how big of the machine:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&action=thumbnail&postid=14583937
The machine was above the mars,that not prove anything
here was when machine on the mars:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&action=thumbnail&postid=14583941

a88378438
The machine is close to moon-size
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3541198-5724299914-35411.gif
how big of the mars?
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114397/3541199-1142630994-35411.gif
so,a moon-size thing on the mars,lol
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&action=thumbnail&postid=14583941

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by a88378438
You not prove it,I said they are was same space that not normal space,This comparison is not credible

Why is it not credible?

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
The writer show us machine on the mars,so,can you found any part of bottom?

.........

Wow. You're reeally not getting what I'm saying are you??

Originally posted by a88378438
really,i dont know who is stupid

There's a lot of things you don't know it seems. But if you really want an answer, a mirror might be the best thing to give you an anwer.

Originally posted by a88378438
there isnt have different bottom,stop trolling

That not a good scan,only a unknow part of the machine'
here,how big of the machine:

For the answer to this, just read below very very slowly. Let it sink into your mind for a second and let it be your guide to show you to the right answer. Beyond that, there is little else I can do for you, my poor fellow.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Do you know how big the machine is?

Do you know how much of it is right on the surface of Mars?

Do you understand the concept of "a large machine will have many parts that look approximately alike"?

Do you understand the concept that Iron Man may well be standing on a part of the machine that is on the surface of Mars that share a FEW shape characteristics with some of the larger parts of the machine?

Originally posted by a88378438
The machine was above the mars,that not prove anything

The damned thing was on the surface of Mars the whole time. Look at the damned scan:

http://i.imgur.com/KeHxvPa.png

See the pretty red arrows that I've drawn on the scan? See what it's pointing to? That's the ground.


Originally posted by a88378438
here was when machine on the mars:


Which shows very little on how it scales in comparison. It's obvious what constitutes as "evidence" to your biased eyes. It's pretty sad really.

a88378438
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why is it not credible?
Because that not a normal space to compare them,i just doubt when each other into same space so that mean each other was same size..though it's look like rogue planet bigger than earth,but that not comparison's size

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
.........

Wow. You're reeally not getting what I'm saying are you??



There's a lot of things you don't know it seems. But if you really want an answer, a mirror might be the best thing to give you an anwer.



For the answer to this, just read below very very slowly. Let it sink into your mind for a second and let it be your guide to show you to the right answer. Beyond that, there is little else I can do for you, my poor fellow.





The damned thing was on the surface of Mars the whole time. Look at the damned scan:

http://i.imgur.com/KeHxvPa.png

See the pretty red arrows that I've drawn on the scan? See what it's pointing to? That's the ground.




Which shows very little on how it scales in comparison. It's obvious what constitutes as "evidence" to your biased eyes. It's pretty sad really.
You scan prove my point,they are stand the mars,they are close to machine's bottom,then writer show us machine'full size scan,what's wrong?
there isnt have different bottom

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
You scan prove my point,they are stand the mars,they are close to machine's bottom,then writer show us machine'full size scan,what's wrong?
there isnt have different bottom

Are you freakin kidding me? Pls show where in the scan they were shown to-scale vs the machine?

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Are you freakin kidding me? Pls show where in the scan they were shown to-scale vs the machine?
I post scan in the before,iron man on the bottom of the machine,then we have full-size of machine scan
you can see the machine's bottom on the scan,see iron man,ms marvel on the bottom,that can give you how big of the machine idea

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by a88378438
Because that not a normal space to compare them,i just doubt when each other into same space so that mean each other was same size..though it's look like rogue planet bigger than earth,but that not comparison's size

What is the basis of your doubt?

Do you have evidence to suggest that being out of phase shrinks something?

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
I post scan in the before,iron man on the bottom of the machine,then we have full-size of machine scan
you can see the machine's bottom on the scan,see iron man,ms marvel on the bottom,that can give you how big of the machine idea

I have the comic. At no time were they ever shown directly to-scale vs the machine. They were drawn in front of random lower parts of the machine and at no time was that contrasted with the machine as a whole.

Stop making stuff up.

This has gone far enough. Let's request a mod ruling and be done with this.

a88378438
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What is the basis of your doubt?

Do you have evidence to suggest that being out of phase shrinks something?
No,i just think that not happen in the normal space,so that was suspicious,Especially that machine so big,if rogue planet bigger than earth,the machine must be very big too,It is doubtful when i see iron man on the bottom's machine in the mars

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I have the comic. At no time were they ever shown directly to-scale vs the machine. They were drawn in front of random lower parts of the machine and at no time was that contrasted with the machine as a whole.

Stop making stuff up.

This has gone far enough. Let's request a mod ruling and be done with this.
That no any different bottom,only one
I dont know what you think,but when iron man on the bottom,i can get a how big of the machine idea

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by a88378438
No,i just think that not happen in the normal space,so that was suspicious,Especially that machine so big,if rogue planet bigger than earth,the machine must be very big too,It is doubtful when i see iron man on the bottom's machine in the mars

Ok. Well, you can keep your suspicions. After all, we might as well theorise that Iron Man's tech, coupled with Iron Man 3030's tech and knowhow, enables them to create a machine that is small on Mars, then unfolds and becomes massive in space.

After all, if Pym in 2014 (or whenever its set) can do it, Iron Man 3030 MUST have access to the same tech, seeing as he's from the far future?

a88378438
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok. Well, you can keep your suspicions. After all, we might as well theorise that Iron Man's tech, coupled with Iron Man 3030's tech and knowhow, enables them to create a machine that is small on Mars, then unfolds and becomes massive in space.

After all, if Pym in 2014 (or whenever its set) can do it, Iron Man 3030 MUST have access to the same tech, seeing as he's from the far future?
Yes,i just suspicions it,I'm tell him there isnt scan prove it,but was strange

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
That no any different bottom,only one
I dont know what you think,but when iron man on the bottom,i can get a how big of the machine idea

I don't know why you can't get that the bottom of the machine is so vast that there will be many parts of it that will look similar to each other and similar to other parts of the machine. But I'm about done talking to you. Calling in a mod for a ruling.

In order for you to "get how big of the machine" was due to Iron Man, you'll need to contrast him against the whole machine. WHICH NEVER HAPPENS. You have a size you want the machine to be and simply insist on it with no logic backing you at this point.

DarkSaint85
Fine, everyone is right.

IM 3030 shrunk then expanded it with quantum tesseract technology on a picoscale, by expanding it from the infinte levels of the Microverse.

a88378438
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I don't know why you can't get that the bottom of the machine is so vsst that there will be many parts of it that will look similar to each other and similar to other parts of the machine. But I'm about done talking to you. Calling in a mod for a ruling.

In order for you to "get how big of the machine" was due to Iron Man, you'll need to contrast him against the whole machine. WHICH NEVER HAPPENS. You have a size you want the machine to be and simply insist on it with no logic backing you at this point.
But i see they are was same bottom,and there isnt have other similar part of bottom

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
But i see they are was same bottom,and there isnt have other similar part of bottom

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I don't know why you can't get that the bottom of the machine is so vast that there will be many parts of it that will look similar to each other and similar to other parts of the machine.

a88378438
Ok,i show you when iron man on the bottom,and show you machine's bottom
they was same thing,same machine,there isnt have different bottom,if it's have it,show me scan

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
Ok,i show you when iron man on the bottom,and show you machine's bottom
they was same thing,same machine,there isnt have different bottom,if it's have it,show me scan

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I don't know why you can't get that the bottom of the machine is so vast that there will be many parts of it that will look similar to each other and similar to other parts of the machine.

a88378438
Why said it again?the scan isnt have differnet bottom,you just going to whole different related topics

Nibedicus
Originally posted by a88378438
Why said it again?the scan isnt have differnet bottom,you just going to whole different related topics

If you haven't gotten it by now, you'll never get it so I'm not gonna waste my time anymore.

Scarlet315
How does he beat Icon for sure when Icon's strength is stated by wikipedia to be "...massive superhuman-strength, super-speed, super-reflexes, super-stamina, enhance-mental perception, enhance-senses, regenerative-healing factor, longevity, ability to generate and project positron energy blasts."

Also stated that, "Icon possesses vast superhuman strength. Icon, at one point punched Superman out of the WatchTower 50ft into space. Later, Superman admitted that nobody including Darkseid EVER hit him that hard"

carver9
Originally posted by Scarlet315
How does he beat Icon for sure when Icon's strength is stated by wikipedia to be "...massive superhuman-strength, super-speed, super-reflexes, super-stamina, enhance-mental perception, enhance-senses, regenerative-healing factor, longevity, ability to generate and project positron energy blasts."

Also stated that, "Icon possesses vast superhuman strength. Icon, at one point punched Superman out of the WatchTower 50ft into space. Later, Superman admitted that nobody including Darkseid EVER hit him that hard"

Are you aware of Hyperion powers and fts?

Scarlet315
If it was a free for all, i would say that Majestic takes them both out all due to his slight telekinesis and incredible control over his body and powers.

Scarlet315
If we're going based on this:"Just to avoid any confusion, I'm referring to this Hyperion:
http://retconpunchdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/can-these-two-just-get-their-own-ax-story-already.jpg?w=593"

...and this "The heroic Earth-712 version of Hyperion also possesses the ability to use cosmic energy to augment his life force granting him great longevity and regenerative abilities, courtesy of his Eternal heritage."

Then yeah i'd say that icon stands a chance

carver9
Originally posted by Scarlet315
If it was a free for all, i would say that Majestic takes them both out all due to his slight telekinesis and incredible control over his body and powers.

Again, are you aware of Hyperions fts?

Scarlet315
Originally posted by carver9
Again, are you aware of Hyperions fts?

Enlighten me...I really would like to know how Icon's "massive strength" won't play a factor here. What am i missing that Hyperion can do?

carver9
Originally posted by Scarlet315
Enlighten me...I really would like to know how Icon's "massive strength" won't play a factor here. What am i missing that Hyperion can do?

Two Universes was about to collide with each other and Hyperion prevented both of the Universes from touching each other with nothing but pure brute strength. Hyperion recently stopped a planet that was going 500 thousand miles per second with nothing but brute strength. This doesn't include him dipping through the head of a being that possessed Unlimited power and taking on the entire Avengers roster and holding his own.

The fts you named sucks in comparison to what Hyperion has achieved within a yrs time.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Two Universes was about to collide with each other and Hyperion prevented both of the Universes from touching each other with nothing but pure brute strength. Hyperion recently stopped a planet that was going 500 thousand miles per second with nothing but brute strength. This doesn't include him dipping through the head of a being that possessed Unlimited power and taking on the entire Avengers roster and holding his own.

The fts you named sucks in comparison to what Hyperion has achieved within a yrs time.

Whelp, this isn't even Scan Daddy-Prime's final form.

Golgo13
Lol.

Scarlet315
I've seen the feats but since icon is not as popular it's not easy to pull up his so i'm basing this on descriptions of their various powers and what they can potentially do.

carver9
Originally posted by Scarlet315
I've seen the feats but since icon is not as popular it's not easy to pull up his so i'm basing this on descriptions of their various powers and what they can potentially do.

Well, you're wrong.

Scarlet315
whatever gets you thru the night. still not convinced

carver9
Originally posted by Scarlet315
whatever gets you thru the night. still not convinced

So what fts does Icon have that proves he can beat Hyperion?

carver9
Hyperion holding back two Universes.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14972905/Avengers_004-Zone-013.jpg.html

Both universe explodes due to the strain and Hyperion survives it without a scratch and he's actually still awake.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14972907/Avengers_004-Zone-014.jpg.html

But you think Icon can beat Hyperion because of a statement that we don't even know is true.

Scarlet315
Originally posted by carver9
Hyperion holding back two Universes.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14972905/Avengers_004-Zone-013.jpg.html

Both universe explodes due to the strain and Hyperion survives it without a scratch and he's actually still awake.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/14972907/Avengers_004-Zone-014.jpg.html

But you think Icon can beat Hyperion because of a statement that we don't even know is true.

Exactly my point no way of knowing if it's true. It's like you're saying Icon loses just cause. Right now it's just my opinion, not fact, same with yours. What you're showing me are just feats of Hyperion but for me i can't be convinced not unless there are current issues displaying Icon's powersets.

carver9
Originally posted by Scarlet315
Exactly my point no way of knowing if it's true. It's like you're saying Icon loses just cause. Right now it's just my opinion, not fact, same with yours. What you're showing me are just feats of Hyperion but for me i can't be convinced not unless there are current issues displaying Icon's powersets.

So if I said Shang Chi can beat Icon, that makes it true?

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Scarlet315
How does he beat Icon for sure when Icon's strength is stated by wikipedia to be "...massive superhuman-strength, super-speed, super-reflexes, super-stamina, enhance-mental perception, enhance-senses, regenerative-healing factor, longevity, ability to generate and project positron energy blasts."

Also stated that, "Icon possesses vast superhuman strength. Icon, at one point punched Superman out of the WatchTower 50ft into space. Later, Superman admitted that nobody including Darkseid EVER hit him that hard" flawless logic

celeyhyga17
Lol

Khazra Reborn
I know Hickman's Hyperion hasn't been around that long, but his combat feats haven't been overly impressive. I don't know much about Icon, but I see no reason Mr. Majestic couldn't win.

psycho gundam
plus your sig n avy

Scarlet315
Originally posted by psycho gundam
flawless logic

Thanks

carver9
Originally posted by Scarlet315
Thanks

He was being sarcastic.

Golgo13
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
I know Hickman's Hyperion hasn't been around that long, but his combat feats haven't been overly impressive. I don't know much about Icon, but I see no reason Mr. Majestic couldn't win.

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celeyhyga17
Team should win.

ODG
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Also, I just noticed that platform Hulk knocked into orbit on the top right of the rogue planet. It's probably the size of a small country. A nice feat for Hulk since he knocked from orbit onto the rogue planet despite it's speed. I didn't notice that myself until you pointed it out just now. Hulk smacking an object that large sorta pales in comparison to catching a planet traveling at those kinds of speeds.

psycho gundam
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Originally posted by carver9
I posted that ft in the hulk respect thread.

Lest we forget

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