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Raging power personified meets the Homicidal Concept.

Pre-DCnU Lobo
vs
Current Hulk

What are Lobo's powers?

Are you giving him blood clones etc?

They both beat each other to a pulp. They then perform strength feats which are completely irrelevant and tear down the laws of physics and the fabric of space shaking and awakening long dormant dimensions, of which hold the multiverse' most evil and menacing beings, they join forces and punch empty space which some how sow's the fabric of space back together, when the deed is done they lock eyes...hulk grunts and drools, lobo calls him a ****** and that he has had turds better looking than he is....they both go their separate ways because there is no clear winner between Lobo and The Hulk..unless one of them punches back in time before the other is born, of course.

Originally posted by LeonBuco666
They both beat each other to a pulp. They then perform strength feats which are completely irrelevant and tear down the laws of physics and the fabric of space shaking and awakening long dormant dimensions, of which hold the multiverse' most evil and menacing beings, they join forces and punch empty space which some how sow's the fabric of space back together, when the deed is done they lock eyes...hulk grunts and drools, lobo calls him a ****** and that he has had turds better looking than he is....they both go their separate ways because there is no clear winner between Lobo and The Hulk..unless one of them punches back in time before the other is born, of course.

Lol...makes sense.

LOBO aint a angry nerd in purple pants so I voted for HIM.

Hulk definitively wins.

Just to ask What are Current Hulk Levels?

World breaking.

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Random/Starbrand04.jpg.html?

to be honest he didn't actually break anything in that scan.

Hulk wins. Not really sure exactly how Lobo is going to go about beating the Hulk in a fight? I just don't see any real options here for Lobo and whatever chance he has will shrink the longer the fight lasts. Against someone like Thor or Orion, I guess you could argue his healing factor might allow him to sustain damage indefinitely for some kind of stalemate (But as we saw against Smite, being able to regrow half your torso in seconds doesn't make much difference against a peer) but that's not something that could be said against the Hulk.

Originally posted by Warlord
to be honest he didn't actually break anything in that scan.

Never said he did but what I'm doing is pointing out where writers place him at.

Hulk surronds Hulk with puppies and kittens and while Hulk is trying not to trample any of the cuteness LOBO hacks Hulks head off with an adamantuim Hook and chain.


TA DA!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk wins. Not really sure exactly how Lobo is going to go about beating the Hulk in a fight? I just don't see any real options here for Lobo and whatever chance he has will shrink the longer the fight lasts. Against someone like Thor or Orion, I guess you could argue his healing factor might allow him to sustain damage indefinitely (Which isn't true. As we saw against Smite, being able to regrow half your torso in seconds doesn't make much difference against a peer) but that's not something that could be said against the Hulk.

Here is a token for info. Lobo strength is rage infused. He gets stronger, as he gets angrier. No one has ever matched Lobo, at his peak.

Originally posted by carver9
World breaking.

http://s388.photobucket.com/user/OneDumbG0/media/Random/Starbrand04.jpg.html?
World broken.
http://imgur.com/OkVp5UF

Originally posted by "Id"
Here is a token for info. Lobo strength is rage infused. He gets stronger, as he gets angrier. No one has ever matched Lobo, at his peak.

Scans? I can honestly say I don't remember this ever being brought up. At least in fights that I can recall.

Is it an actual thing that I've missed or just some cleverly worded panel? Because he's fighting the Hulk here.

Current Hulk gets creamed by Lobo.

Originally posted by Estacado
Current Hulk gets creamed by Lobo. Based on ?

Originally posted by Estacado
Current Hulk gets creamed by Lobo.



Lol. No way.

Comics.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Scans? I can honestly say I don't remember this ever being brought up. At least in fights that I can recall.

Is it an actual thing that I've missed or just some cleverly worded panel? Because he's fighting the Hulk here and technically Ulik has dynamic anger fueled strength but that doesn't mean anything either.
It was clearly worded.

It was mentioned in "the Last of Us". It also goes on to say that his adrenaline intensity that fuels his strength, is sustained for as long as his healing factor can hold up.

Anyhow here is another example:
Normal Lobo
http://imgur.com/3zXg3Yw

Rage Fueld Lobo
http://imgur.com/fWh0Zzi
http://imgur.com/dNzPZdv

Lobo strength increasing might just be a one time phrase that has no relevance or on panel depictions (kind of like Doomsday...said the same thing about him but nothing shown on panel proving if the statement is true).

Originally posted by Estacado
Comics. Make a case not just a blanket statement.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Make a case not just a blanket statement.
Lost eh?
This isnt the Harry Potter forum...

Originally posted by carver9
Lobo strength increasing might just be a one time phrase that has no relevance or on panel depictions (kind of like Doomsday...said the same thing about him but nothing shown on panel proving if the statement is true).

One time thing? Why do you think he has dynamic strength to begin with? All his high end showing, the ones where he suddenly leaps beyond what a Herald can do, have a common factor. Its him entering those berserk rage. Its been a part of his history since his re-introduction from Omega Man.

Originally posted by "Id"
It was clearly worded.

It was mentioned in "the Last of Us". It also goes on to say that his adrenaline intensity that fuels his strength, is sustained for as long as his healing factor can hold up.

Which story is the Last of Us?

What you're describing says that his healing factor can maintain the boost he gets from his adrenaline levels. Which actually makes sense and has also been attributed to Wolverine. Getting stronger because his adrenaline is pumping doesn't mean he has dynamic strength. I also don't understand why you think that proves NO ONE has ever faced Lobo's peak strength? We've seen an angry Lobo fight other Heralds.

Like I said, a cleverly worded panel doesn't actually mean anything in a fight with the Hulk. Lobo having "dynamic strength" is about as relevant as Ulik's "dynamic strength" in a fight with the Hulk.

Originally posted by "Id"
Anyhow here is another example:
Normal Lobo
http://imgur.com/3zXg3Yw

Rage Fueld Lobo
http://imgur.com/fWh0Zzi
http://imgur.com/dNzPZdv

I don't understand what these scans are suppose to mean?

He grew from a smear to his full sized body which is cool I guess but I never denied that this was beyond his healing factor's capability. What is this suppose to mean in a fight against the Hulk though?

Originally posted by "Id"
All his high end showing, the ones where he suddenly leaps beyond what a Herald can do, have a common factor. Its him entering those berserk rage.

You literally just defined like every other Herald strong man out there.

Comparing this to the Hulk is just freaking silly bro.

Lobo DOES fluctuate more then other characters as he can go from being crushed by a bulldozer to trading blows with heralds but that's a result of his more cartoonish appearances.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You literally just defined like every other Herald strong man out there.

Comparing this to the Hulk is just freaking silly bro. Exactly. Acting like he has dynamic strength which is acknowledged by virtually every writer who has handled the hulk for years to a few comments and a faulty justification is just wishful thinking.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Which story is the Last of Us?

What you're describing says that his healing factor can maintain the boost he gets from his adrenaline levels. Which actually makes sense and has also been attributed to Wolverine. Getting stronger because his adrenaline is pumping doesn't mean he has dynamic strength. I also don't understand why you think that proves NO ONE has ever faced Lobo's peak strength? We've seen an angry Lobo fight other Heralds.

Like I said, a cleverly worded panel doesn't actually mean anything in a fight with the Hulk. Lobo having "dynamic strength" is about as relevant as Ulik's "dynamic strength" in a fight with the Hulk.



I don't understand what these scans are suppose to mean?

He grew from a smear to his full sized body which is cool I guess but I never denied that this was beyond his healing factor's capability. What is this suppose to mean in a fight against the Hulk though?
The book is called. "DC Universe: Last Sons"

What it means is very simple. He strength goes up, as his rage intensifies.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Exactly. Acting like he has dynamic strength which is acknowledged by virtually every writer who has handled the hulk for years to a few comments and a faulty justification is just wishful thinking.
Yup. That was the entire reasoning behind Blood and Thunder and Thor's ever increasing strength:
http://s22.postimg.org/v00lq1p8t/Thor_Strength_Interview.jpg

That and with all the other times Thor's outright outperformed his previous levels, there's far more evidence to support Thor having dynamic strength then Lobo. But he doesn't. Not like the Hulk.

Originally posted by "Id"
The book is called. "DC Universe: Last Sons"

What it means is very simple. He strength goes up, as his rage intensifies.

Wait, this one:
http://www.amazon.com/DC-Universe-Last-Alan-Grant/dp/1599506483

Lol, that seems to be some kind of audio book?

No, it really doesn't. Maybe you described it wrong but that's not what it means.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


Lobo DOES fluctuate more then other characters as he can go from being crushed by a bulldozer to trading blows with heralds but that's a result of his more cartoonish appearances.
Your being childish. Look outside his own titles, that are meant to appeal to dark humor. And into his mainstream appearances. Lobo is one of the most consist heralds, without entering his Berserk Rage.

Originally posted by "Id"
Your being childish. Look outside his own titles, that are meant to appeal to dark humor. And into his mainstream appearances. Lobo is one of the most consist heralds, without entering his Berserk Rage.

I really don't think I'm the one being childish here.

Lol, berserk rage? Really? Since when is that a thing? Can you reference a single fight where Lobo overcame an enemy due to dynamic strength? You seem to be confusing getting pushed and overcoming one's limitations with dynamic strength. And not just anyone's dynamic strength, the freaking Hulk's.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wait, this one:
http://www.amazon.com/DC-Universe-Last-Alan-Grant/dp/1599506483

Lol, that seems to be some kind of audio book?

No, it really doesn't. Maybe you described it wrong but that's not what it means.
Its a book. It was also released as an audio book.

In the book, he is locked up in a cell that zaps him every time he strikes it. However the cell also drains his emotional energy. Lobo finds out that he can not build up his anger, and thus his strength to teardown the cell, because the prison drains him of his anger/rage.

The book is quiet literal about it.

At base/average levels, Lobo wins. It's near impossible to take him out with his healing factor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I really don't think I'm the one being childish here.

Lol, berserk rage? Really? Since when is that a thing? Can you reference a single fight where Lobo overcame an enemy due to dynamic strength? You seem to be confusing getting pushed and overcoming one's limitations with dynamic strength. And not just anyone's dynamic strength, the freaking Hulk's.
Lobo's Back. When he tore through the armies of Heaven, Hell, and the Gods. mhmm

Don't forget as well, people - it's current Hulk, who doesn't go into WBH mode or anything.

Originally posted by "Id"
Lobo's Back. When he tore through the armies of Heaven, Hell, and the Gods. mhmm

First of all, please make up your mind:
Originally posted by "Id"
Look outside his own titles, that are meant to appeal to dark humor. And into his mainstream appearances.

You seem to realize that his own titles are a completely different animal from mainstream comics but seem to want to use them and ignore them at the same time.

Also, at what point in that comic was dynamic strength referenced?

Originally posted by Golgo13
At base/average levels, Lobo wins. It's near impossible to take him out with his healing factor.

And how does that let him beat the Hulk exactly? At best, it's an indefinite stalemate as Hulk beats him into paste and Lobo reforms.

Originally posted by "Id"
Its a book. It was also released as an audio book.

In the book, he is locked up in a cell that zaps him every time he strikes it. However the cell also drains his emotional energy. Lobo finds out that he can not build up his anger, and thus his strength to teardown the cell, because the prison drains him of his anger/rage.

The book is quiet literal about it.

Do you have scans? I've never read this book myself and it would solve the issue. Your original description hinted at his strength increasing with adrenaline and being sustained by his healing factor. And even this description doesn't really change anything in a fight with the Hulk.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
First of all, please make up your mind:


You seem to realize that his own titles are a completely different animal from mainstream comics but seem to want to use them and ignore them at the same time.

Also, at what point in that comic was dynamic strength referenced?



And how does that let him beat the Hulk exactly? At best, it's an indefinite stalemate as Hulk beats him into paste and Lobo reforms.

Lobo is quite strong himself. As we've seen in his Superman/Pulsar Stargrave battles. He can KO Hulk, IMO.,

Originally posted by Golgo13
Lobo is quite strong himself. As we've seen in his Superman/Pulsar Stargrave battles. He can KO Hulk, IMO.,

Lol.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Lobo is quite strong himself. As we've seen in his Superman/Pulsar Stargrave battles. He can KO Hulk, IMO.,

Yes he is but he's no Hulk. Not really. Trading blows with elites and tossing around some Stellar Mass is cool but if you think it proves he can beat the Hulk in a hand to hand fight? Well, I guess, that's why opinions are great. Even the uninformed can have them.

Also, his fight with Smite is far more relevant to a fight with the Hulk than tossing Pulsar. And since his first fight against Superman has been retconned, referring to Clark in a fight with the Hulk? Not really the best bet.....

Originally posted by carver9
Lol.

Thanks for agreeing with me.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yup. That was the entire reasoning behind Blood and Thunder and Thor's ever increasing strength:
http://s22.postimg.org/v00lq1p8t/Thor_Strength_Interview.jpg

That and with all the other times Thor's outright outperformed his previous levels, there's far more evidence to support Thor having dynamic strength then Lobo. But he doesn't. Not like the Hulk.
Berserk Rage.
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af319/crimsonlordid/Brutality/Deadly%20Serious/batman_lobo_deadly_serious_2_019_zps888accae.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af319/crimsonlordid/Brutality/Deadly%20Serious/batman_lobo_deadly_serious_2_020-021_zpsea4f648f.jpg

Originally posted by "Id"
Berserk Rage.
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af319/crimsonlordid/Brutality/Deadly%20Serious/batman_lobo_deadly_serious_2_019_zps888accae.jpg
http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af319/crimsonlordid/Brutality/Deadly%20Serious/batman_lobo_deadly_serious_2_020-021_zpsea4f648f.jpg

Lol, from the Batman/Lobo? They were referring to him going on a violence spree. It's not referencing some sort of dynamic strength factor. Strength wasn't even a part of the discussion.



I have to admire your commitment but this theory is being held together by hopes and dreams man. I'm sorry, but I can't even take this seriously anymore. You're usually a pretty logical fellow Id so I'm going to assume this is some sort of joke?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Thanks for agreeing with me.

Hulk holds EVERY advantage in this fight...EVERY advantage. Lobo doesn't have a single thing going for him in this fight that would give him the majority over Hulk. This will end in a beating...a nasty, bloody beating for Lobo.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk holds EVERY advantage in this fight...EVERY advantage. Lobo doesn't have a single thing going for him in this fight that would give him the majority over Hulk. This will end in a beating...a nasty, bloody beating for Lobo.

lol

Originally posted by Golgo13
lol

Glad we agree.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk holds EVERY advantage in this fight...EVERY advantage. Lobo doesn't have a single thing going for him in this fight that would give him the majority over Hulk. This will end in a beating...a nasty, bloody beating for Lobo.
Hulk has his hands full, with a virtual immortal, whose strength can rival his own.

Originally posted by carver9
Glad we agree.

*****!

Originally posted by carver9
This will end in a beating...a nasty, bloody beating for Lobo.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What are Lobo's powers?

Are you giving him blood clones etc?

No clones for lobo

Originally posted by "Id"
No clones for lobo

How do you see this going yourself? Lobo at his height.

Originally posted by Estacado
Lost eh?
This isnt the Harry Potter forum... It is you who can't even answer a simple question.

Originally posted by Golgo13
How do you see this going yourself? Lobo at his height. Is the Hulk at his best too ? Seems like everyone wants to dismiss the Hulks best while exaggerating Lobo's best.

Originally posted by Golgo13
How do you see this going yourself? Lobo at his height.
I don't know. At his height it took the participation of Lord Neron, and his army to contain him.

Originally posted by "Id"
Hulk has his hands full, with a virtual immortal, whose strength can rival his own.

I don't think it will be a walk in the park but with all the advantages Hulk have in this fight, don't see how you could vote against Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
is Hulk at his best too ? Seems like everyone wants to dismiss the. Hulks best while exaggerate Lobo's best.

He's at current levels, I believe.

Originally posted by quanchi112
is Hulk at his best too ? Seems like everyone wants to dismiss the. Hulks best while exaggerate Lobo's best.

I dont think ID wants Hulk at his best.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's at current levels, I believe. If lobo is at his best and the Hulk isn't that an admission Lobo stands no chance whatsoever against the Hulks best.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think ID wants Hulk at his best.
Hey remember this topic?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=558991&pagenumber=1

What you want to turn this into peak values? World Breaker vs I Don't Do Logical?

Yeah sure be my guest, have fun with it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If lobo is at his best and the Hulk isn't that an admission Lobo stands no chance whatsoever against the Hulks best.

Lobo at his best breaks the 4th wall...

Lobo via cartoonish showings

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lobo at his best breaks the 4th wall... So does She Hulk. Who cares ?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lobo at his best breaks the 4th wall...

So does She-Hulk etc.

Not really sure what that's supposed to change?

Also, you'd think the very nature of his more silly comics makes it clear they have no actual relevance to how a fight with the Hulk would go (Or really any other Mainstream hero as every appearance in the Main DC has showcased) but whatever comics are comics so who am I to say what counts and what doesn't? It's when people start picking and choosing which portrayals they deem "acceptable" from that genre that a discussion becomes pointless.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So does She Hulk. Who cares ?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So does She-Hulk etc.

Not really sure what that's supposed to change?

Also, you'd think the very nature of his more silly comics makes it clear they have no actual relevance to how a fight with the Hulk would go (Or really any other Mainstream hero as every appearance in the Main DC has showcased) but whatever comics are comics so who am I to say what counts and what doesn't? It's when people start picking and choosing which portrayals they deem "acceptable" from that genre that a discussion becomes pointless.

Was just a reply to Quan, who was asserting this was Lobo at his best, when it really isn't. No blood clones, no toon force, no 4th wall antics....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Was just a reply to Quan, who was asserting this was Lobo at his best, when it really isn't. No blood clones, no toon force, no 4th wall antics.... 4th wall antics don't prove she hulk can beat Hulk either. Give Lobo his clones and his best and they all fall before HOTM Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
4th all antics doesn't prove she hulk can beat Hulk either. Give Lobo his clones and his best and they all fall before HOTM Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
4th wall antics don't prove she hulk can beat Hulk either. Give Lobo his clones and his best and they all fall before HOTM Hulk.
HotM Hulk vs Toon Force Lobo would end in a stalemate. 4th Wall antics & clones not required.

I take that back Lobo rips him limb for limb.

Originally posted by "Id"
I take that back Lobo rips him limb for limb.

People that is arguably as strong as Lobo couldn't even move Hulk out of his spot. Didn't even register to him. Yeah, Lobo would get creamed by WBH.

Originally posted by "Id"
I take that back Lobo rips him limb for limb.

That's more like it.

Originally posted by "Id"
HotM Hulk vs Toon Force Lobo would end in a stalemate. 4th Wall antics & clones not required. Completely untrue. Hulk would rip Lobo apart. He has true dynamic strength unlike Lobo.

Lobo at his peak, goes on to dismember a clan of Gods. Hulk at his best becomes Zeus whipping dog.

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Originally posted by "Id"
Lobo at his peak, goes on to dismember a clan of Gods. Hulk at his best becomes Zeus whipping dog.

What gods did Lobo kill? Scans?

Originally posted by "Id"
Lobo at his peak, goes on to dismember a clan of Gods. Hulk at his best becomes Zeus whipping dog.

Hulk at his best outperformed a skyfather with one hand.

Originally posted by Golgo13
What gods did Lobo kill? Scans?
http://imageshack.us/a/img383/8969/sback0416vsgods0ib.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2915/sback0417vsgods26zz.jpg
Posidon
Zeus
Odin
Athena
Horus
Buddha
Kali/Durga

I can't make out the hooded figure.

Originally posted by "Id"
Lobo at his peak, goes on to dismember a clan of Gods. Hulk at his best becomes Zeus whipping dog.

Lol? Are you serious with this or are you just trolling Carver? Legitimate question.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol? Are you serious with this or are you just trolling Carver? Legitimate question. serious reply. Show me Hulk doing the equivalent to what Lobo did to the God Squad. A direct point of comparison.

Originally posted by "Id"
serious reply. Show me Hulk doing the equivalent to what Lobo did to the God Squad. A direct point of comparison.

There isn't one. No one short of a high end Cosmic can do that to multiple Skyfathers in Marvel. Odin alone is extremely powerful. You KNOW this.

That being said, Hulk still ranges from being stronger to WAY stronger then Lobo and is the definite winner in a hand to hand fight. Using that as a serious point of comparison is ridiculous and it deserves a similar response:

Post some feats for these Gods that place them above a random Asgardian Godling?

I'm also assuming that you'd accept any ridiculously low showings Lobo might have acquired in his more wacky adventures?

Whats wrong? Thay scene is in continuity.

Quan & Carver begged for peak values.

Thats Lobo at his best clearing a clan of high/sky father's with his lol dynamic strength.

Originally posted by "Id"
Whats wrong? Thay scene is in continuity.

Quan & Carver begged for peak values.

Lobo at his best clearing a clan of high/sky father's with his

DC's pantheons are very much alive and unharmed. So is Heaven and Hell. You know why that is? Because there is a big difference between Lobo's comics and mainstream comics. I'm not trying to lowball Lobo here, I really am not. But you would have to be an idiot to not understand the difference. My responses would be similar to anyone who tried to argue Lobo could be taken out by an anvil or f*cked up by regular bullets.

What are the feats of these Skyfathers?

Originally posted by "Id"
lol dynamic strength.

Lobo does not have dynamic strength. Based on what you've described, he can stronger by getting angrier because it gets his adrenaline pumping but that isn't dynamic strength. Human beings can also experience such moments.

Originally posted by "Id"
http://imageshack.us/a/img383/8969/sback0416vsgods0ib.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/2915/sback0417vsgods26zz.jpg
Posidon
Zeus
Odin
Athena
Horus
Buddha
Kali/Durga

I can't make out the hooded figure.

Impressive. Also, Three Demons couldn't do shit to Lobo as well. He's truly a god killer.

Also, Starlin's explanation on why Lobo has low to high showings.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/LO_zps3c493638.jpg

Not really. Existing in Multidimensional realities doesn't explain why he'd go from fighting Superman to getting run over crushed and taken out by bulldozer.

It DOES however explain his more cartoonish comics that seem to still be the same character. Like his crossover with Mask or his crossover with Batman where he even killed Nightwing/Robin IIRC. I actually think that's pretty clever to explain some contradictions like the one I mentioned above (Lobo killing some Skyfathers are clearly not from the mainstream DC).

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not really. Existing in Multidimensional realities doesn't explain why he'd go from fighting Superman to getting run over crushed and taken out by bulldozer.

It DOES however explain his more cartoonish comics that seem to still be the same character. Like his crossover with Mask or his crossover with Batman where he even killed Nightwing/Robin IIRC. I actually think that's pretty clever to explain some contradictions like the one I mentioned above (Lobo killing some Skyfathers are clearly not from the mainstream DC).

I didn't post the whole scene, which explains why he has low to high showings. It was in Starlin's first few issues of Stormwatch.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I didn't post the whole scene, which explains why he has low to high showings. It was in Starlin's first few issues of Stormwatch.

Oh, it's New 52?

That's too bad. I thought it was Pre-Flashpoint, that would have been a neat little explanation.

You know this Lobo was revealed to actually be a fake right and the real one is that skinny Twilight ***? Lol.

DCnU Lobo has like 5 appearances and they're already revamping his continuity lol.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh, it's New 52?

That's too bad. I thought it was Pre-Flashpoint, that would have been a neat little explanation.

You know this Lobo was revealed to actually be a fake right and the real one is that skinny Twilight ***? Lol. Pre-Flashpoint Lobo wasn't really Lobo in quite a lot of appearances. He was trapped in Hell the whole time.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh, it's New 52?

That's too bad. I thought it was Pre-Flashpoint, that would have been a neat little explanation.

You know this Lobo was revealed to actually be a fake right and the real one is that skinny Twilight ***? Lol.

Yeah, I posted the scans before, but here was the right up from that issue.

http://tessatechaitea.tumblr.com/post/52470997062/stormwatch-21

As for who is the real/fake Lobo? When Starlin took over Stormwatch (Before the skinny Lobo), he was writing the real Lobo.

I guess editorial screwed that up. lol

Too lazy to read all that lol. I'll pick up the issue later.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Pre-Flashpoint Lobo wasn't really Lobo in quite a lot of appearances. He was trapped in Hell the whole time.

Oh yeah.

I remember some of his other appearances were retconned to being some sort of fake. Don't really remember when it starts exactly.

Instead of posting him taking out some "Skyfathers" when a grenade can flatten him, someone should post the time when he got freed as it's really impressive and is actually worth a damn.

When Lobo was in hell, he tanked several mages attacks, which included Zatana. He also had Demons 3 on his belt.

The Main Man.

Originally posted by "Id"
Lobo at his peak, goes on to dismember a clan of Gods. Hulk at his best becomes Zeus whipping dog. Context. You can't escape from it no matter how badly you want to.

What is the new Lobo like compared to the pre-Flashpoint one?

Another VERY close poll. This one has a 5% (rough) swing too.

Mayhap a Doomsday vs. Lobo Poll is likewise warranted?

As for this fight:

At lowest showings- Lobo wrecks him.

At highest showings- Hulk wrecks him.

At most probable showings- Rough Draw. I agree with the Voters on this site for the most part.

Originally posted by jaxthejester
At lowest showings- Lobo wrecks him.


Lobo due to his nature actually has much lower showings.

BUT I don't think they are really relevant tbh.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lobo due to his nature actually has much lower showings.

BUT I don't think they are really relevant tbh.

Are you taking him all the waaaaay back to Omega Men?

Come to think... I should dig up those old comics. I haven't read them in a dog's age.
I can't remember the name of the Cat Guy (Wolverine type) for the life of me; but I know I liked him back in the day.

Young Lobo from Omega Men.

Rocking the 80's Spandex. Keep this image in mind when you vote...

http://www.firstappearanceof.com/images/lobo.jpg

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
DC's pantheons are very much alive and unharmed. So is Heaven and Hell. You know why that is? Because there is a big difference between Lobo's comics and mainstream comics. I'm not trying to lowball Lobo here, I really am not. But you would have to be an idiot to not understand the difference. My responses would be similar to anyone who tried to argue Lobo could be taken out by an anvil or f*cked up by regular bullets.

Actually these Gods survived thier dismemberment, due to heaven being a kill free zone. Therefore permanent death is not possible.

Fact remains Lobo did tear through them.